Trench's Questions and Philosophies

[Trenchcoat]

Once again -- you know absolutely zero of his circumstances yet again you deign to attempt an insult based on that.You are a petty little peanut.
As for you helping anyone -- only by showing how not to do it.

While I am bothering -- you worship of the sex tourist Roosh and his disciple DK illustrates what an idiot you truly are.

TMD seems to have no problem criticising me yet is not man enough to tell anyone his story, if he even has one to tell. I have let it be known what mine is despite knowing I would come under fire from the usual suspects. Is he scared of doing the same?

My comment in any case was to suggest he might benefit from help on here. Not necessarily from me but all forum members.

I'm not saying I agree with what Roosh is after or how he goes about it, but he has been there for a substantial time and made observations some of which I doubt are that far of the mark.

[Boethius]

That's a pretty amazing story Northkape Only read the first three pages so far but it's most engrossing. I was shocked to see the age gap between you and Lena, 45 ish to 22. Guess it was handy that you weren't significantly greying so it didn't look too amiss. She's very pretty also so you going 23 years in a relationship like that and having two sons is real good going.

You do realize Lena left him, right?

[Trenchcoat]

You do realize Lena left him, right?

Well yeah, but his going 13 years (not 23 apologies for the mobile phone typo earlier) is pretty outstanding with that age gap, her being pretty and coming from an industrial backwater.

If it were me commenting back then I wouldn't give him or probably any guy the likliehood of lasting that distance and having two sons.

I would have said he would be taken to the cleaners shortly after marriage and her domicile in the country they lived in, Norway I assume. I would have placed my bets on her cashing in and moving on in the shortest applicable time mainly due to age gap and points mentioned above. I think Northkape sounds like he has a great personality but even with that I would have thought it a grasp a relationship lasting that long.

[msmob]

Trench

your problems start when you post without thinking - AT ALL

You 'analyse' a failed relationship in terms of how much the FSU partner gets ..

Really, don't marry - pay for prostitutes - at least you'll know they are being honest with you ...

[Boethius]

So you’ll be happy if you “save” some FSUW from the “sh#thole” city she lives in, if she leaves you after some time?

[krimster2]

"Really, don't marry - pay for prostitutes - at least you'll know they are being honest with you ..."

would not at all surprise me if you could make the following "arrangement"

pay for Odessa escort - 1st time full price
2nd time half price straight to girl
propose that you do for her a fiancee visa - she comes lives with you until she gets a visa then s'long...
she's your "girlfriend" for a year for room and board and visa support...

I think you could negotiate that in certain parts of Ukraine

[Trenchcoat]

So you’ll be happy if you “save” some FSUW from the “sh#thole” city she lives in, if she leaves you after some time?

I think it depends upon the person and the relationship. Some relationships turn stale over time, and it may be a godsend to move on. Others may become deeply unhappy ag a relationship break up however far down the track it is.

Some guys are happy if they achieved their aim of a couple of children out of it, do long ad the children don't suffer due to the relationship break down. Sometimes in life things can be better with a shake up occasionally to keep life interesting. I think gone are the days where a divorce is seen as a life & death moment in a couple's life.

[Trenchcoat]

Trench

your problems start when you post without thinking - AT ALL

You 'analyse' a failed relationship in terms of how much the FSU partner gets ..

Really, don't marry - pay for prostitutes - at least you'll know they are being honest with you ...

Mobers I noticed you've  been away for a while, you haven't by any chance been finding out what a real banya experience is have you? A sort of 'So that's what you meant when you said you wanted a Sauna!' to the other half. Filling in that vital part of FSU culture where old Trenchy got the jump on you for once, O forum expert

[Boethius]

Screwing a woman in a banya  is hardly a “real FSU experience”.

[Boethius]

I think it depends upon the person and the relationship. Some relationships turn stale over time, and it may be a godsend to move on. Others may become deeply unhappy ag a relationship break up however far down the track it is.

Some guys are happy if they achieved their aim of a couple of children out of it, do long ad the children don't suffer due to the relationship break down. Sometimes in life things can be better with a shake up occasionally to keep life interesting. I think gone are the days where a divorce is seen as a life & death moment in a couple's life.

Children always suffer when they are faced with a broken home, no matter what all the divorced men on this forun profess to the contrary.  There is a ton of research on this. The only exception is extremely high conflict families.

[krimster2]

“Screwing a woman in a banya  is hardly a “real FSU experience”.

Bo, this is a subject that seems to elicit some bitterness from you...
where there is smoke, you sometimes encounter fire
is there a reason?

otherwise treating someone’s sexuality as though it is indecent, inhibits my own enjoyment and freedom of expression, because I’m thinkin’ well if she thinks he’s weird, wait till she finds out about MY predilections (they’re good I promise you!!)...

Bo, for all we know you might be a Dominatrix who wears a black mask and holds a whip
or you may be a person who completely lacks any imagination in this regard

you never reveal that about yourself
oh my, a Canadian woman inhibited about the topic of sex, never seen that before...

or prove me wrong...

was there sex in the Soviet Union???

write from the heart
first hand, please...

[Boethius]

There is no bitterness.

Banya experiences were never about sex. Plus, every hotel banya is monitored, and I’m not into public displays of sex. I don’t watch porn, and I have no interest in participating in public pornography.

I also don’t think there is much of a comparison between a LTR built on mutual respect and love, and two animals humping while each pursues (their) own interests. Call me old fashioned.

[msmob]

 

[msmob]

Mobers I noticed you've  been away for a while

It's called a holiday, Trench ...  There are FAR more interesting things to do that read  your drivel

you haven't by any chance been finding out what a real banya experience is have you?

