The difference between RW and AW

[KenC]

The difference between RW and AW

Some background as a basis for my opinion. I was married to an AW for over 20 years. Most of it was good. We did successfully raise two wonderful children that are still my pride and joy. But people change over the course of time and we did. My ex-wife became more and more selfish as time went on. A lot of her attitude I would blame on the feminist movement in America and the "self help" gurus like Oprah. In the end it was all about her and not even the children.

There was a very popular novel at that time, "Bridges of Madison County". The book glamorized and romanticized the infidelity of a woman that was bored with her good husband. My ex-wife, like millions of other AW raved about this book. I often have wondered about how well received a book would be about a man cheating on his wife because of boredom. Any way, my ex-wife did cheat and I divorced her because of it.

After the shock of divorcing passed, I enjoyed dating a number of AW. Sure there were some psychos, but there were also a lot of very nice women. I had no major disappointments in dating AW. But I had never dated a foreign woman either.

I stumbled into meeting my current Russian wife over 6 years ago. I say "stumbled" because I was not looking for a wife, foreign or otherwise. It so happens that we met, fell in love and now have been married for over 5 years.

Is there a difference between AW and RW?

In my mind there is a huge difference. It all starts with the femininity. RW love being women, where as AW tend to want to be like men. With this attitude in context, RW also prefer their men to be manlier. RW almost automatically concede leadership of the family to the man. Now, truthfully, I must say that they also use their femininity to manipulate that leadership. LOL. RW also seem to be more concerned for what is best for the family as opposed to themselves as many AW do. The "family" may only be made up of you and her, but you get to count too.

The attitude toward sex is much different too. RW take pride in "taking care of their man", where I have found too few AW with this same attitude. There are volumes of books that have been published here entirely about how men can satisfy their women. With a RW, it is almost the opposite. Now when you get an AM that has been brainwashed into thinking it is his responsibility to make sure the sex is good and the RW thinking it is her responsibility, then you have some wonderful sex. There also seems to be a much more liberal attitude or open mind ness regarding sex with RW.

Many here have spoken about the domestic qualities of RW. I do not find this to be true. My ex-wife was a much better housekeeper than my current RW. So much for a cozy home for me.

As far as beauty is concerned, I think the femininity of the RW puts them ahead of AW. They just put forth a lot more effort to look their best. I agree with what Bucky said though:

"I would say the very young RW are better looking on average than their AW counterparts, yet this advantage reverses with age"

This might be due to the fact that RW lead a more difficult life or that we Americans put more emphasis on staying young for as long as possible.
I dont think there is a difference in intelligence, but RW seem to have a big edge in regard to formal education. Because of this, they are more well rounded in the arts, literature and history. Of course there will always be exceptions to the rule on all of this.
KenC

[Cold Warrior]

Good post KenC. When you have time maybe you or another married guy here can post something about how the RW attitude and perception about the US and FSU changes with her time here.

For example, i read that the Russians find it surprising to be greeted with a hearty hello, how ya doin, by the girl at the checkout counter. They found it hypocritical until they better understood American culture.

[KenC]

Cold Warrior,

Lena went through a complete transformation in the last six years.  When she first arrived she hated just about everything American and went on endlessly about how great her Motherland was.  Over time, that opinion has changed 180 degrees.  She just returned from Russia Saturday and vows it will be a very long time before she returns again.

KenC

[LookingForRW]

Im new to this group,but not the RW "scene".

You asked a huge question my freind.In a nutshell,RW have had a  much "harder life"than AW.There are always exceptions ,but AW can tend to be more "spoiled",this is not a brainstorm, I know.Anytime a person has a easy comfortable life,IE AW ,dont "need" a man,b/c of sperm banks,good jobs,etc. and  A. society will support anyone(we are talking AW ,here) ,no matter how stupid their choices ,or the number of kids they have.Because AW dont need a man (financially) whats the real point of them being feminine?Many dress as slobs today.Why not?All they really gotta do is show up for work and preform.Its really changed over the last 10-20 years.Now, when I date a AW,if I do one little thing wrong,they are gone to the next kiss-ass efeminite guy who is in touch with his feelings.

