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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2022, 08:28:21 AM »
Trench,

I picture you as the son of a working class family from a small town the West Midlands…
your family was nearly at the bottom of the British “Pecking Order”
and you were bullied for it as a kid by rich kids

you grew up with out a lot of social contact
and as a result, you tend to daydream a lot

Wow, psychoanalysis a new feature on RWD !

I hope it is free.

I remember quite awhile back a member was able to diagnose illness of another member by his face color in a picture.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2022, 09:06:05 AM »
YES, the Doctor is in!!
in a democratic socialist European country
all health care service is free
including mental health

however, the system is VERY inefficient
so most residents of western countries
will also seek second opinions from the internet

I'm really sorry, but our time appears to be up for today
but I think your're making progress
good luck with the Nitrogen, but would seriously urge you to choose Helium instead, so you can make funny voices!!!
just think about it, OK?



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« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2022, 03:11:50 PM »
Nitrogen has at least two advantages over Helium for ending life.

1. Suppliers often put quite a bit of oxygen in Helium tanks.
2. I can't remember second advantage right now.

Aside from ending life, Nitrogen cannot ever be detected in the corpse.  Handy if you want to avoid a finding of suicide if insurance involved, etc.  Of course someone would have to remove mask and tank before authorities arrived.

Note:  Nitrogen is an entirely painless way to die.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2022, 03:22:52 AM »
Trench,

I picture you as the son of a working class family from a small town the West Midlands…
your family was nearly at the bottom of the British “Pecking Order”
and you were bullied for it as a kid by rich kids

you grew up with out a lot of social contact
and as a result, you tend to daydream a lot

is this you?

Are you a daydream believer Trench, or a man of action?
You have to one or the other, but you have to give over your entire life to it
no playing safe

That's pretty close Krim lol. I wasn't born in the West Midlands but one side of my family was originally from there. I was born in southern England though, not rich but living and brought up in a very middle class area. So while not the poorest of the poor, poor by comparison to most other kids.

I see what you are saying, I am willing to be a man of action and will be soon. I do, do some of the stuff I say, some stuff I'm just turning over in my mind and weighing up if it's a good idea. At the moment I'm finishing off my house, as much as I would like to drop it and do something I can't until it's done or I would be screwing myself over. It's getting there, hardest bits nearly over with now and just a bit of light finishing work on the horizon. So in about a month or so I'll be about done. At that point I'll hopefully get in before the new student year begins in September and rent out a couple of rooms to students. They are really the target group I am after to rent out to as it means I pay less council tax and they have student loans, grants, etc so in theory are good for the rent money.

My hope is to finish a fair time before mid-late September when the students go back, have the rental all lined up to them and get out to Moldova for at least a few days as a break & meet up with a few girls :)

I really want to be able to live there on an on & off basis in the near future but have to make sure my finances are stable before doing that, as I have a bit of money on credit from doing all the work, etc.

I am however though about to jump into action ;)
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2022, 09:52:12 AM »
Hello everyone,

I am a new member and the reason I became a member is because I want to date a Russian girl. I have read a lot about horror stories where there are a lot of fake profiles on these online sites such as Russiancupid, Anastasia.com, etc, etc.  But I have also read a few success stories where western men was able to find a beautiful Russian girl that isn't out to get their money. Therefore, I am really interested to find a forum, website, where I can meet girls. I want to be able to talk to her on the phone or do skype/zoom video chats.  The success stories usually start out people (men) communicating through phone/text/chats with the women and then visiting Russia and meet them. 

Is there any good information or advice?  Thanks to all in advance. 

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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2022, 10:15:01 AM »
if you meet a couple of sweet lookin Ukrainian girls who want to run to Moldova
you could give them a ride with you, buddy!!
then a couple of miles outside Odesa, you say, “gas” or “ass” in Russian:  "d'vai gaz ili zhopa"
fer sure, it’s gonna be ass/zhopa!!
what a STUD move!!
make a youtube video out of it and profit!!!
turn your life around Trench, be de man!!
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I started this particular thread, and I appreciate most of the ideas. But this right here is not okay, Krim. Telling a woman she has to have sex with me to finish leaving a war zone, at the last minute, when I’ve already offered her a ride?

