"Russian girls abandon their nation in need" (?)

[prince_alfie]

Indeed, but one needs to keep in mind that Turkey's Muslim ideas are different than say, a more fundamentalistic type of Islam in Iran or Pakistan. Most of the women don't wear the veil and in fact, the fez and veil are pretty much banned under Turkish law.

[Bruno]

Indeed, but one needs to keep in mind that Turkey's Muslim ideas are different than say, a more fundamentalistic type of Islam in Iran or Pakistan. Most of the women don't wear the veil and in fact, the fez and veil are pretty much banned under Turkish law.

Muslim in Turkey are the almost perfect example of moderm Muslim... Yes, women don't wear the veil ( except some very old women ) and wear the mini-skirt... on the beach, mono-kini or fully naked is not rare...

[BC]

Bruno,

As far as the major cities go and tourist areas you are quite right.  As you go into the smaller rural towns and villages this changes quite a bit tending more towards traditional dress.  I've been right up to the Syrian border and it's a world apart from Istanbul.  Modern dress is tolerated even in the 'boonies' but I don't know if I would walk around nude.. especially if not circumcised.. they are experts there.

hmm.. just a thought but maybe circumcision plays a small role when it comes to preferences?

 

[prince_alfie]

Well, it would be nearly impossible to find me naked in public. It's not my style. Plus there isn't any advantages for me in any dept. there 

[beattledog]

Yes,  I have found that they are all different kinds of Muslin's. I had always thought that most of them were like the Muslin's of Iraq, Iran, etc.  I was wrong, but not about the fanatics.

beattledog

[prince_alfie]

And the worst thing is that the nutcases always have good PR so they get more attention.

It was like the crazy militia guys back in the 1990's I remember as a kid. Timmy McVeigh, Nichols, and the crazy kids stuck in the Montana forest.

Fanatics are everywhere. They want attention for their ideas so they get it by doing something extreme. Quite pitiful.

[Son of Clyde]

Sorry to change the subject but what happened to all the churches during communism? They were just left standing for their beauty? I have heard that religion was frowned upon during the cold war era.

[Wild Orchid*]

some of them were destroyed some turned into storages, some were and are churches

[Son of Clyde]

Thank you, it is a pity that these beautiful churches were mostly dormant for many years. I am very thankful they were left standing because there is so much beauty to be seen.

[beattledog]

Perhaps, these churches will start to be used again.

Beattledog

[prince_alfie]

Indeed, I think that religion is a growing phenom in Russia and other republics. With glasnost in full effect. It will be tough to shake off the secularism however. I wonder how the religion will differ from the days of the tsar...

[55North]

The churches of Kyiv, with a little history.

http://www.on-the-matrix.com/europe/ukr_kiev_churches.asp

[Elen]

Indeed, I think that religion is a growing phenom in Russia and other republics. With glasnost in full effect. It will be tough to shake off the secularism however. I wonder how the religion will differ from the days of the tsar...

phenomen yeah    indeed. Religion returnes - and morality droppes 

[Wild Orchid*]

Perhaps, these churches will start to be used again.

Beattledog

What do you mean by will start? What could be saved was under restoration ages ago. We had very nice cathedral  in the center of city which was abandoned for years, then they decided to make a music hall out of it and place organ in it, but with the change of times it became cathedral again. It happened almost 20 years ago and it was quite common at that time..

[PeeWee]

What do you mean by will start? What could be saved was under restoration ages ago. We had very nice cathedral  in the center of city which was abandoned for years, then they decided to make a music hall out of it and place organ in it, but with the change of times it became cathedral again. It happened almost 20 years ago and it was quite common at that time..

Not more than two hours ago I watched a program on The History Channel. Something about religion, and the believe in a heaven and a hell. The stat that they threw out was that there are over 1 billion people today who do not claim to have a religion, practice one, or have a religious belief. The majority of those 1 billion are now living in either the FSU and China.

Peevee

[55North]

The majority of those 1 billion are now living in either the FSU and China.

.........and approaching 50% of the UK and Western Europe.  2 things that separate the UK and US (apart from population, dentistry and a common language) are the love of God (or otherwise) and social democracy.

[PeeWee]

.........and approaching 50% of the UK and Western Europe.  2 things that separate the UK and US (apart from population, dentistry and a common language) are the love of God (or otherwise) and social democracy.

Off topic but I spotted that arch that is depicted in your avitar when one of my flights was on approach into Heathrow the other day? What is that? It seemed that it was located near to a stadium of some sort.

Peevee

[55North]

Approach to Heathrow??? It's 300 miles away!

http://www.gateshead.gov.uk/Leisure%20and%20Culture/bridge/Background.aspx

In the year of it's construction, it won the UK's premier architecture prize. (and I've just found a new avitar).

Stadium to the North, the home of one of England's greatest soccer (to you) clubs....

http://www.stadiumguide.com/saintjamespark.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_United_F.C.

Stadium to the South..athletics, home of a number of national and world records over the years.  Take a vitual tour....

http://online.gateshead.gov.uk/virtualtours/gis_java.aspx
 
Enjoy.

[Manny]

Who let a geordie in? 

But I did once have a very foxy girlfriend from West Denton! - but the drive from Manchester was a killer!

[55North]

Read my reply to you on another thread.
 
Me a Geordie?  Born Kingston-upon-Thames,  raised London and Somerset.  Lived/worked in Wiltshire/Southampton/Denmark/Spain/Cumbria before moving to Newcastle aged 29.  That makes me........confused!

[55North]

Manchester, please tell me you're a Man U fan.  It will easier to dislike you.

[PeeWee]

Approach to Heathrow??? It's 300 miles away!

http://www.gateshead.gov.uk/Leisure%20and%20Culture/bridge/Background.aspx

In the year of it's construction, it won the UK's premier architecture prize. (and I've just found a new avitar).

Stadium to the North, the home of one of England's greatest soccer (to you) clubs....

http://www.stadiumguide.com/saintjamespark.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_United_F.C.

Stadium to the South..athletics, home of a number of national and world records over the years.  Take a vitual tour....

http://online.gateshead.gov.uk/virtualtours/gis_java.aspx
 
Enjoy.

Hmmm, I suspect that I have good eyes then. I was just about over that ferriswheel which located on the Thames. I looked across the river and spotted an arch, simular to that, about 2 miles distance.

Peevee

[55North]

Was it this PeeWee..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Millennium_Bridge
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2000/millennium_bridge/default.stm
 
(The other 'inferior' Millenium Bridge) 

....or could it have been a conventional bridge.  (The 'arch' was across the river?)

[BC]

Off topic but I spotted that arch that is depicted in your avitar when one of my flights was on approach into Heathrow the other day? What is that? It seemed that it was located near to a stadium of some sort.

Peevee

Peewee,

Didn't you notice that your flight was being diverted to St. Louis?

 

[Manny]

Manchester, please tell me you're a Man U fan.  It will easier to dislike you.

I dont do football! - I prefer women!  (and women prefer men who dont do football)

I didnt follow the link but saw "gateshead" and assumed it was tyne & wear in Geordie Land, thus I assumed that you were a Geordie! (which for the bemused US reader is an inhabitant of Newcastle Upon Tyne and surrounding area)

Now I know what thought did! 

Kenny Everet once said about thought - It tripped over a milk crate and thought it has found a cows nest!