SEX-yes RW tend to be "more open" sexually.They also are more likely to of had numerous abortions,and the HIV infection spread rate is as high in R. as it is in Africa.Sex with the boss is the part of many job descriptions(its not really the RW fault,but this doesnt change the fact).

More later

[Michelangelo]

What does RW stand for?  What does AW stand for????   thanks

ok, tried Russain Woman and American Woman and it works  Maybe Angry Woman works as well...

[LookingForRW]

RW -Russian Woman

AM -American Man

[Bruno]

I don't know AW ( i have try some but never more long that a night ) but i know EW ( European woman ) and RW...

I think AW and EW are around the same type of woman... and RW are like AW from 60 year ago... some can say that they are old minded, with value who have no more place in our modern world...

First about children... AW make first career and maybe after ( around 35 ) she wish children before it is too late. RW can have children and good career in the same time. For AW, children limit too much her freedom...

Second, about marriage... when some problem appear between wife and husband, AW ask directly the divorce... RW try to keep the peace in the family...

And at last, respect of parents... RW are shocked that we place our parents in rest house nad don't take care a lot of them... For AW, parents at home is like a nightware...

And about change with time, be carefull that your RW don't become a AW... i have know this with my previous russian wife, she is a perfect AW/EW... she hire babysitter for go out in disco... same married, she begin relation with other man ( sexual liberty from our modern world )... she begin steal your money, ...

But don't worry, i am sure that the RW will be like our AW/EW in arount ten year... i see the evolution each year during my vacation in Russia... the young woman are more and more like our woman... a RW below 20 year old is almost like our woman, between 20 and 30, take care in your choice,... and up 30, they are traditional RW... now, you have RW for all the taste but in ten year... Russia change fast, very fast and they use our modern world for model ...

[TigerPaws]

Hello all I wrote this a couple of years ago but being that this is a new board now I thought I would post it again with a 5 year update added to the end;

 Let me introduce my self my name is Michael I live in central California I am 50 and I have been married to the most wonderful Russian Lady now for the past 5 years. Like most men I know I was tired of the me, me, me attitude and selfishness of women here in the states and the general poor attitude towards men most American women have, I hoped I could find something better possibly overseas. I began my search over 6 years ago looking over the various agencies on the internet and reading everything possible, what I found sounded like it was the answer to my dreams but was it true? After spending 6 months looking, researching and dreaming I finally worked up the courage to write a letter which I could send out introducing myself to some of these very lovely ladies. I found a translator and had my letter translated into Russian an of course each letter was "personalized" for each lady. I initially sent out over 50 letters and to my great surprise over the next 6 weeks I received over 35 replies all of them in Russian, luckily the person who was doing the translating for me was fast, accurate and the cost was quite reasonable.

I will admit that I corresponded with more Ladies from Russia and the Ukraine than I really should have, over the ensuing year I traveled extensively traveling from Odessa, Kiev and Khearson in the Ukraine to St. Petersburg, Moscow, Orenburg, Perm and east deep into Siberia, meeting with 32 different Ladies. With Victoria (my wife) we first met in the Bahamas for two weeks, then I went to Russia for two weeks, then we went again to the Bahamas for another three weeks because at that time no Visa was required for a Russian to enter the country. Then spent two weeks together in Paris and again I went to Russia to spend another two weeks with Victoria and finally we spent two weeks again in the Bahamas before all was said and done. In between all of this I was also writing, calling and meeting with other Ladies in various parts of Russia and the Ukraine. Now I understand that most people do not have the ability to have the time off or the funds to do what I did but non-the-less you can develop a good working relationship by post, telephone and e-mail enough to decide if you would like to meet each other.

Victoria's arrival and first 6 months in the U.S.

Perhaps I should start by saying that Victoria was not born in Russia but in Tajikistan to Russian parents and like so many others after the break up of the Soviet Union her family and friends who were not ethnically "pure" were forced to give up their homes and most of their possessions. They were then escorted out of the country by armed military personal, I bring this up because this kind of bloodless ethnic cleansing was and to some extent is still common.


