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Re: Man Knocked Out by Hot Sauce in Fight Over Graham Crackers in Florida
« Reply #100 on: October 17, 2015, 07:18:58 PM »
The article on the local NBC affiliate website says Riveria Beach, but I think they should have written Riviera Beach. I don't think there is a Riveria Beach in Florida.

You are correct. Very rough area btw.

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Re: Man Knocked Out by Hot Sauce in Fight Over Graham Crackers in Florida
« Reply #101 on: October 17, 2015, 07:20:27 PM »
You are correct. Very rough area btw.

Even their churches are violent places.

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Florida woman sets roommate on fire over spaghetti spat
« Reply #102 on: October 23, 2015, 10:05:28 AM »
We have seen above various foods inspire violent arguments. This woman in Clearwater, Florida set her roommate on fire because he threw out her spaghetti and meatballs.

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Florida woman sets roommate on fire over spaghetti spat

An argument turned vicious in Florida when an incensed woman poured fingernail polish remover over her roommate then ignited it.

The fight, according to a witness, erupted after Carlos Ortiz Jr., 42, threw out Melissa Dawn Sellers’ spaghetti and meatballs, according to Clearwater police.

“She was setting little objects on fire, then that turned into pouring nail polish remover all over him, and then all of a sudden, the lighter sparked and he lit on fire,” said Ines Causevic, a friend of the victim, Bay News 9 reported.

Sellers had been staying with Ortiz after losing her job at Wal-Mart.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fla-woman-sets-roommate-fire-spaghetti-spat-article-1.1983806

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Florida man blows his arms off making fireworks with coffee grinder
« Reply #103 on: October 23, 2015, 10:18:22 AM »
This incident occurred in Cape Coral, in lovely Southwest Florida.

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A Florida man who blew off both his arms when the crude fireworks he was assembling in his kitchen exploded will not face criminal charges.

Justin McHenry was using a coffee grinder to mix explosive materials at his Cape Coral condo May 1 when the mixture suddenly detonated, Wink News reported.

The 31-year-old's limbs were blown off from below the elbows after shrapnel shot out across the room.

His bones were left exposed and he also suffered severe injuries to his abdomen and upper legs.

Cops arrived on the scene and found a dazed McHenry sitting outside. Smoke was coming out from his explosion-ravaged apartment.

"He had a coffee grinder and when he pushed the coffee grinder down, it blew his arms off," she said
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fla-man-blew-arms-making-fireworks-won-charged-article-1.2251427

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Florida man arrested after he orders pizza delivered to his cockfight
« Reply #104 on: October 23, 2015, 10:40:23 AM »
The pizza delivery man spotted evidence of cockfighting and tipped off the cops. For those of you not familiar with the term cockfighting, it features roosters with sharp blades attached to their feet to fight other roosters. Spectators bet on the outcome of the fight.

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Polk County, Florida -- Deputies have located a rooster fighting and breeding compound after getting a tip from a pizza deliver driver.

The driver delivered the pizza to a home located at 2400 21st Street on Friday, June 19 -- during the middle of a cock fight. When deputies arrived the found extensive trash around the property and a roster fighting ring was observed through a large opened door area of a large barn. The ring was littered with feathers from rosters fighting inside the ring.

A table used for trimming roster spurs with residue on the table from their spurs was observed. Over 60 rosters, hens, and small chickens were observed in cages and a few roaming free in the back of the barn...

