Ways men fail by spending money .....

[jone]

Here are some ways that men automatically fail at the pursuit of FSU women but come home with empty pocketbooks:

1.  Men try to impress a lady on a PPC or PPL site without ever getting a Skype Address or direct contact.

2.  Men travel to <NAME OF COUNTRY> without having a firm commitment from a woman and no back up plan.  (In my book, a firm commitment means that the woman has agreed to spend quality time with a man, without the presence of the paid - hugely overpaid - interpreter.

3.  Men buy gifts for the woman prior to meeting them or upon first arrival.  (I made this mistake with a gal I met in Kyiv.  She asked me to bring stuff from Victorias Secret for her as it wasn't available in UA at the time.  The gal had no real desire to be with me, but wanted the stuff so she was willing to go out with me for the goodies.)

4.  Man takes woman on a trip.  The trip turns out to be a spending spree where the woman only shows affection upon receiving wonderful gifts.  (This is a pro-dater - many of the gifts are sold back for cash.)

There are many more instances.  Feel free to add to my list.

[ML]

Guy has arranged firm dates with 20 different women on 20 different days.  But on 20th day, he realizes he will be there for the 21st day and didn't arrange a date.

[BillyB]

Here are some ways that men automatically fail at the pursuit of FSU women but come home with empty pocketbooks:

Many pros know men think with their little head and use that to their advantage. After the first date, a pro may go to a man's apartment and make out with him. As soon as he drops his pants, she tells him to shower before doing it. Makes sense. What woman would want a dirty pee in her? When he comes out of the bathroom, his pants, wallet, and girl are gone.

[2tallbill]

Guy has arranged firm dates with 20 different women on 20 different days.  But on 20th day, he realizes he will be there for the 21st day and didn't arrange a date.

You are supposed to date the best of the previous 20 on day 21

[GatoMoon]

Here are some ways that men automatically fail at the pursuit of FSU women but come home with empty pocketbooks:

1.  Men try to impress a lady on a PPC or PPL site without ever getting a Skype Address or direct contact.

2.  Men travel to <NAME OF COUNTRY> without having a firm commitment from a woman and no back up plan.  (In my book, a firm commitment means that the woman has agreed to spend quality time with a man, without the presence of the paid - hugely overpaid - interpreter.

3.  Men buy gifts for the woman prior to meeting them or upon first arrival.  (I made this mistake with a gal I met in Kyiv.  She asked me to bring stuff from Victorias Secret for her as it wasn't available in UA at the time.  The gal had no real desire to be with me, but wanted the stuff so she was willing to go out with me for the goodies.)

4.  Man takes woman on a trip.  The trip turns out to be a spending spree where the woman only shows affection upon receiving wonderful gifts.  (This is a pro-dater - many of the gifts are sold back for cash.)

There are many more instances.  Feel free to add to my list.

The woman whom I am going to meet on Friday (hope she will be there).  I asked what she wants for her birthday.  She said that her best birthday gift will be my appearance!   Unlike many others whom I had asked in the past - usual iPad, iPod, mobile phone, whatever.....and therefore I refused to meet these gals

[GatoMoon]

Here are some ways that men automatically fail at the pursuit of FSU women but come home with empty pocketbooks:

1.  Men try to impress a lady on a PPC or PPL site without ever getting a Skype Address or direct contact.

2.  Men travel to <NAME OF COUNTRY> without having a firm commitment from a woman and no back up plan.  (In my book, a firm commitment means that the woman has agreed to spend quality time with a man, without the presence of the paid - hugely overpaid - interpreter.

3.  Men buy gifts for the woman prior to meeting them or upon first arrival.  (I made this mistake with a gal I met in Kyiv.  She asked me to bring stuff from Victorias Secret for her as it wasn't available in UA at the time.  The gal had no real desire to be with me, but wanted the stuff so she was willing to go out with me for the goodies.)

