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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #300 on: October 18, 2021, 01:00:51 PM »
RIP - fully vaccinated Colin Powell died at 84 of COVID complications...May he rest in peace. And may they stop calling these cases 'breakthrough cases' because they never were. Suppressed information doesn't mean they are not prevalent.

Apparently he had underlying health conditions, some sort of cancer that may have made him susceptible even though he was double vaccinated. Goes to show if this virus persists it will likely mean that many of us won't live as long into old age. Does give reason to ponder whether it was a conspiracy to cut down on the population of the planet particularly the old that can be seen as a burden to society by some, not me but in terms of bed filling but hanging on for years where back in the day they would not have so done.

More importantly I never really understood why they kept pronouncing Colin Powell as Co - lin, rather than Col - in. Surely a pronounciation error, I've only ever heard Colin pronounced Col - in before that.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #301 on: October 18, 2021, 03:38:15 PM »
More importantly I never really understood why they kept pronouncing Colin Powell as Co - lin, rather than Col - in. Surely a pronunciation error, I've only ever heard Colin pronounced Col - in before that.

Because that is the pronunciation that Colin wanted.
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« Reply #302 on: October 18, 2021, 04:55:30 PM »
Because that is the pronunciation that Colin wanted.

Pretty sure Col - in was the only proper way to pronounce Colin.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #303 on: October 18, 2021, 06:02:44 PM »
USA being a relatively free country . . . people are allowed to pronounce their name the way they want to, and insist that others pronounce it the same.

Co-lin Powell wanted it that way.

Others are silly though.  Footballer Brett Favre insisted on pronouncing his last name Farve.
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« Reply #304 on: October 19, 2021, 05:28:43 AM »
USA being a relatively free country . . . people are allowed to pronounce their name the way they want to, and insist that others pronounce it the same.

Co-lin Powell wanted it that way.

Others are silly though.  Footballer Brett Favre insisted on pronouncing his last name Farve.

Seems that they want to sound all a bit posher lol.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #305 on: October 19, 2021, 08:40:49 AM »
Seems that they want to sound all a bit posher lol.

Nothing posh about Co-lin, since that's where poop passes through.
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« Reply #306 on: October 20, 2021, 11:19:09 PM »
Nothing posh about Co-lin, since that's where poop passes through.

Lol that's a good funny one ML :ROFL:
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #307 on: October 20, 2021, 11:22:41 PM »
So virus infections and deaths up in both the UK and Ukraine. In Ukraine deaths have gone through the roof, over 500 for yesterday, so really quite shocking for a fairly small population:

http://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/world/europe/ukraine-covid-deaths.html
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #308 on: October 21, 2021, 01:50:02 AM »

First vaccination in the US 14 December. 299,193 deaths prior. Yesterday 692,356 = 393,163 deaths since 14 December or 1191 per million.
First vaccination in Italy 27 December, but let's take 14 December for parity. 65,011 deaths prior. Yesterday 130,310=65,299 deaths since 14 December, or 1088 per million.

Now 103 per million difference might not sound like much, only 10%, but that number is growing rapidly with the much higher rate of daily deaths in the US, and theoretically represents over 6000 lives.  Let's check back on the numbers in a couple of weeks, or a month, and see what the numbers show.  Although not exact, with a head start for the US, we can see what happens in relative terms.

Basis, 60 million Italians, 330 million Americans.
Italy counts from http://github.com/pcm-dpc/COVID-19/tree/master/schede-riepilogative/regioni
US counts from http://www.patientcareonline.com/view/covid-19-update-us-and-global-cases-deaths-and-recoveries-as-of-december-14-2020



Above, my post from 20 September, a month ago.

Current figures from yesterday:

First vaccination in the US 14 December. 299,193 deaths prior. Yesterday 751,811 = 452,618 deaths since 14 December or 1372 per million.
First vaccination in Italy 27 December, but let's take 14 December for parity. 65,011 deaths prior. Yesterday 131,688=66,677 deaths since 14 December, or 1111 per million.

In one month, for the US 1191 deaths per million to 1372, a 261 per million increase.
In one month, for Italy 1088 deaths per million to 1111, a 23 per million increase.

Last month the difference was 103 per million, now that has grown to 238 per million in one month alone, and is still on the rise, representing a difference of 44,550 US lives during the same month period using population-adjusted figures.

Obviously, there is a great disparity in the post-vaccination period.

Is this difference due to vaccination percentages?


http://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker


http://lab24.ilsole24ore.com/numeri-vaccini-italia-mondo/

Is it due to vaccination mandates?

Is it due to mask mandates?

