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RWD News From the Front => Ukrainian Front Discussion => Topic started by: ML on June 13, 2019, 09:13:26 AM

Title: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: ML on June 13, 2019, 09:13:26 AM
The United States Board on Geographic Names, or BGN, has changed its English spelling of Ukraine’s capital from Kiev to Kyiv, the Embassy of Ukraine in the U.S. announced in a statement on June 13.

The U.S. BGN is a federal body under the U.S. Secretary of the Interior that is tasked with deciding on the uniform standard of place names to be used by the U.S. Federal Government and its agencies.

The embassy says that the move is of great importance, as many international organizations, such as the International Air Transport Association, use the U.S. database of geographic names.

Apart from Kyiv, the ministry also requests that international media, organizations and companies use the Ukrainian names of other cities, like Kharkiv, Odesa, Mykolaiv, Lviv, and Ukraine, instead of “the Ukraine.”

http://www.kyivpost.com/world/kyiv-not-kiev-us-changes-spelling-of-ukrainian-capital.html
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: Steamer on June 13, 2019, 11:59:43 AM
Ok but I'm still going to pronounce it the same.    :D
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: msmob on June 13, 2019, 12:07:21 PM
Ok but I'm still going to pronounce it the same.    :D

..how about the spelling ? ;)
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: Steamer on June 13, 2019, 12:13:34 PM
..how about the spelling ? ;)


Baby steps, let me read it a few thousand times first.
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: tfcrew on June 13, 2019, 06:24:15 PM
..how about the spelling ?
Киев ?
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: SteveInBoston on June 13, 2019, 07:19:23 PM
Киев ?

No.

київ
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: tfcrew on June 13, 2019, 09:02:56 PM
Funny thing there...Prompt still translates київ as Kiev.
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: SteveInBoston on June 13, 2019, 10:21:52 PM
I noticed that too.   Even funnier, it translates to Kyiv in Italian.

Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: msmob on June 14, 2019, 03:07:54 AM
Funny thing there...Prompt still translates київ as Kiev.


Hardly ...

Did you check where ProMT are from ....?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROMT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROMT)


RUSSIAN ....






Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: Gator on November 15, 2019, 07:24:28 AM
The ultimate authority has spoken:   the New York Times has a brief story today on how to pronounce the capital of Ukraine. 

 
Quote
How to say ‘Kiev’

The impeachment hearings this week spawned a linguistic detour: How is the name of Ukraine’s capital pronounced?

Yuri Shevchuk, a lecturer in Ukrainian at Columbia University, said Ukrainians stressed the first vowel, and pronounced it like the “i” in the word “kid.” The second vowel sounds like the “ee” sound in “keel,” and the “v” is also pronounced like the end of the word “low.” (It’s a bit hard to describe; there is an audio clip here.)

In Russian, Kiev sounds more like “KEY-ev.” But U.S. State Department employees generally try to pronounce it the Ukrainian way — though at some points on Wednesday it sounded more like “keev,” with the long “ee” pronounced as a single syllable.

There is also a debate over how to spell the city’s name in English. The official State Department biography of George Kent, who testified on Wednesday, spells it Kyiv, which reflects the transliteration from Ukrainian. (The Times still uses Kiev, the transliteration from Russian.)

Dr. Shevchuk noted that, according to legend, the city was founded by a set of siblings around the sixth century and named for the eldest brother, Kyi.

Oddly, the newspaper still spells it as Kiev. 
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: msmob on November 15, 2019, 02:13:05 PM
The US, UK, IRL 'Oz and many more western nations that use 'English' manage to organiSe themselves to spell the capital on their embassy / consular  websites years ago ... may be 10 or more ..
Title: Re: Kyiv not Kiev now official for USA
Post by: Grumpy on November 16, 2019, 08:51:27 PM
Sum of us hav trouble spalling anithang kerrectly without sum turd changing the @#%^&*! spalling. :sad: