Sex slave from Russia

[Bruno]

A article of the Prvada 11/13/2003 :
http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/96/383/11264_Sexslaves.html

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... A young naked woman is being pushed to the middle of the hall. She is presented to customers, and sold for at least USS1,000. A buyer is happy with the purchase, he knows he will be able to receive twenty times more for her.
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[align=justify]Such auctions are definitely hard to imagine being real, but the reality is much more frightening than any imagination sometimes....[/align]
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[align=justify]...Now as traveling out of Russia became easy, Russian women is seen an "exotic" on the sex-slavery market, because they are so new to it. Demand for them and Ukrainian females exceeded the leaders: Latinas, Philippinas, Thais [/align]
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[align=justify]People in the dirty business of sexual exploitation have developed special means and methods of actions...[/align]
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[align=justify]...Yet another means of recruiting is "marriage agencies", sometimes called "bride by mail" or "international acquaintance services". According to the World Migration Organization, all "bride by mail" agencies offering women from the former USSR are controlled by organized criminal structures. Many of them work in the Internet. Recruiters use "marriage agencies" as a means of finding women who want to travel or emigrate. Those recruiters can be slave-traders themselves or work for such. Even if a woman meets a man who promises her a marriage, it is possible that after using her for a while himself, he sells her to sex-industry: to porn movie makers, as a slave or straight to brothel...[/align]
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[align=justify]...Most women, no matter which method of recruiting was used, do not expect sexual exploitation and violence...[/align]
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From IOM ( International Organisation for Immigration ) report : [/align]
[align=justify]http://www.love-from-russia.be/forum/iom.pdf
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[align=justify]page 25 ... Most of the mail order agency have links to russian organized crime group... in many cases, the man who buy the "romance tours" who are offered by these agencys seem to treat them as prostitution or sexual exploitation tours...[/align]
[align=justify]page 26 ... The man often expect to have sex with the women as part of "getting to know them"... one man admitted, "we are not here to get married"... In 1997, 747 US fiancée visas were issued to Russian woman , and 282 to Ukrainian women... one-third of the woman who come to the US on fiancée visa return to Russia...[/align]
[align=justify]page 51... Brighton Beach, New York... many small business, such as marriage agents, dating services, ... Police say many of these business are fronts for prostitution brokers, paper marriages, ...[/align]
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[Marc Dayton]

I have also heard these storys are true, but I have also bean told that the men who set this up were Russian Men who used other forrien own services, and countrys to bring these girls in as sex slaves.

I also have also have lot,s of RW ask me about this. It is their number one fear that a man might even try this in the U.S.

 

[Bruno]

Not only russian are involved in so "commerce"...

if you read the report, you can find a example at page 19, about a Norway man who organize special marriage camp... 80 pound for visit the camp... 450 pound for take home...

They have several example from Europe ( Germany, Holland )... from some state of US ...

After read fully these report, i have understand why several FSU woman was afraid to visit me in Europa when i was searching a wife...

When i have read the article in the Pravda, i have think : again some propagande but i have search after western information... and the report of IOM confirm the article... and it is write by a western man, not a feminist woman !!!

[Marc Dayton]

Maybe you can post a link or copy the story and post it. I would like to see the full story not just part of it?

[Marc Dayton]

I must be blind you have a link up

[Bruno]

Marc, if you read my first post, you have the link to the article in the Pravda... and a link to my server for download the full report ( the .pdf one )... right click and "save as"... 463kb, 72 page...

[Marc Dayton]

No Russian women willingly become sexual slaves

11/13/2003 14:06


[align=justify]Annual volume of sales in worldwide market for women in sex industry is valued US$7-12bln. Most women do not want themselves go overseas for prostitution, and do not wish to sell themselves to slavery.
A young naked woman is being pushed to the middle of the hall. She is presented to customers, and sold for at least USS1,000. A buyer is happy with the purchase, he knows he will be able to receive twenty times more for her. [/align]
[align=justify]Such auctions are definitely hard to imagine being real, but the reality is much more frightening than any imagination sometimes.[/align]
[align=justify]Annual volume of sales in worldwide market of women as "goods" in sex industry is valued US$7-12bln. In the last decade hundreds of thousands women from the Central and Eastern Europe and former USSR republics were turned to prostitutes. Only in the EU there are half a million of them. [/align]
[align=justify]The most popular countries to where they are sent are Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, Italy, Spain, Yugoslavia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Hungary, Czech Republic, Croatia, Germany, UAE, Syria, China, Holland, Canada and Japan.
 
