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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2021, 10:38:14 AM »
So far the Russians have more than enough freedom
I disagree with this.  A lot of Russians are wary of criticizing their government.  I have personally witnessed this, and it's among people young enough to not be influenced by the USSR.  Ukrainians, OTOH, have no problem criticizing their government.  Some of that may be that Russians are better governed, however, the ones I know steer clear of any criticism, because they don't know what the personal consequences will be.  That doesn't sound like "more than enough freedom" to me.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2021, 12:21:09 PM »
I disagree with this.  A lot of Russians are wary of criticizing their government.  I have personally witnessed this, and it's among people young enough to not be influenced by the USSR.  Ukrainians, OTOH, have no problem criticizing their government.  Some of that may be that Russians are better governed, however, the ones I know steer clear of any criticism, because they don't know what the personal consequences will be.  That doesn't sound like "more than enough freedom" to me.
Is criticizing a government your measure of freedom?
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2021, 12:36:32 PM »
The ability to criticize your government openly and without fear, is a measure of freedom, unless you want to get philosophical about it (i.e., as long as you have the ability to think what you wish, you are free, even if you live in a totalitarian state).
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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2021, 03:15:32 PM »
and you are unable to name the enemies you claim he has.

Shadow,

Next time ask me to name some of his enemies rather than say that
I can't do it.

Alexei Navalny
Vladimir Ashurkov
Mikhail Khodorkovsky

Sergei Furgal
Maria Alyokhina
Grigory Yavlinsky

Lev Schlossberg
Leonid Razvozzhayev
Andrey Piontkovsky
Gennady Gudkov

I can't name any Putin enemies?!

I don't know the various mafia types he crossed or everyone
that he crossed, but I could name another dozen names.
I can also call people I know and get another dozen after
that.

Is criticizing a government your measure of freedom?


So far the Russians have more than enough freedom

Says who? Freedom to keep their businesses? Freedom from graft? Freedom
to get equal protection under the law? Freedom to keep their inventions?
Freedom to petition the government with their grievances? Freedom to
peaceably assemble? Freedom to have single digit inflation? Freedom
to elect who they want?

Whoops, they don't have ANY of those freedoms that the Dutch, Canadians
and Americans have, but in your mind they have enough?

If you daughter is run down by a rich drunk Dutch official's son will the son
get to get away free? How free are you if you can't keep your children safe?

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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2021, 07:29:36 PM »


If you daughter is run down by a rich drunk Dutch official's son will the son
get to get away free? How free are you if you can't keep your children safe?
I recall an episode where a US diplomat killed someone overseas in a similar situation, and the US fought tooth and nail to keep her from paying a consequence.

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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2021, 07:48:05 PM »

The toughest part in these hearings, just as it were in the OJ and Rodney King hearings, it has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
Despite the high threshold, have confidence he will either be found guilty or the jury will be hung by one/two people.    I think the chance is very very low that he will be found not guilty. 

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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2021, 09:39:47 PM »
Freedom to keep their businesses? Freedom from graft? Freedom
to get equal protection under the law? Freedom to keep their inventions?
Freedom to petition the government with their grievances? Freedom to
peaceably assemble? Freedom to have single digit inflation? Freedom
to elect who they want?



When it comes to elections, America is like the guy that got scammed and doesn't even know it. Businesses can operate if they jump on the social bandwagon. Conservative news and millions banned off twitter and silenced if they talked about Hunter's laptop or election fraud. twitter competition and conservative free speech platform Parlor was banned off the internet by Amazon. Then no banks would fund them and another conservative platform Gab to get back on the internet. Peacefully assemble? Jan 6th was a setup framing hundreds of thousands of conservatives. America is headed for a decline.


I'm not too worried about Putin because we got our own problems at home but Putin accuses Ukraine of provocations in Ukraine. Sounds like a good reason to invade. Merkel doesn't think this mass mobilization is going to be a training exercise.


Merkel tells Putin to pull back troops as Kremlin accuses Ukraine of provocations (yahoo.com)
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2021, 11:25:56 PM »
Shadow,

Next time ask me to name some of his enemies rather than say that
I can't do it.
I can't name any Putin enemies?!
I asked to name those powerful enemies that you say are a threat, not a list of clowns.
Says who? Freedom to keep their businesses? Freedom from graft? Freedom
to get equal protection under the law? Freedom to keep their inventions?
Freedom to petition the government with their grievances? Freedom to
peaceably assemble? Freedom to have single digit inflation? Freedom
to elect who they want?

