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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #75 on: April 23, 2018, 04:22:37 PM »
Well here is a Hollywood depiction of a Banya in Soviet times in Georgia, even my Banya experience wasn't nowhere near this full on!!!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLIgHIm2_w]
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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #76 on: April 23, 2018, 04:29:28 PM »
c'mon msmob
you must've been exposed(sorry) to this at some point
every big Russian\Ukrainian 5 star hotel has this
5 star hotel banyas are pretty much guys with their girl friends
and NOT family banyas

i've heard that Irishmen are shy and reserved, it's OK, man...
my wife loves that Pierce Brosnan fella

the beauty of this is the way you work the ambiguity of "banya"

if not the banya?
your recommendation?

Of course we've tried posh hotel 'Banyas' - covered in a 'New Year in Sochi' ( Jan '16 )

I recommend nature ....  the outdoors - not a time limited session...   personally, a nice cove and diving off a yacht with a crew of 2,  is more my style.


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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #77 on: April 23, 2018, 04:33:24 PM »
"ff Khreshchatyk near the Opera House being one (still the same),"

this is true, I totally lucked out in 1996 getting my apartment EXACTLY in this area, without even knowing of the advantages until after I got there and was exploring in the evening

plus could go the opera which I loved, pretty classic fare like "Carmen" but the sets and actresses were lovely and so is the opera house...
AND it's near the giant escalator - SWEET!!!!

after the opera I'd go to "PantaGruel" and have a light meal and a pint of Guiness or two...
Yulia Tymoshenko was once there with her body guards when I was there and we made eye contact
but her guards gave me the "look".... and I backed off

I once took two stunning women with me to a 5 star restaurant in Kyiv, the women told me they could hear people speculating if I had picked up two hookers
even had guys come by and "wink" at me, I guess that's not a "usual" sight, one guy two gals, but it was platonic...

yeah, the favor thing, and "Mr Fixit" gawd I miss those days
and all that I received from grateful women...
bless you...




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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #78 on: April 23, 2018, 04:45:39 PM »
"Well here is a Hollywood depiction of a Banya in Soviet times in Georgia, even my Banya experience wasn't nowhere near this full on!!!"

nor was anyone else's - funny!!!!
looked more like a depiction of a harem pool but with guys added
I guess that's what they think it looked like...

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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #79 on: April 23, 2018, 05:31:44 PM »
"Khreshchatyk near the Opera House being one (still the same),"

this is true, I totally lucked out in 1996 getting my apartment EXACTLY in this area, without even knowing of the advantages until after I got there and was exploring in the evening


The thing is, though, that the women there are by and large looking for a good time, not a husband.  So, for those contemplating meeting women there, know that you have to open your wallet.  Wide.
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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #80 on: April 23, 2018, 06:35:41 PM »
BO
they called me "rich kid" literally...
not all the girls I met on Khreshchatyk were this category...

there's a lot of offices with white collar jobs in the  opera area
GUM, post office, hotels, government offices, banks, etc
in the day-time, you can easily run into an army of young white collar professional women coming to and from work, and they were really “sharp looking”!!!!

then there were the “waifs” young things, students, sweet girls
I felt drawn to these girls, they all had a dark side, some tragedy, loss of a parent
looking for some refuge, emotional support or for just a chance to smile...
or just love from another human being, since they never received it from anyone else
(as well as a rollicking good time, to counteract all the “gray" in kyiv)
me being a stranger and sympathetic
made it easy for me to be their confidant
some of these girls genuinely loved me, and I know I loved them...
I hope they all met someone who loves them the way I love my wife

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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #81 on: April 23, 2018, 07:24:54 PM »
Trench, you need to cultivate a more refined sensibility...
my reason for telling you this
is not to criticize you
but to help YOU avoid criticism
you see we’re ALL PIGS
but some of us have learned to conceal this information...
and as a result, we don’t APPEAR to be pigs
you should examine the value of this idea...

may I ask your background
age what part of UK do you call home?


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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #82 on: April 23, 2018, 08:03:57 PM »
There really are two types of bath houses in Russia/FSR.  The first is the sauna type bath house that is typically set apart from a person's residence and is built of wood to absorb the heat of the steam.

The second type of bath house is the institutional one that is/was a place of coming together, particularly in Soviet times.   It was communal and large.  With sections for bathing, for massage, etc.

One is memorialized in the New Year's classic:  The Irony of Fate (or What I did in the Bath House).
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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #83 on: April 24, 2018, 06:46:40 AM »
Trench, you need to cultivate a more refined sensibility...
my reason for telling you this
is not to criticize you
but to help YOU avoid criticism
you see we’re ALL PIGS
but some of us have learned to conceal this information...
and as a result, we don’t APPEAR to be pigs
you should examine the value of this idea...

may I ask your background
age what part of UK do you call home?

I come from southern England, I'm 40 years old and live in a decent (not social housing) but not millionaire type of area. I earn the usual peasants wage like most of the rest of the UK. I can provide for a family so long as there is no extravagance in spending or in that case the women would have to work. So I have a lifestyle like most of the UK I guess.

