Chicken Kiev Weekend

[John Gaunt]

I buy a lot of my wife’s clothes, both everyday stuff and more high end stuff, evening wear and underwear.
Very rarely do I get it wrong.
She’s not shy of telling people who bought the clothes.

[Trenchcoat]

Ok, somehow this topic has drifted on women's underwear, interesting how some of our minds think

Anyway, back to me I am in need of my evenings/nights filling while in Kiev, assuming I have not already found someone. Anyone know of some good nightclubs/bars to go to for women?

I've been to the Skybar (nightclub) before and that rocked pretty awesome. I'm not sure how effective it might be as a pick up place though for the impression people were already in couples, family groups there a bit.

[Trenchcoat]

Ok, well I've got my room booked now, did it through ebookers and with my ebookers member discount and saved coupon discount of from previous hotel stays I managed to get the room for just under £30 a night It looks quite a decent place near Shevchenko Park, I'll let you know of it after my stay and my thoughts on it I decided to stick with that for this trip as it's a nice area near the station without being so close as to be on top of it.

I decided that I can just travel to other locations should Shevchenko area prove not to be ideal for me. Some other parts of Kiev are not that great looking or ideal for finding women so I decided to stick to areas I like this time. So with airport parking sorted all pretty much set to go

[msmob]

FFS

Tell us what places are 'good' for looking for a FSU wife...


Most normal blokes visit sites where ladies give a clear signal they are interested..

Wandering around aimlessly with your 'social skills' ....?...

You are wasting your time and cyberspace..

[Trenchcoat]

FFS

Tell us what places are 'good' for looking for a FSU wife...


Most normal blokes visit sites where ladies give a clear signal they are interested..

Wandering around aimlessly with your 'social skills' ....?...

You are wasting your time and cyberspace..

What like bars and nightclubs?

[John Gaunt]

Ok, well I've got my room booked now, did it through ebookers and with my ebookers member discount and saved coupon discount of from previous hotel stays I managed to get the room for just under £30 a night It looks quite a decent place near Shevchenko Park, I'll let you know of it after my stay and my thoughts on it I decided to stick with that for this trip as it's a nice area near the station without being so close as to be on top of it.

I decided that I can just travel to other locations should Shevchenko area prove not to be ideal for me. Some other parts of Kiev are not that great looking or ideal for finding women so I decided to stick to areas I like this time. So with airport parking sorted all pretty much set to go

So Trench is going to go perving in Shevchenko Park on the say so of that other numpty here.
It’s a good job I’m not in Kyiv or I might get hold of Trench and kick his arse downhill all the way to Bessarabskaya.

[msmob]

What like bars and nightclubs?

So, you think such places are a place to find a wife?...

I have news for you...  Most ladies who go clubbing in packs are there to dance and have a good time...NOT to find a Brit who is clueless about how to socially interact ..

[Trenchcoat]

FFS

Tell us what places are 'good' for looking for a FSU wife...


Most normal blokes visit sites where ladies give a clear signal they are interested..

Wandering around aimlessly with your 'social skills' ....?...

You are wasting your time and cyberspace..

You are the one who said the above, so what sites in your opinion should I go too?

[Nightwish]

You are the one who said the above, so what sites in your opinion should I go too?

you are looking for a single woman without child, and you aim to find them sitting around parks in Kyiv just waiting for you to come up and chat with them?
Or could you tell some more on how you intend to do this, what approach?

I know there is a lot of single women in Kyiv in early to mid thirties, I could introduce you to a dozen tomorrow if I wanted to, but to my knowledge I never heard them saying "oh today I am going to the park alone"
Not that I understand everything they say to my girl when they speak Russian, but I sort of get the essence of the conversation most often explained to me after.

but that sort of talk I have never heard, so.. how will you find women? How will you approach them?

[msmob]

You are the one who said the above, so what sites in your opinion should I go too?

You are indeed inattentive ..

I was referring to your "no plan, and see what turns up"  and your suggesting bars and nightclubs would be your 'methodology '

Dating sites are what NORMAL guys use to line up at least one  lady who may actually be seeking a partner

[Trenchcoat]

you are looking for a single woman without child, and you aim to find them sitting around parks in Kyiv just waiting for you to come up and chat with them?
Or could you tell some more on how you intend to do this, what approach?

I know there is a lot of single women in Kyiv in early to mid thirties, I could introduce you to a dozen tomorrow if I wanted to, but to my knowledge I never heard them saying "oh today I am going to the park alone"
Not that I understand everything they say to my girl when they speak Russian, but I sort of get the essence of the conversation most often explained to me after.

but that sort of talk I have never heard, so.. how will you find women? How will you approach them?

I have some methods to run with, that's all I'll say, they will either work or they won't but I'm happy to take the gamble.

[Trenchcoat]

You are indeed inattentive ..

