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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #400 on: October 28, 2014, 10:08:29 PM »
In spite of Obama policies, we are reducing our dependence on foreign oil, and oil prices are falling dramatically.   Speaking of stimulus, do you realize what a stimula lower energy prices are to the American economy?  H-U-G-E.   The average American has more money to spend, our manufacturers have a competitive edge, etc.   

 :clapping: 

And in spite of Obama's failed foreign policy, falling oil prices are hurting Russia's ability to wage war on their neighbors badly as well.

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US to Grant Weapons to Ukraine
« Reply #401 on: October 29, 2014, 01:15:43 AM »
US to Grant Weapons to Ukraine in the Next Two Weeks - US Senator

28.10.2014 21:39
He said during a briefing at the Ukraine Crisis Media Center, Censor.NET reports citing Ukrainska Pravda.

According to him, the Senate session, where the issue will be considered, will begin Nov. 12. Inhofe said that President Barack Obama can grant the permission to provide these weapons by his own. "If the president does not do so until that time, we will do everything to make it happen," he added.

According to him, this process may take from 4-5 days to two and a half weeks. Inhofe also said that he has received the list of weapons, which is expected to be provided to Ukraine, from the Secretary of Defense but refused to disclose its contents to the journalists.


He specified that Ukraine does not need to make any changes to the legislation or pass special procedures for weapons' granting since the defensive ones are meant.

He also noted that the US does not intend to take part in military operations in Ukraine. "I'm not saying that the United States will be involved in military activities. I'm talking about the support of one of our strongest allies - Ukraine," he said. Inhofe also assured that all the political forces and the US authorities are now united around the need to help Ukraine and prevent its return to the Soviet past.



He recalled that the US will soon carry out elections to the Senate. Inhofe expects Republicans to win a majority and the policy of this body on Ukraine, in particular, will change significantly as a result. "You'll see that the Republicans are more focused on National Security and Defense," the senator assured. He also said the United States now consider Ukraine one of its main partners and added that during 20 years of his stay in the Senate he has never seen such a warm welcome as the one President Poroshenko was met with.

The decision on granting Ukraine weapons is known to be made in the US Senate in mid-September.

« Last Edit: October 29, 2014, 01:20:18 AM by JayH »
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Obama may supply arms to Ukraine
« Reply #402 on: October 29, 2014, 01:25:15 AM »
Obama may decide to supply arms to Ukraine without senate approval



The United States President Barack Obama can decide to supply arms to Ukraine for self-defense without the approval of the Senate, said Jim Inhofe, a deputy head of the Senate Committee on Armed Forces.

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/obama-may-decide-to-supply-arms-to-ukraine-without-senate-approval-369820.html
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #403 on: October 29, 2014, 02:03:59 AM »
(I'm not going to repeat your implied racial slur)

How many middle class Americans had jobs when he took over, and how many have them now?  Have middle class Americans (what's left of them) seen pay wages, or has their pay been declining?


(bla bla bla)


Man, you give a new meaning to dittohead!!


It is an obvious waste of time trying to discuss politics and economics with you.


Edit: I dare you look at me straight in the face and tell me you have never uttered the "racial slur"at the POTUS.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2014, 02:06:27 AM by Muzh »
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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #404 on: October 29, 2014, 12:50:43 PM »

Edit: I dare you look at me straight in the face and tell me you have never uttered the "racial slur"at the POTUS.


Now you're trying to project your own derisive opinion about the man onto me.

I have however referred to him lately as President Obola.

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Re: US to Grant Weapons to Ukraine
« Reply #405 on: October 29, 2014, 12:53:30 PM »
US to Grant Weapons to Ukraine in the Next Two Weeks - US Senator

28.10.2014 21:39
He said during a briefing at the Ukraine Crisis Media Center, Censor.NET reports citing Ukrainska Pravda.

According to him, the Senate session, where the issue will be considered, will begin Nov. 12. Inhofe said that President Barack Obama can grant the permission to provide these weapons by his own. "If the president does not do so until that time, we will do everything to make it happen," he added.

According to him, this process may take from 4-5 days to two and a half weeks. Inhofe also said that he has received the list of weapons, which is expected to be provided to Ukraine, from the Secretary of Defense but refused to disclose its contents to the journalists.