Is it due to green pass requirements?

Is it due to differences in the general health of the population as some have suggested?

Is it a combination of the above?

Guess it's best to decide for yourselves, but don't ignore the rapidly growing differences.





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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #309 on: October 21, 2021, 12:16:39 PM »
Apparently there queuing now in Kiev for the vaccine:

http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-new-daily-coronavirus-cases-deaths-hit-record-2021-10-21/

Looks like the recent sharp increase in infections and deaths is now causing a bit of a panic out there.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #310 on: October 23, 2021, 01:56:45 AM »
640 deaths in Ukraine today and over 24,000 infections today for yesterday's figures. The scale of the virus problem is going up rapidly out there and who knows where it will all end.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #311 on: October 23, 2021, 04:55:34 AM »
640 deaths in Ukraine today and over 24,000 infections today for yesterday's figures. The scale of the virus problem is going up rapidly out there and who knows where it will all end.

Trench as with most topics you're just too thick to "get it". Where are the bodies? How does the actual deaths in Ukraine or anywhere else compare to a year ago or 3  years ago. Everywhere there is jab hesitation in the population, deaths and new infections magically rise to astronomical numbers. You as well as much of the population has been gaslighted by the mainstream media to a complete slumber. Clue; There is a plan and they are lying to you. You eat it up like a duck on a Junebug never questioning anything fed to you by the media yet, you question everything about FSUW including breath and odor of flatulence. You really should attempt to use your head for something other than holding your hat and masturbation material

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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #312 on: October 23, 2021, 05:38:07 AM »
Trench as with most topics you're just too thick to "get it". Where are the bodies? How does the actual deaths in Ukraine or anywhere else compare to a year ago or 3  years ago. Everywhere there is jab hesitation in the population, deaths and new infections magically rise to astronomical numbers. You as well as much of the population has been gaslighted by the mainstream media to a complete slumber. Clue; There is a plan and they are lying to you. You eat it up like a duck on a Junebug never questioning anything fed to you by the media yet, you question everything about FSUW including breath and odor of flatulence. You really should attempt to use your head for something other than holding your hat and masturbation material

Lol, you Americans with your conspiracy theories, you go crazy on it. You think they are making it up? That there isn't a rising body count? I'm pretty certain they would have been rumbled by now if they were from Nurses and Doctors working in the hospitals to people working in the Morgue to Porters, Cleaners, Ambulance Paramedics and the like. If you  think it is all one great conspiracy why not go down your local hospital or even one in Ukraine and see if it bears out? Go into the Covid wards, Morgue, etc Sure you will likely get arrested, thrown out, irrate looks & words but you will see fir yourself. Of course you will likely get the virus but in your mind it's all a great conspiracy that doesn't exist so no real danger to you is there?

I know of people that have passed away from the virus and also some that have caught the virus and eventually survived. Believe me they are not the sort to bs about anything like that, given the chance they would be more than likely to expose anything like that. The virus is real, governments around the world wouldn't be junking their economies to fight the virus if it wasn't, time to wake up FP.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #313 on: October 23, 2021, 08:02:19 AM »
640 deaths in Ukraine today and over 24,000 infections today for yesterday's figures. The scale of the virus problem is going up rapidly out there and who knows where it will all end.
So what.
The UK is also seeing a rising infection and death rate
Latest figures: 49298 positive cases
Deaths : 180 (+15.8%)
And that’s with a high vaccination rate amongst +12 yr olds.


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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #314 on: October 23, 2021, 02:26:41 PM »
COVID deaths are very high in Ukraine.  I know this from people living there.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #315 on: October 23, 2021, 04:36:09 PM »

COVID deaths are very high in Ukraine.  I know this from people living there.

According to a Stratfor article posted October 21, 2021, the numbers in Ukraine are bad.

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Ukraine: Country Hits New Daily Record for COVID-19 Cases, Deaths

What Happened: Ukraine has hit a new daily record for COVID-19 infections and deaths, with 22,415 new cases reported over the past 24 hours (exceeding the previous high of 20,341 on April 3), along with 546 new deaths (exceeding the previous high of 538 on Oct. 19), Reuters reported Oct. 21, citing health ministry data.

If you register with Stratfor, you can read three articles per month. Then you can click on the prior link to read this article in its entirety. It's short article that mentions that only 15 percent of the population is vaccinated.