Russia is at the same time a transit and destination point for selling women from Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine.[/align]
[align=justify]Now as traveling out of Russia became easy, Russian women is seen an "exotic" on the sex-slavery market, because they are so new to it. Demand for them and Ukrainian females exceeded the leaders: Latinas, Philippinas, Thais. [/align]
[align=justify]People in the dirty business of sexual exploitation have developed special means and methods of actions.[/align]
[align=justify]One of the most widespread ways to find a girl is newspaper classifieds advertising an excellent overseas job without special qualification required, like a cafИ servant or nun. Some ads like that offer well-paid places for "young, attractive women" who agree to become dancers or hostesses. About 20% of all women sold as slaves were recruited through such advertising.
 
Women are also recruited during social events like beauty competitions. The process is complicated usually, and the fraud is thoroughly thought out to make candidates believe in reality of good future employment. They play on women's poverty, unemployment, dreams about leaving Russia. Most women do not want themselves go overseas for prostitution, and do not wish to sell themselves to slavery.[/align]
[align=justify]Yet another means of recruiting is "marriage agencies", sometimes called "bride by mail" or "international acquaintance services". According to the World Migration Organization, all "bride by mail" agencies offering women from the former USSR are controlled by organized criminal structures. Many of them work in the Internet. Recruiters use "marriage agencies" as a means of finding women who want to travel or emigrate. Those recruiters can be slave-traders themselves or work for such. Even if a woman meets a man who promises her a marriage, it is possible that after using her for a while himself, he sells her to sex-industry: to porn movie makers, as a slave or straight to brothel.[/align]
[align=justify]Some slave sellers provide women with true documents for entering a country (by legal tourist visas and their own passports), in other cases false documents are used.[/align]
[align=justify]Most women, no matter which method of recruiting was used, do not expect sexual exploitation and violence.[/align]
[align=justify]Methods of controlling these women after they arrive to a destination country include holding the documents, physical violence, threats of hurting members of the family and financial servitude. Even when women know they would become prostitutes, their knowledge is remote from what really expects them. Even those who willingly go overseas as prostitutes can not imagine the level of manipulation, fraud and enforcement they would have to go through.[/align]
[align=justify]In some cases women saved from physical and sexual violence are willing to come back to those countries. Often they do so because it is too difficult for them to get back to normal life, or they can not find a job in home country. Motives may vary: some wish to support the family, some want to receive good education, some desire to find a nice couple, etc. [/align]
[align=justify]Almost all big cities in Europe experience "sex-mania" nowadays. World economy development requires more and more workers, and international labor is much cheaper. [/align]
[align=justify]The most popular countries for selling women in Europe are the ones which legalized prostitution: Holland and Germany, for instance.[/align]
[align=justify]In Holland prostitution was never prohibited. It became a legal, normal profession from 1988, when workers are joined by the service personnel union PIC. From 1996 prostitutes pay taxes. They do not have to register or pass medical tests. Maturity age is 16, and from this age it is legal to use any prostitute services or star in so-called "light porn". To be able to work in the industry, to star in ?heavy porn¦ or act in sexual performances where a coition takes place, one should reach the age of 18. Laws do not prohibit any kinds of sex: sadomasochism, zoophilia, toilet sex, etc. Even in a small town it is easy to find a "red light street". Legalization of prostitution leads to rise in sex-trade of slave women.[/align]
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[Elen]

In short you males always were (and still are and ever will be) just a  @@@@ (all bad words I knew):?:?:X

[Bruno]

Yep Marc... this is the pravda article who have motivate me to make some search... some time, newspaper make sensational news... the more interesting is the .pdf, a official report from IOM ( International Organisation for Migration )... they have some fact... not only news... but the file is too big for the forum ( more of 300 kb ) and all the report is not about the topic... only some part are about marriage ...

Elena, yes, some man are ####, but not all, only some who are not the majority... only, it is need for RW to be informed that between all the good guys, it can be some bad one...

[Marc Dayton]

Elen,

Your post is over my head. I don't understand at all. Call me dum?