Whoops, they don't have ANY of those freedoms that the Dutch, Canadians
and Americans have, but in your mind they have enough?
Dream on , yup Russia is still USSR.
If you daughter is run down by a rich drunk Dutch official's son will the son
get to get away free? How free are you if you can't keep your children safe?
He would get away free because
1. I do not have a daughter2. Our system is just as corrupted as any other.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2021, 11:30:36 PM »
The ability to criticize your government openly and without fear, is a measure of freedom, unless you want to get philosophical about it (i.e., as long as you have the ability to think what you wish, you are free, even if you live in a totalitarian state).
Now I understand why the US has such a bad government. It is all about people feeling free.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2021, 08:37:21 AM »
And how many years of law enforcement experience do you have to back that up?  I have 25 years worth!!!


The last two days of this trial showcased testimonies from 4-5 of highly-qualified medical professionals that came to the same conclusion about George Floyd's cause of death.


I will remind folks that these testimonies came AFTER I posted what I did that prompted the above post. 25 years of law enforcement experience vs. ZERO.


Our society is really in deep social mess when *experienced* stewards of our social functions and welfare are dubious at best. This helps explain part of the reason why we are where we are today.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2021, 09:24:15 AM »
The last two days of this trial showcased testimonies from 4-5 of highly-qualified medical professionals that came to the same conclusion about George Floyd's cause of death.



The original medical professional who does autopsies everyday wrote on his report there were no signs of injuries to the neck of Floyd and he did not die of asphyxiation. The defense can parade all kinds of experts who did not see the body if they want. It's easy to find people on both sides of the aisle when it comes to politics, policing, in the medical field and even when it comes to COVID and vaccination. Even if the defense convinces some jurors their experts are relevant, they won't be able to convince all 12 and if for some reason they do, I don't see Chauvin guilty of 2nd degree murder because he did not intend to kill Floyd. As a matter of fact, he changed his mind about taking Floyd to jail. He called the medics not once, but twice to get their butts over there to take care of Floyd's medical needs.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2021, 10:07:48 AM »
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The official cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest brought about by (hypoxia - low oxygen). It was classified as 'homicide' because the mechanism of death was caused by the action of another. There was no need to have an *intent* in a 'homicidal' declaration in any death certificate. The terminal event was Derek's restraining and prolonged kneeling on George's neck and shoulder - 'the action of another'. This was explained on the trial.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide

Defined: Homicide is when one human being causes the death of another.  Not all homicide is murder, as some killings are manslaughter, and some are lawful, such as when justified by an affirmative defense, like insanity or self-defense.

This is also largely why they changed the original charge of 1st degree to a lesser 2nd degree murder. Simply because proving 'intent' would be nearly impossible unless they have solid evidence, and any historical reasons, to believe Derek had ambition of killing George Floyd prior to this terminal event.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2021, 10:46:48 AM »
Now I understand why the US has such a bad government. It is all about people feeling free.


I'm not American.  The concept of being free to speak one's mind against government was established in Europe before the USA was established. 
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2021, 12:23:46 PM »
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The official cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest brought about by (hypoxia - low oxygen). It was classified as 'homicide' because the mechanism of death was caused by the action of another. There was no need to have an *intent* in a 'homicidal' declaration in any death certificate. The terminal event was Derek's restraining and prolonged kneeling on George's neck and shoulder - 'the action of another'. This was explained on the trial.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide

Defined: Homicide is when one human being causes the death of another.  Not all homicide is murder, as some killings are manslaughter, and some are lawful, such as when justified by an affirmative defense, like insanity or self-defense.

This is also largely why they changed the original charge of 1st degree to a lesser 2nd degree murder. Simply because proving 'intent' would be nearly impossible unless they have solid evidence, and any historical reasons, to believe Derek had ambition of killing George Floyd prior to this terminal event.



There you go, BillyB.


What I posted above over an hour ago is currently being explained on the trial by Hennepin County's medical examiner verbatim.


