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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1125 on: June 03, 2021, 12:21:35 AM »
My wife is doing the same.
Dentist appointments, seeing another specialist today.
As you said, it’s quite cheap and the private clinics offer a good service.
Healthcare in the UK is pretty bad as well. Long waiting times and depending where you live the level of care varies.
It may be ‘free’ at the point of use but doesn't necessarily mean it’s better.

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Re: Ukrainian gals go to Ukraine for medical care
« Reply #1126 on: June 03, 2021, 02:49:56 AM »
Wife has gone to 5 medical appointments in her 10 days or so in Ukraine.

My wife is doing the same.
Dentist appointments, seeing another specialist today.

Make that three of us.  My wife and daughter will be doing the same in a few weeks.




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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1127 on: June 03, 2021, 11:03:01 AM »
Further, he told that physicians in these private clinics were seeing an uptick in non-Ukrainian persons coming from Western European countries for medical treatment.

They cited some of same reasons I gave above for case of my wife . . . and one additional . . . they didn't think the care they were getting at the socialized medicine facilities was very good.


Most physicians in Ukraine who provide private care also work in state facilities.


Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable seeking medical treatment in Ukraine.  Medical education there varies, and is not always of good quality.  Moreover, the problem of fake diplomas still exists in Ukraine.  If I had a medical emergency there, I would seek treatment, but I wouldn't go there specifically for medical treatment.


Our medicine is completely "socialized", in that private are options are relatively limited.  General practitioners are the gatekeepers to specialists here.  I haven't had to consult a lot of specialists, but any time I have needed one (opthamologist the most recent), I've had no issue getting an appointment.  I think a lot of FSU individuals, though, would have issues with the number of (Canadian born) South Asian and Asian physicians here. 
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Re: Ukrainian gals go to Ukraine for medical care
« Reply #1128 on: June 03, 2021, 11:19:50 AM »

Most physicians in Ukraine who provide private care also work in state facilities.


Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable seeking medical treatment in Ukraine.  Medical education there varies, and is not always of good quality.  Moreover, the problem of fake diplomas still exists in Ukraine.  If I had a medical emergency there, I would seek treatment, but I wouldn't go there specifically for medical treatment.


Our medicine is completely "socialized", in that private are options are relatively limited.  General practitioners are the gatekeepers to specialists here.  I haven't had to consult a lot of specialists, but any time I have needed on (opthamologist the most recent), I've had no issue getting an appointment.  I think a lot of FSU individuals, though, would have issues with the numbers of South Asian and Asian physicians here.

Yes, I understand what you say about medicine in Ukraine in general.

However, as always, depends on who you know.
In Ochka's case, she has a relative and a 'relative of a relative' in the medical field who steer her to competent folks.

Already she has learned the causes of two issues (from two different specialists) that have been giving her some health problems although, if anything can be done to help there or here is another question.
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« Reply #1129 on: June 18, 2021, 03:04:56 PM »
Just talked to wife and she is going to bed now around midnight in Kyiv.
A short night for her as she will be at Kyiv airport at 5 AM.
She took Covid test yesterday at 3 PM and got negative results today.
I had some panic as her results referred to SARS-CoV-2 when I knew she needed results for Covid 19.
A google search revealed that Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, shortened to SARS-CoV-2, is actually the virus that causes COVID-19 (the disease).
Then email from Lufthansa wanted her to submit Covid test result 12 hours before flight.
I got that uploaded for her, and then message came back from Lufthansa saying she must submit German DEA form.
So I went to that website and filled in her info; then pop-up said she didn't need to submit because Ukraine was not a risk area.
Thus two different Lufthansa websites are in disagreement.

Anyway, we will have some anxiety about all of this until she is actually able to board her flight in Kyiv and again in Frankfurt.

The moslem terrorists really messed up our travel system starting back in 2001 and now Covid has added to the problems of traveling.
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Re: Wife departing Ukraine in this Covid era
« Reply #1130 on: June 19, 2021, 04:45:07 AM »
Just talked to wife and she is going to bed now around midnight in Kyiv.
A short night for her as she will be at Kyiv airport at 5 AM.
She took Covid test yesterday at 3 PM and got negative results today.
I had some panic as her results referred to SARS-CoV-2 when I knew she needed results for Covid 19.
A google search revealed that Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, shortened to SARS-CoV-2, is actually the virus that causes COVID-19 (the disease).
Then email from Lufthansa wanted her to submit Covid test result 12 hours before flight.
I got that uploaded for her, and then message came back from Lufthansa saying she must submit German DEA form.
So I went to that website and filled in her info; then pop-up said she didn't need to submit because Ukraine was not a risk area.
Thus two different Lufthansa websites are in disagreement.