The women I meet I of course don't get crude there unless I have known them for a while and know they find it funny too. 
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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #84 on: April 24, 2018, 08:23:00 AM »
you're in your prime then!!!!
it's really difficult hunting Russian Fox without a large budget!
it means you'll have to be more clever than most!

it's easier some time, to get the prey to approach you
than you to find and approach them
have you tried getting some professional quality photos
and putting an add in VK?

I could help you write an appealing biography in Russian if you'd like
serious offer - my mom was born in the UK, so I happen to like you poor buggers






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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #85 on: April 24, 2018, 08:26:27 AM »
I come from southern England, I'm 40 years old and live in a decent (not social housing) but not millionaire type of area. I earn the usual peasants wage like most of the rest of the UK. I can provide for a family so long as there is no extravagance in spending or in that case the women would have to work. So I have a lifestyle like most of the UK I guess.
 
I'd consider 40 to be prime age...but wait another 5-10 years and it is no longer prime.

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I just happened to be browsing about the internet....

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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #86 on: April 24, 2018, 08:34:52 AM »
OMG

A 'dating profile' on VK? - Get real, man !

It's guys like Trench that mean gals hide their profiles  - they're fed up of being hit on.

Is Facebook a dating site ?




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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #87 on: April 24, 2018, 08:40:54 AM »
I'd consider 40 to be prime age...but wait another 5-10 years and it is no longer prime.



What matters is what a lass that might fancy Trench thinks and her age / expectations

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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2018, 08:57:52 AM »
nothing ventured...
nothing gained...

the idea is sound...
run a flag up the flag pole and see who salutes it, this is a pretty efficient way to see who likes your flag...
in the USA, before I went to Ukraine, I tried some 'dating' sites and I got a lot of dates this way...
unfortunately, in Silicon Valley, my "worth" in the dating market, wouldn't allow me to date younger women
I really didn't like women my own age then (40 like you) as a girl friend
but silicon valley had the worse female/male ration in the USA
multi-millionaire's on every corner, so being "modestly" wealthy meant absolutely nothing there
when I first went to Ukraine in 1996, hardly any foreigners then
some of the women I met were "enthralled" by being with a Westerner
all to my advantage...

it makes sense to try as many different ways as possible, what didn't work for someone else
might work for you, because of this phenomenon called "luck"

finding your life partner is one of the most important things you will ever do...
put your best effort into it



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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #89 on: April 24, 2018, 09:31:37 AM »
msmob

there’s always some bad in good people,
perhaps even in you...

the thing about Trench is
at least he is honest and forthright about himself
not a common quality on this board

not all of us are wealthy
or have a devilishly handsome grin AND a strong jaw line

we each have to play the hand we were dealt

do you really want to criticize someone
because he got a dealt a bad hand?

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Re: Musings on Women, Expat Life, and Other Stuff
« Reply #90 on: April 25, 2018, 10:23:12 PM »
OMG

A 'dating profile' on VK? - Get real, man !

It's guys like Trench that mean gals hide their profiles  - they're fed up of being hit on.

Is Facebook a dating site ?

No fb isnt a dating site.
Yet your analogy is a bit off as the huge majority of single people I know have met and date many people off of of it .
Its doubtful that isnt true of similar social media sites.

Yes I understand tinder etc are more popular for that type of thing,but it doesn't mean thousands of people dont find dates on fb or vk.
When single I could and did.
But I do agree it's not the best and takes a bit of just being actively social.
Which frankly is what TC needs to do locally.


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« Reply #91 on: April 25, 2018, 10:28:14 PM »

run a flag up the flag pole and see who salutes it, this is a pretty efficient way to see who likes your flag...



Nationalism seems like a very poor way to pick a partner if you ask me..

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« Reply #92 on: April 25, 2018, 10:49:25 PM »
That's not what he was talking about ...

Krimster loves a bit of inneundo
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« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2018, 03:09:32 AM »

Yet your analogy is a bit off as the huge majority of single people I know have met and date many people off of of it .
Its doubtful that isnt true if similar social media sites.

Perhaps I am speaking for ladies in their late thirties / forties who are fed up with VK being used as a dating site ?

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« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2018, 06:06:28 AM »
you're in your prime then!!!!
it's really difficult hunting Russian Fox without a large budget!
it means you'll have to be more clever than most!

it's easier some time, to get the prey to approach you
than you to find and approach them
have you tried getting some professional quality photos
and putting an add in VK?

I could help you write an appealing biography in Russian if you'd like
serious offer - my mom was born in the UK, so I happen to like you poor buggers

Well I appreciate your offer Krimster :) I'll PM you on this when I get time in the next few days or so if ok with you.