Considering I have *zero* years of experience in law enforcement, I must have that sixth sense like Spiderman and Batman does.  :P
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2021, 07:42:41 PM »
I recall an episode where a US diplomat killed someone overseas in a similar situation, and the US fought tooth and nail to keep her from paying a consequence.
Wasn't the diplomat in question in fact actually her husband?
Now I understand why the US has such a bad government. It is all about people feeling free.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2021, 06:43:04 AM »

I'm not American.  The concept of being free to speak one's mind against government was established in Europe before the USA was established.
I know you are not. But the principle is the same. If  freedom means criticizing the government than having a bad government contributes to freedom.To me freedom is a very different concept, it is the ability to act freely without interference. And considering the level of interference from government and other service we have here in Europe I do not call it to be free.
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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2021, 05:02:19 PM »
I asked to name those powerful enemies that you say are a threat, not a list of clowns.

I believe that you might have intended to ask that but that's not what you
actually said. I don't really know the names of the movers and shakers of
the Russian Mafia or of the Russian Kleptocracy.

Some of those clowns were Russian presidential candidates.

Russia is still USSR.

Russia is corrupt. I know people who have been shaken down while in Russia.

 
Our system is just as corrupted as any other.

No it's not. It's far more corrupt in Africa than Russia. It's far more corrupt in
Russia than in Canada. That doesn't mean that there is no corruption in Canada
but saying that they are the same is wrong.

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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2021, 05:06:40 PM »
Merkel doesn't think this mass mobilization is going to be a training exercise.

Merkin is a joke. She says "Don't mobilize against Ukraine, or else
we will stand around with stern looks on our faces at the next
embassy function."


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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2021, 09:45:57 AM »
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The official cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest brought about by (hypoxia - low oxygen). It was classified as 'homicide' because the mechanism of death was caused by the action of another. There was no need to have an *intent* in a 'homicidal' declaration in any death certificate. The terminal event was Derek's restraining and prolonged kneeling on George's neck and shoulder - 'the action of another'. This was explained on the trial.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/homicide

Defined: Homicide is when one human being causes the death of another.  Not all homicide is murder, as some killings are manslaughter, and some are lawful, such as when justified by an affirmative defense, like insanity or self-defense.

This is also largely why they changed the original charge of 1st degree to a lesser 2nd degree murder. Simply because proving 'intent' would be nearly impossible unless they have solid evidence, and any historical reasons, to believe Derek had ambition of killing George Floyd prior to this terminal event.



Low oxygen and slow breathing could've been caused by the drugs Floyd took. Many who overdose die slowly, not instantly. The drugs Floyd took does restrict breathing.


2nd degree murder requires 'intent'. Chauvin didn't intend to kill Floyd. He called for medical attention twice and he certainly wouldn't kills someone in front of cameras and an audience.


http://www.hg.org/legal-articles/murder-charges-in-minnesota-43141#:~:text=Second%20degree%20murder%20can%20be,intense%20emotional%20response%20or%20impulse.

Of course the autopsy said homicide. Homicide doesn't mean a crime happened and if it did, the homicide may have been committed by Floyd's drug dealer so that leaves 'doubt' in the juries minds that Chauvin caused the manslaughter partially or not at all. To find someone guilty, they must be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2021, 08:32:04 AM »
Low oxygen and slow breathing could've been caused by the drugs Floyd took. Many who overdose die slowly, not instantly. The drugs Floyd took does restrict breathing.


It may, but medical reports and toxicology analysis revealed the amount of drugs in George's system is not enough to induce hypoxia, much less cardiopulmonary arrest.

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2nd degree murder requires 'intent'. Chauvin didn't intend to kill Floyd. He called for medical attention twice and he certainly wouldn't kills someone in front of cameras and an audience.


No BillyB, you're wrong. This was explained last year. This is what is known as 'reckless murder', falling within the classification of second degree murder, aka unintentional second degree murder, according to Minnesota law. Two ways a person can be charged second degree murder, without intent, are...


a) a person causes the death of a human being, without intent, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other that criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive by shooting...and/or,


b) a person causes the death of another without intent 'while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection''


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http://www.hg.org/legal-articles/murder-charges-in-minnesota-43141#:~:text=Second%20degree%20murder%20can%20be,intense%20emotional%20response%20or%20impulse.