4.  Man takes woman on a trip.  The trip turns out to be a spending spree where the woman only shows affection upon receiving wonderful gifts.  (This is a pro-dater - many of the gifts are sold back for cash.)

There are many more instances.  Feel free to add to my list.

Before planning to meet women, I always ask some important questions whether she will pass the test or not.

For example, recently I asked one Colombian woman from Barranquilla what will we do when I arrive there.  She replied:   'We go to shopping.  We go to restaurant.  We go to the beach with my family.  We go to the other city to meet my cousin'      SHE FAILED THE TEST - not only because of being materialistic but also did not mention spending quality time alone with me.

I asked another Colombian girl whether she wanted to meet me at the airport or at the hotel.  Her reply ' Up to you'.   SHE FAILED THE TEST!  Any genuine woman would've said at the airport since she lives near the airport!  (As near as Central Kiev to Borispol Airport)

[2tallbill]

There are many more instances.  Feel free to add to my list.

Girl he hasn't met hints around that she needs
A. A new cell phone since her old one was broken, fell in the sea or was eaten by
a bear
B. Help paying for the internet

A serious/good girl might be eating nothing but cabbage but she will be too proud
to tell you about it. A good girl will also refuse to accept things until she's made a
decision about you. If she accepted a lavish gift from a Russian boyfriend then in
general she would be expected to send her knickers flying that evening.

However, once you've met the girl in person and determined she is the real deal
then things are different. You are always expected to pay for everything on a date,
but you are driving the bus. Many men have been dragged to expensive restaurants,
places with high cover charges etc. Make the first date at a cafe, have tea and cake
(if you want to sweeten the deal).

You gotta drive the bus, make your own arrangements. Arrange for your own apartment,
airport pickup and translation. You can't be scammed unless you let somebody scam you!

If a girl complains about meeting at a cafe then KICK HER TO THE CURB!
There are so many good girls with serious intentions, why spend one minute
with a prodater or even a girl who isn't interesting? Don't let a hot girl lead
you around by the nose. Kick them to the curb, once you realize that you
are driving the bus, this whole thing seems easier. You are more confident
and women's panties get wet around a confident man.

Never try to buy them, you aren't saving them, they will be very resentful if they
think you are. They want you to win their hearts they want you to romance them,
they want you to seduce them. If the girl you are with doesn't want those things
then dump her and move on.

[LAman]

Here are some ways that men automatically fail at the pursuit of FSU women but come home with empty pocketbooks:

1.  Men try to impress a lady on a PPC or PPL site without ever getting a Skype Address or direct contact.

2.  Men travel to <NAME OF COUNTRY> without having a firm commitment from a woman and no back up plan.  (In my book, a firm commitment means that the woman has agreed to spend quality time with a man, without the presence of the paid - hugely overpaid - interpreter.

3.  Men buy gifts for the woman prior to meeting them or upon first arrival.  (I made this mistake with a gal I met in Kyiv.  She asked me to bring stuff from Victorias Secret for her as it wasn't available in UA at the time.  The gal had no real desire to be with me, but wanted the stuff so she was willing to go out with me for the goodies.)

4.  Man takes woman on a trip.  The trip turns out to be a spending spree where the woman only shows affection upon receiving wonderful gifts.  (This is a pro-dater - many of the gifts are sold back for cash.)

There are many more instances.  Feel free to add to my list.

you are speaking about the <10% of the men in question, right?

me thinks the >90% of the 'other' men in question get exactly what they look for!!!

[2tallbill]

you are speaking about the <10% of the men in question, right?

me thinks the >90% of the 'other' men in question get exactly what they look for!!!

   

Yeah, we aren't here to help the keyboard Romeos or the married men with
fantasies and we aren't here to help the helpless. Most of the 90% who never
get on a plane never find their way here, some do and are lurking out their
right now. There will always be guys who dream about the Prom Queen and
there will always be the guys who chased the prom queen around a hotel room
with her panties on our head.

