The Struggle For Ukraine

[Jumper1]

My mil's building was hit today.
She and SIL.are ok.
Some other residents ok, some  injured.

Complete residential area, no military equipment or troops anywhere near.
This was in Nikolaev

[Boethius]

Glad they are ok, Jumper.

[krimster2]

Jumper, when Pootin transfers his troops, they're going to be on the front line
they should GTF out ASAP, do they have some place to go?

[rwd123]

Rational analysis.

http://youtu.be/SN7o-ThhFfY

[Boethius]

Sorry, I won’t give any time to someone convicted of unlawful contact with a minor. It says something about character.  It’s probably why he’s reduced to shilling for Russia.

[rwd123]

Sorry, I won’t give any time to someone convicted of unlawful contact with a minor. It says something about character.  It’s probably why he’s reduced to shilling for Russia.

Ignorance is bliss.

The facts on the ground are facts. The markets have stated Russia is on the path to "winning" this conflict and Modi has also stated this in his actions (as have the Saudis). This is clinical analysis from a domain expert.

I'm sure this video is fake too: http://youtu.be/rLZ2ZzoD-W0

[Jumper1]

Rational analysis.

http://youtu.be/SN7o-ThhFfY

He has some good points.
He also starts off with taking putins position that donbas is independent republics with no regard for Ukrainians living there whether pro.russian or pro Ukrainian .

Thats seems an odd foot to start off on.

As far as others analysis ,its jist that.

Most of them were saying russia wouldnt invade.
They are about as accurate as weathermen

[Jumper1]

Jumper, when Pootin transfers his troops, they're going to be on the front line
they should GTF out ASAP, do they have some place to go?

Ive told them.that since day one.
They dont have a place to go out of Ukraine
 nor do they want to,  nor are they willing to.leave unless its all.ruble.
They are also terrified to.leave as reports of what happens on.the outskirts of the city travel.fast .
They could go to the relatives in a village in central Ukraine north west of kirov rog if they could get transportation,but I highly doubt they would even.if it was available.

[Boethius]

More bad news for Russia

http://tinyurl.com/2upuzbz9

[Chelseaboy]

Ignorance is bliss.

The facts on the ground are facts. The markets have stated Russia is on the path to "winning" this conflict and Modi has also stated this in his actions (as have the Saudis). This is clinical analysis from a domain expert.

I'm sure this video is fake too: http://youtu.be/rLZ2ZzoD-W0

I watched the video.


Interesting comment at 2:35 where a "resident" of Mariupol says "If OUR Russian Tanks come up they will smash them "


Whoops.


Seriously,can't you do better than this. ?


Clearly Russian stooges spreading false propaganda..just like you do.


Instead of watching tripe like this ,you'd be better off watching the main news networks...where you'd have seen a  bloke in his forties in Bucha telling how two Chechens from the Russian Military raped a young woman and then dismembered her,and how he and other local blokes found those Chechens and beat them to death,showing the state of his knuckles.


Or how about the elderly lady in Bucha who said Russian troops knocked on her next door neighbours door ,a bloke in his fifties,and asked him for documentation.As he turned to go and get it he was shot in the back of the head.


By the way how's that prediction from you that the War would be over in days working out for you ?


We're now at 5 weeks and 5 days and counting.

[Chelseaboy]

The Freedom of Russia Legion seems to be gaining numbers..it's now forming a Battalion.


For those who don't know these are surrendered or captured Russian's who now wish to fight for Ukraine.


They are currently in training to get up to Ukrainian standard of fighting and weapon use.


Interestingly they still keep their White armbands,but cover it with a Blue one.

[Boethius]

This is from a reddit user who does daily roundups of events in Ukraine.

http://tinyurl.com/4h7kyp45

[Boethius]

This is why rwd is mistaken. Russia may achieve military “victory”, if they throw everything at Ukraine. But they won’t be able to maintain it, as they have already alienated populations everywhere they have been on Ukrainian lands.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russian-soldiers-beat-torture-ukrainian-villagers/

[Chelseaboy]

Where would the Ukrainian insurgents live ?


In the fields ?



Where would they store weapons ?


I suspect Putin wants to level all the cities..Mariupol is first then Kharkiv,then level them all one by one,


He wants all the Ukrainians either dead or as refugees...and he'll use the land for farming to feed his growing military in which he can put the farm-workers in Caravans on low incomes.


Meanwhile the west will stand by and wring their hands,expel Russian diplomats and issue sanctions that don't deter him...until Putin turns his attention to them.


If Putin isn't stopped in Ukraine,who have the biggest Army in Europe after Russia..then where ?


There's a reason why he's constantly testing the UK's Air Defences with his Bombers flying close to our Airspace..

[BC]

Chelseaboy,

The west preemptively releasing what would normally be classified information to the public is a splendid tactic that works well against the RU disinformation machine.  Foretelling Putin's moves have consolidated western nations who are acting in lockstep. This nullified the power of his divide and conquer routine.

