Ukraine-The Future

[JayH]

 Congratulations to Ukraine and all Ukrainians everywhere for getting to this election and it being conducted--- despite the shadow of Russia.
15% of eligible voters were unable to vote--either on the Crimea or areas where it was too dangerous to attempt setting up ballots.
As I write it has been an overwhelming vote for a Ukraine free of outside influences,free of corruption,free of the past-- and in particular--free of Russia.
Over 80% ( maybe as high as 95% of the vote ) has been pro an independent Ukraine -- only a very small number of votes for pro-Russian candidates.
It has been a magnificent achievement to conduct  a mainly peaceful election day -- a remarkable effort in fact.
There is a lot to do for the new President-- the work of the coalition has been excellent and needs to be carried on-- it is clearly the desire of the people.
Many Ukrainians have a healthy scepticism about governments-- born out of the disappointments in the past and recent past-- but there is a new optimism. The Russian invasion of the Crimea,Russian sponsored and promoted terrorism,Russian propaganda has all helped  break the historic soft spot for Russia-- and created a new sense of Ukrainian identity  and Ukrainian nationalism.
Now for the future--there is a lot to do !!

According to the first data processing protocols, leadership keeps Poroshenko. According to the data processing 10.17% of protocols in electronic form Poroshenko voted 54.8% of voters, Yulia Timoshenko - 13.24%.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/vybory-2014/vybory-prezidenta/rezultati-viboriv-poroshenko-nabiraye-50-56-opracovano-0-1-protokoliv-351455.html
By Oleg Lyashko voted 8,45% of voters Anatoly Gritsenko - 5.55%, Sergei Tigipko - 4.74%. Recall, according to exit polls , the undisputed leader of the presidential election became Poroshenko. By a wide margin followed by Yulia Tymoshenko. Third place went to Oleg Lyashko.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/vybory-2014/vybory-prezidenta/rezultati-viboriv-poroshenko-nabiraye-50-56-opracovano-0-1-protokoliv-351455.html

http://tsn.ua/politika/vibori-2014-ukrayina-obiraye-novogo-prezidenta-351177.html

[AkMike]

If they continue on this path Ukraine has a bright future with the rest of the free world.

 The other guys...well, NOT! 

[JayH]

Below is a Ukrainians summary of events of the last few months and that  is the result of maidan. I highly recommend reading as it does represent a summary of many events in a short time. Maidan was the litmus for change and a future.

