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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #400 on: May 18, 2015, 07:04:18 AM »
  I watched that video of Nemtsov's murder many times.  Did you?
Yes.

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #401 on: May 18, 2015, 07:44:51 AM »
Doll, Chechens are Russian citizens.  Presumably your people trained these men to kill our people.  Who did it and why?  Now people in our government may believe that this information is privileged because we would use any derogatory information as leverage in negotiations between our 2 countries.  (I say this and refer to you as a Russian citizen even though your chosen residence is the United States.) The right of the people of these United States trumps any privilege this information may have.  I know that many of the President's supporters disagree with me.  I just respectfully remind them that he campaigned twice on open government.  We have a right to know.  If these people in both parties won't tell us, I encourage all who agree with me to hold them accountable in any forum of your choosing to include the ballot box.

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #402 on: May 18, 2015, 09:17:07 AM »
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Doll, Chechens are Russian citizens


Lord, Chechens are just a nation - just like I am half Belorussian, half Tatar, but I am Russian Citizen.
Tsarnaevs crossed the US border as Kirgizia's citizens, the kids grew up in the US, they were\are US citizens.
  Dzhokhar_Tsarnaev was 8 years old, his brother was a young teen when they arrived in this country. They grew up here.
Same way, my younger son came here when he was 8 and this is HIS country, he is an American.

So, again, Chechens are nation, they can be the citizens of ANY country.

So, what do we have, Lord? They are US citizens so YOUR people trained them.
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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #403 on: May 18, 2015, 09:55:48 AM »
Really?  Who trained them?

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #404 on: May 18, 2015, 10:15:57 AM »
Really?  Who trained them?
Good question.
 
Remember, 2 years prior to this marathon FBS  asked FBI to have some "stuff" to be checked?  What was the result?

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #405 on: May 18, 2015, 10:51:22 AM »
Good point.

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #406 on: May 18, 2015, 10:56:16 AM »
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The Russian government alerted the FBI to suspicions about one of two alleged Boston bombers, but US authorities failed to arrest him because of a spelling mistake.
 


According to a congressional report for the US House Homeland Security Committee seen by NBC News, Russia's intelligence agency warned US agents about Tamerlan Tsarnaev's links with militant Islamists as early as March 2011.
The FBI opened an investigation, Tsarnaev was interviewed in person and a memo was sent to the US Customs and Border Protection database - TECS - that would trigger an alert every time Tsarnaev left or re-entered the US.

The investigation was closed in June 2011, after the FBI found "no links to terrorism", NBC quotes the report as saying.
In September 2011, Russia's FSB sent a cable to the CIA restating their initial warning, and a second note on Tsarnaev was entered on the TECS system, but his name was misspelled "Tsarnayev".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/russia-warned-fbi-about-tsarnaev-brothers-but-name-was-misspelled-9217308.html


Misspelled? Then how FBI "found no links"?
The last name can be misspelled but the first, the middle names, date of birth and place of birth that come with the misspelled last name will show who this person is.

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #407 on: May 18, 2015, 11:07:29 AM »
again, when ANY person crosses the US boarder (or ANY border) he\she  is EASILY identified with 1) First, last and middle name 2) DOB 3)place of birth 4) NUMBER OF PASSPORT that comes first!!!
My son's name spelled differently - in 4 different ways! There were NO case he was not identified (in both Russia or US).

Lord, what's your question again? Or we're going to discuss 8 program and food stamps?

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #408 on: May 18, 2015, 11:19:05 AM »
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В 2011 году в ФСБ России подозревали, что Тамерлан Царнаев, погибший подозреваемый в террористической атаке на бостонский марафон, примкнул к радикальным исламистам и собирался ехать в Россию. Для этого тогда в США запрашивали по нему подробные сведения и предупредили о возможной опасности, исходящей от самого Тамерлана и его окружения, пишет "Комсомольская правда".

ФБР признало, что изучало деятельность Царнаева в 2011 г. и даже провело опрос членов его семьи, но «не обнаружило никаких следов террористической деятельности». Теперь американские правоохранительные органы при поддержке российских спецслужб они начинают прорабатывать все возможные версии.

Спецслужбы США подозревали Царнаевых в контактах с северокавказскими боевиками. Между тем, в российских силовых структурах сомневаются, что Царнаевы могли взаимодействовать с бандподпольем, в частности с «Имаратом Кавказ» и его лидером Доку Умаровым.
 