At this point, military escalation is what Putin desires.  He is trying to provoke the West.  Nothing will mobilize propagandized RU citizens more than an overt NATO intervention in what has been declared part of Russia.  Supporting Ukraine to defend itself does not allow him the satisfaction of being 'right' about NATO wanting to harm Russia, whittling away the rationale he puts forth to justify this war he alone instigated.
   

[Boethius]

An analysis of the invasion and why it has not been successful to date.

http://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1511528319656755205.html

[Faux Pas]

It might be helpful to know more of the players involved

http://mouqawamahmusic.net/illegitimate-jewish-regimes-secret-plan-for-a-2nd-zionist-entity-in-ukraine/

[John Gaunt]

It might be helpful to know more of the players involved

http://mouqawamahmusic.net/illegitimate-jewish-regimes-secret-plan-for-a-2nd-zionist-entity-in-ukraine/

Unbelievable that people actually believe such layers of speculation and utter bollocks being peddled as pseudo scientific truth.

[Boethius]

DNA tests have debunked the “Jews are descendants of the Khazars” theory.

[krimster2]

so Jew haters claim that:

Jews control the media
Jews control big finance
Jews are involved in vaccines
and now...
Jews control Ukraine...

this makes me feel proud of my ancestry
if you hear of any more "success stories" about Jews please post them!

[Nightwish]

Mariupol City Council: Russia uses mobile crematoriums to erase evidence of its war crimes.

According to the council, Russia’s special brigades collect and burn the bodies of murdered residents. Tens of thousands of civilians may have been killed in Mariupol, it added.
“The scale of the tragedy in Mariupol the world has not seen since the times of Nazi concentration camps,” mayor Vadym Boychenko said. Russians, he added, “turned our whole city into a death camp.”

[krimster2]

Gozpedy,
I warned Russians about this, but even the ones who pay me, don’t wanna listen, cuz then they’d have to “do something” and Russians are really, really bad at this game when it comes to the “doin”

shto te gavorite?

Well moy druzya, one of the biggest drug markets in the Moscva oblast was just seized  by “unfriendly forces”

http://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/05/darknet-hydra-market-site-seized-and-shut-down-doj-says.html

no longer will there be russki dopers wandering around Gorky at night in the light of their cell phone screens, lookin for their drop location, like a nighttime easter egg hunt

I showed Russians how to have a decentralized system, where the SERVERS run on cell phones
buy NYET!!! they didn’t wanna change things….

Yalky Palky

so glad I’m outta there and retired from "the bizness"

if USA would allow "privateers" and let us keep the loot, I'd totally swich sides
and I know how to do REAL DAMAGE there
but no, they're against this idea...
so I'm neutral, like Israel...
American offensive cyber security operations are conducted by young amateurs
with very little knowledge of enemy territory and next level "tricks of the trade"
they're OK on low level penetration testing, etc, but they need a teacher for the top level

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/780th_Military_Intelligence_Brigade_(United_States)
on top of that, they're riddled with moles
Snowden and his girlfriend lived close by and were just two of many who live and work there
2nd biggest mole habitat is silicon valley

 

[Boethius]

I'm going to go back a minute to the "Jews want to take over Ukraine" meme.

In the first independent Ukrainian republic (Ukrainian People's Republic, 1917-1920), Yiddish was declared a state language, together with Ukrainian and Russian.  It appeared on the country's currency.  Jews were the largest ethnic minority in Ukraine, due to the "Pale of Settlement".  Zionism and Hasidism both originated in Ukraine.  Part of the reason why Jews now flock to Uman is because the rabbi who "founded" Hasidism is buried there.  Jews were also over 1/3 of the population of Odesa until WWII.

Kolomoyski has funded a huge synagogue in Dnipropetrovsk, and there has been some conflict around the prominence of the Jewish community there.  But, I don't really see much of an issue even if FP's article is true (i.e., Jews want to take over Crimea, but yes, I know the subtext of that article is "Dumb Ukrainians are fighting for the Jews"). 

[krimster2]

BO, projouste...
go look at the source...
this is the typical anti-semitism of the last century or so
NOTHING new here
just an off-shoot of the protocols
written by an islamic/russian supporter
being pushed by a trump voter
this is not worthy of debate
because NONE of it is factual

the only thing Jews want from Ukraine, is to freaking leave it, and most have

[Patagonie]

Mariupol City Council: Russia uses mobile crematoriums to erase evidence of its war crimes.

According to the council, Russia’s special brigades collect and burn the bodies of murdered residents. Tens of thousands of civilians may have been killed in Mariupol, it added.
“The scale of the tragedy in Mariupol the world has not seen since the times of Nazi concentration camps,” mayor Vadym Boychenko said. Russians, he added, “turned our whole city into a death camp.”

So it could be true that displaced populations are now easy to move from Mariupol (in ashes), sorry for my dark humor, but unfortunately, it's possible that they have burnt, or they will burn all corpses in the future, since the Butcha case.