"You ask, what made ​​Maidan? very much, despite the Russian aggression and treacherous separatism. Russians about this not even dream in the sweet dream. Here is a short list of what has been making the new government before the election of the new president: Bogdan Stasiuk wrote a brief list of achievements of the new government (Motherland Freedom) in just 3 months: 1. Restored the Constitution of 2004. Liquidated usurpation president. 2. Mezhigorie confiscated estates and other officials, built on the stolen funds. 3. Tuples and eliminated overlapping streets to officials. 4. Released from prison all political prisoners. 5. Released from prison all illegally convicted (family Paulichenka Zaporozhec etc.). 6. Dismantled fences and barriers at government buildings. 7. Liquidated "Berkut" 8. Ukraine has received an invitation to join the European Union. 9. Organized reverse gas supplies from Europe, buying gas in Russia decreased by three times. 10. Obtained 1 mld. euro financial aid and 10 mld. Euro loans under a minimum percentage of the EU. 11. Senior officials fly economy class on international negotiations. 12. Activists freely visited home Yatsenyuk and Tymoshenko. 13. European Union opened the borders for Ukrainian goods. Cleared about 98% of the duty. 14. Russian television channels broadcast prohibited on the territory of Ukraine. 15. A National Guard of Ukraine. 16. Organized selling expensive cars officials at a public auction. 17. Dismantled dozens of monuments to Lenin. 18. Signed by the political part of the Association Agreement with the European Union. 19. Obtained 1.6 mld. dollars in financial aid from the United States. 20. Ukrainian defense plants a year loaded with government contracts to refurbish Army. Army first received the new "raft", "Bulat" and other equipment. 21. Ukraine withdrew from the CIS. 22. Preparations for the introduction of a visa regime with Russia. 23. Decree on Combating raiding. 24. Ukraine's state debt reduced by 10% 25. Japan announced the granting Ukraine a loan of 10 mld. dollars for 40 years at 0.1% 26. Government canceled 158 acts Arbuzov-Azarov government. 27. Canceled recycling fee for cars. 28. Eliminated criminal schemes Naftogaz Kurchenko groups. 29. The necessary laws for visa-free regime with the EU, which is expected to start in 2015. 30. Simplified access to public information. 31. 24000 Started reduction and privatization of state officials dachas in Koncha Zaspa. 32. 100 UN member states at the General Assembly supported Ukraine and Russia condemned. 33. Arrested on account Medvedchuk and closed his newspaper "Vesti". 34. Berkut detained, suspected of shooting people. 35. Ukraine began to buy nuclear fuel for power plants in the United States. 36. The Government has launched a number of joint IT-company project to create 100 thousand new jobs in the IT-sphere, and in the modernization of the educational system of Ukraine plans to invest $ 1 billion 37. Ukraine ahead of Russia on the level of social development according to Deloitte. 38. A law on lustration judges. 39. Open all information on public procurement. 40. Income in the general fund budget by 9% more than last year. 41. Financing of the army increased by 5 mld. Rs. 42. Prohibited "Russian bloc" and "Russian ednstvo." 43. The Cabinet has removed restrictions on the presence of deputies at government meetings. 44. In Kiev property returned Dvor, bookstore "Syayvo" Actor's House, Heart Center and the stadium "Start". 45. Special commission established under the Ministry of Justice to investigate the facts of torture in prisons and detention centers. 46. The Cabinet has increased the salaries of public sector employees from October 1, 2014 by 40%. 47. The U.S. Embassy in Ukraine to extend the visas to ten years. 48. The first time since 2005, the U.S. gave the Ukrainian first class airport security than actually opened their skies for our airlines. 49. IMF granted Ukraine a stabilization loan of 17 mld. U.S.. 50. U.S. ruled Ukraine from the list of major violators of intellectual property. 51. Ukraine was the first of the countries that are not members of the European Union, joined the system transparent display data AGSI Standards Association of European operators of underground gas storage facilities (GSE) 52. Ukraine and the European Union signed an agreement on joint aviation area. 53. Passed and signed into law on public television. 54. Ukraine placed five-year Eurobonds for $ 1 billion, issued under the guarantee of the United States. 55. Exports of goods from Ukraine for the first time in 8 years exceeded imports. 56. Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Oleksandr Turchynov Parliament requested the secretariat to develop a new system of voting deputies, which excludes impersonal voting. 57. NATO invited Ukraine to join the organization. 58. Information about the ultimate owners of all banks should be made ​​public on the website of the National Bank until September 1 of this year. 59. Cabinet proposes to eliminate the State Administration. 60. Initiated ban the Communist Party. When on our street are such holidays??? Well, the Russians impressive? That is why Putin is so splatters saliva on the Maidan. Usurper understands it - his death and the end of his gang"

[JayH]

I have been asked why I post links-- and others writing-- often there is an excellent assessment and explanation.So much accords with my own views that it is easier to include in full .

Some very interesting writing that is appearing-- here is another summary by a Ukrainian.


"The most important result of the Ukrainian presidential election - is not that the president elected Poroshenko. And is not that the first Ukrainian president is elected in the first round. And not even the fact that Yulia Tymoshenko suffered a serious defeat, calling into question its chances of further participation in the political life of Ukraine on the first cast. most important result of yesterday's presidential election - is the formal, legal death of Putin's myth of the so-called "Splitting" of Ukraine on the west-central and south-eastern parts, to "zapadentsev" and Russian, to "Bandera" and "New Russia." This is a funeral plan under section Putin Ukraine. This final completion period of 20 years "Ukrainianization" important stage towards Westernization and Europeanization of Ukraine, which we discussed here. first elections in two decades in independent Ukraine was elected head of state is not a vote against the inhabitants of East Ukraine votes residents of the West and its votes are not residents of the West against the votes of its inhabitants East. First elected president of Ukraine votes in the whole country, the voices of residents of all major Ukrainian Macroregions. Moreover, the first four of Ukrainian presidential candidate by the number of votes they received in the current elections (Poroshenko, Tymoshenko O.Lyashko, Gritsenko, regardless of the details of their programs and personal qualities) politically represent the West and Centre of Ukraine, it is not the East and South. According to the total number of votes received by them (about 83% - according to exit polls), this means an absolute victory of the national selection Ukrainian citizens western version of a unified Ukraine. Number of votes received by the most popular candidate, which can be considered as a candidate for the "East", S.Tigipko (4.8%), as well as the most popular candidate Putin M. Dobkin (2.1%), means that projects V. Putin to seize the Ukraine, to establish control over Ukraine under section Ukraine suffered a crushing defeat. other words, the intermediate result of a ten Putin's war against Ukraine - despite repeated statements by Putin's propaganda about the alleged his incredible "success and victory" - turned out to be a total collapse of Putin plans in Ukraine. Ukraine is not an Bandera. Or anti-Russian. Or anti-Russian. Ukraine, virtually all of Ukraine, became an anti-Putin. And focus on the integration into the West, ie in the modern world. Congratulations to the brotherly people! Andrei Illarionov,"