As previously mentioned - a 'sauna' in a basement of a FSU hotel is no real banya....   no need to keep proving your 'expertise' on such experiences  ... 

It is noted you ignored my serious advice to you

[krimster2]

gee BO,

have you ever experienced “visual ecstasy” in the opposite sex?
a human so beautiful they were like a god
that you should bow down to?


consider the definition of a “nubile young woman” in Ukraine
18-25+ or so...
flawless, perfect Olympian body
every...single...detail...perfect...
a visual treat par excellence
like a wild pony...
with the smell of hay

and if the beautiful pony
is so delightful to look at
then touching it...
riding it...


eros is a bitter potion to some
intoxicating to others
and then there’s me...
passed out in the shrubbery...

a strange source of knowledge
second hand knowledge is not the best source BO
your husband was your first and only true love..
I have loved many times
all were different
all were wonderful

when I was much younger
I once loved a woman more than 15 years my senior
she used to like to stare at me when I came out of the shower
and she was always quick with the towel to dry me off
so I felt at first her eyes upon me, devouring me
and then her long slender hands...
she taught me how to build tension
and then give a release
she called me "her treasure"
like Lord of the Rings"

[Boethius]

Not particularly important to women. At your age, you should know that.  . That’s very fortunate for most of the men posting here. 

[krimster2]

"Not particularly important to women. At your age, you should know that. 

my answer is both "YES" and "NO"

I have a clearer picture of you now, yes...
forgive the gentle "probing"

you're just not interested in sex, and find the whole subject 'annoying'


so, what stimulates BO?
what makes her "all sweaty"?
hmm...???

[krimster2]

i mean philosophy...poetry?????

[Boethius]

I’m not interested in discussing my sex life, no.

[Trenchcoat]

It is noted you ignored my serious advice to you

It's not needed Mobe. I'm capable of making a go of this without such as you describe. I have a trip coming up next month so may come good there, who knows

[Trenchcoat]

Banya experiences were never about sex. Plus, every hotel banya is monitored, and I’m not into public displays of sex. I don’t watch porn, and I have no interest in participating in public pornography.

You mean they may have had cctv up inside the sauna itself I didn't notice any unless it was done real covert style. I thought a private banya meant just that.

[Trenchcoat]

So you’ll be happy if you “save” some FSUW from the “sh#thole” city she lives in, if she leaves you after some time?

Just been looking up, it seems like Norway is a country that supports the institution of marriage  - similar to Ukraine all property owned before marriage can't be claimed by other half in divorce no matter what. Seems Northkape's only mistake was paying for her to get a degree & career level job. If not they would probably still be together if he so wanted.

[JayH]

Just been looking up, it seems like Norway is a country that supports the institution of marriage  - similar to Ukraine all property owned before marriage can't be claimed by other half in divorce no matter what. Seems Northkape's only mistake was paying for her to get a degree & career level job. If not they would probably still be together if he so wanted.

His post above again illustrates that he thinks he can own a woman  -- and that he can "buy" her on the cheap ! That is the entire basis of his thinking -- as I said a long time ago-- a social misfit.

[Trenchcoat]

His post above again illustrates that he thinks he can own a woman  -- and that he can "buy" her on the cheap ! That is the entiere basis of his thinking -- as I said a long time ago-- a social misfit.

To my mind Jay if a woman pronounces her undying love to a guy & commitment then she shouldn't mind if she can't gain monetarily from a marriage. If a girl pronounces her undying love but hides the sole intention of uscrupulously using ghe man they only have themselves to blame.

Comes back to the question of why the woman is looking abroad. For some it may well be solely because they can't find the love they want at home. Many we know do want a better life into the bargain, nothing wrong with that, a bit of give and take, reasonable enough. However, how many girls once they have that better life then don't want to stop there, how many gain the attitude, 'that was before, things are different now'. They might have not originally intended to go for more but now that things are different and they see that they can. Never mind that they would have never been elevated out of the industrial dumpsk if it were not for you. I'm just saying that the girl got a fair and equitable deal in the first place given her circumstances so if that was what was originally accepted that is how it should remain.

[Boethius]

To my mind Jay if a woman pronounces her undying love to a guy & commitment then she shouldn't mind if she can't gain monetarily from a marriage. If a girl pronounces her undying love but hides the sole intention of uscrupulously using ghe man they only have themselves to blame.                 

And what about you?  Are you planning on telling women that you want a wife who will wear short skirts so you are in a continual state of arousal, that you want her to be tied to the kitchen and bed, to service your needs as you deem fit, that you don't want her to further her education - nope, only menial labour for her, as it fits with what you desire.  Shouldn't you tell a woman that on the first date, so that she isn't wasting time with you?

Comes back to the question of why the woman is looking abroad. For some it may well be solely because they can't find the love they want at home. Many we know do want a better life into the bargain, nothing wrong with that, a bit of give and take, reasonable enough. However, how many girls once they have that better life then don't want to stop there, how many gain the attitude, 'that was before, things are different now'. They might have not originally intended to go for more but now that things are different and they see that they can. Never mind that they would have never been elevated out of the industrial dumpsk if it were not for you. I'm just saying that the girl got a fair and equitable deal in the first place given her circumstances so if that was what was originally accepted that is how it should remain.

krimster told you - she is looking abroad because she can have a better life.  If she is going to live with a guy who can't support her, or who is so cheap he won't help her fulfill her dreams (such as an education and interesting job), then she can marry a UM.  You are no trade up from them, and I would bet physically, they are largely more appealing than you.

You are aware, I assume, that people in Ukraine can move as they desire?  They can move to areas of the country that have more jobs and are more attractive, just like anyone in the West can.  You are not saving a woman.  That is a huge problem in your posts, and it is why the only women you will attract will be grifters - because of your attitude.