Anyway, we will have some anxiety about all of this until she is actually able to board her flight in Kyiv and again in Frankfurt.

The moslem terrorists really messed up our travel system starting back in 2001 and now Covid has added to the problems of traveling.

Thanks for the info.  My wife will be flying back in 2 weeks on Lufthansa via Frankfurt.  I had seen earlier that Germany requires the PCR test within 48 hours of arrival in Germany. So we are ensuring she takes the test in the correct time window.  If you would not mind posting how the Frankfurt experience goes I would appreciate it.  Did your wife do the PCR test at the airport or locally in Kiev?

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Re: Wife departing Ukraine in this Covid era
« Reply #1131 on: June 19, 2021, 05:15:05 AM »
Thanks for the info.  My wife will be flying back in 2 weeks on Lufthansa via Frankfurt.  I had seen earlier that Germany requires the PCR test within 48 hours of arrival in Germany. So we are ensuring she takes the test in the correct time window.  If you would not mind posting how the Frankfurt experience goes I would appreciate it.  Did your wife do the PCR test at the airport or locally in Kiev?

Wife and I are in Ukraine as we speak.  We will be flying home to Texas on Tuesday.  Lviv to Frankfurt to Houston.  As of today the United web site says that we don’t need any tests or vaccines for transiting Frankfurt since we are going to a non Schengen country (the U.S.). We are both vaccinated anyway and will be getting the PCR test to make Joe Biden happy in Kviv.  If my old mind can remember I will post our Frankfurt experience after we get home. 

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1132 on: June 19, 2021, 06:45:41 AM »
She got test somewhere in Kyiv city, not at airport.
I'll post more info once she arrives here at our home.
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1133 on: June 19, 2021, 01:37:22 PM »
She got test somewhere in Kyiv city, not at airport.
I'll post more info once she arrives here at our home.

Thanks in advance for the information.

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Re: Wife departing Ukraine in this Covid era
« Reply #1134 on: June 19, 2021, 01:38:23 PM »
Wife and I are in Ukraine as we speak.  We will be flying home to Texas on Tuesday.  Lviv to Frankfurt to Houston.  As of today the United web site says that we don’t need any tests or vaccines for transiting Frankfurt since we are going to a non Schengen country (the U.S.). We are both vaccinated anyway and will be getting the PCR test to make Joe Biden happy in Kviv.  If my old mind can remember I will post our Frankfurt experience after we get home.

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« Reply #1135 on: June 20, 2021, 06:34:50 PM »
Wife got her PCR Covid test at Synevo in Kyiv.
The particular location was at Prospect Peremohy 80/57.
This is near the Beresteiska Metro station.
Probably other locations also in Kyiv.
Cost was 950 Hryvnia or about $35.
She was swabbed at 3 PM and result came via email at 12:15 AM so about 9 hours.
She liked their facility as it was very professional and very clean.
Website:  http://www.synevo.ua/en

Their write-up:

Synevo is the European chain of medical laboratories in Ukraine
The chain of medical laboratories Synevo is a part of the medical holding Medicover and consists of 41 laboratories in Eastern and Central Europe. Established in 1995 in response to the growing demand for high-quality healthcare services in Poland, Medicover subsequently expanded to other countries, fulfilling similar needs. Today, Medicover’s largest operations are in Poland, Germany, Romania and Ukraine. Medicover provides a broad spectrum of healthcare services via an extensive network of ambulatory clinics, hospitals, specialty-care facilities and laboratories through two divisions – Healthcare Services and Diagnostic Services.
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« Reply #1136 on: June 20, 2021, 06:39:11 PM »
Wife had to show Negative PCR Covid test result (in English) about 3 times when going through boarding process at Kyiv airport.

The she had to show it about 3 times when changing planes in Frankfurt.