I arrived in Moscow about a week before Victoria's interview at the U.S. consulate, she was as always waiting for me at the airport as beautiful as ever and very excited to see me. We spent the night at the best hotel in Moscow then it was off the next afternoon to her town by train, a 12-hour over night ordeal. Her family was waiting for us at the train station and there was going to be a big going away party the next day with as many friends and relatives that could come. I had no idea so many people could fit into such a small apartment, Victoria was the guest of honor so I did my best to stay out of the way besides I could only catch 1 word in 20 if I was lucky, still she looked like a million dollars and did her best to see that I did not feel totally forgotten. I was introduced to Uh! everyone, who they all were I have no idea but they all wanted to meet me and see for themselves who was taking their Victoria away, then they went back talking to Victoria ignoring me for the most part (which was ok with me). The party went on well into the night, there was food and drink everywhere, I brought 2 lbs of Ethel M Liqueur chocolates, a Hickory Farms sampler and a 1 lb JellyBelly sampler which went over very well with everyone. We rested the day after the party before heading back to Moscow for Victoria's interview and yes another long 12-hour train ride but this time with several of Victoria's family along. This is when things started getting emotional, saying good-bye at the train station to those who could not come to Moscow, it seemed like everyone cried.

The interview at the consulate was very simple, I had brought over 50 photographs, telephone records, airline and hotel receipts as well as a number of our letters. The lady who interviewed Victoria was very polite and only asked a few simple questions after looking over the documents I brought, I also believe that my being with Victoria helped considerably, if nothing else it made Victoria feel much better. The consulate took Victoria's passport and told us to return later that afternoon when her K1 visa would be ready.

Victoria's arrived in New York and we sailed through immigration without any problems but we were on a tight connection to San Francisco so there was not much time to do anything but get to our next flight. We arrived into San Francisco 17 hours after leaving Moscow at 9:30 in the evening so as you can imagine we were both a little tired and we still had over and hours drive to my (our) house. Victoria slept quite a bit for the next few days, the time change really affected her (it is after all an 11 hour difference between California and Moscow), plus the stress of the trip and saying goodbye to her family and friends (lots and lots of tears). The fun began when I was in the kitchen cutting up some apples for us and putting the cores down the garbage disposal, Victoria tried to stop me saying I was going to plug up the sink. Now with my limited knowledge of Russian and her limited knowledge of English how was I going to explain this to her? Back to the every handy English/Russian dictionary and look up the word "sink" then "teeth" and point to the disposal, I put one of the apple cores down it while the disposal was running, she then looked quite surprised at what I was showing her. This was only one of many of the "adventures" we were to share together, like teaching Victoria how to use the washing machine, you know sorting the clothes, using the right cycle and temperatures not to mention what should NOT go into the dryer. To say the least many mistakes were made and she felt very bad calling herself stupid for turning my underwear every color but white and shrinking some of our clothes to doll sizes. Then came the shopping experience, the Safeway super store was a bit overwhelming at first with the large selection of well everything and of course Victoria did not know brand "A" from brand "B" or even what half the things on the shelf were, she felt completely lost. Victoria was also totally dependent on me for well
just about everything, she did not know how to drive a car which is still very common in Russia today and she felt very self conscious about speaking with anyone because of her limited knowledge of English.

Every weekend for the first few months we were off to somewhere different, I spent more time in San Francisco in those first months than I had in the previous 10 years but she was enjoying herself buying post cards from everyplace we went sending them to all of her family and friends. During the week while I was away at work I know she was very board, TV is not all that interesting if you can not understand what is being said, with a little research I found out that the Dish Network has 2 Russian channels NTV and NTV+ (they now have 4 channels), so I had the satellite system installed, while not the answer to Victoria's boredom it sure helped. At around the middle of our second month together we made plans to head off to Hawaii where we would be married, we worked together making the arrangements mostly over the Internet and by telephone, this was really a lot of fun and helped bring us even closer together. We spent just 3 days Oahu (which was long enough for both of us) before heading over to the big island and the Kona coast. We had a beautiful wedding right on the beach at sunset, the minister, photographer well everything was great, we had a wonderful dinner by torch light in a very quiet setting and spent the next 10 days on the beach, roaming around the island and enjoying our honeymoon.