That’s not a stud move. It’s sexual coercion, which our own government defines as “unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way.”

http://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/other-types/sexual-coercion

Women who have been sexually coerced experience anxiety, depression, and PTSD at the same rate as women who have been violently raped.

Why would you think it is OK to do that to a woman, let alone someone who is fleeing a war zone?

Is this what RWD supports?







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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2022, 10:41:08 AM »
“It’s sexual coercion, which our own government defines as “unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way.”



well, when you say it, it SOUNDS LIKE A BAD THING, too bad the US Gov doesn't have juristiction in either Moldova or Ukraine, where you can do WTF you want!!!

and BTW, how is it coercion, if they say Nyet, I just freakin open the door and let them out
but, if you do it right, 9 times out of 10, they'll say "da"

How do I know this?
take a guess?

I got ALL the pooty-tang in Ukraine I WANTED, ALL OF IT, and you ain't got NONE of that!
and YOU trying to tell me what's "right" and "what's wrong"
is freakin HILARIOUS!!! cuz it's based on your VAST EXPERIENCE, which is essentially ZERO!
 
I employ “sexual coercion” as you call it, so that later, women will reciprocate and engage in “Female Domination” WITH ME! and then I become their “sub”
being a NAKED KGB prisoner being "sexually tortured", during interrogation, by a tall woman in a dark uniform is MY FAVORITE!!

but, are you worried if I’m coerced by a tall woman wearing a dark uniform into revealing NATO's secret plans?
HELL NO!
that’s awfully SEXIST of you!
not to mention puritanical as well
so, that’s “cultural appropriation” as well, unless your ancestors landed on Plymouth Rock
instead of having Plymouth Rock land on them

and lastly, why the HELL is my sex life ANY of YOUR FREAKIN BUSINESS
who are you, the pope?

and if you’re NOT the Pope, then I assume your negative response is based on nothing more than simple jealousy, cuz I get to “expand my sexuality”, into the darker corners of my mind
and you’re stuck at watching porn and jerking-off into your tiny little jerk-off napkin!!
Ewwwwwww!

PS,
you are SO GREEN, you must be some kinda mutant photosynthsizing human hybrid
A Ukrainian woman would devour someone like you so damned fast in one way or another, that it'd blow your mind
my advice, stick with the girls in your bible study group, even if they're freakin ugly, cuz they're on the same wavelength as you!!
but if you're UGLY to, well then you're screwed, buy a dog


 


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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2022, 01:55:46 PM »
Hello everyone,

I am a new member and the reason I became a member is because I want to date a Russian girl. I have read a lot about horror stories where there are a lot of fake profiles on these online sites such as Russiancupid, Anastasia.com, etc, etc.  But I have also read a few success stories where western men was able to find a beautiful Russian girl that isn't out to get their money. Therefore, I am really interested to find a forum, website, where I can meet girls. I want to be able to talk to her on the phone or do skype/zoom video chats.  The success stories usually start out people (men) communicating through phone/text/chats with the women and then visiting Russia and meet them.


Is there any good information or advice?  Thanks to all in advance.

A good starting point are the dating sites DM notify (monthly subscription) and Fdating (free)..... Watch out for email scammers who will give you every excuse under the sun not to call and video chat......Set yourself up with WhatsApp, most FSU women prefer to move to this app to chat..... ATM Qatar airlines are flying to Moscow and Turkish airlines fly to Sochi, but you’ll have to catch a train from Sochi to the woman you’re meeting because there’s a no fly zone down south.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2022, 02:48:22 PM »
if you meet a couple of sweet lookin Ukrainian girls who want to run to Moldova
you could give them a ride with you, buddy!!
then a couple of miles outside Odesa, you say, “gas” or “ass” in Russian:  "d'vai gaz ili zhopa"
fer sure, it’s gonna be ass/zhopa!!
what a STUD move!!
make a youtube video out of it and profit!!!
turn your life around Trench, be de man!!


I started this particular thread, and I appreciate most of the ideas. But this right here is not okay, Krim. Telling a woman she has to have sex with me to finish leaving a war zone, at the last minute, when I’ve already offered her a ride?

That’s not a stud move. It’s sexual coercion, which our own government defines as “unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way.”

http://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/other-types/sexual-coercion

Women who have been sexually coerced experience anxiety, depression, and PTSD at the same rate as women who have been violently raped.