And show it about 3 times when going through Immigration and Passport control after landing in USA.
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Re: Presenting Covid test results at airports
« Reply #1137 on: June 20, 2021, 10:57:02 PM »
Wife had to show Negative PCR Covid test result (in English) about 3 times when going through boarding process at Kyiv airport.

The she had to show it about 3 times when changing planes in Frankfurt.

And show it about 3 times when going through Immigration and Passport control after landing in USA.

Trying to figure out what’s the point of showing it after you get to the U.S.?  What they going to do, send you back to where you came from? 

What state did she enter the U.S., NY?

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1138 on: June 21, 2021, 01:46:44 PM »
ML,

Thank you for all the info. One more question, they provided the PCR results in English as well as Ukrainian?
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« Reply #1139 on: June 21, 2021, 02:15:40 PM »
ML,

Thank you for all the info. One more question, they provided the PCR results in English as well as Ukrainian?

They will provide in the language you want . . . provided they have that capability.
English and Ukrainian certainly on the list.
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« Reply #1140 on: June 23, 2021, 11:40:16 AM »
Deaths come in three's or some such !!

I have suffered the death of two close relatives recently.  One of a stroke and one from Covid.

Then, just yesterday, got news about a former friend who had been beaten severely and then shot 4 times.  This happened about a week ago, and no suspects at this point.

I say 'former' because I hadn't had any contact with him for over 20 years as we both relocated away from the area where we had gone to university together and were also fairly close business acquaintances for a couple of years.

I suffer more emotionally from the loss of relatives . . . but am shocked more about this murder.
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Explanation for high housing prices and cost of construction
« Reply #1141 on: July 01, 2021, 09:03:17 AM »
In the Rant thread which covers several topics, I mentioned government interference as a reason why supply side can be 'out-of-whack'!

That appears to be the case with respect to housing prices.
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As if homebuyers, contractors, and do-it-yourselfers don’t have enough to think about in this summer’s hard-to-read economy, the price of framing lumber has skyrocketed from $600 per thousand board feet to more than $1,400 in the last six months. Higher-cost lumber has added an estimated $36,000 to the average price of a new home. Some may wonder about President Donald Trump’s 2017 decision to impose 20 percent tariffs on Canadian timber products, and we should all question Biden administration threats to reimpose them.

Though softened to 9 percent in the early days of the new administration, the tariffs caused U.S. consumers to bear the brunt of a misguided effort that, oddly enough, put substantial sums in the pockets of Canadian-owned U.S. lumber producers, as well as their U.S.-owned competitors. How all this could make America great again is difficult to imagine.

The Trump decision was extraordinary at the time because it imposed higher tariffs on the products of specific Canadian firms that exported to the United States (while also more typically laying an overall tariff on all producers). U.S. interests favoring the tariffs, which were primarily American-operated Pacific Northwest mills, pointed to Canadian government subsidies which they claimed unfairly assisted Canadian firms to obtain logs from government-owned forest land.

Those who were opposed to the tariffs, like American homebuilders, argued that the subsidy allegation was hard to prove, and that higher tariffs would surely impose high costs on American consumers.

All of this was in conjunction with failed efforts by trade negotiators to resolve a decades’ long U.S.-Canadian dispute regarding Canada’s tariffs on U.S. dairy products. While the war of words roared away, no one seemed to point to the fact that Canadian-owned U.S. lumber mills would be counted among the big winners in the Make America Great Again trade skirmish. But that’s exactly what happened.

When the COVID pandemic hit and trillions of dollars of federal stimulus funds began making their way into the bank of accounts of hard-hit (and not-so-hard-hit) American consumers, the options for spending money were rather limited. With millions working at home for the first time ever, countless families decided this would be a good time to add a deck, another room, or move up to a new home. Demand for building materials shot skyward as did prices for lumber, steel, and copper.

Meanwhile, domestic lumber producers — whether U.S. or Canadian owned — banked substantial profits. In a survey of the top 10 U.S.-based 2020 lumber producers, three were Canadian owned, and their combined volume accounted for more than 30 percent of the total Big 10 production.

Is there a lesson to be learned here? Most people understand that tariffs leave some winners and some losers. A somewhat-smaller group, which includes most economists who study such things, recognizes that tariffs impose far greater costs on all consumers combined than benefits provided to the interests they protect. This is nothing new. It has been known and commented on for ages. It’s also no secret that politicians respond to organized interests. Consumers — in this case our homebuyers and deck builders — are not especially well-organized.