Once back home we headed to the INS district office in order to have Victoria's status changed, this went off pretty well all things considered but with typical government efficiency we arrived at the INS office at 8am and were finished right at 5pm. Oh well what can you do! Victoria's English was improving dramatically but she was still very self conscious about her limited knowledge and accent, I tried to tell her that no one in America really cares but this was lost in the cultural differences. You see in most of the former Soviet Union (and Europe for that matter) anything that distinguishes you from the locals like an accent means you will be treated like an outsider so when we were out Victoria tended to be quite and
reserved. Everything went smoothly with the INS but as usual with most government agencies it was hurry up and wait, still it was nice to get the change of status out of the way. We got Victoria a work authorization card even though she was not interested in working more for identification than anything else so she would not have to carry her passport around all of the time.

Life went of as normal and with a great deal of patience from both of us Victoria's English improved enough for her to take the drivers license written test to get her learners permit. Now the fun really began, teaching her how to drive without getting into a wreck or becoming a wreck myself. If you do not have the patience of Jobe do not attempt to teach your bride to drive, have someone else do it. Victoria did pretty well considering she had never before been behind the wheel of a car, of course we went someplace very remote and flat with nothing to run into for a mile in every direction. After a few days of this it was onto the country roads, bad move I forgot those two lane roads have a high crown and deep ditches on either side, thought I was going to have a heart attack before she got the hang of it. Well we survived that mistake (only went half way into the ditch twice but at least we did not get stuck), so it was time to brave the local streets. This was not as bad as I thought, Victoria did pretty well all things considered, we did not run any red lights or hit any parked cars and she was getting the hang of judging the distances and the feel of the road. Pretty soon I took her on the freeways which was very scary for her with so many big trucks all around, still I knew she would need to learn so I insisted she drive as much as
possible at least until she got tired. Which brings me to the wreck, yes she wrecked my full size Bronco to the tune of $6,552.00 dollars, she was parking and confused the gas with the break hitting a sizeable tree. To say she felt bad was an understatement (I think she cried for two days) and it took me several weeks to get her to drive again but at least I knew she would not make that mistake again. Eventually Victoria passed her drivers test so it was time to get her a car, now this is where dreams meet reality, she thought she wanted a sports car a Ford Mustang GT Convertible. Well one test drive shot a hole in that dream, it was a bit too much car for her to handle so I had her try a Chrysler Sebring Convertible which she fell in love with. As usual Victoria let me handle all of the arrangements for the car and off she went in her new ride, not that she had that many places to go but she was very happy, it was after all her first car (you remember that don't you?).

For the men who are interested in a lady 15 to 20 years younger than yourself (Victoria is 19 years younger than I am) I noticed that for the first 6 months or so Victoria was quite concerned that I try to look and dress well a bit younger. I did not pay too much attention to this at first but on several occasions people had mistaken Victoria for my daughter and though she did not say anything I could see it was upsetting her. There was not much I could do about this and eventually she worked herself through it, I bring this up because you need to remember to be sensitive to your bride's feelings much more than you might normally pay attention to such things. Because most of the girls do not have a good knowledge of English they might not be able to express to you something that is bothering them or feel that you would not understand, so a word to the wise pay attention to your bride and work with her to overcome some of the difficulties by talking things over with her.

To wrap up a rather long story I have been and I am very happy with Victoria, she is everything I could ask for in a lady I know I will be happy with for many years to come. Yes we have had our problems some caused by her homesickness, some by cultural differences and some by me but in the end it all comes down to the two of us wanting to make our relationship work and work well. I have been asked many times by ladies I work with "Why did I go to Russia for a wife?" when I try to explain some of the differences they shake their heads in utter disbelief and go away confused, I am sure thinking I am quite mad. When men I know and work with asked me about Victoria they are interested and curious, when they meet my bride they are amazed and want to learn more about one of the best kept secrets of the Cold War; The depth and warmth of a Traditional Russian Lady.