Why would you think it is OK to do that to a woman, let alone someone who is fleeing a war zone?

Is this what RWD supports?

Krim's right. You may go to Ukraine for sex tourism or for a long term relationship/marriage. Either way Ukraine is not the west thankfully. It's why we/I go there, it's not really about RWD supporting sex tourism it apparently doesn't RWD is apparently for those seeking a LTR/Marriage. However the culture out in Ukraine is what it is. I'm not saying all Ukrainian chicks are up for casual sex some are the more moralistic types, etc but Krim understands better than most of us about Ukrainian culture. Krim has lived out there extensively and is pretty much embroiled with it all.

My understanding is less as I haven't got that experience but I would say what I have learnt is that forget western culture when it comes to Ukraine. Ukraine, Russia, etc don't have a culture where they think like us or have our values. The ideas you express like coercion, etc in the western sense of it being a bad thing doesn't really exist in the FSU, not in the moralistic we hold it in at least. So the values we hold isn't the values they hold, some may be totally alien to them and weird sounding. Honestly, it's what I have come to like about Ukraine & the FSU. I personally can't stand all the bs that they waffle on about these days in the west. It's got too much and gone over the top so for me it's great to have a society without all of that. For me it usually takes me a while to detox from western society when first getting back to Ukraine, etc as I really I land with a lot of western values hammered into me that just don't hold in the FSU. So Ukraine really is a place to relax and let it all hang out. That's as I see it anyway.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2022, 03:06:50 PM »
Hello everyone,

I am a new member and the reason I became a member is because I want to date a Russian girl. I have read a lot about horror stories where there are a lot of fake profiles on these online sites such as Russiancupid, Anastasia.com, etc, etc.  But I have also read a few success stories where western men was able to find a beautiful Russian girl that isn't out to get their money. Therefore, I am really interested to find a forum, website, where I can meet girls. I want to be able to talk to her on the phone or do skype/zoom video chats.  The success stories usually start out people (men) communicating through phone/text/chats with the women and then visiting Russia and meet them. 

Is there any good information or advice?  Thanks to all in advance.

If you literally mean a Russian girl as in going to Russia then from some countries you'll need a visa. Why it's handy to put the flag of where you're from on your profile and telling the forum some info about yourself so members can better assist you.

I would also support Fdate & DMnotify as a good place for new starters, they are free and the girls do their own profiles. A few fake profiles but you get that everywhere, normally they will either ask for money or try and take you over to a PPL (Pay Per Letter) site relatively early in messaging as it's money what they are after.

If you go for a girl who is everyday average looking or less then you likely won't have much problem. All depends what you want?
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #60 on: June 29, 2022, 09:11:12 AM »
the rise in the number of covid-19 cases correlates to the amount of international air traffic

just look at the chart, and look at the drop-off for Russia after bi-directional travel restrictions, while popular European destinations show a sharp rise in Covid-19

so what does this tell you, fellow intrepid traveler?

As someone who had covid 6 months ago and was 2X2 vaccinated
I can tell you that the only reason that I am alive right now, and THANKFULLY able to abuse you is BECAUSE I had the freaking vaccines

even with that, I was REALLY sick for about a week,
and slowly improved in the second week

you would NOT want to have this happen to you in an FSU country, unless you have lots of euros or dollars in CASH!

YET, you ARE going into one of the worst spots for getting infected
the military equivalent of this called “Being On The Front Line”

so ya better be sure about what yur doin
or “what yur doin will end up doing you”

I would freakin NOT want to have covid “over there”
have you guys EVER been inside a Ukrainian or Russian Hospitals
the first thing you notice is the paint peeling off the walls and laying on the cement floor”
it looks like a freakin Stalingrad field hospital!!
you ACTUALLY have to bring YOUR OWN SUPPLY OF NEEDLES and let staff use them on you
OR
they will re-use from last patient, and SWEAR at you
So imagine having Covid and feel like you might be dying in the first couple of days of the illness (if you're lucky)
and being HERE

'ya feel me?



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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2022, 05:08:22 PM »
the rise in the number of covid-19 cases correlates to the amount of international air traffic

just look at the chart, and look at the drop-off for Russia after bi-directional travel restrictions, while popular European destinations show a sharp rise in Covid-19

so what does this tell you, fellow intrepid traveler?