But there is a harder lesson to heed: No group of Washington’s brightest and best can have enough knowledge to predict what will actually happen — who will benefit and who will pay — when major policy interventions occur. Try as we might, we just can’t get it right. But we can perhaps learn to accept what we don’t know and be more cautious before pulling a tariff trigger.

Even now, the Biden administration is attempting once again to settle the Canadian-U.S. timber controversy, and along with it the dairy products trade problem. And even now, the U.S. trade negotiator is calling for a return to Trump-level lumber tariffs, up from the recently reduced 9 percent level, perhaps as part of a negotiating strategy.

Meanwhile, Canadian owners of U.S. lumber producers smile all the way to the bank.
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1142 on: July 01, 2021, 09:33:04 AM »
I had actually touched on this two weeks ago re: lumber - albeit from a different perspective.


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Explanation for high housing prices and cost of construction
« Reply #1143 on: July 01, 2021, 09:43:50 AM »
I had actually touched on this two weeks ago re: lumber - albeit from a different perspective.


http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=21622.msg556787;topicseen#msg556787

Yes, your discussion covered price increases due to shutting down of lumber production.

My referenced article focused on price increases due to tariffs.

So a double whammy on prices . . . ouch.
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1144 on: July 02, 2021, 12:40:49 PM »
Canada will never concede on dairy tariffs, because they benefit, primarily, Quebec farmers.  It's not really much of an issue elsewhere in the country.  There was an attempt to cut some of those tariffs in the past, which was a political firestorm.


Dairy products in Canada are hormone free, but very expensive.  A liter of milk costs $2.20.  A pound of butter is close to $5 ($4.39 at Costco).  Good butter (flavour wise) is over $7 a pound, and is still not as good as Irish butters, which are locked out of our market.  The only things I think are really good here are yogurts and Quebec produced cheeses.
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« Reply #1145 on: July 05, 2021, 11:40:37 AM »
Canada will never concede on dairy tariffs, because they benefit, primarily, Quebec farmers.  It's not really much of an issue elsewhere in the country.  There was an attempt to cut some of those tariffs in the past, which was a political firestorm.


Dairy products in Canada are hormone free, but very expensive.  A liter of milk costs $2.20.  A pound of butter is close to $5 ($4.39 at Costco).  Good butter (flavour wise) is over $7 a pound, and is still not as good as Irish butters, which are locked out of our market.  The only things I think are really good here are yogurts and Quebec produced cheeses.

Wife has been back from Ukraine a couple of weeks now.  I reported the above to  her.

Then she remarked how food here in USA is actually cheaper than in Kyiv.
She mentioned specifically basics like eggs and milk.

Out west of Kyiv where her parents live . . . they have several chickens, so plenty of eggs which they trade some for milk from a neighbor who has a cow.
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« Reply #1146 on: July 05, 2021, 11:53:46 AM »
We had our Ukrainian group over for 4th of July evening BBQ.
Three couples are Ukrainian on both sides.
Three couples have Ukrainian woman with western man.
Two younger male university students.
One female university student in late 30s with a teenage son (no one knows nor have asked status of or whereabouts of his father).
She has just finished PhD and taken a teaching job in Midwest USA.

As unexpected bonus, two of our neighbor families set off quite lengthy fireworks displays which we could see most of through the trees while on our back deck.
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« Reply #1147 on: July 29, 2021, 03:53:51 PM »
Despite the ravages of Covid and the country being invaded . . .

Ukraine finished 6th in the world in the 2021 Mathematical Olympiad.

China
Russian Federation
South Korea
USA
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Ukraine

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« Reply #1149 on: August 31, 2021, 07:43:42 AM »
Ukraine is in 4-5th place (varies each day) in medals at para-Olympics in Japan.

Wife is amazed since Ukraine has not done much for people with disabilities compared to, say, USA.

She is wondering if Ukraine government will pay nice rewards to the people winning medals here as they did in the standard Olympics.
$100,000 to gold medalists, $75,000 for silver and $50,000 for bronze.

Now we will see how much interest and comments on this posting that actually involves FSU people as compared to the number of posting on Afghanistan, Vaccine arguments, USA politics, etc.
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