See? FBI talked to the family! Family of who- the person who they didn't know because of 'misspelled" last name? Then why did they talk to this family? What family? Just a random one?[/td][/tr][/table]

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #409 on: May 18, 2015, 11:20:48 AM »
want more?
No, you don't))

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #410 on: May 18, 2015, 11:31:42 AM »
Last "detail"- the older brother was in Russia prior to Boston Marathon WITH HIS PASSPORT that is thoroughly scanned and checked every time. ALL THE INFOR in travel passport is written in BOTH languages (let's assume he entered Russia with Russian passport). Then the last name in his green card (that is stored in USCIS system CORRECTLY spelled).

 The officer in the airport scans passport so there can not be any mistake. Then they take a picture of the passenger.
Or you want to tell me that FSB didn't have his picture?

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #411 on: May 18, 2015, 01:04:19 PM »
В сентябре 2011 года ФСБ направило депешу в ЦРУ, в которой вновь сообщила о своих опасениях. Источники NBC, близкие к расследованию Конгресса, сообщили, что после этого Царнаева вновь внесли в базу данных, но на этот раз его фамилия была записана по-другому (Tsarnayev вместо Tsarnaev).
 
Внесение в базу данных сопровождалось пометкой, что в случае попытки Царнаева пересечь границу США его задержание было «обязательным».
 
В январе 2012 года Царнаев прибыл в аэропорт имени Джона Кеннеди в Нью-Йорке для посадки на рейс в Москву, и система выдала предупреждение. Но оказалось, что он не занимал приоритетную позицию в «горячем списке» из 100 человек, путешествовавших через данный аэропорт в тот день. Об этом NBC сообщили источники, знакомые с докладом.


Sorry, can't understand this shit.


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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #412 on: May 18, 2015, 06:17:49 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316935/Boston-bombing-suspects-family-received-100-000-U-S-welfare-benefits.html


 :cluebat:

I repeat - NONE OF THIS FAMILY WERE ON WELFARE.  The fact that they had been earlier is irrelevant to your assertion.

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #413 on: May 18, 2015, 06:21:34 PM »
I repeat - NONE OF THIS FAMILY WERE ON WELFARE.  The fact that they had been earlier is irrelevant to your assertion.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/boston/welfare.asp

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #414 on: May 18, 2015, 06:25:31 PM »
want more?
No, you don't))

Brevity is the soul of wit, Missy.  What's your point?

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #415 on: May 25, 2015, 11:34:26 AM »



  People, what do you think of the spinning statistics of mass school shooting in this country?
  I assume that all shooters were raised in the United states and by american parents.  What made them pull  a gun and kill their teachers, classmates? Who trained them and why?  What country will you blame and which president?

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #416 on: May 25, 2015, 11:38:51 AM »


  People, what do you think of the spinning statistics of mass school shooting in this country?
  I assume that all shooters were raised in the United states and by american parents.  What made them pull  a gun and kill their teachers, classmates? Who trained them and why?  What country will you blame and which president?

In 99% of cases, the shooters are taking the same class of drugs.  Psychotropics, side effects can include loss of emotion, and suicidal and homicidal thoughts.
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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #417 on: May 25, 2015, 12:49:36 PM »
In 99% of cases, the shooters are taking the same class of drugs.  Psychotropics, side effects can include loss of emotion, and suicidal and homicidal thoughts.


  Possibly,  we may refer Tsarnaev's case to the same things. If he is the one who committed the crime. I don't know much about him though . Who knows if he took any drugs.
  Suppose the same kind of feelings triggered his religious motives. And it has nothing to do with Russia since the guy  had lived here for a long time.

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #418 on: May 25, 2015, 12:55:34 PM »
  I hope those pills (with such side effects) will be removed from the market  ::)

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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #419 on: May 25, 2015, 02:36:57 PM »
  I hope those pills (with such side effects) will be removed from the market  ::)

That will never happen since it is a Billion dollar industry.  More realistic is to report those on such medications and not allow them anywhere near a firearm.  Although crazy people when determined can use a car or other such thing as a weapon; at least do not allow them near firearms.


BTW, Welcome to this forum. 
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Re: Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?
« Reply #420 on: May 26, 2015, 11:02:30 AM »
That will never happen since it is a Billion dollar industry.  More realistic is to report those on such medications and not allow them anywhere near a firearm.  Although crazy people when determined can use a car or other such thing as a weapon; at least do not allow them near firearms.


BTW, Welcome to this forum.


   Thank you for your welcome  :)
 
Yes, at least something like that should be done

 

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