As someone who had covid 6 months ago and was 2X2 vaccinated
I can tell you that the only reason that I am alive right now, and THANKFULLY able to abuse you is BECAUSE I had the freaking vaccines

even with that, I was REALLY sick for about a week,
and slowly improved in the second week

you would NOT want to have this happen to you in an FSU country, unless you have lots of euros or dollars in CASH!

YET, you ARE going into one of the worst spots for getting infected
the military equivalent of this called “Being On The Front Line”

so ya better be sure about what yur doin
or “what yur doin will end up doing you”

I would freakin NOT want to have covid “over there”
have you guys EVER been inside a Ukrainian or Russian Hospitals
the first thing you notice is the paint peeling off the walls and laying on the cement floor”
it looks like a freakin Stalingrad field hospital!!
you ACTUALLY have to bring YOUR OWN SUPPLY OF NEEDLES and let staff use them on you
OR
they will re-use from last patient, and SWEAR at you
So imagine having Covid and feel like you might be dying in the first couple of days of the illness (if you're lucky)
and being HERE

'ya feel me?

Interesting thing with the stats is that once again Eastern Europe has much less of an infection rate than the rest of the world. So in theory once there, assuming you didn't catch it whilst in travel once in a country such as Moldova in theory less risk than in a western country, that's with only about a quarter of their population vaccinated.

I get what you're saying Krim that if you had it while over there the health care system isn't where you'd want to be. If it were me I would either see if I was up to getting a flight back or if not just crash back in the hotel/apartment. I personally would rather avoid the hospital and either I'lld make it or I wouldn't. No one lives forever if you'd ever want to, at my age I've spent my younger years so checking out isn't the worst time if it came to that. That or the way this virus is sit out life spending years if not all you're life not doing much, at least not with a woman.

Myself will be a good few weeks before the Moldova thing comes about anyway so see how things sit then but think I would rather risk it soon than be stuck on the fence forever more.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #62 on: June 29, 2022, 05:37:09 PM »
based on my experience, make sure your VAX is up to date
other than flying, which you can't avoid
i'd reduce my exposure to crowds
I'll be flying soon myself, just not to FSU

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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2022, 04:00:14 PM »
based on my experience, make sure your VAX is up to date
other than flying, which you can't avoid
i'd reduce my exposure to crowds
I'll be flying soon myself, just not to FSU

Yeah that's the little fly in the ointment. Thing is I don't want a mRNA vaccine but at the moment that's all they do in the UK, Ireland is much the same and rest of Europe would probably have to prove your a resident. Even in the US I see from news articles that the J&J vaccine has been knocked on the head somewhat. Meanwhile the Astra Zeneca vaccine I had originally seems to have been bought out by all th we poor countries in the world. Valneva was in the process of doing a new non-mRNA vaccine but both the UK & EU have dropped their contracts to buy any though they are nearing end of clinical trials and approval now. Last news from a week or two back is that Valneva may ditch their vaccine as a result of their vaccine contracts being scrapped. Whether the current upsurge in cases may change that who knows. I think it was supposed to be a multi-variant vaccine so possibly with nearing end of clinical trials with apparently good results and with UK and/or EU regulator approval matters may change. My guess is that with Valneva having invested so much in it unless there is a real problem with the vaccine they may press on now that it is so near completion of the process. The upsurge in virus cases would give cause for optimism that new contracts may be given to supply the UK/EU.

That for me looks like the only hope so far is to see if the Valneva one comes up. Earlier in the year the UK media were saying that the gov were considering taking it on for those that did not want the mRNA vaccines, that looked less likely recently possibly but with the new upsurge in cases I reckon it could become a possibility. Anyhow that's about where I'm at the moment, think I'm best of waiting and sitting it out a good few weeks longer and seeing what transpires.
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« Reply #64 on: July 02, 2022, 10:53:45 AM »
I am going to wait since who knows where this will end up.

There is a mountain of inertia finding and marrying a woman from the FSU.
The war and pandemic creates additional paralysis.

I don't know your specific situation. So my advice is general for everybody.
Get on a freaking plane and seduce the delightful Daria while Joe Sixpack
is sitting at home alone spanking his monkey. Steal a smoking hot woman
from one of those keyboard Romeos


Fortune favors the bold, especially with FSUW!!

