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« Reply #1625 on: April 10, 2022, 02:47:29 AM »
Well Boris Johnson rocked up in Kyiv today...bringing a much-needed smile to President Zelensky's face.


The UK is going to supply,among other things,much-needed  new Harpoon  Anti-Ship missile systems and 120  Mastiff  heavily  armoured  patrol vehicles,which  weigh 23 tonnes and carry eight troops and two crew.


Boris is becoming quite Churchillian in this war  :)

Yes it was indeed great to see the news articles of Boris in Kyiv CB, even video footage of him touring the streets of Kyiv with Zelensky. Kyivians met them both and one gave each one a ceramic Cockerel which has become a symbol of unity and struggle against the Russian Invasion. It's great that the UK is taking such a prominent role in helping the fight against Russia I don't think it would have been that possible were we still a part of the EU to be so prominent. Should all garner a lot of good favour for British guys going out there dating I think :D

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« Reply #1626 on: April 10, 2022, 03:49:04 AM »
http://twitter.com/expatua/status/1512701296796700676


Woman tells how Russians were shocked how Ukrainians lived - "They have all houses made of bricks, laptops and Nutella in every house - it can't be,"
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« Reply #1627 on: April 10, 2022, 05:30:25 AM »
British MOD says Russia now desperately trying to bolster its Forces by calling up ex  Military personnel discharged since 2012.


Satellite images show an eight mile column of Russian Orcs approaching Kharkiv from Russia.


That's considerably less than the forty mile column that approached Kyiv at the beginning of the war and shows the scale of Russian losses....so far.

Yes they struggle to recruit soldiers. 
True or false I have read that 60 paratroopers have quit and are facing prosecution now. 
Some attorneys are helping soldiers to find out some procedural ways to not go to the war.
 
A lot of Russian elite military forces have suffered severe losses, probably more than the regulars troops. Conscripts are not useful and are easily defeated. 
 
Ukraine focuses to recruit as many as possible experienced soldiers while the territorial defense performs other tasks (but still very useful for the fight). 
Do you know when the next Ukrainian contingent will be operational? 
I don't feel that the Russian HQ has really drawn the lessons of the five previous weeks for the moment, while Ukrainian forces are fine-tuning their skills and improving their interarm expericence with new technologies.

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« Reply #1628 on: April 10, 2022, 08:18:35 AM »
An interesting article about the defence of Kyiv.

http://www.ft.com/content/e87fdc60-0d5e-4d39-93c6-7cfd22f770e8

Need to pay to read this.  Often time (if I have a subscription to a source) I cut and paste such articles for the benefit of other readers.
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« Reply #1629 on: April 10, 2022, 10:07:42 AM »
I'm really surprised that Ukraine hasn't figured out that they can buy tons of bulk Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer in Rostov
and ship it to Crimea over Boris Rotenberg's "super pooper" bridge
and accidentally blow it up
this would be REAL easy to do...
you'd need a really small crew and budget for this
just sayin...


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« Reply #1630 on: April 10, 2022, 10:54:31 AM »

I'm really surprised that Ukraine hasn't figured out that they can buy tons of bulk Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer in Rostov
and ship it to Crimea over Boris Rotenberg's "super pooper" bridge
and accidentally blow it up
this would be REAL easy to do...
you'd need a really small crew and budget for this
just sayin...

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« Reply #1631 on: April 10, 2022, 02:35:51 PM »
I'm really surprised that Ukraine hasn't figured out that they can buy tons of bulk Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer in Rostov
and ship it to Crimea over Boris Rotenberg's "super pooper" bridge
and accidentally blow it up
this would be REAL easy to do...
you'd need a really small crew and budget for this
just sayin...

Lots of guys trained to do just that in the u.s.
The recent pile of ukranians training here may have got some tips

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« Reply #1632 on: April 10, 2022, 02:38:42 PM »
23-year-old Nazar Nebozhenskyi, who saved 20 fellow soldiers by drawing fire from 3 Russian BTRs to himself and destroying 2 of them, being mortally wounded in the process. Remember his name.

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« Reply #1633 on: April 10, 2022, 02:55:20 PM »
Of bridges being taken out.
Remember Vitalii
Order of the Gold star.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalii_Skakun

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« Reply #1634 on: April 10, 2022, 03:50:54 PM »
It seems that the 8 mile column of Orcs approaching Kharkiv from Russia has been totally destroyed.


Witnesses report a 13 km convoy has been destroyed with 2000 bodies and lots and lots of equipment.


The source is M. Anoctono adviser to the Ukraine Minister of Domestic Affairs 2015-2021.
Just saying it like it is.

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« Reply #1635 on: April 10, 2022, 05:31:31 PM »
It seems that the 8 mile column of Orcs approaching Kharkiv from Russia has been totally destroyed.
Witnesses report a 13 km convoy has been destroyed with 2000 bodies and lots and lots of equipment.
The source is M. Anoctono adviser to the Ukraine Minister of Domestic Affairs 2015-2021.

Google search returns zero concerning this.
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« Reply #1636 on: April 10, 2022, 06:27:38 PM »
ML,

Google is  such a monetized search platform I think it really buries results.
Try dogpile or other sources.