[Elen]

what exactly part of my post you didn't understand???

[tim 360]

Big Deal!  Did some of you just figure this out or something???  This sex slave racket has been going on for years.  Covered by mainstream media many times.  Check out the UN pages on trafficking. 

The really best part,  if you really dig deep.  It's the FSU's own criminal countrymen and countrywomen who scam the girls into the sex-trade.  Lot of you need an education?  Go to Haifia,  go to Turkey...plenty of FSU sex trade there.  Usually lured in by a woman in the girls town.  Promises of a waitress or dancer job. 

All countires are portals.  Think Amesterdam.  Think Italy via the Albanians.  You know,  lots of you posters are clowns.  Ya get all pissey about thinkin' some girl may have scammed you........???  And plenty of these FSU girls get scammed beyond your wildest dreams.

Any "anit-scam" websites for them?  Bettcha can't find one.  And you silly men whine and snivel wondering if maybe you lost $50,  while these girls lose their entire lives.

Bruno.  You type and talk alot.  Maybe YOU are the guy to give these poor hopeless women a website???  Link it with the UN and th Media?  Whattcah think?  Or is it more convenient for you to just sit and type.  20 posts per day.  Whats it gonna be?  And bitter-pill Marc...maybe you ought to help Bruno with this?  Wahttcha 'tink?  Maybe Big time Fiorella and Kivinna will join in too---but maybe they are way to comfortable bashing men.  Eh?

Ya'll need an education,  methinks.

 

 

 

 

 

[Elen]

Bruno,  Fiorella and Kivinna DO what they can and their sites are uselful for those who looking for help and information of course

[tim 360]

Pardon my venting.  Must be the wine and the late hour and the subject.  But,  really don't all your postings seem puny and silly as compared to pain and suffering more than 200,000 FSU women have endured in the sex trade game?  It's pablum.  From Bangkok to New York this ugly game is played out.  Every single day.

And Bruno,  there are far more credible sources than the ones you mention.  Do your research.  You will do well.  FYI:  Belgium is a gateway.  And so are many other countries....to many to mention.  Worldwide.

But truly,  if anyone is scammed---it is these hundreds of thousands of girls.  I think of Kvinna and Fiorella and the "antidate" and would not your combined energies spent on fighting the sexual slavery of your own countrywomen be more rewarding to each of you than bashing these silly men.  Elen,  you too would be an asset in this,  these are afterall....your people.

Cheerio, Tim

 

[Elen]

But truly,  if anyone is scammed---it is these hundreds of thousands of girls.  I think of Kvinna and Fiorella and the "antidate" and would not your combined energies spent on fighting the sexual slavery of your own countrywomen be more rewarding to each of you than bashing these silly men.  Elen,  you too would be an asset in this,  these are afterall....your people.

Can't catch your ideas in fighting sex slavary:?

As for me personal all what I can do is to put "right" ideas into brains of my own daughter for she would never fall in such "business" ( I'm not about sex slave THAt is not a "threat" for her cos she is already grew up "right" I'm about dating with foriegners) And anti-dates sites are very usefull for me.

What's you suggestion? Should we go into some sex slave nest and free all poor girls?

 

 

[Elen]

As for bashing these silly men then I have my right for some fun as well:D:D

[Kvinna]

But truly,  if anyone is scammed---it is these hundreds of thousands of girls.  I think of Kvinna and Fiorella and the "antidate" and would not your combined energies spent on fighting the sexual slavery of your own countrywomen be more rewarding to each of you than bashing these silly men.  Elen,  you too would be an asset in this,  these are afterall....your people.

Can't catch your ideas in fighting sex slavary:?

As for me personal all what I can do is to put "right" ideas into brains of my own daughter for she would never fall in such "business" ( I'm not about sex slave THAt is not a "threat" for her cos she is already grew up "right" I'm about dating with foriegners) And anti-dates sites are very usefull for me.

What's you suggestion? Should we go into some sex slave nest and free all poor girls?

 

 
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Seems he calls us for battle against women trafficking while he will be drink wine in later time, philosophize about horrors of prostitution and his countrymen will come to Russia and use our kids

Tim what have you done to help all those women who are sold as the slave?

