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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2014, 12:21:57 PM »
competition among them for the few eligible men.

Kate told me this regarding a current situation in Ukraine amongst casual friends of hers in mid 20s.

UW1 was telling her female friends about minor complaints she had about her boyfriend.

UW2 constantly told UW1 that this man was not good enough for her, she should break up with him, etc.

After some time, UW1 and her man did break up.

Within days, UW2 was dating this man.

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2014, 12:30:34 PM »
a little better about this guy here :
All in ukrainian language, with possibly subtitles in english.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2014, 02:12:21 PM by Patagonie »
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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2014, 12:31:16 PM »
Kate told me this regarding a current situation in Ukraine amongst casual friends of hers in mid 20s.

UW1 was telling her female friends about minor complaints she had about her boyfriend.

UW2 constantly told UW1 that this man was not good enough for her, she should break up with him, etc.

After some time, UW1 and her man did break up.

Within days, UW2 was dating this man.
LOL
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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2014, 03:17:15 PM »
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You have to separate the sexual tourists who have thaught that the game will be a screwdriver which will help them to the pussy paradise and the normal course of many guys who have been on the road of seduction (provided that they have stick on it for a long time and that they have some life maturity) which means a continuous way of improvement with a lot of bumps. In one word those guys have gone through a hard way of self development.  You can have some wings to help you, the community and many forums are available to help you, some really good stuff had been written, but the truth is that many time you are alone and you have to assess yourself by yourself.
This is not only  modifying their attractiveness, or exchanges with women, but also their complete life in term of beliefs. It has also benefits in the social life and professional life.
For example the fear of rejection and the shame are two importants topics which prevent you to dare a lot of things, it puts on you a lot of psychological, personal and  social fences.
So for all these reasons their insights are far more relevant than a lot of folks in terms of women/men dynamics.

Pat, looking for a wife and seduction are not the same thing for most people, there is some overlap and commonality but they are different objectives which necessitate different approaches.

Whilst I value some of your insights and comments I have never understood your 'numbering system' ... it really makes no sense to me on a subjective level. I couldn't care if supposedly '9', Vogue models were throwing themselves at me, if there is no intelligence, character and humour in a lady she just doesn't feature on any scale that I have  :)
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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2014, 07:07:34 PM »
Hello I have been reading alot of threads about Russia and Ukraine in a "Pick up Artist Forum" to gather some info on cities.

Several of the members on this forum advise against having a long term relationship with FSU woman because sooner or later they will cheat on their husbands and boyfriends.



Seems to me, by accusing all FSU women of being cheaters allows those men to feel better after they use the women first. Those unethical women deserve to get used. No better men to do the job than those guys, the pick up artists.
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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2014, 09:21:30 PM »
a little better about this guy here :
All in ukrainian language, with possibly subtitles in english.


Partially in Ukrainian, mainly in Russian. Got to the part where some of the women pictured in his book came on stage and tell the audience that they have no idea who he is, have never seen him in their lives. Now, the host is proposing that his book is based solely on his fantasy and is thus fiction....

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2014, 09:29:15 PM »
Now, 8 minutes in, they are discussing whether they can sue him for having used his photos without their permission and no renumeration  ;D

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2014, 01:35:45 PM »
Now, 8 minutes in, they are discussing whether they can sue him for having used his photos without their permission and no renumeration  ;D
I read "bang in Ukraine" and to be honest i don't remember photos of girls in the book. But the fact is, is they are about some "relationships" with comments on girls, so it is quite funny that he was pretending to know them. And brag about her. It is why i have never considered him a an artist (pick up guy yes but not an artist).
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Each woman is unique and will invariably drive you batty in her own special way  ;)

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2014, 09:32:07 AM »
I am older so the women I dated were older also so my comments do not apply to many here. I believe the women I dated would have been faithful wives, They had practically no men in their lives when I knew them but I did not press them on this. As they all had very similar stories and came from different areas of RU and were all professional with good jobs I tend to believe them. They were everyone of them nice people. Never a scammer.

Their main claim was that so many of the Russian men were impotent. Plus they were alcoholics [ probably connected ]. Added to that, many were already dead  :o. Plus a few who were just plain lazy. Yes, they knew decent Russian men but they were already happily married.

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2014, 06:11:03 PM »
Hello I have been reading alot of threads about Russia and Ukraine in a "Pick up Artist Forum" to gather some info on cities.

Several of the members on this forum advise against having a long term relationship with FSU woman because sooner or later they will cheat on their husbands and boyfriends.

"Their hypergamy is constantly looking to trade up, they have little respect for marriage as a life-long institution...
they have a funny view of fidelity, certain forms of prostitution are socially acceptable"

"They are fantastic for short and medium-term relationships, but I am convinced even the sweetest FSU girl would "censored" you over in marriage."