The guys reading this only need to decide which guy they want to be.

Udachi!

Bill

[Gator]

GIFTS and RW

This is not about failure but more about giving presents to RW.

 I always brought small gifts with me when meeting a RW for the first time.  On my very first trip in 2002 I brought six top-of-the-line  Ralph Lauren  blouses - one for each woman I was meeting.  I had the sizes wrong as every woman was not only slender, they preferred a skintight fit.    Several times, the RW had something for me such as a CD of their favorite music or some crafted item made in their city.

If I spent a few days with a woman and felt like seeing her again, I made a point to buy her something special on our last day together.  I did this for three women -  the best Nokia (it was 2005 so don't laugh),  a leather jacket, and Italian leather boots. 

One should keep in mind that RW's expectations reflect their dating experience with RM.  In other words, they have been trained by RM.   RM are not shy about giving.   In fact, RW have their antennae fully extended looking  for clues to  determine if a man is "greedy."  Being thought of "greedy" is the kiss of death. 

"Greedy"  has little to do with special gifts,  but is dependent upon the manner in which a man makes small purchases, whether  ordering in a restaurant or purchasing her a tee shirt at a resort shop.  They can sense the inner spirit of the man.  They will respect a man who does not waste money in planning trips, yet be careful when it comes to small items for her.  Always suggest the most expensive item on the menu. 

A couple of times I had dates ask me to buy them something.  I knew ahead of time that this was a bad sign, and frankly there was no chemistry between us so good riddance. 

The two women with whom I had an exclusive relationship never asked for anything.  Yet, they were certainly expecting  something  at New Year's and on their birthday.  They were not hesitant to talk once I opened the door to ask  what they would like.  When traveling together, if we passed a shop and saw something exquisite in the window, it usually was worn by her that evening.

My wife was a runway fashion model for 13 years.  Men had chased her from Berlin to Moscow.  She knew quality.  One might say, whoa Gator, this woman is expensive.  A good story:  One glorious afternoon on the Isle of Capri we strolled down the exclusive shopping street.  We entered the Valentino boutique.  Normally the staff in these exclusive shops will snub walk-ins.  A well attired salesman watched my wife examine a table with sweaters, handle the material and hold one up in a mirror.  Evidently he was impressed.  He  approached her  and started conversing in English.  I was wearing boat shoes and perhaps he thought me her accountant. 

She did not say a word, but with a serious face examined the sweater again and then looked at the  price tag.  I recall it was around 1,500 Euros (for a sweater!).  She took one more look at  the sweater, replaced it on the table, stuck her nose up in the air and walked out with a smooth gait as if she owned the whole street. 

[TagUrIt898]

Excellent Post Jon, it's very honest and humble to admit the mistakes we ALL make along this journey. Hopeful someone starting out can read these posts and learn from them.  This venture is costly enough without running into the pitfalls we set from not going research/homework.

[BillyB]

"Greedy"  has little to do with special gifts,  but is dependent upon the manner in which a man makes small purchases, whether  ordering in a restaurant or purchasing her a tee shirt at a resort shop.  They can sense the inner spirit of the man. 

There are a few good girls that will tell the man who's visiting all he needs to bring is himself. Some men make the mistake of bringing only themselves. Gifts have more meaning to the ladies than us men realize. It means we care and are thinking of them. A gift can give a woman a memory for a lifetime and what man doesn't want to give his wife a memory like that? Giving gifts is not only an act that is used by men who buy women, it's an act of a gentleman with good manners. Gentlemen know how to give gifts without giving the impression that he is trying to buy love.

[ML]

Gentlemen know how to give gifts without giving the impression that he is trying to buy love.

But when things go south . . . won't many women throw back in the man's face idea that he was trying to 'buy' her . . . even when he was one of those who knew 'how to give gifts without giving the impression that he is trying to buy love.'

[BillyB]

But when things go south . . . won't many women throw back in the man's face idea that he was trying to 'buy' her . . . even when he was one of those who knew 'how to give gifts without giving the impression that he is trying to buy love.'

