More Bad News for Russia

[Gator]

Although he is Jewish, anytime I've heard Bernard-Levi speak, I've had the impression he considers himself French.

He should; he is French. 

I just now read more about Levi.  He defended two Catholic Popes being criticized by the Jewish community.  He does not shy away from danger.  He covered the brief war between Georgia and Russia, so he brings relevant knowledge to his analysis of the conflict in Ukraine.  After spending time in Libya, he was key in convincing the West and the UN to intervene to prevent a massacre.

[Gator]

Antisemitism is OK on the forum now?

That's not me LT. 

[fathertime]

Many?  Just one with you (but don't talk to my wife).  Yet, my one mistake is one more than you because you have never admitted to being wrong.

Yes many, or perhaps you have only made one mistake!   You just made another by saying I won't admit errors because[size=78%]I am not ashamed to admit mistakes, I've made plenty of them...although I don't routinely blow a gasket when somebody has a different viewpoint, like you often do.[/size]
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[/size][size=78%]Fathertime!   [/size]

[lordtiberius]

Yes many, or perhaps you have only made one mistake!   You just made another by saying I won't admit errors because[size=78%]I am not ashamed to admit mistakes, I've made plenty of them...although I don't routinely blow a gasket when somebody has a different viewpoint, like you often do.[/size]
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[/size][size=78%]Fathertime!   [/size]

Now that is funny FT.   

[AC]

A German security consultant wins against the Kremlin after a 20 year battle. 


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/10/world/europe/once-friendly-with-putin-german-goes-to-court-over-seized-assets.html?rref=world/europe&module=Ribbon&version=origin&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Europe&pgtype=article

[AC]

This is a really good chronicle of the war with a lot of details.  I hope everybody reads it and learns something from it; unless you know everything already.   


http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/12/15/the-donbas-war-a-chronicle/

[Anotherkiwi]

This is a really good chronicle of the war with a lot of details.  I hope everybody reads it and learns something from it; unless you know everything already.   


http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/12/15/the-donbas-war-a-chronicle/

Very interesting - it would be nice if they have done an updated version.  A lot has happened in the past two months.

[AC]

Bipartisan support in the US Congress for arming Ukraine.


http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2015/02/09/senators-push-for-military-aid-for-ukraine.html

[lordtiberius]

Bipartisan support in the US Congress for arming Ukraine.


http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2015/02/09/senators-push-for-military-aid-for-ukraine.html

And Obama agrees with Merkel or haven't you heard . . . . ?

[AkMike]

More bad news for Russia.. on the home front.

Russian Capital Flight Deepens as Entrepreneurs Decamp to London   
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-capital-flight-deepens-as-entrepreneurs-decamp-to-london/515776.html

Russia's Economic Crisis Forces Secret Service FSB to Downsize 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-s-economic-crisis-forces-secret-service-fsb-to-downsize/515756.html

Renault Mothballs Moscow Factory as Russian Car Sales Nosedive 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/renault-mothballs-moscow-factory-as-russian-car-sales-nosedive/515741.html

There Will Be No World War, Russia Is Alone 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/there-will-be-no-world-war-russia-is-alone/515773.html

State Building Contracts Inflated By Up to 40% — Audit Chamber
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/state-building-contracts-inflated-by-up-to-40-audit-chamber/515644.html

Sanctions Cause Leadership Crisis as Foreign Directors Ditch Russian Firms 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/sanctions-cause-leadership-crisis-as-foreign-directors-ditch-russian-firms/510225.html

Ruble Falls Ahead of Minsk Peace Summit 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/ruble-falls-ahead-of-ukraine-peace-summit-analysts-see-volatile-trading/515739.html


Medvedev Orders Stockpiles of Medicine as Russia's Ruble Slumps
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/medvedev-orders-stockpiles-of-medicine-as-russia-s-ruble-slumps/514114.html

Russia's Rosneft to Adjust Forex Accounting to Shield Profits From Weak Ruble
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-s-rosneft-to-adjust-forex-accounting-to-shield-profits-from-weak-ruble/515298.html



 But the good news is that all is well at home on Russia because Doll says so and she confirmed it by talking to herself.

[AkMike]

Even the Mexicans are enjoying a good sing along. 

[lordtiberius]

More bad news for Russia.. on the home front.

Russian Capital Flight Deepens as Entrepreneurs Decamp to London   
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-capital-flight-deepens-as-entrepreneurs-decamp-to-london/515776.html

Russia's Economic Crisis Forces Secret Service FSB to Downsize 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-s-economic-crisis-forces-secret-service-fsb-to-downsize/515756.html

Renault Mothballs Moscow Factory as Russian Car Sales Nosedive 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/renault-mothballs-moscow-factory-as-russian-car-sales-nosedive/515741.html

There Will Be No World War, Russia Is Alone 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/there-will-be-no-world-war-russia-is-alone/515773.html

State Building Contracts Inflated By Up to 40% — Audit Chamber
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/state-building-contracts-inflated-by-up-to-40-audit-chamber/515644.html