Ukraine live map.on Twitter has references to it.
And the report by the Ukrainian official.

http://t.co/BtPJRLsnII


No idea  how accurate the report is.

They also show Russia took out a s300 antiaircraft unit near mikolaev, so far most of what they show has ultimately been confirmed.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2022, 06:32:17 PM by Jumper1 »

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« Reply #1637 on: April 10, 2022, 06:34:10 PM »
An 8 mile long Russian military convoy with hundreds of vehicles (including armored vehicles, truck towed artillery &amp; support equipment) was reportedly destroyed by Ukrainian forces while moving east of Kharkiv towards Izyum.<a href="http://t.co/4j2dIYv8kP">http://t.co/4j2dIYv8kP</a> <a href="http://t.co/aUt9lTLrwx">pic.twitter.com/aUt9lTLrwx</a></p>&mdash; OSINT UK (@jon96179496) <a href="http://twitter.com/jon96179496/status/1513098372634263553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"
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« Reply #1638 on: April 10, 2022, 10:32:04 PM »
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #1639 on: April 10, 2022, 11:28:28 PM »
ML,

Google is  such a monetized search platform I think it really buries results.
Try dogpile or other sources.

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« Reply #1640 on: April 11, 2022, 05:43:22 AM »
http://twitter.com/jenniferwilton/status/1513396409818656769?s=20&t=ed0gfPw7WvVcRmILkHuSVw
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« Reply #1641 on: April 11, 2022, 05:49:07 AM »

Mariupol is about to fall..

This morning the 36th Separate Marine Brigade of the Ukrainian military defending #Mariupol released a "farewell" message on their Facebook page saying they are running out of ammunition and asking Ukrainians to remember them. [translated]

http://www.facebook.com/36obrmp/posts/1193721624498582
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Dear Ukrainian people.
We are the 36th Marine Brigade named after Rear Admiral Mykhailo Bilynsky, who, without betraying the oath of allegiance in 2014, left the Crimea and continued to perform the task of defending Ukraine with dignity.
We have been defending Mariupol for 47 days since the beginning of the war. We were bombed from planes, we were fired upon from artillery, tanks and other firearms. We defended ourselves with dignity, doing the impossible. But any resources tend to run out.
During the fighting, we were once given 50,122 shells, 20 minutes a few enlaws and starlin Elon Musk - thank you Elon, he escaped many air strikes and still works. We were not given anything more. Without the ability to defend ourselves, the enemy gradually pushed us back to the Azovmash plant, surrounded us with fire and is now trying to destroy us. There was an option to bring reserves to us to strengthen and continue the defense. There were options for the brigade to make a breakthrough and go to their troops. We reported this to OTU East and they started planning the operation. Sodol and Delyatitsky tried to do something, but their senior staffs were busy. We reported about it to the Environmental Protection Agency, they said stay hold, we promised a helicopter that never arrived. We talked to the commander-in-chief who promised to unblock it. We spoke with the Guarantor who guaranteed us either a political or military solution to the situation. For more than a month, the Marines fought without replenishment of ammunition, without food, without water, almost lacking from a puddle and died in packs. The mountain of the wounded is almost half of the brigade. Whose limbs are torn off and can walk back to work. All the infantry were killed and the gunfights were fought by artillerymen, anti-aircraft gunners, communications of the driver and the cook. Even the orchestra. They die but fight. We are gradually coming to an end. Wise generals advise to take ammunition from the enemy. Probably these scoop SUVs are not extinct, so many people will die in vain because of them. There were chances. There were opportunities, but due to the urgency of reporting vertically, they were not implemented. Nobody wants to talk to us anymore because we are written off. Today will probably be the last fight as there is no BC left. Further into hand-to-hand combat. Then for some death, and for some captivity.
Dear Ukrainian people.
I do not know what will happen next, but I beg you to remember the Marines with a kind word, and no matter how things develop further, do not speak ill of the Marines.
They did everything possible and impossible.
Because we are ALWAYS FAITHFUL!
11.04.2022…

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Дорогий український народ.
Ми 36 бригада морської  піхоти  імені контр-адмірала  Михайла Білинського,  незрадивши присяги 2014 вийшли  з Криму  і продовжували гідно виконувати завданя щодо оборони України.
З початку вийни мы вже 47 суток захищаемо Мариуполь. Нас бомбили с самолетов, нас обстреливали с атилерии, танков и других огневых средств. Мы достойно держали оборону делая невозможное. Но любые ресурсы имеют свойство заканчиватся.
За время боевых действий нам один раз передали 50 122 снарядов, 20 мин немного энлавов и старлинк Илон Маск - спаибо Илон, он выдежал множество авиаударов и до сих пор работает. Больше нам не передали ничего. Без бк не имея возможности оборонятся противник постепенно оттеснил нас на завод Азовмаш, окружил сковал огнем и теперь пытается нас уничтожить. Был вариант привести к нам резервы чтоб усилить и продоолжить оборону. Были варианты бригаде совершить прорыв и выйти к своим войскам. Мы докладывали об этом в ОТУ Схід и они начинали планувати операцию. Содоль, Делятицкий пытались чтото сделать, но их старшие штабы заварачивали. Мы докладывали об этом в ООС они говорили тримайтесь мы работаем, обещали вертолет который так и не прилетел. Мы разговаривали с главнокомандующим который пообещал деблокаду. Мы разговаривали с Гарантом который гарантировал нам или политическое или военное решение ситуации. Больше месяца морпехи воевали без пополнения боепривасов, без еды, без воды чуть не ли лакая из лужи и погибали пачками. Гора раненых составляет чуть ли не половина бригады. У кого неоторваны конечности и могут ходить возвращаются в строй. Пехота вся погибла и стрелковые бои ведут артилеристы зенитчики связисты водителя и повора. Даже оркестр. Погибают но борются. Мы постепенно заканчиваемся. Мудрые генералы советуют отбирать боеприпасы у противника. Наверно не вымерли эти савковые паркетники поэтому много народу изза них умрет зря. Были шансы. Были возможности но изза сыкливости докладывать по вертекали они не реалезованы. С нами уже никто нехочет общатся потому что мы списаны. Сегодня будет наверное крайний бой так как бк не осталось. Дальше в рукопашную. Дальше для некоторых смерть, а для некоторых плен.
Дорогой украинский народ.
Я не знаю что будет дальше, но я очень тебя прошу помяни морских пехотинцев добрым словом и независимо как будут развиватся дальше события неговорите плохо про морскую пехоту.
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« Reply #1642 on: April 11, 2022, 06:29:54 AM »
Very sad news for Ukraine and the defenders of Mariupol.


About a week ago President Zelensky suggested they withdraw but they said no because they refused to leave their wounded behind.


Very disappointing that they felt abandoned and forgotten about by their senior Command. :(
Just saying it like it is.

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« Reply #1643 on: April 11, 2022, 07:28:53 AM »
Very sad news for Ukraine and the defenders of Mariupol.


About a week ago President Zelensky suggested they withdraw but they said no because they refused to leave their wounded behind.


Very disappointing that they felt abandoned and forgotten about by their senior Command. :(
Commander-in-Chief of #ZSU Valery Zaluzhny commented on the situation in #Mariupol.

"The defense of Mariupol continues. Communication with the units that heroically hold the city is stable and maintained. We are doing everything possible and impossible to win and save lives."
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« Reply #1644 on: April 11, 2022, 07:59:15 AM »
Seems that the 160 left of them surrendered at the Azovstal Plant this morning.


Throwing rubble/rocks at the Russians really wasn't much of an option.


Hopefully they will be treated with the respect they deserve.
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Just saying it like it is.

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« Reply #1645 on: April 11, 2022, 08:56:00 AM »
In latest news (April 11, 2022) I could find in dogpile search indicated zero about destruction of any Russian convoy near Kharkiv.

http://www.laprensalatina.com/at-least-11-civilians-killed-14-wounded-in-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv/
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« Reply #1646 on: April 11, 2022, 08:59:27 AM »
Wife and I seriously don't understand why Ukraine military cannot move south and attack the Russians surrounding Mariupol.
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« Reply #1647 on: April 11, 2022, 09:07:52 AM »
In latest news (April 11, 2022) I could find in dogpile search indicated zero about destruction of any Russian convoy near Kharkiv.

http://www.laprensalatina.com/at-least-11-civilians-killed-14-wounded-in-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv/


It seems odd that there have been no phone videos of the "destroyed" convoy by now.


Such a blow to the Russian forces would surely have been gloated on by the Ukrainian forces.


Hopefully it wasn't misinformation from the people concerned...i don't see what they've gained from it if so.
Just saying it like it is.

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« Reply #1648 on: April 11, 2022, 09:12:59 AM »
In latest news (April 11, 2022) I could find in dogpile search indicated zero about destruction of any Russian convoy near Kharkiv.

http://www.laprensalatina.com/at-least-11-civilians-killed-14-wounded-in-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv/

The Twitter tweets  I posted links to regarding the various reports of the convoys destruction ,including the Ukrainian official (on a Ukrainian gov Twitter accout)
We're all found on dogpile  yesterday evening near the top of the search list.

There was zero mention of those on Google  using the same search terms

Im.not saying to utilize dogpile only either, was just suggesting one better alternative to just using Google which  will severaly limit your resources.

I also don't know your specific search words,nor do I say the convoy was destroyed.
I will say the sources have been reasonably accurate throughout this though I highly doubt the 2000 casuality number in a convoy ambush attack.


« Last Edit: April 11, 2022, 09:35:19 AM by Jumper1 »

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« Reply #1649 on: April 11, 2022, 09:18:49 AM »
Wife and I seriously don't understand why Ukraine military cannot move south and attack the Russians surrounding Mariupol.


The Canadian guy,who's fighting in the Kherson region,covered this.


"it is currently impossible to de-blockade Mariupol.Our troops will be sitting ducks in the Steppes ,under Air-strikes from Rostov and Crimea."


This is one of the reasons why the Ukrainians are desperately asking NATO to close the skies.
Just saying it like it is.

 

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