Michael

 

Now for the 5 year update: Well things have gone on as well as can be expectd, I can say that we are happier today than we were 5 years ago. Two years ago we had a daughter, I call her our terrorist in training and Victoria has become a wonderful mother, maybe a little bit of a softie when it comes to discipline but that is where I come in so we tend to balance each other out.  She still wants me to look younger which is ok with me, she has lost all of the weight she gained from having the baby and is down to a size 2 which is not bad for someone who is 5' 7" and 120 lbs. After being in America for 5 years she is still amazed how American men can put up with the AW's bad attitudes and general appearance (read that as no fashion sense and being fat).

 Both Victria and I would be more than happy to answer any questions.

[anono]

great post michael. sounds like you met a good woman.

best of lusk to the two of you.

[Turboguy]

That was a great post Michael.   I think it really paints a realistic picture of what to expect.  You seemed like you did a thorough job of searching and I think you apply yourself well to any project at hand including making a happy marrige.

I have been hunting for the right Russian lady for a decade and finally just seem to have found her and am about to start the visa process for her.  I hope mine works out as well as yours and I think anyone thinking about it could learn from your experiences.

 

[TigerPaws]

Here again I wrote this about a year ago in the hope that others will see that finding a RW is a process that takes time and a great deal of effort. 

 I know it is difficult to believe that you (or myself) can find an intelligent, well educated, beautiful and young (19 years in my case) woman who knows how to love is for the most part unspoiled and loyal beyond anything you could ever imagine. Of all of the girls I met (over 32) only 1 concerned me as to her motivation, the rest were honest about their desire to find someone they could love and share a life with. In my communication with far more ladies than you can begin to imagine I found that I could get a pretty good idea about the gal within 3 to 4 letters if is she was someone who I might like to get to know better and possibly meet. This process of meeting someone through correspondence is quite different for anything most men have ever experienced but believe me it works if you take the time to screen the ladies before you invest the time to meet them and then the additional time to really get to know them.
 To give you a good example I met 6 ladies while I was in St. Petersburg for 2 weeks on my first of many trips over to the FSU, I had been in correspondence with them for about 7 months before I went to Russia. Now I pretty much knew (or at least thought I knew) which girl I was most interested in, her name was Marina 24 years old a very well educated doctor and from the photo's quite attractive, not beautiful but very nice. Her letters were everything you could every ask for and she was ready to settle down, have a family and share a life together with the right man (and she was pretty sure I was the
right man). She met me at the airport along with the translator and driver I had prearranged to meet me when I arrived, Marina was a bit more attractive in person than her photo's so I was not disappointed with her appearance and she was genuinely happy to finally meet me in person. After spending some time with Marina I could begin to see things I did not like but first let me say that I was 43 when I sent out my first letter and 44 when I made my first trip to Russia, at that time I had a 13 year old son and a 9 year old daughter who lived with their mother. I was looking for a lady who was a bit more mature and my initial desire was for a lady who had been divorced but did not have a child, I was hoping that by finding a lady who had been married before that she would at least have some idea what a relationship was all about and what it was like to live 24/7 with a man. I was not interested in raising my own wife having been there and done that I did not want to go through it again. Anyway back to Marina, it did not take me very long to figure out that she had no idea about what it was like to be in a relationship, she had spent all of her time in school and studying to be the best doctor possible which from what I was able to find out she was a very good physician. Marina would have been everything a man could have wanted if he was ready to take on the responsibility of helping her grow up into being a wife, I did not want to go that process again.
It was not her fault as she was an honest good gal just too immature for my needs, wants and desires so I told her with the help of the translator that I did not believe we were meant for each other.
 There were 5 other girls still to meet, 4 of which I was not interested in mostly because they were just not attractive enough or in one case the gal smoked which she had lied about in our correspondence and I have no tolerance for smokers. Then there was Julia, she was 5' 10" 120 lb 28 years old, a natural blonde with teal green eyes, extremely feminine, a well educated dentist who had been divorced several years earlier and did not have any children. I was quite attracted to her and she was to me, we hit it off well even though she did not speak a word of English, still with the help of the translator and my ever handy dictionary we were able to communicate with only a bit of difficulty. Over the course of the next few days we got along better and better so on my last day in St. Petersburg I invited her to spend 2 weeks with me in the Bahamas so we could really have the time and opportunity to see if we were right for each other, she accepted my offer on the spot. It took me a couple of months to put the trip together and we stayed in very close communication through letters and translator assisted telephone calls. We finally met in Nassau and for the next 2 weeks we had a great time (and yes she was a natural blonde). After I got home I was sure that Julia was the gal for me, she was a great gal, a lot of fun to be with and I was very sure she would have been happy with me so she and I began to talk about getting her a K1 fiancée visa. I even flew back over to St. Petersburg 2 months later for her birthday as a surprise and things seemed to be getting better and better but there was something wrong not with Julia but with me and I could not put my finger on it.
 After talking with a good friend who was also looking for a lady from Russia he said something I really took to heart, that maybe I should stop and carefully examine what if anything was wrong and find out why I am having a problem with Julia. It took me some time but I finally realized that I was not in love with her, oh I could have been happy with her but that indescribable something was missing and that little voice in the back of my head was shouting at me. None of this was her fault and very reluctantly I told her that things were not going to work out between the two of us, it was very difficult for me to do but I am sure I was right. So it was back to the search and again I found many gals who were honest and would have made a great wife but none really hit me in their letters or in person until I found Victoria and the rest as they say is history.
Which brings me to something I feel quite strongly about which is that you need to be able to spend the time in order to truly get to know the gal you are most interested in, plan on at least 3 to 5 days with her on your initial meeting and if you can afford it spend 2 weeks with her someplace like Jamaica or the Dominican Republic which dose not have any visa restrictions on Russians like so many other countries.
 Believe me if you are patient and persistent you will be able to find a beautiful, intelligent, honest and loyal girl who will far exceed anything you could ever imagine, someone who is unspoiled and will be truly grateful for everything you do for her. Just stay the course and take your time because Russia is the land of plenty when it comes to girls, it is just that it is up to you to pick just the right one that will make you happy.