"We really appreciate this pizza delivery driver calling us. Frankly, I can't understand why someone would ask for a pizza delivery during an illegal cock-fight, but are happy to also make house calls. It's pretty funny when you think about it." –Sheriff Grady Judd

Upon further investigation the ring was clearly set up and used for roster fighting. Located in a plastic container that was inside a roster holding pen were several plastic boxing gloves used to train the rosters to fight without injuring themselves. Also in the container were several ceramic spurs used to tie onto a roster's natural spur area and kill the opposing roster. Located in a refrigerator inside the barn was several bottles of medication from Mexico clearly marked for roster fighting.

http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/23/fla-pizza-man-discovers-rooster-fighting-operation/29176157/

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Re: Different approaches to animal cruelty in Russia and America
« Reply #105 on: October 24, 2015, 10:08:45 AM »
On a similar note there is a story of a Russian man saving a pregnant dog from being buried alive under a sidewalk.

http://www.thedodo.com/dog-buried-alive-rescued-video-1368741769.html

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Re: Florida man arrested after he orders pizza delivered to his cockfight
« Reply #106 on: October 26, 2015, 01:44:05 AM »
The pizza delivery man spotted evidence of cockfighting and tipped off the cops. For those of you not familiar with the term cockfighting, it features roosters with sharp blades attached to their feet to fight other roosters. Spectators bet on the outcome of the fight.

http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/23/fla-pizza-man-discovers-rooster-fighting-operation/29176157/

Why all of these references to "rosters?"  Is this a Florida variation of the English language, or does this newspaper have really crappy sub-editors (if any at all)?

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Re: Florida man arrested after he orders pizza delivered to his cockfight
« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2015, 01:29:11 PM »
Why all of these references to "rosters?"  Is this a Florida variation of the English language, or does this newspaper have really crappy sub-editors (if any at all)?

The editor just missed the writer's misspelling of the word rooster.
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Woman calls 911 to complain she didn't like her Chinese food
« Reply #108 on: October 26, 2015, 01:38:03 PM »
This story is from Ohio. It features another misuse of the 911 emergency call system. If you recall, we featured a story earlier in this thread about a man calling 911 because his girlfriend refused to have sex with him (reply #88 above).

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Meet Tracey McCloud.

The 44-year-old Ohio woman was arrested yesterday after she dialed 911 to complain that food she ordered at a Chinese restaurant was not up to her standards.

According to the Alliance Police Department, McCloud called 911 from the Main Moon Chinese Restaurant around 4:30 PM Monday. 

When a dispatcher asked, “What’s your emergency?,” McCloud replied, “I had bought some Chinese food and it’s not to par to me.” McCloud explained that restaurant workers were refusing to give her a refund.

The incredulous operator requested the caller’s name and asked, “And this is why you called 911?”

“Umm, what am I supposed to do? Jump over the thing and beat em up and get my money back?,” McCloud responded.

After cops were dispatched to the restaurant, McCloud was arrested for misuse of the 911 system. She is scheduled to appear in Municipal Court on Friday on the misdemeanor charge.

http://thesmokinggun.com/buster/chinese-food/woman-calls-911-over-chinese-food-908623

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Man throws girlfriend to the ground for buying the wrong toilet paper
« Reply #109 on: October 30, 2015, 04:49:50 PM »
Most of these arguments have arisen over food.  Here is one that arose over the selection of toilet paper. This guy really feels strongly about his preferred brand of toilet paper. For completeness the article should say what kind he likes.

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An Indiana man is facing a domestic battery charge after allegedly throwing his girlfriend to the ground during an argument over toilet paper, cops say.

According to a Muncie Police Department report, the victim told cops that Bryan Alwine, 27, pushed her so hard that she “flew” and landed in the street outside the home they share with their daughter.

The duo had been arguing, the victim said, “over toilet paper.” Alwine was allegedly upset because the victim had not purchased his preferred brand of toilet paper.

As first reported by The Star Press, the woman “further stated that Bryan is very specific on what he likes to use and that he began yelling at her while they were still inside the home.”

Officers responding to a 911 call Sunday night noted that the woman, who appeared “very frightened and nervous,” had a bloody elbow and a scratched knee. A witness who called police said that she saw Alwine “put his hands on” the victim and throw her to the ground
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http://thesmokinggun.com/buster/domestic-abuse/toilet-paper-rage-arrest-905362

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Another incident from The Waffle House.

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Incensed that the price of sausage biscuits at Waffle House had increased by 50 cents, a Georgia man shattered the eatery’s door, according to cops who busted the diner Sunday morning.

Police say that Mitchell Feinberg, 39, became upset when, upon being presented his check, he discovered that the price of biscuits had been raised to $1.50.

After throwing his bill to the floor of the eatery in Brookhaven, an Atlanta suburb, Feinberg stormed out of the Waffle House. Cops allege that Feinberg punched the door as he exited, shattering the glass.

Pictured below, Feinberg was subsequently tackled by officers outside Waffle House. He claimed to have “barely kicked the door” as he exited, adding that he “did not want to open the greasy door with his hand,” according to a police report.

A Waffle House employee told police that Feinberg claimed that “someone had only charged him $1 on previous dates when he ordered” a sausage biscuit. A waiter who served Feinberg said that he became “belligerent and loud when he received the bill.” The worker added that Feinberg said, “damn, damn, damn” while complaining about the price of his meal.

Feinberg was charged with felony damage to business property, along with criminal trespass and disorderly conduct, both misdemeanors. The Atlanta resident is being held in the DeKalb County jail in lieu of $2500 bond
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http://thesmokinggun.com/buster/biscuits/waffle-house-biscuit-rage-890421

Who punches a glass door?

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Truly bizarre incident in Miami Beach diner
« Reply #111 on: October 31, 2015, 10:51:13 AM »
Back to Florida, Miami Beach:

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A South Florida woman was filmed stripping naked and allowing men to pour ketchup on her inside of a Miami Beach Johnny Rockets restaurant, leading to her arrest this week.

The out of control woman, identified by police as Angelic Isabella Valle, appeared to eat up the attention while simulating a [redacted to avoid giving our more sensitive members the vapors]. There a mob of swarming men poured condiments and water on her as the 23-year-old mugged for a mass of cell phone cameras hovering over her. At least one man was seen touching her [redacted].

Her audible mention of the entertainment website World Star Hip Hop, which often features similar obscene videos, led to her video's posting nine days after the Oct. 9 disruption — generating more than 1 million views and more than 13,000 comments, most of which express shock and appall.

"Ya'll just mad 'cause you weren't there," she says in a video posted on her Instagram account Thursday
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-woman-filmed-stripping-covered-ketchup-article-1.2418390

If you want to read the full scoop click on the Daily News link above. The words from the article don't really convey a sense of the action. I've seen the video.
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Another incident from The Waffle House.

http://thesmokinggun.com/buster/biscuits/waffle-house-biscuit-rage-890421

Who punches a glass door?

More to the point:

(i) what moronic police deemed that this action could possibly rate as "felony damage to business property"; and
(ii) is there anywhere else where (pending arraignment or trial) you would be put in jail for punching a door?

Seriously????   :cluebat:

Also, although I can understand him being charged with disorderly conduct, how in the world could trespass be invoked?  To trespass involves being somewhere that you're forbidden from entering - according to the story, he kicked (or punched) the door as he left the premises.  If he hadn't actually been banned from the eatery prior to his tantrum, how could he possibly be trespassing?

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(i) what moronic police deemed that this action could possibly rate as "felony damage to business property"; and
(ii) is there anywhere else where (pending arraignment or trial) you would be put in jail for punching a door?

The amount of monetary damage would classify it as a felony. So a busted $1000 dollar door falls in the felony range. The trespassing I agree with you is a bit silly unless he had previously been banned from the premises. It is usually something like resisting arrest with or without violence they tack on.

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More to the point:

(i) what moronic police deemed that this action could possibly rate as "felony damage to business property"; and
(ii) is there anywhere else where (pending arraignment or trial) you would be put in jail for punching a door?

Seriously????   :cluebat:

Also, although I can understand him being charged with disorderly conduct, how in the world could trespass be invoked?  To trespass involves being somewhere that you're forbidden from entering - according to the story, he kicked (or punched) the door as he left the premises.  If he hadn't actually been banned from the eatery prior to his tantrum, how could he possibly be trespassing?

I think the felony charge is a result of the dollar amount of damage.  Once it passes a certain amount of damage, it becomes a felony rather than a misdemeanor. 

The trespass I believe becomes the charge when someone is ordered to leave property and refuses.  At the point they are no longer allowed on the property they are then considered trespassing if they refuse to leave of their own accord.

As to being jailed, that is likely because the police could be held accountable in civil court if the person displaying violent tendencies was released and then injured themselves or others after being released.  I am sure this has happened in the past and set basic practices used by almost all police departments.

America is a litigious country and many practices have been put in place despite common sense due to lawsuit judgements and pre trial settlements. 

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More to the point:

(i) what moronic police deemed that this action could possibly rate as "felony damage to business property"; and

The amount of monetary damage would classify it as a felony. So a busted $1000 dollar door falls in the felony range.

Alex is correct. These crimes typically hinge on the dollar value of the damage (or value of the stolen item). I remember one statute that made it grand theft, a felony, to steal something whose value was $250 or more. When the statute was enacted, long ago, items worth more than $250 were regarded as valuable. But state legislatures cannot easily go through their entire criminal code to enact statutes amending existing law to adjust for current worth. And I think there are problems with simply changing the law to reflect new CPI (Consumer Price Index) numbers.

From the time a state legislature convenes until the time it adjourns for the year there is a frenetic rush to undertake all the activities that have been considered essential: draft bills, introduce bills, have interested parties review bills, have committee hearings on bills, have the full House and full Senate hold hearings on the bills (except in Nebraska, whose legislature has only one chamber), then go to a joint House/Senate conference committee to reconcile any differences in the two versions, then on to the governor for signing or vetoing.
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Re: Bizarre activities, most of which took place in Florida
« Reply #116 on: November 01, 2015, 05:51:32 PM »
Going along with what you've all said about the dollar value, is there any discretion in the charge?  Or is it automatic, like your "Third Strike" rules, that you MUST be charged with a felony in such a case?

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Re: Bizarre activities, most of which took place in Florida
« Reply #117 on: November 01, 2015, 05:56:28 PM »
Going along with what you've all said about the dollar value, is there any discretion in the charge?  Or is it automatic, like your "Third Strike" rules, that you MUST be charged with a felony in such a case?

I'm no expert but as I understand it prosecutors typically have considerable discretion in deciding which charges to file.

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Re: Bizarre activities, most of which took place in Florida
« Reply #118 on: November 01, 2015, 06:03:39 PM »
Going along with what you've all said about the dollar value, is there any discretion in the charge?  Or is it automatic, like your "Third Strike" rules, that you MUST be charged with a felony in such a case?

The officer charges you according to the law and how he interprets it. It is then reviewed by the prosecutor who decides whether there is enough evidence and the charge fits the crime. In many cases they will at that point drop some o the charges and may lessen one. So in this case the trespassing may be dropped, the felony destruction of property lessened to a criminal mischief misdemeanor, etc.

If the defendant takes it to court or string the case along the prosecutor will usually offer one or more plea deals which are lesser offences so as to not go to trial. Very few cases actually go to trial these days.

If you have a lengthy record there is less wiggle room for the prosecutor and the judge to lessen the charges.

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Bizarre activities, most of which took place in Florida
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« Reply #120 on: November 06, 2015, 06:08:44 PM »
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Instead, cops charge, Lori Sheppard, 28, put bourbon in her 10-month-old son’s bottle, leading to the infant’s hospitalization and her arrest for child endangerment and aggravated assault
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More to the point:

(i) what moronic police deemed that this action could possibly rate as "felony damage to business property"; and
(ii) is there anywhere else where (pending arraignment or trial) you would be put in jail for punching a door?

Seriously????   :cluebat:

Also, although I can understand him being charged with disorderly conduct, how in the world could trespass be invoked?  To trespass involves being somewhere that you're forbidden from entering - according to the story, he kicked (or punched) the door as he left the premises.  If he hadn't actually been banned from the eatery prior to his tantrum, how could he possibly be trespassing?

So, because you don't understand the laws of a foreign country means they are moronic? They could have charged him with murder or attempted murder but that doesn't mean they will stick. As for the felony, it's against the law apparently in Atlanta to punch someones glass door in to the point of destroying it. What would they do with such an offender in Kiwiland?

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So, because you don't understand the laws of a foreign country means they are moronic?

Do they have this particular law in your state, Faux Pas?  Or all the others?  If not, then I stand by my comment.

They could have charged him with murder or attempted murder but that doesn't mean they will stick.

Had they done so, that would confirm my view of these people being moronic - and I'm sure that there would be other posters here (including those from the USA) who would agree.

As for the felony, it's against the law apparently in Atlanta to punch someones glass door in to the point of destroying it. What would they do with such an offender in Kiwiland?

Charge them with criminal damage (we don't have such things as misdemeanours or felonies, nor do we differentiate between commercial and private property in such cases), which would incur a fine when convicted, and order restitution for the cost of the damage (whether it involved repairing or replacing the door).  It certainly wouldn't involve jail time.

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Charge them with criminal damage (we don't have such things as misdemeanours or felonies, nor do we differentiate between commercial and private property in such cases)

I have a hard time believing the same court and judge handles cases from jaywalking to murder anywhere.  There may be no designation of misdemeanor and felony in your country.  But, I am sure your judicial system recognizes differing levels of crimes. These no doubt are handled in different venues with different possible sentences. 

Labels don't really matter.  Here crimes of a more serious nature are designated as felonies and crimes of a minor nature are considered misdemeanors. 

I don't want all crimes handled the same.  To me it would be idiotic and an inefficient use of the court's time and finances to have our most experienced judges bogged down with damaged windows while a killer was being tried in a court by a less experienced judge. 

which would incur a fine when convicted, and order restitution for the cost of the damage (whether it involved repairing or replacing the door).  It certainly wouldn't involve jail time.

So someone with enough money could just damage property at will then pay for it and repeat this process indefinitely?  I doubt it.  Jail time would come into play sooner or later.  The system would have to have a method of handling repeat offenders other than allowing them to buy their way out.

Restitution?  What about all the career criminals who can't or won't pay?  A fine is great for the government.  It is like a cool little crime tax.  But how does a fine benefit the guys who's door was destroyed?  What does he do when the criminal won't pay the restitution?  The possibility of jail time is the one bit of leverage that will usually make the criminal pay up if he/she can.

A moronic legal system would be one that allowed endless criminal property damage for people who could afford to buy their way out, or one that had zero threat of jail time for those who refused to pay for their crime.   

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Do they have this particular law in your state, Faux Pas?  Or all the others?  If not, then I stand by my comment.

Yes, and it works out quite well

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Had they done so, that would confirm my view of these people being moronic - and I'm sure that there would be other posters here (including those from the USA) who would agree.

Yeah well, we have a court of justice and it is a time for both sides to plead their case. I don't really care who agrees with what out of the posters here. There is a system here for the laws we have and how those laws came into being. Makes me no difference that you can't comprehend or understand that.

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Charge them with criminal damage (we don't have such things as misdemeanours or felonies, nor do we differentiate between commercial and private property in such cases), which would incur a fine when convicted, and order restitution for the cost of the damage (whether it involved repairing or replacing the door).  It certainly wouldn't involve jail time.

So what makes you think your laws are better or are better in this situation? Because the offender might have to go to jail? The only person or thing moronic in this incident is the perpetrator. He ordered a sausage biscuit then, finding out the price of the biscuit showed his ass, disrupted the business and punched the door out. No he doesn't have a right to do so, it wasn't his business and it wasn't his door.

This is just another example of your ultra liberalism clouding your judgement of right and wrong. Excusing the offender and blaming the set and establish laws of the land. In your progressive mind he's innocent and the law is wrong. This line of thought and you are a perfect example of everything wrong in the world today  :D

 

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