[AkMike]

BERN, 26 May 2014 – OSCE Chairperson-in-Office and Swiss Foreign Minister, Didier Burkhalter, rates the early presidential elections in Ukraine of May 25 as an important milestone in the process of de-escalation of the crisis. He thanked the election observation mission of the OSCE Office Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (OSCE/ODIHR) to Ukraine and the observation delegation of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly for their invaluable work.

Commending Ukraine for holding elections with a high turnout, largely in line with international commitments and respectful of fundamental freedoms, despite difficult circumstances and violence and threats in two eastern regions, Burkhalter called on all sides to contribute to a further normalization of the situation in the country. Recalling the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Missions to assist Ukraine in implementing various measures for reducing tensions, he said that the OSCE is looking forward to working closely with President-elect Petro Poroshenko and his government and promised the Chairmanship’s full support in peacefully resolving the crisis.

Burkhalter congratulated Poroshenko on his success and proposed a meeting between the two leaders. He welcomed Poroshenko’s announcement to arrange for early visits in the regions and to look out for co-operative solutions with all sides involved to continue on the path towards stabilization. “It is vital that all sides engage in dialogue, both within and beyond Ukraine,” Burkhalter concluded, adding that the Chairmanship is ready to assist any such efforts if requested by the parties.

[BillyB]

OSCE Chairperson-in-Office and Swiss Foreign Minister, Didier Burkhalter, rates the early presidential elections in Ukraine of May 25 as an important milestone in the process of de-escalation of the crisis. He thanked the election observation mission of the OSCE Office Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (OSCE/ODIHR) to Ukraine and the observation delegation of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly for their invaluable work.

Commending Ukraine for holding elections with a high turnout, largely in line with international commitments and respectful of fundamental freedoms, despite difficult circumstances and violence and threats in two eastern regions, Burkhalter called on all sides to contribute to a further normalization of the situation in the country.

I'm not surprise the OSCE is accepting this election in Ukraine when considering their past work. IMO, the election is unacceptable due to the citizens of two large regions not having adequate/safe places to vote. Let's say the majority of citizens of two states in USA are having issues voting. Not acceptable.


The unrest in a few regions in Ukraine isn't caused by the government but by a few armed thugs. Even if everybody in east Ukraine was able to vote, it wouldn't change the outcome. Those are reasons most nations will accept the new president of Ukraine. That is why I can accept the new president of Ukraine. Other than that, I don't agree with OSCE stating the election meets international standards.

[Manny]

15% of eligible voters were unable to vote--either on the Crimea or areas where it was too dangerous to attempt setting up ballots.

Why would Crimea be eligible to vote, its in Russia?

As I write it has been an overwhelming vote for a Ukraine free of outside influences,free of corruption,free of the past-- and in particular--free of Russia.

Umm, except that the guy "voted" for was chosen by Nuland, is an oligarch and has been in politics for some time.

There is a lot to do for the new President-- the work of the coalition has been excellent and needs to be carried on-- it is clearly the desire of the people.

Does that include bombing Donetsk Airport as they are doing at this moment?

You live in a world of your own.

[tfcrew]

I have been asked why I post links-- and others writing-- often there is an excellent assessment and explanation.So much accords with my own views that it is easier to include in full .

 

But I don't see the links...just copy and paste that's difficult to read where did they from?

[Muzh]

Does that include bombing Donetsk Airport as they are doing at this moment?

You live in a world of your own.

[stilllooking]

Why would Crimea be eligible to vote, its in Russia?

Umm, except that the guy "voted" for was chosen by Nuland, is an oligarch and has been in politics for some time.

Does that include bombing Donetsk Airport as they are doing at this moment?

You live in a world of your own.

Let me guess, UKIP voter?

[stilllooking]

I'm not surprise the OSCE is accepting this election in Ukraine when considering their past work. IMO, the election is unacceptable due to the citizens of two large regions not having adequate/safe places to vote. Let's say the majority of citizens of two states in USA are having issues voting. Not acceptable.