Michael

[Mamma D]

 have a good day....

[anono]

great post michael. i think the more time you can spend with a lady the better. i also think it's a good idea to live like a husband and wife , not always on vacation.

i've taken a lady to foros (crimea), st. pete, egypt, but i also rent a flat in kiev and try and live like a couple. vacations are great but day to day life together is what matters. being in a resort or near paradise with someone is great but living in  flat or a house similar to what you'll be living in reality at home is also a good way to know each other.

we bought groceries, we ate at home, we'd rent DVD's. she found a job in kiev. i spent two different trips, two months in duration with one lady before finally calling it quits. the k-1 arrived shortly after i returned home from the second trip. had to cancel it.

i think vacations like yours serve a good purpose and you found a good lady. if you have the luxury of time, try and live like a couple.

[Mamma D]

 

I have read these lists for more than five years and the same old stuff goes round and round......

 

[TigerPaws]

<sup>LOL,

 Sounds to me like MommaD is the typical angry American woman, her life did not end up the way she imagined it would as a little girl so now all men are evil. Get a clue woman, men choose the woman, the woman only accepts or rejects the man.</sup>

[Mamma D]

Oh sweetie, I have been married to the SAME man for nearly 57 years and still no regrets....what about you?

Mamma D  

[TigerPaws]

I am laughing too much MonnaD, tell me WHY are you bothering with a forum like this?

[gtdav]

Probably because she wishes to (graciously) share her VAST experience with those of us who are on this quest. So, tigerpaws, or whatever, I'd recommend you do a little research about this LADY, and not discount her so quickly. Just my opinion, but you could possibly be wrong about her- try the idea on for size...

[TigerPaws]

What me wrong? NEVER!

 Really what vast experience could a 60 somthing AW bring to a forum about finding, traveling to, meeting, courting, going through the K1 immigration process then living with a lady from the FSU?

 

 

[Mamma D]

 I have a great Russian born daughter and grandson  ....I also have a 57 year successful marriage.