"Russian women are women in the end of the day, are just hypergamous as their Western counterpart, the only difference is that, its a more constructive hypergamy (if you can go that far). Its about getting married and not riding the casserole during their best years. However they will be looking to trade up on you, and even your most Alpha males will have a hard time dealing with the ego of an average Russian girl who moves up 3 points, when she starts living in the U.K or U.S."

"I have been told the opposite from my russian friends (ie. never to date a russian girl). This is because the very second they are not entertained they will go behind your back and cheat on you"

"I wouldn't really trust ANY russian women (I have scr*w*d dozens of married women, girls with fiancees, local and foreign boyfriends etc. without really trying that hard... they seemed to feel no real shame in doing it either)"

"I agree, you cannot really trust Russian women, and they often don't seem to have any qualms about lying."

Well these dudes are all sexual tourists so I think that their perception is wrong:

They aproach hundreds of woman and let's say that they sleep with 20, so they think that those 20 FSU woman are representative of all of them, they forgot about the other 80 women that blow them off!

I don't think that this topic was discussed earlier.
Fellow comrades, what do you think? Are these women all cheaters?

Good sex will usually keep any Russian women from cheating:)

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2014, 06:17:37 PM »
I am older so the women I dated were older also so my comments do not apply to many here. I believe the women I dated would have been faithful wives, They had practically no men in their lives when I knew them but I did not press them on this. As they all had very similar stories and came from different areas of RU and were all professional with good jobs I tend to believe them. They were everyone of them nice people. Never a scammer.

Their main claim was that so many of the Russian men were impotent
. Plus they were alcoholics [ probably connected ]. Added to that, many were already dead  :o. Plus a few who were just plain lazy. Yes, they knew decent Russian men but they were already happily married.
Being dead would definately see them being impotent!! :)
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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2014, 06:21:48 PM »
I am older so the women I dated were older also so my comments do not apply to many here. I believe the women I dated would have been faithful wives, They had practically no men in their lives when I knew them but I did not press them on this. As they all had very similar stories and came from different areas of RU and were all professional with good jobs I tend to believe them. They were everyone of them nice people. Never a scammer.

Their main claim was that so many of the Russian men were impotent. Plus they were alcoholics [ probably connected ]. Added to that, many were already dead  :o. Plus a few who were just plain lazy. Yes, they knew decent Russian men but they were already happily married.

Many Russian men are impotent ?? Well that is a new one:)

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2014, 06:23:19 PM »
Many Russian men are impotent ?? Well that is a new one:)

Being dead would definately see them being impotent!! :)
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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2014, 02:32:12 PM »
Maybe I did not phrase this all well as I could have.
What I am saying is the rate of death for older men in Russia is not good and as my wife likes to point out to me this limited her choices.
Also, acute alcoholism can cause impotence. This was a complaint I heard from the women I was seeing - not based on my personal experiences  :o

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2014, 04:49:40 PM »

many of the Russian men were impotent.

They cannot afford viagra - what do you expect?   ;D
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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2014, 06:49:41 PM »
Being dead would definately see them being impotent!! :)

That might also account for those men being lazy as well. 

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2014, 03:27:33 PM »
So!!!! Some good advise for anyone traveling to Russia is keep it a secret that you know most Russian men are impotent and you have come to steal their women.
Otherwise you may find yourself with a sore head and a few black eyes. There would be no point complaining to the police either, they would also probably give you a kicking back at the station until you are totally unconscious .  :-X :-X

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2014, 06:30:14 PM »
So!!!! Some good advise for anyone traveling to Russia is keep it a secret that you know most Russian men are impotent and you have come to steal their women.
Otherwise you may find yourself with a sore head and a few black eyes. There would be no point complaining to the police either, they would also probably give you a kicking back at the station until you are totally unconscious .  :-X :-X


And perhaps sodomize you too just to prove they are not impotent.  Impotent Russians?  That's a good one. 

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2014, 08:57:51 PM »
Hello I have been reading alot of threads about Russia and Ukraine in a "Pick up Artist Forum" to gather some info on cities.

Several of the members on this forum advise against having a long term relationship with FSU woman because sooner or later they will cheat on their husbands and boyfriends.

"Their hypergamy is constantly looking to trade up, they have little respect for marriage as a life-long institution...
they have a funny view of fidelity, certain forms of prostitution are socially acceptable"

"They are fantastic for short and medium-term relationships, but I am convinced even the sweetest FSU girl would "censored" you over in marriage."


"Russian women are women in the end of the day, are just hypergamous as their Western counterpart, the only difference is that, its a more constructive hypergamy (if you can go that far). Its about getting married and not riding the casserole during their best years. However they will be looking to trade up on you, and even your most Alpha males will have a hard time dealing with the ego of an average Russian girl who moves up 3 points, when she starts living in the U.K or U.S."

"I have been told the opposite from my russian friends (ie. never to date a russian girl). This is because the very second they are not entertained they will go behind your back and cheat on you"

"I wouldn't really trust ANY russian women (I have scr*w*d dozens of married women, girls with fiancees, local and foreign boyfriends etc. without really trying that hard... they seemed to feel no real shame in doing it either)"

"I agree, you cannot really trust Russian women, and they often don't seem to have any qualms about lying."

Well these dudes are all sexual tourists so I think that their perception is wrong:

They aproach hundreds of woman and let's say that they sleep with 20, so they think that those 20 FSU woman are representative of all of them, they forgot about the other 80 women that blow them off!

I don't think that this topic was discussed earlier.
Fellow comrades, what do you think? Are these women all cheaters?

Being involved in the pick up community for a while previously, what I will say is that meeting women via cold-approach tends to attract a particular type of women, someone more promiscuous.

What you also need to factor in is that after going out time and time again, trying to meet wome via cold-approach, you learn to recognise the sutble body language cues indicating a woman is more open to having a one night stand. They're the ones they tend to go for, the girls who have boyfriends and are loyal ignore them.

The other thing too is the PUA sub-culture advocates that all women are "promiscuous", that most will leave you as soon as they meet a guy more "alpha", so their is no doubt some selective bias exists in their interpretation of things.

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2014, 11:17:10 AM »
You have the wrong Russian friends and are meeting the wrong Russian women...;-)

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2014, 09:58:03 PM »
a little better about this guy here :
All in ukrainian language, with possibly subtitles in english.


Watched the whole thing, very interesting in more ways than one.
I bet if you wash these girls' faces with a soap, you will find pimples and bad skin below the one inch layer of makeup. Many Ukrainian women have "pockets" under their eyes. I was told it's because of pollution, but with so much makeup you can't tell. They all look like models. Makeup is intended to emphasize some features, not totally change them. And it makes them seem very insecure.

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2014, 09:56:50 AM »
Watched the whole thing, very interesting in more ways than one.
I bet if you wash these girls' faces with a soap, you will find pimples and bad skin below the one inch layer of makeup. Many Ukrainian women have "pockets" under their eyes. I was told it's because of pollution, but with so much makeup you can't tell. They all look like models. Makeup is intended to emphasize some features, not totally change them. And it makes them seem very insecure.

I do not understand your "very insecure" comment. 

I agree that many FSUW are avid believers in pancake makeup.  I saw more of this in Ukraine, yet it is found in Russia too.  It all depends upon the woman.  I dated several women in RU and UA who wore little makeup.  My wife is such a woman.  Yet even with her natural approach, she occasionally will overdo the makeup based on my preferences.  What can a man do?

Regarding skin, I found Slavic skin to be beautiful: soft, clear, smooth and almost hairless.  Not every FSUW is so blessed, yet on average I say FSUW skin is better than AW skin.   Some FSUW can be too white and are camouflaged on white bed sheets.  I mention this only because I am perfect.

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2014, 03:08:39 PM »
@Gator:

Ref: insecure for the girls showing on youtube -> they feel they have to wear so much make up, fake extra long eyelashes, lipstick that make their lips appear like vaginal, extra short skirts, super high heels, etc. I can only see one reason (in fact, I know it is one reason), i.e., they are insecure. It is their culture that makes women insecure. Everyone knows the Russian woman must dress up and put makeup to take the trash out from fear she may be seen by neighbors and be called ugly. If this is not insecurity, then I don't know what is ...

American woman doesn't give a shit. We may not like it and prefer women who will bend backwards to appeal to us men, but I must admit AW's are more secure.
I have respect for AW's because of this.

It is a myth that FSU women are on average prettier than western women. Please save the talk about the hairless skin, some of the more mature ones don't even save their arm pits and genital areas LOL Yes, there are pretty girls in Ukraine, some very pretty, just as there are everywhere else. But the average young girl is not prettier than a young girl in Scandinavia or even other western countries or America for that matter. Don't look at the glamour pictures posted by agencies. See the pictures posted on sites that sport private emailers. They tend to put real pictures. I wouldn't date 90% of these girls. And drive around Ukraine and not just Kiev, go where people live their every day lives, most UW's are plain vanilla. Yes, I look for youth and good looks. This is the only reason we go there and those who don't admit it are plain hypocrites. And, FSU women do not age well. If you have been to the beach in Yalta or Odessa, you know what I'm talking about. And, there are myths about UW's. When I was in the game 13 years ago, the myth was that you would marry a model who would dedicate her life pleasing you, and cooking and cleaning for you LOL and people believed this shit. These days, the marketing schemes are different of course, but still center around the myth that UWs are the prettiest women on earth. In fact, if you ask young UWs, they believe this because they think all these foreign chaps must come here for a reason. We must be the prettiest women and their women must be the ugliest women.

I would rather have a 20ish American hottie all the way every day than any Ukrainian girl. But they won't take me because such large age difference is not acceptable in my culture whereas the UW's will. This is the only reason I am willing to continue to go there.

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Re: Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2014, 03:11:26 PM »
I would rather have a 20ish American hottie all the way every day than any Ukrainian girl. But they won't take me because such large age difference is not acceptable in my culture whereas the UW's will. This is the only reason I am willing to continue to go there.

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