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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #316 on: October 25, 2021, 11:05:37 AM »
This Democrat lapdog that he is, Anthony Fauci not only blatantly lied to Congress in multiple occasions, alleging Sen. Rand Paul doesn't know what he's talking about, and most important of all - likely bears responsibility for the millions of people who died in this pandemic the world over. This liberal idiot needs to be thrown in jail, and be subjected to the same heinous experiment he had led upon these animals.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan


Not only that, he is also in front of Congress for this heinous experiments.

http://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/578086-bipartisan-legislators-demand-answers-from-fauci
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #317 on: October 25, 2021, 04:17:59 PM »
COVID deaths are very high in Ukraine.  I know this from people living there.

It's reckoned that it's due to the more transmissible Delta variant that is now hitting there. Odds are it could get even worse when the Delta Plus variant hits which is apparently even more transmissible than the Delta variant. It's not looking good for the poor people of Ukraine unfortunately, looks like they're going to have to ride this one out like India did, assuming India's official virus figures are correct of course. They probably could well be as apparently India has administered 1billion first doses of the vaccine to its 1.38 billion population. That's an incredible vaccination campaign so I guess the difference is at the moment not a lot of Ukrainians are vaccinated.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #318 on: October 30, 2021, 09:21:57 AM »
Authorities in annexed Crimea said they plan to purchase mobile refrigerators to store bodies in the city of Simferopol as Covid-19 deaths continue to rise and the city's morgues are overwhelmed.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/10/29/coronavirus-in-russia-the-latest-news-oct-29-a69117

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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #319 on: October 30, 2021, 09:53:54 AM »
Heard interesting commentary from a retired police chief or retired police commissioner.

Regarding the high number of policemen who are refusing to get vaccinated in some major cities.

He told how, if the same number of police in a city were dying in gun battles as are dying from Covid, the police and their unions would be screaming like hell.

But they are OK with the Covid deaths.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #320 on: October 30, 2021, 05:37:09 PM »
Authorities in annexed Crimea said they plan to purchase mobile refrigerators to store bodies in the city of Simferopol as Covid-19 deaths continue to rise and the city's morgues are overwhelmed.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/10/29/coronavirus-in-russia-the-latest-news-oct-29-a69117

Vaccination rates in Russia(20%) and Ukraine(16%) are very low.

Thanks for the info Grumpy, it looks like Russia and Ukraine are getting themselves into one hell of a state from the virus. Looking like all the objection to having vaccine is finally coming home and the outcome is not a pretty one.

In Ukraine infections are going sky high towards 30,000 plus a day with 6-700 or so deaths for the past few days alone so truely shocking there. Guessing it'll take them a while to get the vaccine around do it's likely to get worse before that happens I'm thinking.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #321 on: October 31, 2021, 04:27:09 AM »
I'm not sure someone from Bulgaria should be telling the UK people what they should be doing regarding Covid-19.


UK Covid-19 deaths per 1 million of population is 2,056.


Bulgaria Covid-19 deaths per 1 million of population is 3,477...a shocking figure which is the third highest in the World.


Maybe you should be directing your advice at the Bulgarian Government.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #322 on: October 31, 2021, 06:12:42 AM »

I personally see not wearing masks inside buildings as a mistake and I think that is coming to light off recent, some people have a real beef over it though or at least they did.

So yes while the infection rate is high and possibly being kept high either by not wearing masks or the new Delta Plus variant or both hospitalisations and deaths are much lower in proportion due to a fast and successful vaccination program. They didn't quite follow up with the younger age groups after the 31st July in my opinion but it's all getting done now.

Ukraine is in the sh*t though in my opinion (possibly Russia also). It will take them weeks to vaccinate at the quickest possibly even months and by that time the virus will have wreaked havoc if not in lives then on the economy due to a prolonged lockdown. I'm not sure what state they are going to be in after it all.
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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #323 on: October 31, 2021, 12:01:16 PM »

So yes while the infection rate is high and possibly being kept high either by not wearing masks or the new Delta Plus variant or both hospitalisations and deaths are much lower in proportion due to a fast and successful vaccination program. They didn't quite follow up with the younger age groups after the 31st July in my opinion but it's all getting done now.

Still, deaths are 4-5 times higher than in Italy using a 7 day average, growing in number rather than declining.

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Re: Vaccines for Travelling Abroad
« Reply #324 on: October 31, 2021, 12:16:25 PM »
Still, deaths are 4-5 times higher than in Italy using a 7 day average, growing in number rather than declining.

Infections are currently on the up in Italy:

http://www.thelocal.it/20211028/italys-covid-infections-almost-double-in-a-week-as-vaccine-rate-falls-again/

It may take a few more weeks for it to really rise high but it could well do, very likely even. Odd are the Delta Plus variant hasn't taken hold in Italy but is doing so just now, with that of course the usual.
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