My sons have successful marriages and families....and I have wonderful grandchildren.

Last week, I was pleased to send a card ...."Four years ago, we waited for you for hours...And the darned weather forced you to land at O'Hair....But you were safe... and finally Dick brought both of you HOME....and I am so glad you came...

Her answer... "So are we!"   And dear sir, that says a world of careing and commitment that, I hope, will last long after I am gone!

This family goes hom to Mother Russia every year, and her mom has been here. Each year her bonds to this country grows stronger...She will always be a Russian Lady at heart... and someday, Basil will stand with one foot in each culture, and I hope, form a small bridge of understanding that we have lacked for so long.

There is not room enough time or room to tell you all about that awesome kid!

Mamma D

[Bruno]

Hello Mama D,

If the photo is from you, i can understand why old american wish a young russian woman :-)))

Stay a little serious... when i say that russian woman are like our woman from 60 year ago, it is for explain that russian woman are more familly minded, respect of old people ( good for you ), they don't make a divorce for a simple problem, .... but now, russia is changing and very fast... and in the wrong way...

And some RW, after some time living in Western country change and become the western bitch.... they stay in bed to very late, don't help home but spend money in shop, don't care of children, have extra marital relation, ...

Find a RW is not very difficult but it is a work of all days after the marriage... she need change to adapt but not too much... we don't wish that our RW become a AW...

And i have not a lot of experience with AW... one night by woman is not enough for speak about experience... they take you home, you have a great night and the morning, after the coffee, they show the door... mordern woman use man like cleanex... and our EW begin follow these example... and young RW too... see the problem with aids...

You have certainly some experience who can be interesting to the man who visit these forum but when they read your post, i am sure that they go take the first flight to Moscow... and choose a RW...

The most common complaint I hear from men is the limited selection of suitable partners in the west. I think the reasons there are so few good women to choose from are two-fold.

First, men aren't stupid. They know a good woman when they have one, and they hold on to her ( Maybe you was a good one ). Thus the herd is thinned considerably by marriage and serious long-term relationships.

The second reason is the feminist movement. Gender-feminist lesbian misandrists have corrupted a significant portion of western women, and turned them into androgynous drones.

Running a close third is the career woman. Right or wrong, her career is her priority.

Fourth and perhaps the most insidious reason of all is fast food and sweat pants - nuff said!

Anyone who has surfed Russian bride sites on the Internet has probably been exposed to a lot of bull twang. It's ludicrous to claim that all Russian women are this and that, or all western women are the other. There is a mix of good honorable women and bad disreputable women in every region of the world.

However, there are a few GENERALITIES worth mentioning. For the most part Russian women really take care of their personal appearance. They walk extensively, they eat responsibly, and they dress impeccably. Also, true feminism is prevalent among Russia women; the main focus of Russian feminism is reveling in womanhood. It's quite refreshing.

[Mamma D]

Maybe this one is better....some time ago.
mamma D

[TigerPaws]

 I still ask why is an old AW is posting on a forum dealing with FSU marrage agencies? How much insght can you offer MommaD about conditions in Saransk, Moscow, Kiev or Riga? This forum is geared towards men finding a wife in the FSU, how to handle the visa process, how to get to the FSU and the K1 or other processes in order to bring the wife to be back here to America not how to make cookies for grandchildren.  

[Admin]

Welcome MammaD -I've been reading your contributions to RWL forever (or so it seems), and have always appreciated the balance and sense of humor you offer.

I've never posted on that list, so you won't recognize me from there, but have been quite active at Planet-Love and Brama for a very long time.

Anyway, I am glad you are here - and even happier to learn that you are in CO (I never knew that).

- Dan

[Mamma D]

And I ask... why are you here.....because you snagged a trophy wife?

I point out, that your daughter will grow up to be... OH MY, one of those awful American women... OH DEAR, the shame of it!

Get real..... as a women and mother now, to a Russian born lady.....I have a vantage that no other person can bring to this list so far....I don't even see any Russian ladies that are in a position to tell you guys how they feel about this endeavor.

Mamma D  
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