The Russian/Syrian connection thread

[BillyB]

Trump went live on tv tonight to call out Russia and Putin specifically to address their failed promise to rid Syria of chemical weapons. Whether or not one believes Assad is guilty in the latest incident, he was found guilty in previous incidences and Russia didn't make another attempt to rid Syria of chemical weapons.

I applaud Trump for being bold and one of the few leaders in the world to punish those who violate international law and commit crimes against humanity. The bombing of Assad's forces will probably cost American taxpayers over 100 million dollars. What does America get out of it? Trump isn't going to take over Syria. Trump isn't even going to take their oil. Trump just wants to save some lives by making Assad think twice about using chemical weapons on civilians again.

[alex330]

The videos of all the dead kids foaming at the mouth with burned eyeballs are horrific. Get em Mattis.

[alex330]

And of course, all talk from Russia. Nothing done on their end, they even let RAF Tornados in to bomb targets in areas under their control.

[BillyB]

World Health Organization said around 500 patients came to the partner clinics and exhibited signs of exposure to chemical weapons. Is all the partner clinics lying in unison or is Russia lying when they say there was no trace of chemicals in their investigation?

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/statements/2018/chemical-attacks-syria/en/

Photo below is a sample of the housing Assad is providing the citizens of his country. All this death and destruction just so he can stay in power.

[alex330]

Is all the partner clinics lying in unison or is Russia lying when they say there was no trace of chemicals in their investigation?

From the link I posted -



Smuggling routes in and out of Damascus are well travelled, and makeshift crossings along the watertight Jordanian border can suddenly open whenever there’s a need. Getting samples, especially corpses, to laboratories has been a top priority this week as the US has tried to establish if the gas that was dropped contained more than chlorine.

[BillyB]

WHO also said “WHO demands immediate unhindered access to the area to provide care to those affected, to assess the health impacts, and to deliver a comprehensive public health response.”

Russia and Syria didn't comply with their request.

Also note in their link they've been issuing antidotes for nerve agents to Syrian civilians since 2014. 2013 was when Syria was supposed to be free of chemical weapons.

[msmob]

Well, while we sleep it seems the US FR and UK insulted the Russian President..

[DaveNY]

Well, while we sleep it seems the US FR and UK insulted the Russian President..

Is there anything we can do to make Putin feel better? 

[Belvis]

Is there anything we can do to make Putin feel better? 

Nope. He has no Twitter or Facebook accounts so no option to send him "likes".
Though you may vote for Trump next term, it would be perfectly fine for Putin 

[BillyB]

Operation Desert Stormy is over. Strike package Bravo has been delivered. Trump says "Mission Accomplished". It's a much weaker attack than Trump promised targeting known chemical weapons facilities. Putin will feel the threats and pressure he applied had made an impact on Trump's decision. Assad's conventional weapons systems are still intact and they will take their revenge out on the rebels and civilians while the rest of the world is too tired to pay attention to their never ending war.

[alex330]

It's all a game. Trump huffs and puffs, Putin moves his ragged navy out of port for a planned event, flies his planes to Iran, and Syria moves the chemical weapons to a new location. We shoot missiles at empty warehouses for a fireworks show. Everyone is happy and saves face.

[msmob]

And of course, all talk from Russia. Nothing done on their end, they even let RAF Tornados in to bomb targets in areas under their control.

Well, they can hardly shoot em down if outside Syrian airspace

[alex330]

Well, they can hardly shoot em down if outside Syrian airspace

I could be mistaken but sounds like a route was cleared with Russia and they did enter Syrian airspace. I now see that Russia says it will only use it's air defenses to protect it's own troops though.  So looks like open season on Assad.

[msmob]

I could be mistaken

You were ! ))

As soon as the Tornados leave Akrotiri and clear Cypriot airspace they can fire without being in Syrian airspace - the range of the fire and forget missiles used is 300 miles

I lived on the front at the extreme RHS of the photo ( Limassol, Cyprus)



It's only 200 miles from Limassol to Damascus !

[alex330]

Missed this one a while back. The Russian mercs keep trying to push that river crossing 


Looks like they avoided a second massacre with help from Moscow.


http://www.newsweek.com/us-wanted-attack-russians-syria-again-moscow-stepped-mattis-says-864666

[BillyB]

It's all a game. Trump huffs and puffs, Putin moves his ragged navy out of port for a planned event, flies his planes to Iran, and Syria moves the chemical weapons to a new location. We shoot missiles at empty warehouses for a fireworks show. Everyone is happy and saves face.

That's about what happened. I read somewhere Russia secretly asked America for a significantly reduced strike and in exchange they'll be open to a political solution to end the Syrian war. Russia was open to a political solution in Ukraine too. How did that work out?