Strange a woman would accuse a man of buying her love at the end of a relationship, when she gladly accepted everything he gave during the relationship.


I doubt any woman I visited would accused me of buying her love with flowers, boxes of chocolate, and a scenic book of Washington State. It's when a guy goes overboard with the gifts, he will be accused of buying love. A confident man doesn't need to go overboard to catch women. As a relationship progresses, the value and quality of gifts can increase as Gator has said he's done. The key to not being accused of being greedy or buying love is a guy should give the right gifts at the right time as a relationship progresses. 2 carat diamonds on up should be given only after the 2nd date.

[GatoMoon]

Strange a woman would accuse a man of buying her love at the end of a relationship, when she gladly accepted everything he gave during the relationship.


I doubt any woman I visited would accused me of buying her love with flowers, boxes of chocolate, and a scenic book of Washington State. It's when a guy goes overboard with the gifts, he will be accused of buying love. A confident man doesn't need to go overboard to catch women. As a relationship progresses, the value and quality of gifts can increase as Gator has said he's done. The key to not being accused of being greedy or buying love is a guy should give the right gifts at the right time as a relationship progresses. 2 carat diamonds on up should be given only after the 2nd date.

I was engaged to my ex-Colombian girlfriend.  I love giving her gifts.   Met her 3 times.  She told her friends that I am 'Manero' (cannot remember the spelling, but it means pig in a bad way - it is like buying her for sex).  So much for being generosity.

[BillyB]

She told her friends that I am 'Manero' (cannot remember the spelling, but it means pig in a bad way - it is like buying her for sex).

So.....there was sex? Don't need to be the MANero for that, just be the MAN.

[2tallbill]

I was engaged to my ex-Colombian girlfriend.  I love giving her gifts.   Met her 3 times.  She told her friends that I am 'Manero' (cannot remember the spelling, but it means pig in a bad way - it is like buying her for sex).  So much for being generosity.

Latin ladies are somewhat infamous for their fiery nature. I imagine
that she enjoyed getting the gifts and only came up with the pig thing
because the relationship was over.
 

[jone]

[LAman]

Jone, I had never seen a close up pic of you before( I am shocked), thanks for sharing!!

[Slumba]

Jone, I had never seen a close up pic of you before( I am shocked), thanks for sharing!!

It's not even his good side.

[jone]

Jone, I had never seen a close up pic of you before( I am shocked), thanks for sharing!!

Yes, I would like you to know I have an excellent dentist.

[LAman]

Yes, I would like you to know I have an excellent dentist.

I would have to question your surgeon though!!!! was that the new 'facial treatments' that are popular now?????

[jone]

You shoulda seen me before.  I looked like a real animal.

[ML]

Horse walks into a bar.

Bartender:  Why the long face ?

[jone]

And the bill at the bar arrives.  The skunk says "I don't have a cent.". The doe says "I had a buck last night but I don't have any money now.". The giraffe says "Don't worry.  The highballs are on me."

[GatoMoon]

LOL   

[honestytruth]

Hello blessed one. Yeah I am in the club... And many others fail by spending money on wrong places date sites scams for example and others fail by spending it on other things.

[cc3]

What's with all of the "blessings" and "blessed ones" in your posts? Has your quest for former CCCP countries' women led you into a state of religious fervor? 

[Irina-Rina]

Guy has arranged firm dates with 20 different women on 20 different days.  But on 20th day, he realizes he will be there for the 21st day and didn't arrange a date.

I've always been wondering- hiw is it possible to meet  20 different women on 20 different days and not get messed up? it must be very difficult to make a choice of one or two particular women after nearly three weeks of meeting different people every day. Also. I've been thinking, what if a manreally likes a woman on one of the first days? What is he wants to meet her again to gt to know her better/ Won't those other meetings mess up with his feelings for this woman? I mean, on the one hand, it would be good to see each of them at least oncem on the other hand, the more other women he meets. the less time he has for this particular woman... How can this be resolved?