I was referring to your "no plan, and see what turns up"  and your suggesting bars and nightclubs would be your 'methodology '

Dating sites are what NORMAL guys use to line up at least one  lady who may actually be seeking a partner

While I'm lining up dates with women who I may or most likely may not have chemistry with I'm not spending time where I may find girls where I do have natural chemistry. I'm willing to give Krimster's suggestion a go on this one and give the dating sites that most Normal guys use and see if I can do better. I won't hold it against him if I don't, its my decision to try it this way. I'm not going to give into fear and use dating sites though, this three whole day complete trip is about giving it over entirely to another method. So no online geeking for me on this one    

[Nightwish]

I have some methods to run with, that's all I'll say, they will either work or they won't but I'm happy to take the gamble.

[krimster2]

why not do both, and see which one works best...

I'm thinking that for you, the step that is the most difficult,
is from eye contact to first verbal exchange...
am I right??

if so, what you wanna do is go to a "market" on a saturday
and "hussle" girls in the market
look perplexed, ask them about spices, for example
the girls who really don't engage in dialog, just pass them by...
but some will be interested in talking with you
you invite them to lunch....
advise you to start on an empty stomach
hunger will force you towards success
to acquire a lunch partner or starve

if you were my son, this is how I would train you!
coaxing girls in the super market to come to lunch with you
I had a 50% success average, I doubt ANYONE on this board could beat it!!!

[msmob]

While I'm lining up dates with women who I may or most likely may not have chemistry with I'm not spending time where I may find girls where I do have natural chemistry. I'm willing to give Krimster's suggestion a go on this one and give the dating sites that most Normal guys use and see if I can do better. I won't hold it against him if I don't, its my decision to try it this way. I'm not going to give into fear and use dating sites though, this three whole day complete trip is about giving it over entirely to another method. So no online geeking for me on this one

Utter TWADDLE

1/ you ain't confident, like Krmmster

2/ Krimster's experiences that so 'influence' you are from a time a westerner gained a LOT more attention

You're just going to come across as a twat or a perv...

[msmob]

if you were my son, this is how I would train you!
coaxing girls in the super market to come to lunch with you
I had a 50% average, I doubt ANYONE on this board could beat it!!!

Kind of hard to prove / disprove - but I reckon most half good-looking, confident guys could pull easily in the early noughties.. such was the fascination for things different

[krimster2]

back then, I could walk into a room full of Ukrainian women, and the room would go silent...
and I would stare self-consciously at the floor...

I still found it EASY to approach women as late as last year!
and had random 30ish women touch me in conversation and follow me around to "talk" with me...
I had to stop receiving ALL the female attention so as to not get my wife annoyed at me...
several times some of the women got really "carried away" and they were going to fight over me
I'm not BSing you...
it was Amazing!!!
these are women at their SEXUAL PEAK and they're just begging me...
but I had to turn it ALL down...

[Trenchcoat]

why not do both, and see which one works best...

I'm thinking that for you, the step that is the most difficult,
is from eye contact to first verbal exchange...
am I right??

if so, what you wanna do is go to a "market" on a saturday
and "hussle" girls in the market
look perplexed, ask them about spices, for example
the girls who really don't engage in dialog, just pass them by...
but some will be interested in talking with you
you invite them to lunch....
advise you to start on an empty stomach
hunger will force you towards success
to acquire a lunch partner or starve

if you were my son, this is how I would train you!
coaxing girls in the super market to come to lunch with you
I had a 50% success average, I doubt ANYONE on this board could beat it!!!

Thanks Krimster, that gives me another option to go with. I think for this journey I'll play it solely on the ground. I can always go again and mix the ground option as a back up/spare moment thing. I think if I were to mix it this time I wouldn't really give the ground option a good go.

[ML]

if so, what you wanna do is go to a "market" on a saturday
and "hussle" girls in the market
but some will be interested in talking with you
you invite them to lunch....

So what will they do with perishables while lunching with you ??

[krimster2]

"So what will they do with perishables while lunching with you ??"


usually, you ask someone you bought something from to keep it their cold storage until you return and you slip them an extra 10...

[Trenchcoat]

Utter TWADDLE

1/ you ain't confident, like Krmmster

2/ Krimster's experiences that so 'influence' you are from a time a westerner gained a LOT more attention

You're just going to come across as a twat or a perv...

Nothing wrong with being a perv Mobe, it's an art form in itself

[msmob]

Indeed, that you would consider that a ' humourous riposte' says it all.....

You will spend a lot of time thinking why isn't this working out for you....when the answer was close at hand

[Davo]

Trench, I have some advice, straight from the horses mouth......

“You know a man should be a conqueror. You came, saw and won”

[John Gaunt]

Indeed, that you would consider that a ' humourous riposte' says it all.....

You will spend a lot of time thinking why isn't this working out for you....when the answer was close at hand

I think the answer will be his hand as he won’t be pulling anytime soon.

[SteveInBoston]

TC,

Are you going to Kyiv or has this fizzled out?

I just booked an extended weekend flight for June.  Fly in on Thursday from Boston, fly back on Monday.

Let me know if you're actually going.  I might take a swing by Shevchenko park.