I have a VK profile but there is not exactly a lot happening on it at the moment. I've got a few girls on there who accepted being asked to my adding them through a similar interest. Basically I don't know them but I guess could attempt to strike up a conversation. I would have to Skype with them as they can be from different regions - so back to the same deal as before, essentially visit one, time input without knowing first if they are naturally into you.

I'm wondering how you would work it? Would you look for girls in a particular city so you could visit many? Try and connect with girls of people you actually know on there? etc.
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« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2018, 06:48:35 AM »
Trench

Take ONE piece of advice on board .... you must do what is 'best' for YOU ...

You are no Krimster on the confidence front. It is POINTLESS asking what he would do - it isn't you ... not matter how you wish it so..


IF you have added lasses some time ago on VK- they already lost interest in you - or will think they are plan Bs and Cs ..

Alternatively, they might think you are a daft western guy ready to open his wallet ? ....



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« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2018, 07:24:51 AM »
Perhaps I am speaking for ladies in their late thirties / forties who are fed up with VK being used as a dating site ?

Plenty on fb are fed up with it too?

My point was it doesn't stop fb ftom being a source of a pile of dates with those aged women for my single buddies .

I admit times change fast and other ways to meet dwarfed it quickly but they di still actively meet women that age off of it pretty much weekly.
Whether women are fed up , delete profiles etc doesnt change that ultimately it's a social site,many single women arnt on them to date,but then again really truly why are they there? To only share photos and thoughts with friends?
Lol.  Pretty much the idea if social media broadcasting yourself to the entire world is to be umm.. social.



It's pretty obvious vk is indeed used quite a  it for dating ,and being social is  why many have a profile up,even if they might not readily admit it.
Yes there might also  be many tired of being hit on, and really these are the same ones tired of being hit on in public.
Ah the crosses some of us must bear.


I do understand your point,and doubt it's a great resource for TC, but social media has gone hand in hand with being social,lol which always has a lot of dating involved be it a dance place, a concert, a back yard bbq with 20 friends ,or social media sites.Women get tired of being hit on at all of those too, yet the other percent of them there,went for that very reason.
  If there is one single thing TC needs most ,it is to learn empathy and to be able to stand in the other persons shoes and see their side.
   To do that,since it doesnt seem to come nsturally, he needs more social interaction,
He should chat up  everyone within 50 kilometers ,in any means available.
Looking in the fsu is a crutch.
He will still be limping, butt take it away there is far greater chance to walk straight.?

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« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2018, 07:36:03 AM »
Trench lol
Oh no you might have to skype or viber with an attractive woman!!
It might not be productive or cost effective!
You might never meet her,or  it might not lead to marriage and children.

You poor lad !!! having such a heavy burden as chatting up a beautiful  lass on viber must be taxing.

I hope it doesn't wear you down too much, or cut into your vibrant social calendar.

I'm not trying to be mean,I'm trying to snap you out of this mentality of *what do *i* TC get out of it?*
   You need to relax,  and learn to just simply enjoy interacting with an attractive member of the opposite sex.
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« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2018, 08:39:17 AM »

Whether women are fed up , delete profiles etc doesnt change that ultimately it's a social site,many single women arnt on them to date,but then again really truly why are they there? To only share photos and thoughts with friends?

The  point of FB / VK is 'lost' on me and even single folk who want to be contacted by / contact FRIENDS.. That's people one really knows / knew ?

Personally speaking, many ladies I know on VK, Odnoklassniki, etc have friends only profiles, now - such is the volume of clueless w.guys who think registering a profile will get them dates ?;)

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« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2018, 09:14:28 AM »
The  point of FB / VK is 'lost' on me and even single folk who want to be contacted by / contact FRIENDS.. That's people one really knows / knew ?

Personally speakin,g many ladies I know on VK, Odnoklassniki, etc have friend sonly profiles, now - such is the volume of clueless w.guys who think registering a profile will get them dates ?;)

I think it depends on the mentality of the person. I only use FB for family and on that it can be occasionally handy when other forms of communication become difficult or to show members of a family something all at once. Beyond that I rarely go on there, I have no time for labour intensively constantly clicking 'like' buttons and documentating my life photo by photo. Nor do I have any interest in airing any dirty washing to those that know me or have people request friendship just to be nosy or on seeing my life take issue with it or get jealous. Believe me, you take a holiday somewhere nice, stick up a pic of you enjoying yourself and that pic thend gets interpreted different ways, some people read too much into ithe and think you are libing the high life and get jealous.

Others on the other hand love connecting with all sorts of new people on there even if they start out as complete strangers. Problem for them I think is that not all people have the same outlook like those above. Some are just interested in family, freinds and aquaintances, others like said just nosy or bored, or get jealous, or out for a laugh, etc.

On VK U tend to find some are open abut connecting with strangers and do so, others give the ? 'Do I know you' type of response - they basically are closed to connecting with strangers on there or just don't fancy you. I'm guessing some guys they will give a different response to than others depending on of they fancy a guy or why they think he is contacting them. I think VK is a not as straight forward as dating sites but potentially may drum up better leads in the longer run.
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