[2tallbill]

I've always been wondering- hiw is it possible to meet  20 different women on 20 different days and not get messed up?

 I mean, on the one hand, it would be good to see each of them at least oncem on the other hand, the more other women he meets. the less time he has for this particular woman... How can this be resolved?

Ok, I will explain. Let's say a man online said he was interested to meet you
because he liked your smile and suggested you meet at a cafe for tea and
cake. You look at his profile and decide to meet him at the cafe. He seems
nice enough but not what you are looking for. So you each go your separate
ways seeking your soulmates.

There is no reason for you to need to keep anything straight because in one
15 minute meeting you have both moved on. Obviously this can be repeated
as often as necessary with no confusion because there is nothing worth
remembering.

HOWEVER, if you meet and find that you both have mutual chemistry and attraction
for each other, then you both make a plan to meet again. He forgets the others and
pursues you. You juggle your schedule to make as much time as you can to spend
time with him and he pursues you exclusively.

This method of search isn't for everyone. First the man must be decisive and a good
judge of character. I've seen too many men who keep going from meeting to meeting
without stopping like a kid in the candy store. Other men pursue the hottest girl
without making sure there is mutual chemistry and attraction. This method only
works if the man keeps focused and uses the head above his shoulders rather
then the one in his pants.

Other idiots will keep asking out a girl that they are barely interested in (or worse
barely interested in him) just because they have free time between 6 pm and 10 pm
one evening. That's gotta be on of the dumbest reasons in the world to waste your
time or a girls time.

A man who uses this plan must never ask a girl out on a second date if he doesn't
feel a connection of both Chemistry and mutual attraction.

[SANDRO43]

Irina-Rina, another factor you should consider, particularly as far as US men are concerned, is that most are short on vacation time and therefore use the WMVM approach (Write Many, Visit Many) to 'maximise' their available time - and financial investment too, in some cases . 

[ML]

I've always been wondering- how is it possible to meet  20 different women on 20 different days and not get messed up? it must be very difficult to make a choice of one or two particular women after nearly three weeks of meeting different people every day. Also. I've been thinking, what if a man really likes a woman on one of the first days? What is he wants to meet her again to get to know her better. Won't those other meetings mess up with his feelings for this woman? I mean, on the one hand, it would be good to see each of them at least once on the other hand, the more other women he meets. the less time he has for this particular woman... How can this be resolved?

Rina, you are right, in some respects.

Many men/women cannot meet 20 different persons over a short period of time and not get them mixed up.  So this method of several meetings is not for those folks.

And, for those who are capable of meeting many men/women and not getting them mixed up . . .
Have first dates at lunch time or early afternoon.

Then have second and later dates with other men/women (whom you have already had a first date with) in the evening.

In this manner, you can start to spend more time with those whom you think you might have a real future with, while at the same time still meeting all of those whom you had previously set up dates with.

This also allows the man to have sex in early afternoon and regenerate before sex again in evening.

Women are lucky because they don't have to regenerate  between sessions.

[Irina-Rina]

Here are some ways that men automatically fail at the pursuit of FSU women but come home with empty pocketbooks:

1.  Men try to impress a lady on a PPC or PPL site without ever getting a Skype Address or direct contact.

2.  Men travel to <NAME OF COUNTRY> without having a firm commitment from a woman and no back up plan.  (In my book, a firm commitment means that the woman has agreed to spend quality time with a man, without the presence of the paid - hugely overpaid - interpreter.

3.  Men buy gifts for the woman prior to meeting them or upon first arrival.  (I made this mistake with a gal I met in Kyiv.  She asked me to bring stuff from Victorias Secret for her as it wasn't available in UA at the time.  The gal had no real desire to be with me, but wanted the stuff so she was willing to go out with me for the goodies.)