He specified that Ukraine does not need to make any changes to the legislation or pass special procedures for weapons' granting since the defensive ones are meant.

He also noted that the US does not intend to take part in military operations in Ukraine. "I'm not saying that the United States will be involved in military activities. I'm talking about the support of one of our strongest allies - Ukraine," he said. Inhofe also assured that all the political forces and the US authorities are now united around the need to help Ukraine and prevent its return to the Soviet past.



He recalled that the US will soon carry out elections to the Senate. Inhofe expects Republicans to win a majority and the policy of this body on Ukraine, in particular, will change significantly as a result. "You'll see that the Republicans are more focused on National Security and Defense," the senator assured. He also said the United States now consider Ukraine one of its main partners and added that during 20 years of his stay in the Senate he has never seen such a warm welcome as the one President Poroshenko was met with.

The decision on granting Ukraine weapons is known to be made in the US Senate in mid-September.

Who is this alleged Senator?  Is it Senator Inhoff?  Try to take more care in your posts; they're often very hard to decipher. 

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #406 on: October 29, 2014, 02:05:09 PM »
Jay, is ingratitude a uniquely Australian quirk or does that come with age?

FWIW, most the Aussies I met were top notch, but then again, I met them in the military.

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #407 on: October 29, 2014, 06:44:14 PM »

Man, you give a new meaning to dittohead!!


It is an obvious waste of time trying to discuss politics and economics with you.



Here's an example of typical Democratic politics and economics wrapped up into one:


http://www.caintv.com/youll-be-shocked-to-learn-that

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Britain sent military aid Ukrainian
« Reply #408 on: December 17, 2014, 06:11:54 PM »
Piece by piece   we are getting the info that confirms that help has started flowing.It has made a BIG difference to Ukrainian military from only 6 months ago when soldiers were having to buy their own equipment and food.


Britain sent military aid Ukrainian
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/velika-britaniya-nadislala-dopomogu-ukrayinskim-viyskovim-398096.html
Partner countries helping Armed Forces of Ukraine clothing, body armor and dry rations. facebook.com/a.aleksyeyenko Ukrainian military received support from their British counterparts. The Armed Forces of Ukraine received humanitarian aid from the United Kingdom. British colleagues gave Ukrainian servicemen winter form and equipment allowance. The press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. It is reported that during the 2014 Armed Forces of Ukraine assisted not only Britain but also other partner countries. Thus, the United States provided proprietary property and hardware, France - body armor and medical supplies, and Slovakia - generators, lighting kits, plastic utensils, proprietary equipment and medical supplies. In addition, Norway gave Ukrainian military packed lunch, and Denmark - technology. From Canada to Ukraine received personal protective equipment and winter clothing, and Poland - packed lunch and bedding. Lithuania sent dry rations, medical supplies, clothing property, Switzerland - medicines and medical supplies, and the Netherlands - generators and winter boots. Read more: Poland is ready to help Ukraine arms and equipment - Komorowski Spain has helped the defenders of Ukraine body armor and helmets. In turn, Latvia has provided school supplies and other necessary things for children of military personnel who have been displaced from ARC. Recall that in the near future assistance to the Armed Forces Ukraine plans to Australia and Poland.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/velika-britaniya-nadislala-dopomogu-ukrayinskim-viyskovim-398096.html
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #409 on: December 17, 2014, 08:55:58 PM »
Its peanuts.

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #410 on: December 17, 2014, 09:30:29 PM »
Its peanuts.

I agree-- but more important is that it is a least a start. It has also been going on for some time now .Anything that can help the guys in the frontline in any way--I am pleased to see.
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #411 on: December 17, 2014, 09:36:29 PM »
I am pleased. 

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #412 on: December 19, 2014, 02:07:30 AM »
Canada has been a very active participant in helping the Ukrainian military for months. Italy began recently.