[jone]

So, Spanky and the Gang shoot missiles at Syria (Notice the reference to Stormy Daniels).  I was interested to see that Russia claims that Syria shot down 71 of the 109 missiles shot and the US Pentagon spokes person said every missile hit its target.  Based on the known capabilities of both the Syrians and the coalition, I'd be more inclined to believe the Pentagon spokesperson than the Russians.  Their pronouncements are becoming more and more like you might hear from your stockbroker on a Black Friday.  (This is a great time to get in on some undervalued stocks.)

The Russians have to know if they keep spewing unbelievable truths, that they will never have anyone believing anything they say.   Oh, well.  That's their problem.  After all.  We've got Trump and not many people believe things that come out of his mouth.

[tfcrew]

Russian troll activity increased 2,000% after Syrian airstrikes

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russian-troll-activity-increased-2000percent-after-syrian-airstrikes/vp-AAvSB1V

[tfcrew]

Trump says "Mission Accomplished" ...

That's what W said [I recall]

[BillyB]

That's what W said [I recall]

Yes, W said that in 2003 pertaining to the end of the war in Iraq and it came back to haunt him.

From the few photos released I've seen of the damaged buildings they appear to be empty. Just concrete and rebar shown. No signs of office equipment or paperwork littering the outsides of the buildings. Trump told them we're coming so they had time to empty the buildings and hide all valuable equipment and military hardware on Russian bases.

[DaveNY]

New to these forums and I was looking at one of RWD's competing sites that has been mentioned here before, RUA. Their opinion of the Syrian conflict seems to be diametrically opposed to what is generally stated here. Many of RUA's members back Russia and Syria, most without reservation, even though the members appear to be mostly Americans and Brits.

None of RUA's members appear to live or have lived in Russia/FSU and appear to spend little time in the FSU. These members sole connection appears to be the fact that they have a Russian wife, although some are not even in a relationship with a Russian. Makes me wonder why they're so pro Russia and anti American/anti UK?

[alex330]

The members on the other forum are mostly Brits married to Russian women. Many of them currently live, have lived, or own second homes in Russia. The site owner and admins are all very pro Russian and lean that way. Several of them have been involved (paid?) with Russian media. The other forum is more of a toy for the owner at this point.


It used to be pretty good and a nice mix of people, but when the Uke/Russian thing started it went to shit.

[BillyB]

These members sole connection appears to be the fact that they have a Russian wife, although some are not even in a relationship with a Russian. Makes me wonder why they're so pro Russia and anti American/anti UK?

Some of those guys there leaned extreme left before they got married. I've debated a few of those guys in the past. Although extreme left to us Americans, they are just on the left from a European viewpoint.

[msmob]

There's 2 Brits who live in Russia, one who says he lives in Estonia,  knows b'all Russian and posts as if he is an expert on women and is perennially single.

The most prodigious  poster MAY have been to the FSU once and and probably lives off benefits ..US based and is unsure of his ID, or he he is the 'uncle or the nephew

The best part is that most of the pro Kremlin posters do not GO to Russia, refuse to go through the visa process and post as if they 'know' ..

The board took a commercial decision to go political and take money from the Kremlin.

My profile there is written by the owner, who allows a Brit living in a Islamic country to delete any post that proves him clueless and deletes any post that shows up a pro-Kremlin leaning member.



If you disagree you are a 'russophobe' or a liberal

Pure entertainment, as those type of members have found the only place they  can vent in a majority.

[JayH]

New to these forums and I was looking at one of RWD's competing sites that has been mentioned here before, RUA. Their opinion of the Syrian conflict seems to be diametrically opposed to what is generally stated here. Many of RUA's members back Russia and Syria, most without reservation, even though the members appear to be mostly Americans and Brits.

None of RUA's members appear to live or have lived in Russia/FSU and appear to spend little time in the FSU. These members sole connection appears to be the fact that they have a Russian wife, although some are not even in a relationship with a Russian. Makes me wonder why they're so pro Russia and anti American/anti UK?

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22265.msg480422#msg480422

Re: My new life in the Republic of Georgia
« Reply #269 on: April 06, 2018, 02:41:05 PM »
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"Maxx --you should realise that a LOT of us here are banned over there !!Some here have also left & never returned.
In my case it was my comments at Manny made directly to him on THIS forum ( he has not been back as far as I know).
The role call of the rua banned here is long !
A few of the extremists here were banned but on seeing their pro Rus comments here they got "invited" back there.
You must have said something nice about Ukraine to get banned over there !!

For others-- you need to look at the connection over there to the  Russian propaganda channels  & individuals that keep it afloat !I would also add -- the number of posters ( is it a majority?) that are sock puppets being used over there to make it look like there is actual real traffic on the site.
It has a fraction of the real traffic it used to have."