4.  Man takes woman on a trip.  The trip turns out to be a spending spree where the woman only shows affection upon receiving wonderful gifts.  (This is a pro-dater - many of the gifts are sold back for cash.)

There are many more instances.  Feel free to add to my list.

[calmissile]

Ok, I will explain. Let's say a man online said he was interested to meet you
because he liked your smile and suggested you meet at a cafe for tea and
cake. You look at his profile and decide to meet him at the cafe. He seems
nice enough but not what you are looking for. So you each go your separate
ways seeking your soulmates.

There is no reason for you to need to keep anything straight because in one
15 minute meeting you have both moved on. Obviously this can be repeated
as often as necessary with no confusion because there is nothing worth
remembering.

HOWEVER, if you meet and find that you both have mutual chemistry and attraction
for each other, then you both make a plan to meet again. He forgets the others and
pursues you. You juggle your schedule to make as much time as you can to spend
time with him and he pursues you exclusively.

This method of search isn't for everyone. First the man must be decisive and a good
judge of character. I've seen too many men who keep going from meeting to meeting
without stopping like a kid in the candy store. Other men pursue the hottest girl
without making sure there is mutual chemistry and attraction. This method only
works if the man keeps focused and uses the head above his shoulders rather
then the one in his pants.

Other idiots will keep asking out a girl that they are barely interested in (or worse
barely interested in him) just because they have free time between 6 pm and 10 pm
one evening. That's gotta be on of the dumbest reasons in the world to waste your
time or a girls time.

A man who uses this plan must never ask a girl out on a second date if he doesn't
feel a connection of both Chemistry and mutual attraction.

Bill, totally agree with your post.

I'll add a few comments her rather than start a new post.

1.  I don't think the title is appropriate.  The only way men fail by spending money is that they come away from the project empty handed and have spent a lot of money they may or may not have to spend.  The title implies that FSUW turn down a man because he spent money on them.  I don' think that is the case.  Women will let a man spend money on them even if there are not romantic feelings.  If a man spends money on a woman he is pursuing and gets no emotional response from her, then he is simply not very bright or is desperate.

2.  I took a lot of ribbing for spending some money on my former fiance in Primorsk.  My reasons for doing so was not to buy her affection.  I was very interested in marrying her which includes the inclusion of her two children.  She worked very hard running a kiosk type business in an outdoor mall.  She worked hard to support her family.  It was a characteristic I admire and was looking for in a mate.  The family would benefit from the upgrades to the home and being a part of it gave me the pleasure of helping someone and making their life easier.  In my way of thinking, if I had the money to spend and could help someone out on a one on one basis it its better than contributing it to a charity where you have no idea how the money is spent.

Unfortunately, the unraveling of the relationship had nothing to do with money.  She was a 'village girl' and there was a lot of baggage that took a while for me to discover and evaluate if I could live with it.  This included a lot of superstitions that I found illogical and eventually decided I could not make decisions based upon these myths.  In addition, her social status allowed her to begin playing 'head games' with me.  It had my head going in circles trying to sort out what her true feelings (toward me) were and whether I wanted to live my life spending so much time analyzing her antics.  I am a somewhat serious person and don't have the time to spend on these games.  Nevertheless, I don't regret for a moment the money I spent on her family to improve their lives.  Sometimes you can fall in love with a person that you later learn that you cannot live in harmony due to different personalities and values.

3.  Finding a FSUW is not an inexpensive proposition, particularity for someone in the USA.  One of the things we often see on the forum is when men pursue this adventure on a shoestring budget.  Saving up for years to afford a trip to FSU would have to be successful in one trip or the money pot is bankrupt.  For those that were successful in these cases are very lucky or perhaps very skilled.  Generally it takes a lot more investment in money and time to find the right mate so far away from home.