 

 

[BC]

Only education can help this situation. This subject has been covered quite well over the years in the west and I think I even remember seeing some TV public service ad in RU warning women being enticed by 'good jobs' in the west.  This theme has been also covered quite well in media circles and kitchen table discussions throughout RU.

Yes some still get suckered into the darker side of this business but IMHO the 'totally innocent' girl will hopefully be less and less common over time.

There's even unorganized slavery going on in the form of men enticing women truly interested in marriage for their own personal form of slavery.  I would think it's not far fetched or uncommon to find many wannabe selfserving 'pimps' among MOB lurkers.

Most coutries where prostitution is legal (and there are many), outlaw pimping and many women working in the industry are free to do what they want and are even quite successful. Walk throught the redlight districts in A'dam, Frankfurt, Hamburg, etc etc and it will be hard for you to find a woman that has had her passport taken away from her by an abusive pimp. The greater portion of true slavery occurs where such business is illegal and/or where local women have better economic possibilities elsewhere leaving a gap that is quickly filled by women from other countries.

But like other industries i.e. construction, wherever there is a 'system' there will be some who will abuse it for illegal profit. The more open and deregulated legal markets  are the less profitable and dangerous illegal activities become.

We all complain about abuses, scams etc but in the end the root cause is always demand - and for the demand men looking for an 'easier softer way' are surely at fault.

[Bruno]

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Bruno.  You type and talk alot.  Maybe YOU are the guy to give these poor hopeless women a website???  Link it with the UN and th Media?  Whattcah think?  Or is it more convenient for you to just sit and type.  20 posts per day.  Whats it gonna be?  And bitter-pill Marc...maybe you ought to help Bruno with this?  Wahttcha 'tink?  Maybe Big time Fiorella and Kivinna will join in too---but maybe they are way to comfortable bashing men.
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Tim, some year ago, i was enough active in a association in Gent who help hookers who wish go out of the prostitution sector... we was collaborate with gouverment for give a new identity because of problem with the "owner" of the ladies... with time, i have understand that it was a loosing fight... you save one, two new are coming... we can only fight on three level :

- First, adapt our laws :  in Belgium, prostitution is not illegal but pimp are not allowed... it is the choice of woman to make this "work"... they need register her "business", have medical control, paper in order, ... in some contry, the laws fight against customer... without customer, no more prostitution...

- Second, inform the woman about the potential risico... it is why i have plan to make a link to anti-date on my site...

- At least, educate the man... it is why i have make this post...

Just sit and type... I make my 8 hours work every days like all workers ( i need work, i am not rich and i need food ) and i use ALL my free time for reply to post and sometime to start new topic... type is not the big work, search the info is the big work... i sleep only 6 hours days... make more, i cannot...


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And Bruno,  there are far more credible sources than the ones you mention.  Do your research.  You will do well.  FYI:  Belgium is a gateway.
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I have source over Belgium... Belgium is a transit country due to his geographics position in Europe... We are surounder by Holland, Germany, Luxemburg, France, UK... due to his little size ... you need only one hour for reach the surrounding country...

About source, i have choice these who speak about the working of marriage agency in the traffic of sex slave... it is why i have post only some part of article and some part of the official report...


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Only education can help this situation... We all complain about abuses, scams etc but in the end the root cause is always demand - and for the demand men looking for an 'easier softer way' are surely at fault.
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Great post BC... education from both woman and man is the keyword... and i think that Italy try to make a great work for fight these problem... the fight of Italia against mafia working is a great example... same italian lawer have pay these fight with own lfe but they have catch big fish... and i remember some collaboration in the year 90 between military Navy from several country and Italian costguard for stop traffic between Italy and ex-yougoslavia ( montenegro - Albanie )... our operating zone was between Brindisi and Bari... and our fuel was offer by a american basis in Italy... and the same american basic have help everybody with a Awacs...

Yep, all is not black in these world... some people fight for a better world...

But come back on the topic... it is about sex slave and marriage...

... The man often expect to have sex with the women as part of "getting to know them"... one man admitted, "we are not here to get married"...

What about the truly intention of man... only for sex tourist or real marriage ? Remember some reaction at the post of RetiredMilitaryMan from the russian woman side...

...in many cases, the man who buy the "romance tours" who are offered by these agencys seem to treat them as prostitution or sexual exploitation tours...

