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Title: Age Difference
Post by: Dell on August 12, 2019, 06:34:04 AM
Greeting all,

I hope this finds you guys well. I'm back after a hiatus from this endeavor. I was just dating some women locally, nothing serious just having fun. I have been talking with a few women for a little now and we are at that point of either I need to visit or walk away. One of them is a lot younger than me. My question to the group is does anyone have experience dating someone that's 15 years younger over a long period of time? If so what were some of the challenges? I've never perused or excepted advances from a woman that was 10 younger than me in the past. I've always felt it was too much of an age difference and that we would not be compatible in the long run.

I little back story, She got a notification that I viewed her profile and she sent me a message saying hi. I let her know that I was not in her age demographic, that she posted on her page. She responded saying ohh.. you're not but I don't mind because you look very good looking. We get along very well and talk very day.  I do have some trepidation though and have raised these concerns with her. But she wants to meet and see if we have chemistry.

I'm 44 and she is 29.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: jone on August 12, 2019, 07:00:34 AM
I have dated women who are fifteen years younger than me.   After a certain period of time in a woman's life, she is very interested in having children and stability.   However,  I am curious to know what type of method you used to 'meet' this woman.   Please elaborate.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: 2tallbill on August 12, 2019, 07:20:17 AM

My question to the group is does anyone have experience dating
someone that's 15 years younger over a long period of time?

If so what were some of the challenges? I've never perused or
excepted advances from a woman that was 10 younger than me
in the past. I've always felt it was too much of an age difference
and that we would not be compatible in the long run.

But she wants to meet and see if we have chemistry.

I'm 44 and she is 29.

My advice is to get on a plane and see for yourself. There is a good
chance that she will want a child or another child.

Angel Eyes is 13 years younger than myself. We don't really have
any age difference related problems or arguments.

 

Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Dell on August 12, 2019, 08:08:12 AM
I have dated women who are fifteen years younger than me.   After a certain period of time in a woman's life, she is very interested in having children and stability.   However,  I am curious to know what type of method you used to 'meet' this woman.   Please elaborate.

She does want kids, which I'm fine with having. I met her through dmnotify website.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Dell on August 12, 2019, 08:15:16 AM
My advice is to get on a plane and see for yourself.

 I think this will be a smart choice. Either we will have chemistry or not, and until I get my feet on the ground it's a guessing game.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: tfcrew on August 12, 2019, 05:29:57 PM
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=5714.msg102178#msg102178
Ken C was one of the RWD pioneers. His thread above was one of the extensive ones.
Now I believe he had broken up with his Russian wife and re-married with an Asian lady.
Try the search format for other threads....
Cheers
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: witchdoctor on August 12, 2019, 07:41:42 PM
Well if you go by the age of the girls I was marrying before and after my wife. But let's just consider the ones since my wife which were 18/21 24 + 30.  I am. sixty and my stepmother is 2 years older and married to my dad for over 30 years.
age difference is 27 years.  I asked my dad if having sex what some of the strenuousif not dangerous ,  he said " Wel if she dies she dies!"  Lol
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: jone on August 12, 2019, 10:19:39 PM
Well if you go by the age of the girls I was marrying before and after my wife. But let's just consider the ones since my wife which were 18/21 24 + 30.  I am. sixty and my stepmother is 2 years older and married to my dad for over 30 years.
age difference is 27 years.  I asked my dad if having sex what some of the strenuousif not dangerous ,  he said " Wel if she dies she dies!"  Lol

Reminds me of this joke that my uncle used to tell:

This rich old guy marries an Anna Nicole Smith type.   You get the imagery.   She thinks to herself that all she has to do is show up on her wedding night and he'll keel over from all of the excitement and she winds up with all of his money.

On the wedding night she carefully arranges herself to give maximum visual and sensual impact.  A couple of minutes later, he walks in, stark naked, with the exception of a rubber, ear plugs and a nose plug.

She looks at him and blurts out, 'what would cause you to wear ear plugs and a nose plug on our wedding night.   He says, 'My Dear:   I can't stand the smell of burning rubber or the sound of a woman screaming.'
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Gator on August 13, 2019, 05:52:19 AM
.... my stepmother is 2 years older and married to my dad for over 30 years.
age difference is 27 years.  I asked my dad if having sex what some of the strenuousif not dangerous ,  he said " Wel if she dies she dies!"  Lol

 :ROFL:

Your Dad reminds me of Ronald Reagan. 


Welcome back!  It's been longer than a coon's age.   

I am Bucky from the old days at RWG, joining there in 2002.    Stewart sold RWG, supposedly  to a company in the RW agency business.  New moderators and definitely a pro-agency tilt.  The new team "dismembered" me, even preventing me from logging in.  RWG soon faded away to nothing.     I came here, following others from RWG (JB, et al), almost all of whom have   
been inactive for years. 

I checked your posts and see that you have bounced in and out since June.  Splendid that CaptB and you have been in touch. 

 
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  Well if you go by the age of the girls I was marrying before and after my wife. But let's just consider the ones since my wife which were 18/21 24 + 30.   

I am confused.  Three wives?!   No, four.....?   Maybe these are not your wives, but the wives of men who used your agency? 


Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: c5h on August 14, 2019, 06:35:36 AM
Greeting all,

I hope this finds you guys well. I'm back after a hiatus from this endeavor. I was just dating some women locally, nothing serious just having fun. I have been talking with a few women for a little now and we are at that point of either I need to visit or walk away. One of them is a lot younger than me. My question to the group is does anyone have experience dating someone that's 15 years younger over a long period of time? If so what were some of the challenges? I've never perused or excepted advances from a woman that was 10 younger than me in the past. I've always felt it was too much of an age difference and that we would not be compatible in the long run.

I little back story, She got a notification that I viewed her profile and she sent me a message saying hi. I let her know that I was not in her age demographic, that she posted on her page. She responded saying ohh.. you're not but I don't mind because you look very good looking. We get along very well and talk very day.  I do have some trepidation though and have raised these concerns with her. But she wants to meet and see if we have chemistry.

I'm 44 and she is 29.

I'm married now but when I was 39 I met two Kyiv area girls ~17yrs old and blew them off thinking it can't work.  Still in touch and we chat every now an then, they both would have been fine.  The one I married is great (9yrs under) but I feel like she is socially older than me, I want to hit the clubs and she wants romantic evenings at home.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: ML on August 14, 2019, 07:15:18 AM
Greeting all,

I hope this finds you guys well. I'm back after a hiatus from this endeavor.

Dell, didn't you marry Tootsie who used to participate on these discussion boards ?
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: msmob on August 14, 2019, 10:16:27 AM
I'm married now but when I was 39 I met two Kyiv area girls ~17yrs old and blew them off thinking it can't work.  Still in touch and we chat every now an then, they both would have been fine.  The one I married is great (9yrs under) but I feel like she is socially older than me, I want to hit the clubs and she wants romantic evenings at home.

Hmm, sorry...

but what right -minded parent would be happy / agree to a union with a 39 year old guy ? ..

FAR too young 

Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: CaptB on August 14, 2019, 01:02:17 PM
Witchdoctor,


I sent you a PM.


Capt B
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: southernX on August 14, 2019, 05:33:12 PM
dell

get on a plane  ;)

at this  time in your life [44] the 15 years age gap  liky wont make a big difference , at 29 she may well be very mature and can settle into a solid relationship , and children  are  a bond between you especially when you both desire them

you wont know if you dont go  ;) and she seems to be ok so far with investigating the possibility of more

SX

Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Dell on August 14, 2019, 10:27:46 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone it's greatly appreciated!


Dell, didn't you marry Tootsie who used to participate on these discussion boards ?

That's not me.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Dell on August 14, 2019, 10:31:01 PM
dell

get on a plane  ;)

at this  time in your life [44] the 15 years age gap  liky wont make a big difference , at 29 she may well be very mature and can settle into a solid relationship , and children  are  a bond between you especially when you both desire them

you wont know if you dont go  ;) and she seems to be ok so far with investigating the possibility of more

SX


She seems more mature than me in some aspects. 😂 We have made arrangements to meet. I will keep you guys posted to how the meeting goes.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: tfcrew on August 15, 2019, 06:14:33 AM
Dell, didn't you marry Tootsie who used to participate on these discussion boards ?
Strange..I remember Tootsie but in a member search, there are no posts listed.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: witchdoctor on August 19, 2019, 06:35:39 AM
Hey everyone, both those who are oldtimers (and I mean REAL old timers) and Newbies.  I see things both haven't changed and changed a lot!  I kind of think Eastern European countries opening their borders has made it easy, to easy, and more complicated. More scammers, and not just Boris and Yuri but REAL women whose occupation is fleecing Westerners.  Made it easier on the tours too since without having to get a visa, someone from England could pay 47 dollars for a cheap flight to Kiev and attend a social that night. (it costs 4 or 500 dollars to just attend the social, so you do not have to sign up for a full tour etc.  Kiev is the hottest sex tourist destination currently due to the above and continued poor economy.  There were sharks in the water 15 years ago ,but now it is feeding frenzy and Westerners are the harpooned whale!
With all the changes however the same rules still apply and it is not age difference...didn't we have a list like the ten commandments of searching for a foreign bride?  Lets dredge up the standard commandments because the men searching today need it even more...not that they will listen BUT?
I have beenv contributing to another board called nofuckingway.com ; I saw it on youtube and couldn't resist.  May have some agency trolls but no one on the board is even close to marrying!  Not one of them has gone anywhere but Ukraine.  I have tried to give advice but am kind of a lone voice in the wilderness.  It is run by a guy with the nom de plume of Styker from New Zealand..he has not succeeded either and he is on youtube under "I'm with Cupid".  I have no association with them and in fact have never been to Ukraine, can legitimately extrapolate.
Worth a look , if for no other reason than laughs and shaking your head in confusion.  I think I am the only one who has travelled the road! If I were in the market I don't think it would be in Ukraine, but with experience I could probably navigate the mine field.
Later Guys and ?girls?
Witchdoctor
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: scarface816 on October 09, 2019, 01:35:24 PM
Hello Witch. I took a look at the site you mentioned and there are quite a few guys on there that have actually traveled to Ukraine. And some to Russia. Some have traveled many times.

I agree there are some clueless guys on there like here. But the site also seems very new and does not have a large group of contributors.

Nothing near the size of this one.

But I also saw some guys trying to give honest advice that has traveled. There does seem to be a bent toward agencies though.

Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: calmissile on October 09, 2019, 09:37:18 PM
It seems like its been a few years since this topic was heavily debated here on the forum.  Since we a large age gap, I thought I would offer some updated opinions on the topic after being married for about 6 years.

First, both parties need to decide what their objectives are.  People are different with different needs/wants.  The age of both parties will influence their objectives as they look forward to a future together.  Whether we like it or not, both are going to look at it in a selfish perspective.   What does each party want?

In my case, I was middle aged had been married twice and had been financially cleaned out in the first divorce.  When I started the FSU adventure, I was well settled, financially secure and had a nice larger home.  In addition I had all the toys I wanted for my hobbies.  The two requirements that had to be met for me to consider another marriage were 1. I wanted to raise a child, so this meant a woman that was divorced or widowed that had a preteen child.  2.  I wanted an attractive, intelligent woman as my mate.

Being older it amounted to this rather crude tradeoff.  Do I want to marry a woman my age that can barely get around, has no income to contribute to the family and not be physically attractive to me or better to remain single and not have the day to day companionship of marriage.   In addition she is not  likely to have a preteen child for me to help raising.

I also see the other side.  Why would a younger woman want to marry some broken down old man that cannot support the family and not be physically attractive to her.  These two competing characteristics make it much harder to find compatible of partners with a large age gap.

Nevertheless, it is possible.  Perhaps not in the USA, but the FSU has different cultural norms that increase the odds.  While I have read many posts that indicate that many FSU women claim that age difference is not important.  This leaves the man to determine whether the statement is genuine or someone desperate to relocate to a different country.  This is one of the most difficult but most important puzzles to solve.  Is she genuine.  Asking a lot of difficult questions can ferret out the answer over time.

Asking your potential mate the tough questions is so important!  For example, when asking my current wife what were her requirements for a husband, she seemed quite honest.  She wanted a good father for her 4 year old daughter.  She did not care where on earth we lived but wanted to be a tight knit family.  She also demonstrated that she was intelligent and well educated.  Dual master degrees and ran a successful business in Kiev for 12 years with about 60 employees.   When we got married (in Kiev) she was working one step below the CFO for a large food wholesaler.  When she announced she was getting married and leaving the country, the CEO offered her the CFO job if she would stay.  The current CFO wanted to retire.

All in all, it seemed that I found a mate whereby we met each others requirements.  It still is not easy and do not want to imply that it is.  I had a previous engagement with a UA woman and it led right up to the visa before she decided she did not want to move.  An Aerospace Engineer that does not speak the language has about a zero chance of finding a decent job in UA so we broke up.

No matter the age difference there are still a lot of risks in finding the right partner.  Dating in the US, allows two people to either live together and get to know each other much better than when you go to a different country and make assumptions based on short term visits.  Even with us, there were a lot of surprises that did not appear until long after we were first married.  Fortunately, they were not severe enough to destroy the marrage.  I think being older and mellowing out probably helped in my case.

My approach to dating in UA was different than most folks.  I went to Ukraine not only to look for a wife but to learn the history and culture of the country.  The trips were sometimes weeks long and I was fortunate to meet families that invited me to stay with them and learn the culture, explore the sites I wanted to see and meet potential mates.  This is a HUGE advantage over the fly over for a date method.  It is also important to understand the culture because your mate was raised with a certain set of values and traditions and even after being relocated she is not going to like having her husband ignore or belittle her over the differences.  Something to remember when dating FSUW.

I am hesitant to make generalities because there are always some posters that try to rip them apart, but there are a couple that  might be noteworthy to newbies.

1.  In all cases of women I dated in UA, plus the one I was engaged to, plus my current wife...... They do not address death and the future the way we do in the US.  To explain, whenever I would ask about "What are you going to do when I die, which is likely prior to your death?   It is something they do not want to talk about and have an attitude that they will address it when it happens.  They do not plan for it and do not want to talk about it.  I found that it is not only between the spouses but also their attitude toward their own family including parents.  It seemed very strange to me, since we do so much planning with wills, etc in the USA but it is what it is.  As a result,   She has never asked about my will or if she will inherit anything.  Since my properties and small wealth is all separate properly, I have the option of doing whatever I want to happen to it.  My current attitude is that of some of the wealthy that have given everything to their current wife/eye candy/etc.  If she remains faithful and keeps me relatively happy, she and her daughter can have everything I own when I pass.  She will have earned it.  :)

2.  UA women are extremely protective of their children.  Looking back I have to chuckle about how things started out when they arrived.  I wanted to take Lisa to the store with me to buy some groceries and have a little one on one time together.  She did not want her to leave the house with me without her.  It took a few weeks to gain the trust, but it was kind of funny since we had spent a lot of time together in Kiev before we married.  Nevertheless, it seemed to be a cultural thing I had to adjust to.  Wasn't long before the over-protection was non existent.

Lastly, the most important thing that does not particularly pertain to age difference is the going to the foreign country and learning the culture before diving into serious dating and marriage.  I suspect my adventure probably cost around $30K before the wedding.  It is not cheap to do it right and minimize the risks.  Some guys have got lucky and found a wife on the first visit, but was not my case.

Any newbies wanting to read my trip reports can find them below.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=15123.0
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=18377.0

Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: jone on October 09, 2019, 10:43:11 PM
Speaking of your former loves, what ever happened to Irina?
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Sailor291 on October 10, 2019, 08:34:40 AM
I have been married to my UW for over 20 years, she is 15 years younger than me, was 29 when we got married.  I adopted her daughter as mine, she considers me her father and we now have a grand daughter that we both adore.  So, basically i am saying that in my case, the age difference did not matter at all. 
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: ML on October 14, 2019, 09:14:26 AM
Good write up Doug.

I have been living full time with my FSU wife now for over 8 years.
We have a significant age difference.
Has been zero problem, so far.

One note: There has been virtually no problems related to cultural differences at all.
And, in fact, it seems cultural differences hardly exist, despite wife being raised in very traditional Ukrainian home in western Ukraine.

Sure, she does a lot of cooking stuff on many 'special' Ukrainian days.  But that is not much different from the 'special' days that AW cook for here in USA.

Wife prefers company of AW here as compared to UW that she knows here.
So maybe she was a 'closet' American her entire life and that explains why no significant cultural differences.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: jone on October 14, 2019, 09:53:51 AM
Good write up Doug.

I have been living full time with my FSU wife now for over 8 years.
We have a significant age difference.
Has been zero problem, so far.

One note: There has been virtually no problems related to cultural differences at all.
And, in fact, it seems cultural differences hardly exist, despite wife being raised in very traditional Ukrainian home in western Ukraine.

Sure, she does a lot of cooking stuff on many 'special' Ukrainian days.  But that is not much different from the 'special' days that AW cook for here in USA.

Wife prefers company of AW here as compared to UW that she knows here.
So maybe she was a 'closet' American her entire life and that explains why no significant cultural differences.

She loves those Midwesterners Buddy!

It's like the work ethic at home only on steroids.   Most Ukrainians fit right in with the Midwestern types.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Shadow on October 17, 2019, 02:01:34 PM
At 29 her biological alarm is screaming for kids. Be sure you are not just a donor.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Patagonie on October 28, 2019, 02:53:50 PM
We had a 19 age difference with my ex wife. Never had been a problem.
THe main problem is what goals people have really in mind ?That's a concern. With such difference of age you have to be in shape also and your spirit also should be open and vivid.

Also, important, half of the spouses are not faithful enough to keep their marriage on the long term. You have to work on you to keep your marriage and priorize it over other any men or women. Faithfulness is still one of the pillar of a couple in our societies.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Trenchcoat on October 28, 2019, 05:13:56 PM
Hi Dell, I would say it depends and as 2tallbill would says get in a plane and find out. The more experience you get the more you know what you might be dealing with best time if she turns out not to be the one.

She might well just want kids desperately and finds you handsome. At 29 if she hasn't had kids then it could be on her mind. If you can support a family then you could have more going for you then the local guys that are left around.

I've briefly dated a girl with a 13 year age gap, she was in her mid twenties, at that age you can find them not mature enough, late twenties probably mature enough though of course these are generalisations.

If she is going to have kids then before 35 makes it easier as after that it apparently gets harder.

I think what Pat says in terms of keeping yourself in shape and also appearance wise good. Let's face it a guy knocking onto his mid forties well unless he's a Hollywood star time is no doubt starting to take its toll.

The 13 year age gap was more than enough for me, much more and I think it would have been embarrassing. There's nothing like a real young girl to make you feel your age. I'm early forties at the moment but I wouldn't generally go for a girl that young or younger again without being real in shape (i.e no belly flab, not even just a little bit) and some slight facial fillers or similar. I'm not real old looking, my hair is not greying, receeding, etc but for anyone to deny they don't look their age at our ages without a bit of no surgical intervention is just deluding themselves.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: msmob on October 29, 2019, 04:39:50 AM
Trench,

You at at your silly, unthinking 'generalisations - AGAIN ..

When I was in my late forties, I had all my hair and teeth and my beach body was as good as most early twenties guys ...   

Many more people are aware of looking after themselves and reap the rewards.

Whether one likes it - or not - on entering one's fifties most of start to show old age in many facets and someone 10 , 20 or thirty years  years younger will notice...


Some couples have a bond that makes these differences irrelevant ..  IF you have kids and you remember some of the things you did decades ago - that they are doing and you know might be physically impossible, now - you'd realise that those managing big age gaps are outliers



Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: GenMish on October 29, 2019, 05:06:35 AM
When I went 26 plus years ago, I befriended about 8 of the men that used the same agency. There was no good sources of info on FSU women, so we relied on each other. 20 year age gaps were very possible. More than 20 years were not. (Caveat, NOBODY was looking for a 30 plus yr old woman) A 39 yr old WM married a 19 yr old FSUW, and they were happy. They divorced after about 12 years because HE had a wondering eye. She was a good wife.

imo-By far the best prospects were the FSU women graduating from college. If I was 40 or below, I would go back in a heartbeat and do it again by getting a 22 yr old. Mid 50s now after a 23 yr marriage to a FSU lady, I will stay with trips to Asia where 30 year age gaps are acceptable, and often preferred. If I remember Trech is late 30s, I think he has a chance at a 20-25 yr old.
I remain with my conviction, investing in a FSUW over 35 is plain stupid, especially if she has kids
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: msmob on October 29, 2019, 05:47:41 AM

I remain with my conviction, investing in a FSUW over 35 is plain stupid, especially if she has kids

I can think of 10s of happily married guys who must be scratching their heads in amazement at THAT gem

I was 48 when I married a 38 year old RU lady with a near 18 year old son .. 
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Nightwish on October 29, 2019, 07:08:36 AM
I can think of 10s of happily married guys who must be scratching their heads in amazement at THAT gem

I was 48 when I married a 38 year old RU lady with a near 18 year old son ..

And that is such a happy story to tell? You are still Happily married I take it then?

Using your failed marriage to contradict the very point GenMish was trying to make (how ever wrong I personally think that point is), only you could do that..   :cluebat:

Why don't you just stay silent when you have nothing to better to say? You don't HAVE to reply to every thread on this forum ya know
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: msmob on October 29, 2019, 08:03:25 AM
I should have realised leaving out the fact that we are no longer married might be raised as an 'objection' by someone that should read  the 'advice' in their own scribes..
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Davo on October 29, 2019, 04:23:11 PM

I remain with my conviction, investing in a FSUW over 35 is plain stupid, especially if she has kids

I think everyone has different needs in a relationship. I’m looking for a woman the same age as me (early 40’s) with a child. I have several reasons for this. First I’ve watched my Grandmother struggle with loneliness for the past 25 years. My grandfather was 17 years older and died 10 years before he should have. My grandmother could possibly live for another 15 years and I would
never want to put someone thorough what I’ve seen happen to her, if I could help it.

Secondly I have 4 kids (2 adult children) and a big 5 bedroom house. I would love to have another child at home in the 10-14 age range.

Lastly,  and this is my insecurities stemming from living with a serial cheater.... I read a report on a survey a few years ago that claimed infidelity rates for long term marriages / relationships are as high as 70% in some western countries and one of the contributing factors was large age gaps. At 40 a woman was something like 50% more likely to have an exit affair if her husband was over 10 years older, but obviously other factors in the relationship also come in to play.

After saying all that I’m back in a casual relationship with the first woman I met after my divorce and she’s 11 years younger than me. We are each other’s default relationship when we are both single and actually get on very well, despite only seeing each other several times a month due to her living in another state now.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: krimster2 on October 29, 2019, 08:45:34 PM
my wife is 15 year younger than me
we've been married 20 years...
the age gap is a 100% NON-ISSUE....

culture gap?
definitely!

BUT...
I find living with Russian women to be quite agreeable for me personally...

first...
they are EXCELLENT domestic goddesses...
and will keep a country gentleman's household impeccably clean!
AND fulfill all general culinary requirements to a reasonable degree as well...

this will provide the happy bachelor with a significant savings in monthly house hold cleaning as well as catering costs
village girls will also be able to do a portion of the gardening, which will further boosting your cost savings!!!

AND...
the sex is a FREEBIE!!!!
icing on the house cleaning and catering cake!!!!

I didn't marry a Russian woman!!!
hell NO...
I went there and I took one prisoner, and made her MY SLAVE and brought her back to the USA as my trophy!!!
hahahahahaha!!!

you guys can keep your "love" and I'll keep my Russian slaves...
hahahahaha!

Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Gator on October 30, 2019, 09:02:10 AM


culture gap?
definitely!

BUT...
I find living with Russian women to be quite agreeable for me personally...

first...
they are EXCELLENT domestic goddesses...
and will keep a country gentleman's household impeccably clean!

They go overboard.  After years of bachelor life, we had conflicts upon her arrival.   I compromised 90% of the gap, and she moved 10%.   Still every week I receive verbal reminders.  There are a couple of signs posted above the door such as 'clean shoes,' 'wash hands,' etc.   My saving grace is that the teenage stepson is more untidy than me. 
 

I have friends in Chester County outside Philadelphia who enjoy the equestrian life and read Town & Country.  Afterwards they wear their riding breeches and boots inside the home with the aroma of horse sweat while having a cocktail.  Of course the Jack Russells and other dogs have a free run in and out of house.  My wife was in shock. 


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AND fulfill all general culinary requirements to a reasonable degree as well...

Yes, very healthy too.  My wife steams, no oil. 

If you want rare meat, you must cook it yourself.  My stepdaughter now orders medium rare at restaurants, and my wife mutters something to her with the word "krasny."  The same with collard greens and some other dishes. 
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: ML on October 31, 2019, 12:55:34 PM
If you want rare meat, you must cook it yourself.  My stepdaughter now orders medium rare at restaurants, and my wife mutters something to her with the word "krasny."  The same with collard greens and some other dishes.

Most all FSU gals I was with and FSU business men were aghast at idea of anything but well done for meats.  Of course that completely ruins the taste sensation of steaks.

My now wife was firmly in that category, but she is willing to try whatever I suggested.
She, of course, did not believe me when I told her the red liquid in steaks was not blood.

So I sent her address of several websites that discuss the issue . . . such as the following:

http://nypost.com/2017/05/18/that-red-juice-oozing-out-of-your-steak-isnt-blood/

And last week when we were out for steaks on her birthday . . . she quickly stated . . . medium rare.  Typically I had ordered for both of us (she is OK with that), but she beat me to it this time.
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: Faux Pas on November 01, 2019, 09:09:25 AM
Most all FSU gals I was with and FSU business men were aghast at idea of anything but well done for meats.  Of course that completely ruins the taste sensation of steaks.

My now wife was firmly in that category, but she is willing to try whatever I suggested.
She, of course, did not believe me when I told her the red liquid in steaks was not blood.


My wife was of the same mentality. Steak well done and dry. I started slipping her some done and juicy and she found out she liked it much more to the point dry was no longer acceptable. Done and juicy is a challenge often but doable. Many times it would have some pink and I'd put it back on. After a while I'd mumble about putting it back on and she'd say leave it as it is and she would eat it and like it but says she still prefers juicy and done. For some reason when I cook tri-tip (which I refuse to cook no more than medium 130-135) it's bright pink top to bottom. I've cook a filet to her perfection at the same time and she was on the tri-tip like a duck on a junebug ignoring the filet. I think she's broken
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: GenMish on November 02, 2019, 05:39:48 AM
My wife was of the same mentality. Steak well done and dry. I started slipping her some done and juicy and she found out she liked it much more to the point dry was no longer acceptable. Done and juicy is a challenge often but doable. Many times it would have some pink and I'd put it back on. After a while I'd mumble about putting it back on and she'd say leave it as it is and she would eat it and like it but says she still prefers juicy and done. For some reason when I cook tri-tip (which I refuse to cook no more than medium 130-135) it's bright pink top to bottom. I've cook a filet to her perfection at the same time and she was on the tri-tip like a duck on a junebug ignoring the filet. I think she's broken


I remember those days, my Russian wife wouldn't eat steak until it was a Hockey Puck. About 15 years in, she acquired a taste for Lamb cooked medium, then she slowly moved to Medium well for Steak

Here is another oddity, she only eats meat in 4 oz portions. No matter how perfect it is, she just eats 4 ozs. Probably why she is still only 115 lbs
Title: Re: Age Difference
Post by: msmob on November 02, 2019, 06:18:42 AM
115 ibs ...? That's positively 'obese' ;)

My former wife is 164cm and weighs 46Kg, SC weighs the same and is sl.shorter ( c. 100 lbs)

The latter only eats Lamb, once in a blue moon and 't'other eats pinkish meat - no problem at all..

They are ( admittedly) outliers - as most FSU W I've met think my cooking isn't 'cooked', yet !

We are allowed to 'train' them as they 'train' us  :rolleyes: