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A friend of mine (a woman) met a man in her home city. They spent
quite a bit of time getting to know each other. They filed for a K-1
blah, blah, blah and she is now here in the USA on that visa.

* They did not get married *


Several revelations came to light and everything has gone to crap.

He has told some obvious lies, and told her that she is not allowed
to travel except to go back forever. It seems he has several issues
with control, anger etc.


HE HAS NOT HIT HER and she wouldn't lie and say that he did.
She doesn't want to cause him any additional grief or problems
but would prefer to stay here in the US.

She entered into the K-1 in good faith and fully intended to marry
him and be happy ever after. She left a good job, her apartment,
her barely an adult son, friends and her entire life and family to
build a future with this man and it has fallen apart.

Lastly, I know her pretty well, she is honest and I trust her.

She has fairly limited resources.
She is very fluent in English
She is near the East Coast (I am near the West Coast)

What can she do ?
What options does she have?
What can be done to help her?


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She cannot stay in the US legally if she doesn't marry her K-1 petitioner within the 90-day period. She needs to go back home.
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Of course you or another man, maybe even woman, could marry her instead 2tallbil...

Is her motivation to stay because of what she 'lost' back home?

Guess this is the 'downside' of those dreaded 90 days....


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Sorry about your friend 2 tall.
 
Obviously she could do what the Mexicans have done over the years.....depending on how desperate she is to stay in the GoodOl' USA and there is always that filing in fear of "persecution" back home thingy, but I wouldn't give her much luck on that either.
 
If she was to find another guy here, she could go to Las Vegas and get married.
 
They will literally marry anybody out there. They don't care about your status and if the union produced a baby it would be an American citizen. She could then use the kid as an "anchor" to try and stay here, but in this case she should forget about ever going home to the FSU.
 
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« Last Edit: September 10, 2011, 03:58:10 PM by GoodOlBoy »
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..is there any way she can stay?

Like pitbull wrote... she is not here legally and joins umpteen million others who also are not. 
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Guess this is the 'downside' of those dreaded 90 days....

On the contrary, I would say this is a shining example of the dreaded side of promising to marry a stranger.
 
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Is her motivation to stay because of what she 'lost' back home?

She did not lose much. If she goes back , she acquires back her apartment, her barely an adult son, her friends and her entire life and family. Isn’t  it a big gain? She even can gain her good job back if she was a good employee.   
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1. Of course you or another man, maybe even woman, could marry her instead 2tallbil...

2. Is her motivation to stay because of what she 'lost' back home?

3. Guess this is the 'downside' of those dreaded 90 days....




1. Marrying someone else wouldn't make her able to stay, her
visa would expire.


2. I didn't ask her what her motivation is. I asked what she wanted to
do.


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1. Marrying someone else wouldn't make her able to stay, her
visa would expire.

If she married within the 90 days I don't think there would be a problem.

If her visa already expired and she marries there might still be a chance, but would probably require legal  assistance.

Doubt it is the first time such has happened.

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On the contrary, I would say this is a shining example of the dreaded side of promising to marry a stranger.
 
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Well, in all fairness he did post:

A friend of mine (a woman) met a man in her home city. They spent
quite a bit of time getting to know each other...

We don't know whether it was face time, or internet, or what... but that being said, I tend to agree with you. 
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2. I didn't ask her what her motivation is.

Then you might want to ask her 2tall.
 
If it is the whole "pride" thingy, tell her to swallow it and go home.
 
She can always find another guy on the internet.
 
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She cannot stay in the US legally if she doesn't marry her K-1 petitioner within the 90-day period.....

Cool, she's lucky! That means she qualifies for free insurance and food stamps.  :P  At the rate we're going, she'll qualify to own a house in 4 months...
 
Seriously though TooTall...not much she can do. She can fly under the radar but with his temperament he's likely to make things miserable for her. It doesn't sound too cool, but going back and trying it again (if she wants) is the next best thing. 2 years down the road or a bit more? It's not that long...
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I don't know how much time is left on her 90 day K-1 visa 2tall, but she might want to consider posting her profile on the internet tonight. and let any suitors in the USA know that she is already here in the GoodOl' USA.
 
This would definitely give her a huge advantage over most FSU woman.
 
You know...get a head start for the next K-1.
 
Just an idea.
 
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PS.....Oh yeah, hopefully her jack@ss fiancee doesn't read this forum. :)
« Last Edit: September 10, 2011, 05:12:12 PM by GoodOlBoy »
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Cool, she's lucky! That means she qualifies for free insurance and food stamps.  :P  At the rate we're going, she'll qualify to own a house in 4 months...


She has to be a qualified alien first  :P

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PS.....Oh yeah, hopefully her jack@ss fiancee doesn't read this forum. :)


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I don't know how much time is left on her 90 day K-1 visa 2tall, but she might want to consider posting her profile on the internet tonight. and let any suitors in the USA know that she is already here in the GoodOl' USA.
 
This would definitely give her a huge advantage over most FSU woman.
 
You know...get a head start for the next K-1.
 
Just an idea.
 
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Heck, the K-1 is done.. IIRC she can just stay and marry anyone within the 90 days..

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They don't care about your status and if the union produced a baby it would be an American citizen. She could then use the kid as an "anchor" to try and stay here, but in this case she should forget about ever going home to the FSU.

As far as I know from various TV programs, such children are then left with their fathers and their mothers are deported, so it's very dangerous advice.
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In northern NY They can get green cards for Canadian ski instructors, Because None of us Americans can speak French...

Any chance she could find a Job where she needs to speak Russian?

Get a green card and come back legally?

Canada lets just about anyone in,  ;)

I Really have no clue about this, I can ask my dads friend he was a sector chief for the boarder patrol.
I am unsure, how much he knows about immigration though.

I think a quick marriage would not be smart.. What if the next guy is worst?
Contacting some of the other men she might of been talking to would be a better idea...

Also explain to her that the newness of America will fade, It's just a country like most others..
I would think the first 90 days in most countries would be fun, interesting, and New.




 
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.... so it's very dangerous advice.

GOB was just trying to throw out some ideas here (thinking out loud  :) ).
My actual advice to this lady......go home (FSU), regroup and start again.
 
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Heck, the K-1 is done.. IIRC she can just stay and marry anyone within the 90 days..

I thought it had to be the petitioner?
 
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I thought it had to be the petitioner?

Correct. She's not going to marry the petitioner. Her only legal choice is to go home.
 
Considering that
 
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She left a good job, her apartment, her barely an adult son, friends and her entire life and family to build a future with this man and it has fallen apart.

she should be glad to return to all that she sacrificed.

PS: Her actions don't match her words, so I wouldn't rush to make a judgement without hearing both side of this situation, regardless of how honest you think she is.
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This is not the first time, nor will it be the last time, that a K-1 went south. I feel for this woman knowing what she must have gone through  to get here.


My understanding is that she must marry the petitioner or go home. She cannot just marry anyone else. It could be considered immigration fraud and raise serious issues if she tries to adjust status.


To overstay her visa, and now considered being here illegally, could very possibly put her in a position to have a ban placed on her and ruin any chances of coming back again.


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I thought it had to be the petitioner?
 
GOB

Yeah GOB checked and you're right.

Interesting that at another place on the net with the same thread title, discussions are more about whether or not some form of abuse is present and whether or not relief (and inherent ability to stay) would be possible.

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On the contrary, I would say this is a shining example of the dreaded side of promising to marry a stranger.
 
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If you know this woman that well, you could help her out. Seems to be a lot of sacrifice on your part as well as expense. She does (I believe) have to marry the petitioner for this visa. I believe there are other legal remedies and you'd probably have to get a lawyer to wade through them while her visa is still valid.


My wife has a contemporary from her old job who came to the US on a work visa a number of years ago. The visa expired and she stayed, for almost two years was here illegally. She later married a legal Ukrainian without ever being deported and is now has a legal status and green card herself. I don't know how it was done but, it was done. 

 

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