If you are worried about Ukraine or Russia travel to Minsk or Chisinau
or Almaty.

Ask yourself would you rather watch another series on Netflix or help
Sweety-Buns-Sveta get out of her bikini bottoms? None of the sexy girls
in Karagandy are going to kiss themselves. Somebody has to do it, why
not you?

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #65 on: July 02, 2022, 11:13:59 AM »
Another thing to consider is how many Ukrainian women will build a life in another European country and find a man there. As women get settled into where they are living, they will start to get out and socialize. Attractive ones will become popular quickly. So, visiting a girl currently living in Europe would include competition from local men. I suspect we will hear stories of local men marrying Ukrainian women and women not returning to Ukraine.

I'm not doing a Moby following you around.

My theory is that nobody should care about the 1.5 billion Chinese women
who aren't going to marry you. There are always going to be a large group
of women who aren't going to rip off their clothes and roll around with you.

In my opinion, men should spend most of their time finding the girls who
might rip off their clothes and engage in rolling around.

The more sand and gravel you sort through the more gold you will find.

Udachi!

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FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
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Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2022, 12:35:36 PM »
You mean guys lookin for an economical shortcut to meeting Ukrainian women,  can’t just pay $10 to an “agency” and send a few emails
and this will immediately lead to a gorgeous super model Ukrainian woman showing up at their door with their suitcase,
and with a sign in English that says, “will work AND have sex for food”

Once thse guys find this out, they’re gonna be majorly disappointed and will ask for their $10 back

these dewds think someone is bisexual, if they’re ambidextrous, and can switch hands for self-gratification

sad...
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« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2022, 02:52:07 PM »
You mean guys lookin for an economical shortcut to meeting Ukrainian women,  can’t just pay $10 to an “agency” and send a few emails
and this will immediately lead to a gorgeous super model Ukrainian woman showing up at their door with their suitcase,
and with a sign in English that says, “will work AND have sex for food”

Once thse guys find this out, they’re gonna be majorly disappointed and will ask for their $10 back

these dewds think someone is bisexual, if they’re ambidextrous, and can switch hands for self-gratification

sad...

Step 1. I pull out the photo of my electric can opener from my modern
kitchen and the Slavic girls all get butterflies in their hoo-hah just thinking
of how jealous their girl friends will be. 

2. I pull out the photo of my Mom's double wide with the bitchin above
ground pool as they imagine how they won't have any tan lines if they
float on my official #88 CAR NASCAR air mattress with the built in Piva
holder.

3. I flash my blue passport


4. I never have to go to  step 4 because the first three steps are lady
killerz.

My Real point is the sooner you get on a plane and win a girls heart, 
the sooner the carpel tunnel wrist injury goes away.

Udachi!

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FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #68 on: July 02, 2022, 03:44:01 PM »
What I'm about to say isn't the easiest thing to say given the situation out in Ukraine. In fact it sounds pretty bad saying it given all the suffering out there but is nonetheless more or less a fact or is becoming one. The unfortunate reality of war is that soldiers get killed, way over 90 percent of those soldiers will be men, perhaps as high as 98-99 percent. That misery though will of course in purely statistical terms mean that there will likely be less men to women as a result. It's not something I am hankering on in terms of finding a woman but it is likely to be a reality nonetheless.

The MOB industry over in Ukraine & Russia as we know always used to push out the boat on their being more women to men/not enough men to lure in the western guy. The statistics though as has been brought up on here before didn't really hold that statement to be true on pure statistical terms - at least not until older age in men & women. Now though the MOB industry might actually get some bare statistical truth behind that claim. In the past it was really more that even a western guy who in the west didn't come across all that well to western women could come out on top and as 2tallbill previously explained behind the statistics many local guys just weren't up to it, they could be drug addicts, alcoholics, in jail, unemployed, too low income, too dumb, too bad mentally, etc, etc - some could apply to women as well but odds are men in greater number.