This was about tour organised by marriage agency... let go people who have use tour, say your own meaning... share your experience and say what you have see...

In 1997, 747 US fiancée visas were issued to Russian woman , and 282 to Ukrainian women... one-third of the woman who come to the US on fiancée visa return to Russia...

And what about people who use K1 visa for a cheap sex partner during three month... if you count the price of local hooker for the night, and count this during 3 month, it is really more cheap to import a russian woman... when i think that normally a K1 is for fiancée and normally used for get married... 33% of return is a very high purcent...

[tim 360]

Sorry to have ruffled some feathers.  Of course little can be done when confronted by the organized crime which traffics the girls and has nothing to do with this board except incidentally.  One could easily be killed for interfering.   And it is a rather sad and dismal subject.  Of course,  it does answer the question of just what group is scammed the worst.......it is the women.  The huge problem can only be addressed internationally by governments,  not on an Mob message board. 

 

[Bruno]

"Les petites rivières font les grands Oceans"

"The small rivers make the large Oceans"

Only speak about problem is a begin of solutions... Like JB say, the basis work is education... inform both woman and man about these problem is a education process... in the case of MOB, both woman and man can control some red flags about this...

Gouverment don't move if citizen don't protest... usual, the press is a start punt for information... follow by official report from humanitaire organisation... follow by protest of people... follow by action of gouverment...

And it is working, ... around 10 year ago, our Belgium gouverment have fall because the citizen have not agree with working of police and justicy... the bad work of the state have lead to the murder of several children by pedophile... people have protest and now, in all europa, we are busy with the cleaning of these pedophile problem...

About prostitution, some organisation lead by citizen have use special and original method for stop this... the people take photo from customer of prostitute and publish it... after some time, the sex business is no more working because the customer dissappear...

In France, they wish vote a new laws who is against customer... maximum 2 year jail and 30000 euro for customer of hooker... Since 1999, a law like this is already working in Sweden...

In Belgium, we have new laws who fight the "white marriage"... people who receive money from mafia for marry foreign woman... before, the woman was send back in his country... now, she can stay if she make a law conplain and the false husband can go in jail...

About US, i have find nothing... except site were US man post ads for make a paper marriage for money with foreign woman... is it some laws in US who can fight this ?

 

[BC]

Fighting and restricting this 'trade' just pushes it back into even darker and more dangerous corners.

[Bruno]

And don't send criminal to jail, they become more bad after... a other BS

Like everybody cry about freedom and private life... bad guys use these freedom and private life for hurt yourself...

Remove the hooker, you have 2 new tomorow... Traffic of woman exist because of big money pay by customer... remove the customer and the business go dissappear...

 

[Turboguy]

My thoughts on all this are that if Natasha or Svetlana decides she can have a beatiful life and lots of money being a hooker,  I think that is her choice and if that is what she wants and she wants to assume the risks healthwise and to the ego that is her choice and I have no problem for that.

If Bruno or Turboguy in his young, free days decides he needs the company of a woman and it is worth spending a few bucks and they are willing to assume the risks involved, that is thier choice and I have no problem with that.   Frankly I would like to see prostitution legalized.

If Lena or Marina answer an ad for an Au pair or to be a Runway model in Paris and find themselves kidnapped, beaten, raped, their passports taken and held in captivity in some slezy joint where they must do what their captors say or they are told thier parents will be killed or they will be killed and they get next to nothing for their efforts.  That to me is a low and horrible thing.    I don't know that there is an answer except for the law enforcement people to crack down on it.   I think education is probably the best answer otherwise.   There needs to be someway people can check on the legitimacy of those au pair and model ads and more awareness of what is really happening.

[acrzybear]

  Here are a few of the U.S Federal statutes dealing with immigration and slavery issues.  These are but a few of the sections I would look at for charging someone, it all depends on how creative the Officer/Agent wants to get.  You could go as far as lying on an official Government document to unlawful entry in to the U.S for criminal intent.  These are just criminal statutes if a woman was brought into and married in the U.S under false pretenses, she would also have civil means.  This would be along the lines of violating a contract... ie the man promised her a certain things and did not follow through.  Of course this is not cheap, it only works if she knows what sort of alternatives she has and it doesn't replace the trust that was taken advantage of.

Now the legal stuff

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