Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??

[Chelseaboy]

I'd like to know of any Anastasia girls in their twenties,that actually married a foreign guy in his fifties within the last five years,let alone if the said marriages lasted five years.
I remember Vinnvinny saying he'd personally looked at the wedding photo's in the Odessa agencies,on one of his trips there,and he saw no evidence of Ukrainian hotties in their twenties,which Anastasia is full of,marrying foreign men,and certainly not foreign men 50 or older.

[Sophocles]

I also kind of doubt that they are getting paid to chat because if so, they wouldn't mind sexually explicit chat, yet many do.

1. Local agencies offer the Anastasia ladies (AL) the possibility of getting paid to chat. It is up to the "ladies" to accept or refuse the offer.

2. It is up to the "gentlemen" if they want to chat-and-pay; it is their free choice, and hence the AL may think they are doing nothing wrong.

3. Most of the AL are quite decent and it is perfectly normal that they would not want to enter into sexually explicit talk with strangers. They would prefer to talk with more decent guys instead.

4. If an AL initiates a chat with you and then, on receiving your e-mail address, refuses to write to you, this behaviour indicates she has accepted the money offer from the agency: she is interested in the chat per se, not in the man she is chatting with. Another way to test her is to suddenly turn on the camera (if there is one) and see how bored she looks; she may even be talking on the phone while chatting with her "darling".

If the AL doesn't have a webcam, it may be the case that she is not doing the chat herself; but this is another problem.

[Harrydubois]

Everyone has been writing some different truth: there are no girls, some Anastasia employee writes the letters; there are girls, but they just want dinner; the girls just want a green card.

I think the truth is a little more complicated.

Anastasia is a blend of real marriage agency, escort service and sex chat site. Once you've gotten that clarified, then you can make the decision to take out your credit card or not.

[Chelseaboy]

Yes,you can find a potential wife on Anastasia.
However,you need to concentrate on women 35 and over,especially if she's got children,because then she has very few options among local men.Of course she can still be a green card seeker.
Unlike western men,Ukrainian men are very reluctant to take on another mans kids,so they'll date,and have sex,with the women above,but it's highly unlikely they'll marry them.

[Harrydubois]

Right, I think some segment of Anastasia is a real marriage agency. One good question however might be - why fly  7,000 miles to find that nice lady with the kids? Go on match.com and drive probably 20 miles to meet her. And she'll speak English.

[Chelseaboy]

The majority of men looking for a wife in the FSU are in their 40/50's..
So,for example,a man of 50,who's decent-looking,charming,in good shape physically and financially, can potentially find a very attractive,slim,feminine,well-educated wife of 35 at a push in the FSU,especially if she has one or more children.
In the west his options are rather more limited,with many of the women overweight/out of shape,and probably at least 45 years old.
Of course if that man is seriously wealthy,then he'd have more options in the west,but those kind of men tend not to look for a wife in the FSU,and if they did they would certainly appeal more to the under 35's as well in Ukraine,although probably more for financial gain than anything else,which is where the green card seekers come in to the equation.

[Harrydubois]

Maybe so, but there are plenty of lonely ladies in the US however.

[acrzybear]

Maybe so, but there are plenty of lonely ladies in the US however.

Then forget about your fantasy of the smokinhotkova and stick with the women in the U.S  If you're not smart enough to seperate the wheat fom the chaff, then this endeavor is not for you. 
 

[Harrydubois]

I'm actually mentally gifted and a real smarty pants.

I will say simply this:

the anastasia girls are real

BUT they may not go to bed with you when you arrive in odessa, even if online they promised they would

AND even if she does go to bed with you, it's highly unlikely she still will be in bed with you in five years down the road, unless she's pretty much as attractive as a woman you could have met at the local gym or match.com.

[acrzybear]

I'm actually mentally gifted and a real smarty pants.

I will say simply this:

the anastasia girls are real

BUT they may not go to bed with you when you arrive in odessa, even if online they promised they would

AND even if she does go to bed with you, it's highly unlikely she still will be in bed with you in five years down the road, unless she's pretty much as attractive as a woman you could have met at the local gym or match.com.

Wel if sex is your primary goal, then stay home and hire a hooker.  That way you won't have to worry about visas, customs, jetlag, currency exchange etc...  For the cost of airfare I'm sure you can find a good local prostitute.   

[Ade]

I'm actually mentally gifted and a real smarty pants.

lol Too funny. 

[acrzybear]

I'm actually mentally gifted and a real smarty pants.

So are you saying that you have the cleanest windows on the short bus?

[Harrydubois]

"Wel if sex is your primary goal, then stay home and hire a hooker"

That may well be true.

[Faux Pas]

I'm actually mentally gifted and a real smarty pants.

Seriously, you're not

I will say simply this:

the anastasia girls are real

For you Harry they are only a fantasy and likely for always remain a fantasy

BUT they may not go to bed with you when you arrive in odessa, even if online they promised they would

AND even if she does go to bed with you, it's highly unlikely she still will be in bed with you in five years down the road, unless she's pretty much as attractive as a woman you could have met at the local gym or match.com.

Stick with the local prostitutes. More bang for your buck

[Vincenzo]

There is a sticky in the scam section called "The true GCG" (Green Card Girl)

I actually see such a girl at my landlord's place.
The landlord is a fat, bold, old-looking man. He sits day after day at home, does nothing, never exercises, and just complains about numerous illnesses.

Recently, he's brought a wife from Persia. She is 20 years younger, attractive. She is a medical doctor and speaks English well.

Once I had a private talk with her after seeing his loud shouting at her.

She said that her Green Card hadn't arrived and she had called the immigration. The immigration said they had sent her Green Card 4 months earlier. She had to pay $500 for a replacement card. A few days later, the husband "found" her Green Card and offered her to keep her passport and money in his safe place.

He treats her as a slave: he doesn't give her any money, he doesn't allow her to work, he doesn't allow her to get a driver's license, he doesn't allow her to study and get a medical certification. Yes, he knows that if she goes to college or hospital, she'll certainly meet very good men.

She doesn't want to stay, she wants to go home.

[Harrydubois]

"Stick with the local prostitutes."

The sad part is that most likely half of them were Anastasia girls last year.

[Misha]

First of all, regarding prostitution being rape, this was said by a prostitute not only by me.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/dec/11/gender.socialexclusion

Irrelevant. It is not how rape is defined whether legally or in terms of definitions. Is prostitution exploitation? Yes, you can make a case for this. Can a prostitute be raped? Yes. If at any point she says no, then she has taken away her consent and it would be rape. Is a prostitute who is old enough to giver her consent, gives her consent, is conscious and does not change her mind and say no being raped? No, both legally and in terms of how most people understand rape.   

[Harrydubois]

The emotional pain and trauma suffered by prostitutes, or pornographic actresses, or for that matter "green card brides" is apparently equivalent to the pain and trauma of repeated rape. Some woman can do it, some can't. Hence the great number of Anastasia hotties who suddenly "leave town" when their American man shows up.

[Misha]

The emotional pain and trauma suffered by prostitutes, or pornographic actresses, or for that matter "green card brides" is apparently equivalent to the pain and trauma of repeated rape.

What are you basing this on? It would be comparable to saying that the pain and trauma suffered by someone mugged at random, beaten and left unconscious is a back alley is equivalent to a boxer in a ring who is knocked out. It simply isn't so.

Some woman can do it, some can't. Hence the great number of Anastasia hotties who suddenly "leave town" when their American man shows up.

You are fishing for rationalizations to justify behaviour that is less than ethical and in the same process degrading the suffering of those who truly suffered without having a say in what happened to them (i.e. belittling the victims of rape IMHO).

[Vincenzo]

Hence the great number of Anastasia hotties who suddenly "leave town" when their American man shows up.

I don't think it's true when a man sets a "date" through the  website and pays money for it.

She'll show up; otherwise, she'll be punished. It's true that her boyfriend will call her to make sure that everything is OK.

[Harrydubois]

Misha, I think like most men, you have no concept of what sex is for women. Please check this out.

http://thepinkcross.org/pinkcross-articles/june-2009/porn-stars-speak-out-stds-drugs-and-abuse

I wonder how we could get some female opinions in here?

[Gator]

The emotional pain and trauma suffered by prostitutes, or pornographic actresses, or for that matter "green card brides" is apparently equivalent to the pain and trauma of repeated rape. Some woman can do it, some can't. Hence the great number of Anastasia hotties who suddenly "leave town" when their American man shows up.

Harry, you are a mental basket case.  Did you write this song:
 

 
 
Your first statement is ludicrously wrong.  If you base such on the Guardian article, you misread it.  The article is an interview with one desperate prostitute, and why would you think she is mentally competent and qualified to compare prostitution and rape? Her comment where you read about prostitution and rape:
 

  Some people say that prostitution is actually a man paying to rape a woman." Does she believe that? "I think that is true in a lot of cases. Although it is a business arrangement, he is getting off on the fact that the woman doesn't want it. Basically you've consented to being raped for money."

Please understand the meanings of consent, assault and trauma.
 
Your third sentence is also wrong.  Some Anastasia women don't show because they never were comminicating with you.  Some agency employee was writing you using a model's photo and name.    Others upstream have explained this, yet you ignore them.
 
I will make this connection beween prostitution and Anastasia:  many men who use prostitutes are creeps, and I imagine many men who use Anastasia services are also creeps, especially those who try to get the women to talk in sexually explicit terms! 
 
Is this your song:
 
 

[Gator]

I wonder how we could get some female opinions in here?

Why would they?  First you quote prostitutes.  Then porn starts.  So you think RW would be the next logical source?  Why did you skip transvestites?
Maybe RW would PM you if you promised to talk dirty as you did with Anastasia dyevs!!!
 
This is absurd.  You have made some sick conclusions and you are sticking to them.

[Harrydubois]

"Some agency employee was writing you using a model's photo and name."

Has anyone got proof of that? And what about when you are chatting with her and see her on the webcam? Also a hoax?

I think Anastasia doesn't want to (because of financial repercussions if exposed) and doesn't need to resort to that kind of scam.

And if you like to believe that prostitutes, green card brides, strippers, etc are really "into" you, that's your choice. But I think we need to get some women commenting on this one.

[Harrydubois]

"Maybe RW would PM you if you promised to talk dirty as you did with Anastasia dyevs!!!"

No way! I'll only talk dirty to you, baby.