Of course the autopsy said homicide. Homicide doesn't mean a crime happened and if it did, the homicide may have been committed by Floyd's drug dealer so that leaves 'doubt' in the juries minds that Chauvin caused the manslaughter partially or not at all. To find someone guilty, they must be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.


'Homicide', in this particular case, was used under the medical term, not the legal term.


George no longer had a pulse, he was no longer breathing, he was motionless and had already discharged frothy sputum. The other officer, twice, checked his pulse found nothing, asked Derek maybe they should ease the restraint and flip him over, Derek refused and continued his actions.


Despite all of these, not only did he had George in this prone position, they didn't flip him over nor did anyone gave him CPR after seeing him in the conditions cited above. Those are signs when any officer is suppose to give CPR until the medics arrive.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2021, 09:10:20 AM »

a) a person causes the death of a human being, without intent, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other that criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive by shooting...and/or,


b) a person causes the death of another without intent 'while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection''



There definitely wasn't an order of protection and Chauvin wasn't committing a felony. Let's say you fire a gun into a crowd of people which is a felony but you didn't intentionally want to kill anybody but you did, then they can charge you with unintentional murder.




George no longer had a pulse, he was no longer breathing, he was motionless and had already discharged frothy sputum. The other officer, twice, checked his pulse found nothing, asked Derek maybe they should ease the restraint and flip him over, Derek refused and continued his actions.



I asked my nurse friend about this and he said the drugs in Floyd system can restrict breathing and the amount he took can kill him. As breathing and heartbeat is weak, it would be hard to detect a pulse. One thing is for certain. Floyd went into cardiac arrest 5 minutes later in an ambulance. He didn't die under Chauvin's knee.


Chuavin was the officer in charge and he is allowed discretion and doesn't need to flip Floyd over just because other officers who have a few days experience on the job asked him if Floyd should be flipped on the side. Officers tend to use more than enough restrain than not enough which protect them and civilians. Let's say they didn't use enough restraint and the drugs in Floyd's system gave him adrenalin and super human power. Floyd gets up and escapes and while doing so, he runs your wife over and she falls and hits her head on the concrete sidewalk. You will be asking the cops why they didn't use enough restraint. They do this for a living so they should have better judgment on how much restraint to use on thugs.


The Minneapolis prosecutor's office is playing to the crowd and not doing what's right. Let's say I sell a lethal amount of drugs to a guy. You get in a fight with him. He's on the ground and you stop the fight. Like Chauvin, you call the ambulance, not once, but twice and after 5 minutes in the ambulance the guy dies and you get charged with second degree murder. Your attorney finds out I'm the guy that sold the drugs and you tell the prosecutor he should be going after me but the mob wants to hang you so I plead the 5th on the stand so I don't incriminate myself. Witnesses go on the stand saying you delivered the deadly blow that was the straw that broke the camels back.


When you get to fight somebody, there are no rules. We require cops to routinely engage thugs and we make up rules of engagement that hinder their ability to overpower thugs which puts additional risks on theirs and bystander's lives. In exchange they have certain immunities if they accidently caused or partially caused the death of someone in their possession. Chauvin didn't commit a felony and he didn't intentionally kill Floyd and I doubt he even killed floyd.


Watch the expert witnesses the defense puts up. They will put doubt in the minds of the jury that Chauvin is responsible for Floyd's death. I've been on juries where it's a slam dunk the guy is guilty. There's too much doubt here Chauvin killed Floyd or even wanted to kill him.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2021, 09:26:19 AM »

There definitely wasn't an order of protection and Chauvin wasn't committing a felony. Let's say you fire a gun into a crowd of people which is a felony but you didn't intentionally want to kill anybody but you did, then they can charge you with unintentional murder.


OK, so now you understand a second degree murder charge DOES NOT require 'intent'.

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I asked my nurse friend about this and he said the drugs in Floyd system can restrict breathing and the amount he took can kill him.


Anecdotal. He/she should've petitioned to testify in the case under oath. Your riposte is based on someone no one else knows, nor qualifications, etc...vs the multiple medical professionals who testified, under oath, in the case and do actually have a proven, certifiable high qualifications. I can't even believe you used that as a response.


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Chuavin was the officer in charge and he is allowed discretion and doesn't need to flip Floyd over just because other officers who have a few days experience on the job asked him if Floyd should be flipped on the side.


Hence he faces the most damning on 3 charges.


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The Minneapolis prosecutor's office is playing to the crowd and not doing what's right. Let's say I sell a lethal amount of drugs to a guy. You get in a fight with him. He's on the ground and you stop the fight. Like Chauvin, you call the ambulance, not once, but twice and after 5 minutes in the ambulance the guy dies and you get charged with second degree murder. Your attorney finds out I'm the guy that sold the drugs and you tell the prosecutor he should be going after me but the mob wants to hang you so I plead the 5th on the stand so I don't incriminate myself. Witnesses go on the stand saying you delivered the deadly blow that was the straw that broke the camels back.


Hypothetical and doesn't apply in this case. George no longer had a pulse way before the ambulance arrived. You have been attempting to employ hypothetical scenario to carry your argument that have no basis on any of the evidence already been exercised and used in this trial.

for example:

~ When you get to fight somebody, there are no rules. We require cops to routinely engage thugs and we make up rules of engagement that hinder their ability to overpower thugs which puts additional risks on theirs and bystander's lives. In exchange they have certain immunities if they accidently caused or partially caused the death of someone in their possession. Chauvin didn't commit a felony and he didn't intentionally kill Floyd and I doubt he even killed floyd.

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Watch the expert witnesses the defense puts up. They will put doubt in the minds of the jury that Chauvin is responsible for Floyd's death. I've been on juries where it's a slam dunk the guy is guilty. There's too much doubt here Chauvin killed Floyd or even wanted to kill him.


That's fine. Due process, baby.
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2021, 09:35:21 AM »
OK, so now you understand a second degree murder charge DOES NOT require 'intent'.



It requires intent unless there's a felony involved such as shooting a gun into a crowd of people with no intention of killing anybody. Why do you think Chauvin committed a felony with all those cameras on him?




George no longer had a pulse way before the ambulance arrived.



So you believe a rookie cop's evaluation over the medical experts in the ambulance who said Floyd was going into cardiac arrest. Just because someone can't find a pulse doesn't mean there isn't one. Most, if not all jurors will have doubt Chauvin killed Floyd. Riots are coming. Opportunities to get some free Nikes and big screen tvs are coming!
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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2021, 09:55:59 AM »
It requires intent unless there's a felony involved such as shooting a gun into a crowd of people with no intention of killing anybody. Why do you think Chauvin committed a felony with all those cameras on him?

1) OK again, second degree murder charge does not require *intent*
2) Your 'shooting in the crowd' have ZERO relevance to this case.
3) He clearly caused the death of George Floyd. As Dr. Thomas concluded, she had never been involved in any investigation or cases that had so much evidentiary materials as this case do. Materials that she clearly testified, under oath and based on her medical broad experience - along with other 4 highly qualified medical professionals who testified in this case - and in great details; that confirmed George died due to cardiopulmonary arrest due to hypoxia as a result of the restraining by the officers.

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So you believe a rookie cop's evaluation over the medical experts in the ambulance who said Floyd was going into cardiac arrest....


Cops, rookie or otherwise, had undergone training in first response monitoring. They will only yield first response attention and care only under the presence of a medic.


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Just because someone can't find a pulse doesn't mean there isn't one.


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..Most, if not all jurors will have doubt Chauvin killed Floyd. Riots are coming. Opportunities to get some free Nikes and big screen tvs are coming!


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Re: Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2021, 10:16:44 AM »
3) He clearly caused the death of George Floyd. As Dr. Thomas concluded, she had never been involved in any investigation or cases that had so much evidentiary materials as this case do. Materials that she clearly testified, under oath and based on her medical broad experience - along with other 4 highly qualified medical professionals who testified in this case - and in great details; that confirmed George died due to cardiopulmonary arrest due to hypoxia as a result of the restraining by the officers.



Have you ever done jury duty? There will be experts from both sides of the fence testifying. You're getting one side of the story. I believe the medical expert who done the actual autopsy is testifying or already done testifying. Check him out. I'm not following the case because the video and audio evidence I seen last year is enough for me to know Floyd died in the ambulance and Chauvin used an approved police department method of restraining a suspect so his actions aren't a felony. If Floyd wasn't on a 3X lethal dose of drugs, he'd be alive today. If the Minneapolis justice system was remotely fair, they'd be going after the drug dealer but his skin color prevents them from doing so.
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