Now of course though in Ukraine men are being lost daily and the monthly figure is likely to be reasonably large. We don't really know the actual figure but it is almost certainly thousands. By the end of the year if it carries on that long it could be what say a good 100,000 soldiers lost on both sides of the conflict, maybe more even. In addition to that of course there are going to the those guys who are badly maimed. Odds are in most cases a girl will regard them as no good as a partner. Ukraine & Russia as we know don't have a good welfare state and if those men can't work/find work they will be regarded as like picking up hot coal by their womenfolk.

So on a purely statistical basis the odds are likely to favour western men going forward. The guy is still best of trying to find the best woman for him and being the best man he can be but the FSW also has the reality of needing a good provider out there and that looks harder to come by for them going forward. Sure there are women that will go into the EU and try and make a go of things there but that won't suit all Ukrainian women. Add to that, that so far this conflict has only affected a handful of Ukrainian cities real bad, the west and central Ukraine are still largely unaffected so a lot of civilians have not been displaced from their cities in these areas. From speaking to Ukrainian women in the past the one from Mariupol told me that she had no wish to be a refugee, that was years before this present event. So I would say that for the guy wishing to get on a plane (I'm not necessarily advocating to visit Ukraine itself at this point in time) and go there, or near there, then there will likely be plenty of women that will be interested in a western guy. At the end of the day I believe that many FSW are pragmatists, they go with whatever is the best option available to them and everything else gets set aside.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2022, 07:07:15 PM »
“It’s sexual coercion, which our own government defines as “unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way.”



well, when you say it, it SOUNDS LIKE A BAD THING, too bad the US Gov doesn't have juristiction in either Moldova or Ukraine, where you can do WTF you want!!!

and BTW, how is it coercion, if they say Nyet, I just freakin open the door and let them out
but, if you do it right, 9 times out of 10, they'll say "da"

How do I know this?
take a guess?

I got ALL the pooty-tang in Ukraine I WANTED, ALL OF IT, and you ain't got NONE of that!
and YOU trying to tell me what's "right" and "what's wrong"
is freakin HILARIOUS!!! cuz it's based on your VAST EXPERIENCE, which is essentially ZERO!
 
I employ “sexual coercion” as you call it, so that later, women will reciprocate and engage in “Female Domination” WITH ME! and then I become their “sub”
being a NAKED KGB prisoner being "sexually tortured", during interrogation, by a tall woman in a dark uniform is MY FAVORITE!!

but, are you worried if I’m coerced by a tall woman wearing a dark uniform into revealing NATO's secret plans?
HELL NO!
that’s awfully SEXIST of you!
not to mention puritanical as well
so, that’s “cultural appropriation” as well, unless your ancestors landed on Plymouth Rock
instead of having Plymouth Rock land on them

and lastly, why the HELL is my sex life ANY of YOUR FREAKIN BUSINESS
who are you, the pope?

and if you’re NOT the Pope, then I assume your negative response is based on nothing more than simple jealousy, cuz I get to “expand my sexuality”, into the darker corners of my mind
and you’re stuck at watching porn and jerking-off into your tiny little jerk-off napkin!!
Ewwwwwww!

PS,
you are SO GREEN, you must be some kinda mutant photosynthsizing human hybrid
A Ukrainian woman would devour someone like you so damned fast in one way or another, that it'd blow your mind
my advice, stick with the girls in your bible study group, even if they're freakin ugly, cuz they're on the same wavelength as you!!
but if you're UGLY to, well then you're screwed, buy a dog


So your response to being called out on immoral actions is to

a) brag about your exploits using graphic details,  as you always do
b) attack my sexual reputation without knowing me
c) make ignorant assumptions about my experience with FSW women
d) malign Bible study groups and the women in them.

None of those very transparent strategies changes the fact that using the threat of death (f*** me or I’ll leave you in a war zone) doesn’t make you a player, or a stud, or someone to be admired. It means you don’t believe you can get the same amount of sexual attention just based on your looks and your personality.

Given your immature response to me, I’m starting to understand why!

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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2022, 09:35:16 PM »
Morality? to god-damned hell with morality!
I have no morality!
In fact, I don't NEED morality!

cuz on the inside, after living for a total of 6 yrs in Russia/Ukraine
I became just like one of THEM!

So, I don't have to show YOU, any stinking morality,
just like the rest of the Russian/Ukrainian people who were born and live there
DON’T have to show YOU any either!

horrosho, ponelle?