The unrest in a few regions in Ukraine isn't caused by the government but by a few armed thugs. Even if everybody in east Ukraine was able to vote, it wouldn't change the outcome. Those are reasons most nations will accept the new president of Ukraine. That is why I can accept the new president of Ukraine. Other than that, I don't agree with OSCE stating the election meets international standards.

You mean like Bush jr being helped into the white house by the other Bush Jr. down in Florida so he could finish Bush Sr. unfinished business in Iraq? yes, that is a much better way to decide an election, good old electoral fraud.

[Manny]

Let me guess, UKIP voter?

Like most of the voters here? Yes. Absolutely. You will have noticed that Farage just won a landslide election.

Let me guess, Labour voter?

[stilllooking]

Like most of the voters here? Yes. Absolutely. You will have noticed that Farage just won a landslide election.

Let me guess, Labour voter?

'Most' voters voted for UKIP? since when does 27% or 28% mean most? Am not a native English speaker, and maybe someone will enlighten me but would have thought 'Most' meant more voted for them than did not vote for them, and 28% would mean 72% voted for someone other than UKIP, I would say those 73% is closer to what 'most' would mean than the 27% that voted for UKIP.

Labour? that guess about as bad as your vote in the elections.

[Manny]

'Most' voters voted for UKIP? since when does 27% or 28% mean most? Am not a native English speaker, and maybe someone will enlighten me but would have thought 'Most' meant more voted for them than did not vote for them, and 28% would mean 72% voted for someone other than UKIP, I would say those 73% is closer to what 'most' would mean than the 27% that voted for UKIP.

Labour? that guess about as bad as your vote in the elections.

Your side bio doesn't even give a country, so you are Mr/Mrs Unidentified, thus I can't really take you seriously. Nor can I correlate British politics to the subject matter. So I wont encourage you to go off topic any further by responding to your silliness again. If you want something to do, go fill in your side bio.

Anyway, Jay will now have a slew of stolen text peppered with his own insults to power post..........

[stilllooking]

Your side bio doesn't even give a country, so you are Mr/Mrs Unidentified, thus I can't really take you seriously. Nor can I correlate British politics to the subject matter. So I wont encourage you to go off topic any further by responding to your silliness again. If you want something to do, go fill in your side bio.

Anyway, Jay will now have a slew of stolen text peppered with his own insults to power post..........

Better now?

The correlation is that Mr Farage seems to admire mr Putin and the way mr Putin operates. Has even defended Putler after prince Charles comments. the comments you made could have come straight from his mouth.

[southernX]

Why would Crimea be eligible to vote, its in Russia?

You live in a world of your own.

MANNY , crimea was invaded and stolen , violating international law . so technically under the law it is part of ukraine  fancy that hey !!

As I write it has been an overwhelming vote for a Ukraine free of outside influences,free of corruption,free of the past-- and in particular--free of Russia.




Umm, except that the guy "voted" for was chosen by Nuland, is an oligarch and has been in politics for some time.

the guy [poroshenko ]  has apolitical history yes
however part of that history has been against corruption , of course he is not a clean skin , but he aint too bad either ,
and wow , nuland was caught talking politics behind the scenes on who might be the best contender the yanks would like to see in the job, big deal ,
dont tell me you never speculate on the phone with your mates /colleagues about the possible outcomes of some major upcoming event that will effect you ??
does it mean you and your mate fixed the upcoming event already ??nah course not ,

There is a lot to do for the new President-- the work of the coalition has been excellent and needs to be carried on-- it is clearly the desire of the people.



Does that include bombing Donetsk Airport as they are doing at this moment?

bombing ??  show us the evidence of the bombing please manny ??

more like anti missile flares & the destruction of machine gun posts
show us your evidence of the ''bombing'' please ??

SX

[southernX]

muzh     like it 

[calmissile]

+100

[stilllooking]

bombing ??  show us the evidence of the bombing please manny ??

more like anti missile flares & the destruction of machine gun posts
show us your evidence of the ''bombing'' please ??