Meanwhile the French have, at least for now, decided not to deliver the Mistral warships to Russia. In fact, the 400 Russian sailors training on the first Mistral have been recalled to Russia. Just 24 hours ago they departed France on the Russian ship Smolny and are en route back to Russia.
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Obama signed the "Freedom Support Act in Ukraine"
« Reply #413 on: December 19, 2014, 02:28:42 AM »
This is an important development--the thin edge of the wedge I hope. As I said above-- anything is good and at least a start.
Re Mende post above-- other countries that have been trying to help for some time--Hungary.Slovakia,Poland in particular.

Today--the most important development.




Obama announced that signed the "Freedom Support Act in Ukraine"

Детальніше читайте на УНІАН: http://www.unian.ua/politics/1023580-obama-povidomiv-scho-pidpisav-akt-na-pidtrimku-svobodi-v-ukrajini.html


http://www.unian.ua/politics/1023580-obama-povidomiv-scho-pidpisav-akt-na-pidtrimku-svobodi-v-ukrajini.html
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #414 on: December 19, 2014, 04:41:17 AM »
Its $ 350 million.  Stripped down Abrams tanks cost $ 8m.  Its peanuts.  Body armor and helmets save lives.  But in terms of what Ukraine has sacrificed and what Russia is giving its troops in Ukraine, it's a joke and a cruel one at that.

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #415 on: December 19, 2014, 05:02:12 AM »
But you know how it goes. As soon as you drive an Abrams off the lot the value goes down 1/3. ;)

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #416 on: December 19, 2014, 06:21:16 AM »
That is the used price.

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #417 on: December 19, 2014, 06:01:23 PM »
It is symbolic, and that is important too. It sends a message to the Kremlin, and Moscow must now wonder if more assistance will be forthcoming?


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« Reply #418 on: December 19, 2014, 08:34:18 PM »
The weakness of the West only provokes tyrants to further aggression.  This is the lesson of Munich.

Mendy,  you are a brave man.  But now you must see those in Russia who support Putin or are indifferent to Putin as the same as Hitler's Germans.  Certainly they share the same fate.

Only those that resisted Hitler like von Stauffenburg and the Widerstand as the true Germans just as the anti-Putin Opposition is the real Russia.  They are Russia's hope. 

Don't you agree?

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #419 on: December 19, 2014, 11:29:24 PM »
I've said many times that the West should saturate the media with videos, photos, etc. -evidence of Russian men and equipment in Ukraine. Also, I think it's important to post statements by separatist leaders, who often say they'd like to march all the way to the western borders. It's important that the world see these realities, in the context of aiding Ukraine.

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #420 on: December 20, 2014, 10:13:31 AM »
http://en.informnapalm.org/  has been doing a pretty good job of identifying the Muskovi army units in Ukraine.

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #421 on: December 20, 2014, 11:16:43 AM »
They will never admit it, but I believe that one of the reasons that GOOGLE is pulling units out of Russia stems from the enormous pressure to delete material, including material from YouTube, that runs counter to the Kremlin view on this conflict. There are groups who work for the Kremlin whose sole responsibility is the monitor the WWW and then quickly move to have a variety of responses available, and in many cases such material disappears.


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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #422 on: December 20, 2014, 11:20:49 AM »
Muskovi! )))))

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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #423 on: January 07, 2015, 02:11:32 AM »
JANUARY 06, 2015
NATO's Priority in 2015: Setting Up Reaction Force in Europe




With NATO officially out of combat operations in Afghanistan as of Jan. 1, the alliance's agenda is expected to be dominated by the new strategic realities in Europe conjured up by Moscow's annexation of Crimea and alleged proxy war in eastern Ukraine, and what the West should do in response. . . .
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/nato-s-priority-in-2015-setting-up-reaction-force-in-europe
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Re: Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.
« Reply #424 on: January 07, 2015, 04:57:27 AM »
JANUARY 06, 2015
NATO's Priority in 2015: Setting Up Reaction Force in Europe




With NATO officially out of combat operations in Afghanistan as of Jan. 1, the alliance's agenda is expected to be dominated by the new strategic realities in Europe conjured up by Moscow's annexation of Crimea and alleged proxy war in eastern Ukraine, and what the West should do in response. . . .
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/nato-s-priority-in-2015-setting-up-reaction-force-in-europe
the Dutch have already agreed to contributed 200 of their 250 soldiers to this.
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