Sanctions Cause Leadership Crisis as Foreign Directors Ditch Russian Firms 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/sanctions-cause-leadership-crisis-as-foreign-directors-ditch-russian-firms/510225.html

Ruble Falls Ahead of Minsk Peace Summit 
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/ruble-falls-ahead-of-ukraine-peace-summit-analysts-see-volatile-trading/515739.html


Medvedev Orders Stockpiles of Medicine as Russia's Ruble Slumps
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/medvedev-orders-stockpiles-of-medicine-as-russia-s-ruble-slumps/514114.html

Russia's Rosneft to Adjust Forex Accounting to Shield Profits From Weak Ruble
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-s-rosneft-to-adjust-forex-accounting-to-shield-profits-from-weak-ruble/515298.html



 But the good news is that all is well at home on Russia because Doll says so and she confirmed it by talking to herself.

 


 

[JayH]

News coming thru--

Ukrainian Army  eliminated 87 insurgents and 42 military equipment, incl. 12 tank, 14 missile systems and 16 armoured vehicles


Meanwhile-- the Russians stay consistently untrustworthy--even to their own !!


Thriller "slope": We have 100-200 "two hundred". We do not know that already saw the graves

He said the terrorist leadership "FSC" does not fulfill its obligations to the militants.

http://espreso.tv/news/2015/02/11/boyovyk_quotkosorquot_u_nas_po_100_200_quotdvokhsotykhquot_my_ne_znayemo__scho_vzhe_pylyaty_na_hroby

[AkMike]

More promised broken even to their own terrorists!

 'Gee' we have no more money to pay you or support for the families of the dead terrorists.'

 They are going broke! Bankrupt!

 Stealing money from the pensioners accounts to pay the oligarchs and support the war.
 
Russia cannot afford to continue to deny the rest of the worlds wishes of peace.

[Steamer]

Russia cannot afford to continue to deny the rest of the worlds wishes of peace.

Do you mean the Pax Americana?


Don't be too sure.

[AkMike]

So it's alright to use Nukes in a conventional war to make your point? 

[Steamer]

So it's alright to use Nukes in a conventional war to make your point?

No one is talking about nukes except you.

[AkMike]

Except me and Russia..

 

[Taz]

Russia has several times threatened to use nukes even in a non-nuclear based war. Just do a google search. Last year they threatened. Even lame Newsweek covered it if even a bit late. Putin just brought it up again this week.


http://www.newsweek.com/russia-has-threatened-nuclear-attack-says-ukraine-defence-minister-267842

[fathertime]

Except me and Russia..

It may be a legit threat in this case as Russia is not likely to relent until a good deal is presented...Like it or not we got to be careful not to force escalations to that point, there has to be just the right balance of pressure to end it, without forcing escalation.  Talk is one thing (obligatory lip service), bringing in western weapons will inevitably bring in the western forces, and that will lead to massive casualties. IMO


Fathertime! 

[Steamer]

Except me and Russia..

I'm not speaking to Russia, just you.

[AkMike]

You don't think that the threat of nukes is a legit topic? I'd say that Russia is escalating this invasion many fold by even the threat to the rest of the world.

[Anotherkiwi]

Talk is one thing (obligatory lip service), bringing in western weapons will inevitably bring in the western forces, and that will lead to massive casualties. IMO

There have already been massive casualties, or had you not noticed?  Should Western forces be deployed, there will be more massive casualties on the Russian side, and Putin will no longer be able to weasel his way out of admitting that real Russian troops are partaking in the war.

I realise that Putin is not as internet-savvy as other Russian leaders (e.g. Medvedev), but surely SOMEBODY has told him that all his denials are for naught because of the stupidity of his "volunteers" declaiming their every move on Facebook, VK and Youtube?

[JayH]

There have already been massive casualties, or had you not noticed?  Should Western forces be deployed, there will be more massive casualties on the Russian side, and Putin will no longer be able to weasel his way out of admitting that real Russian troops are partaking in the war.

I realise that Putin is not as internet-savvy as other Russian leaders (e.g. Medvedev), but surely SOMEBODY has told him that all his denials are for naught because of the stupidity of his "volunteers" declaiming their every move on Facebook, VK and Youtube?

AK--  if the west does support Ukraine with defensive weapons (+)   I would not care what Putin does.I hope he sends 50000 troops into Ukraine--the resultant massacre of Russian troops will be humiliating for Russia Putin & Kremlin cronies. If it takes that for the Russian people to wake up and recognise their responsibility in acquiescing Putins actions-  so be it-the sooner the better.

The loss of lives of decent Ukrainians has not bought any sympathy from Russia-- as Russia continues shelling civilian areas and premises-- then the cowards are hiding themselves in civilian areas to prevent the Ukrainians returning fire. No-- I want to see the message driven home to Russians-it seems that there is no other way.

[AkMike]

I agree Jay.
 If and when this is settled there will be huge piles of dust from the cremations on the Russian side (similar to the ones at Dachau) and large graveyards on the Ukrainian side also.
 Russia will suffer for many years because few will forget what they've done.