SX

In fairness the bbc is/was reporting rockets launched at the airport building. I would also call that bombing, but then, I guess I would also call the taking of the airport a terrorist action....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27578440

[southernX]

In fairness the bbc is/was reporting rockets launched at the airport building. I would also call that bombing, but then, I guess I would also call the taking of the airport a terrorist action....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27578440

this link below gives a good account of events at the airport
no mention of bombing
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukrainians-vote-in-momentous-may-25-election-to-pick-nations-fifth-president-live-updates-349211.html

given the pro russians are seperatist terrorists who are breaking the law , how should the gov react ?
i think we know how mr putin would react if it was in russia 

[JayH]

this link below gives a good account of events at the airport
no mention of bombing
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukrainians-vote-in-momentous-may-25-election-to-pick-nations-fifth-president-live-updates-349211.html

given the pro russians are seperatist terrorists who are breaking the law , how should the gov react ?
i think we know how mr putin would react if it was in russia 

The air action was directed at anti-aircraft guns of separists ( like you buy them at the corner store !!)  Some confused reports as to what was actually "seized" -- I do not think it was actually the terminal--but perimeter areas--later reports will clarify that.The bottom line is that government forces are getting on top of overall situation now.

http://news.liga.net/news/incident/1902533-v_donetske_siloviki_vremenno_prekratili_zachistku_ot_terroristov.htm

"The officer said that the morning before the terrorists issued an ultimatum, according to which they had to leave the airport building for security guarantees, but they refused, so was "carried out the work to destroy them." Dmitrashkovsky noted that the anti-terrorist operation in the Donbass will continue until the complete destruction of the terrorists. In respect of them may apply "precision-guided weapons."

Recall, c 26 May ciloviki conduct anti-terrorist operation against the terrorists who hijacked International Airport. Prokofiev Donetsk. At 13:00, after the terrorists who seized the airport, refused to lay down their arms, anti-terrorist operation entered its active phase. Against terrorists were involved in two of the Su-25, which carried out warning shots.

In response, opened fire from all weapons. After that, the work involved two aircraft MiG-29 and four Mi-24 helicopters. Once they "worked" the territory of the helicopter were landed, which currently conducts its sweep.

Prokofiev Donetsk airport on Monday suspended the operation of flights.

[JayH]

Why would Crimea be eligible to vote, its in Russia?

Umm, except that the guy "voted" for was chosen by Nuland, is an oligarch and has been in politics for some time.

Does that include bombing Donetsk Airport as they are doing at this moment?

You live in a world of your own.

Funny how you can get so much confused-- it is you who lives out of sync with the world.Maybe it is your fear of a return of the "Muslim" terrorists who shut down your world?Maybe they were Ukrainian Muslims? Or was it a Ukrainian guy cutting your grass at some time?
Whatever the reasons your record of anti Ukrainian and derogatory remarks about Ukraine generally and Ukrainian women is  a matter of record for all to see.
Crimeans are Ukrainians and still entitled to vote--that right is not usurped by an invading army of Russia--or by a few extremists attempting to usurp the democratic rights of Ukrainians-- see-- not hard to understand is it?

The fact that the Russian and Russian sponsored terrorists seek to use ordinary Ukrainians as a shield to prevent removal or apprehension tells us what cowards they really are-- and how little support  there is for them.

Continuing to spew Russian propaganda only makes you look ridiculous-- amazingly doing it here. I can understand why you and the paid disciples do it to promote forum traffic in another place-- but surely-- even you cannot be so dumb as believing Kremlin propaganda--then again-- chances are that you are.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian media reported that several thousand Crimeans drove to the border regions to vote. But those are vanishingly small numbers compared to the more than two million people who live on the Crimean peninsula.
http://www.dw.de/ukrainians-hope-for-a-new-beginning/a-17662038

[JayH]

Anyway, Jay will now have a slew of stolen text peppered with his own insults to power post..........

Must be shocking to see that here I can respond!!
You and your hero Putin have something in common ( besides being ............s) neither of you allow free speech. So now you throw out an attempt to insult-- as you complain about being insulted?   You know there is a defence to libel and slander-- stating a truth  does the trick!
The problem here is this-- you use the word "stolen"-- mmm  big word with zero evidence.
It seems clear that you and others object to seeing  material that does not fit your jaundiced beliefs--the fact that I post material of information and opinions I agree with --or I believe is of general interest to help inform others-- now that is useful and in sharp contrast with the blowhards you promote in another place.

[lordtiberius]

Every boring day is a victory for Ukraine.  Every day with botox injections is a good day for Uncle Vova.

[ghost of moon goddess]

How come, in the country crawling with 'Banderists' and 'Neo Nazis', Vadim Rabinovich (a Ukrainian Jewish candidate for Ukraine's presidential election) outpolls the Right Sector and Svoboda candidates in taking 2.25 percent of the vote, while the latter two candidates receive only 1,86 percent, collectively?