4.  For most, this is also not a quick process.  Even if you find your mate on the first trip, the delays in bringing your future bride to the USA is a long process.  For anyone that has been previously married, or in the case your prospective spouse has minor children, it can take a year or two before she (they) land on US soil.  A real commitment must exist between the two parties to pull off the paperwork and waiting periods.  It is my opinion that it is worth it all, when you find the right 'match'.

5.  As to the comments about WMVM (write many, visit many), most of my trips were for 1-3 months and were dedicated to a single woman that I had befriended on a dating site or social media site.  In my case, I wanted to visit Ukraine and get to know the country, it's people, history and enjoy the historical sites, particularly with regard to WWII.  The trips resulted in making many friends and being invited to stay with them whenever returning. It was very rewarding.  From all the WOVO trips only one engagement resulted which unraveled later.

I decided to try a WMVM trip at my last attempt.  Having about 20 women that wanted to meet/date was a nightmare.  Some of the quips about how do you keep track of them makes me chuckle.  Remembering who is who, what you said to who, what schedule commitments you made to who needs an accountant to keep track of.      Bill's comment about having a 15 minute coffee date is perhaps the only way you can pull this off (WMVM).  OF course the language barrier makes it even worse, since there are many misunderstanding even about when and where you will meet.  It seems to me that you can eliminate many of the 15 minute dates by the use of Skype.

IMO, FSU women make the most wonderful wives for USA men.  It is however, very important to choose one that is fully compatible with you and that is not easily done on  a shoestring budget.

Just my 2 cents worth.

[GatoMoon]

Here are some ways that men automatically fail at the pursuit of FSU women but come home with empty pocketbooks:

1.  Men try to impress a lady on a PPC or PPL site without ever getting a Skype Address or direct contact.

2.  Men travel to <NAME OF COUNTRY> without having a firm commitment from a woman and no back up plan.  (In my book, a firm commitment means that the woman has agreed to spend quality time with a man, without the presence of the paid - hugely overpaid - interpreter.

3.  Men buy gifts for the woman prior to meeting them or upon first arrival.  (I made this mistake with a gal I met in Kyiv.  She asked me to bring stuff from Victorias Secret for her as it wasn't available in UA at the time.  The gal had no real desire to be with me, but wanted the stuff so she was willing to go out with me for the goodies.)

4.  Man takes woman on a trip.  The trip turns out to be a spending spree where the woman only shows affection upon receiving wonderful gifts.  (This is a pro-dater - many of the gifts are sold back for cash.)

There are many more instances.  Feel free to add to my list.

1.  Men try to impress a lady on a PPC or PPL site without ever getting a Skype Address or direct contact.

This is a big mistake.  When a woman refuses to give me skype / whatappos or any direct contact he mentioned,  GOODBYE WOMAN


2.  Men travel to <NAME OF COUNTRY> without having a firm commitment from a woman and no back up plan.  (In my book, a firm commitment means that the woman has agreed to spend quality time with a man, without the presence of the paid - hugely overpaid - interpreter.

Personally I do not believe having interpreter presented.  If the woman cannot at least try to communicate with me, the GOODBYE WOMAN. 


3.  Men buy gifts for the woman prior to meeting them or upon first arrival.  (I made this mistake with a gal I met in Kyiv.  She asked me to bring stuff from Victorias Secret for her as it wasn't available in UA at the time.  The gal had no real desire to be with me, but wanted the stuff so she was willing to go out with me for the goodies.)

This is a VERY BIG MISTAKE.  I've made a mistake with my 1st Colombian girlfriend.   I believe it is acceptable to give her souvenir from your own country (or city) in your 1st visit.    If you give her gifts, you cannot prove that she isn't a materialistic.

4.  Man takes woman on a trip.  The trip turns out to be a spending spree where the woman only shows affection upon receiving wonderful gifts.  (This is a pro-dater - many of the gifts are sold back for cash.)

Agree with it

[tfcrew]

she tells him to shower before doing it....When he comes out of the bathroom, his pants, wallet, and girl are gone.

To avoid this...invite her to join in on the shower