If you saw how Russian men treat women “over there”
you would see that in comparison I’m a “perfect gentleman”

I’m not a member, of your church, nor do I believe in an “invisible Sky Daddy” that lives in the clouds and that you can communicate with telepathically

so YOU take your “Sky Daddy Rules” and YOU go live by them if that’s what YOU want!
OTOH, I choose NOT TO! 
Cuz to me it’s ALL 100% BOGUS!
Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, Sky Daddy and Son of Sky Daddy
all the same to me….

Oh NO!  I don’t want to coerce any women, cuz Santa Claus might not bring me a freakin' present!!
how pathetic and childish is THAT?

My sexual comments “ain’t no brag”, just FACTS
just like your silence on this subject is a FACT as well and the silence is deafening
cuz there’s nothing AT ALL for you to say on this subject!

I notice you didn’t DENY any of what I said about you
just “how could I know”
what better way for you to tell me you’re an incel
then what you wrote in your last post!
with what you reveal about yourself, how could YOU NOT be an incel?

I’ve been married 22 years, and had 2 children with my Ukrainian wife, and my children are now adults and also recently married
so even the babies I used to rock to sleep at bedtime 20 years ago, are WAY ahead of YOU
but sure, you go ahead with dispensing your incredible WISDOM to me and the board

« Last Edit: July 02, 2022, 09:56:42 PM by krimster2 »

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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2022, 05:28:08 AM »

So your response to being called out on immoral actions is to

a) brag about your exploits using graphic details,  as you always do
b) attack my sexual reputation without knowing me
c) make ignorant assumptions about my experience with FSW women
d) malign Bible study groups and the women in them.

None of those very transparent strategies changes the fact that using the threat of death (f*** me or I’ll leave you in a war zone) doesn’t make you a player, or a stud, or someone to be admired. It means you don’t believe you can get the same amount of sexual attention just based on your looks and your personality.

Given your immature response to me, I’m starting to understand why!


Krimster lived in Crimea and has spent time in Russia too.


He knows about Russian and Ukrainian women.


My own experience with the women out there is very limited..just three nights in Kyiv..but even i could see that you need to be very assertive with women out there...you need to act like the man and act cool when you're doing it  8)


Being polite and letting them walk all over you won't cut it.


You mustn't appear cheap,but don't flash the cash either or they'll think you're a mug with money to be taken by them.


Never forget many of the most attractive girls will have been sponsored by wealthy married men..so they don't really have the morals you may have.


Many come from harsh backgrounds so will do whatever it takes to ,in their minds,improve the quality of their life.


The reason why so many western men fail out there with the women is because they cannot change their western mindset which is drummed into us almost from birth.


Some of the things Krimster says might not be for you....we're all different personalities,and he's a bit of a maverick...but instead of getting into insults and arguments with him,use the nuggets of info he gives you that sit ok with you.


2tallbill is another poster who can put you on the right track to success out there.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2022, 06:44:30 AM »
My own experience with the women out there is very limited . . . just three nights in Kyiv.  But even I could see that you need to be very assertive with women out there . . .you need to act like the man and act cool when you're doing it 

Being polite and letting them walk all over you won't cut it.

You mustn't appear cheap, but don't flash the cash either . . .

I spent probably a year in total in FSU over a 12 year period and had full first dates with around 150 women.

I was very polite with all the women (initially) and my 'assertiveness' was of the velvet glove type.

I never let anyone walk all over me (except for my days in US Navy as a teenager . . . some silliness about subordinates, 'chain of command,' etc.).  Only 3-4 FSU gals tried it with me . . . and I left them sitting in a restaurant alone . . . after I paid the bill . . . or quickly put  them on a bus or in a taxi.

I 'acted like the man' in planning out initial activities, but later asked for suggestions about where to go, what to do, etc.

I was never very sexually aggressive with a woman.  Just set the tone with pleasant restaurant meals, back to my apartment for wine, cheese, fruits, soft music, pleasant talk, some dancing.  The women usually took the lead as to progressing to sex.

e.g. Unbutton part of blouse or dress, pull shirt up out of jeans or skirt to show some belly, pull zipper down a little bit on jeans or skirt . . . or even the full green light . . . go take a shower.

I remember 5 who gave other specific signs on first dates.
1) When kissed her on neck.  She said 'only do that if we are going to do something because I am easily aroused and don't want to get aroused if nothing will happen.'
2) After first kiss in apartment one said 'I want you.'
3) Two, very early in apartment, said 'Let's go to the bed.'
4) One, while she was sitting at table and I was pouring wine, unzipped my trousers and pulled out my equipment.

Note 1: Each of the 5 gals above were highly educated with good or even high paying professional (not hooker) jobs.  The same applied to virtually all the gals I dated.

Note 2: My target age group was 35-50 years.  Many of the women told me they hadn't even been on a date for months or years.  My experience may not translate to FSU women in different age groups.

My 'let the woman choose' approach led to intimacy with 60 out of 150 at some point on dates 1 through 3 (One was on date 5. Several valid reasons on both sides why nothing on dates 1-4).
Maybe the number would have been higher had I been as aggressive as many FSU men are.
Some FSU women told me that it is not uncommon for FSU men to tell them . . . "I want to Fock you," at a first introduction at a large party, etc.

I fully agree with the statement: "You mustn't appear cheap, but don't flash the cash either . . ."   A fine line to thread or tread.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2022, 06:49:42 AM »

Krimster lived in Crimea and has spent time in Russia too.


He knows about Russian and Ukrainian women.


My own experience with the women out there is very limited..just three nights in Kyiv..but even i could see that you need to be very assertive with women out there...you need to act like the man and act cool when you're doing it  8)


Being polite and letting them walk all over you won't cut it.


You mustn't appear cheap,but don't flash the cash either or they'll think you're a mug with money to be taken by them.


Never forget many of the most attractive girls will have been sponsored by wealthy married men..so they don't really have the morals you may have.


Many come from harsh backgrounds so will do whatever it takes to ,in their minds,improve the quality of their life.


The reason why so many western men fail out there with the women is because they cannot change their western mindset which is drummed into us almost from birth.



Some of the things Krimster says might not be for you....we're all different personalities,and he's a bit of a maverick...but instead of getting into insults and arguments with him,use the nuggets of info he gives you that sit ok with you.


2tallbill is another poster who can put you on the right track to success out there.

That's a really good appraisal I think CB, you've done well to pick that up in the three nights you were out there very well indeed in my opinion.

Thing is if anything society in the west is driving further away from society in the FSU I think. Only in the past week we've had the story with Halifax Bank in the UK giving their staff name badges with pronouns of 'She, Her, Hers' under their name lol, all to do with gender queer stuff. That's how ridiculous and how different things are becoming in the west these days. Can you imagine how a FSU person would see that? I can only imagine they would struggle to fathom it out or what the hell was going on. As you know in the UK a few years back we had the law over coercive control brought in, generally it tends to be men hauled up on it as women are more subtle and devious with being coercive I think. Anyhow in the FSU as far as I get the impression coercion is not really a term banded around, here it never used to be until the last decade or so.

I think that's kind of the issue here as you note that many people here in the west don't realise how different it is out in the FSU. On the surface people can look fairly similar to westerners and act fairly similar but beneath all of that they have a different society & culture. I think it's more akin to going back to somewhere between the 1950s to 1980s in mindset in the west more in that direction. I think it takes some getting to grips with but I'm finding the more I do over time the more comfortable I feel with those values than what we have in the west. I kind of hope it remains that way and not how to the direction the west has taken as I think our society is suffering a lot from going the way it has. I wouldn't want the FSU to change.

In comparison though I think if you look at other societies such as Turkey & Egypt countries like Ukraine are kind to true women for the most part compared to countries like Turkey & Egypt. In Turkey & Egypt beating of the female in marriage or whatever is commonplace and it can often be harsh and frequent beatings at that. Places like Ukraine compared to those countries are liberated, sure they get a bit of bad violence in a bad marriage there but in general it's no comparison to the severity and extensiveness of what goes down in Turkey & Egypt.

I think that is what Professor Keep needs to understand though. It's not a case of just picking yourself up and placing yourself down in Eastern Europe. It's a working class culture over there and they have their ways and are happy with their ways. It's more a case of learn the game and roll with it or decide if it's not for you. That's how I've come to see it anyhow.
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Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2022, 08:49:12 AM »
Thank God it is not obligatory.
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