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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2011, 01:46:59 PM »
And if you like to believe that prostitutes, green card brides, strippers, etc are really "into" you, that's your choice.

I am not a creep nor a lonely loser so I would not believe such if I encountered one of your women.
 
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"Some agency employee was writing you using a model's photo and name."

Has anyone got proof of that? And what about when you are chatting with her and see her on the webcam? Also a hoax?
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2011, 01:55:50 PM »
So, Harry, porn stars are the standard ??? They may have issues but it still consensual and not rape...

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2011, 01:59:10 PM »
Ok, listen I take it back. Girls who have sex for money and/or visas love it, they just can't get enough! It's real - she really loves you. She's going wild about you.

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2011, 02:10:23 PM »
Harry, you don't do subtlety well  Again, a woman can have sex without desire and it won't be rape, and a woman can marry without love and it still won't be prostitution...
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2011, 02:15:03 PM »
No, just pay her and don't worry. She loves it. She's finishing that bottle of Jack Daniels because she loves the sex so much.

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2011, 02:27:56 PM »
You can freely consent to do a job and not love the job. So what.

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2011, 02:47:02 PM »
Harry should just crawl back into his cave or go troll elsewhere. 
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2011, 02:56:19 PM »
I'm not in a cave. I'm in an apartment in Odessa in bed with 20 18 year old models who all told me "I love you long time!" :wallbash:

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2011, 03:00:05 PM »
I'm not in a cave. I'm in an apartment in Odessa in bed with 20 18 year old models who all told me "I love you long time!" :wallbash:
You must be smoking some good stuff, or you are a delusional idiot. My money is on option B.  Have a good life with your delusions, you have absolutely nothing to contribute to this forum.
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2011, 03:00:18 PM »
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2011, 03:39:34 PM »
You must be smoking some good stuff, or you are a delusional idiot. My money is on option B.  Have a good life with your delusions, you have absolutely nothing to contribute to this forum.


Well bear, if so, he more than likely brought it in with him, risky of course.  Ukraine's home grown is nothing to write home about.



"Some agency employee was writing you using a model's photo and name."

Has anyone got proof of that? And what about when you are chatting with her and see her on the webcam? Also a hoax?

I think Anastasia doesn't want to (because of financial repercussions if exposed) and doesn't need to resort to that kind of scam.

I'm with you Harry.  I think all this stuff about Anastasia is made up.  I don't have any Anastasia ladies on my upcoming dance card or you can bet I would write back and report about the success I would be sure to have with them, but you Harry, I hope you will meet some of these women and post back to these guy's and let them know the truth.  Deal?



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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2011, 03:47:01 PM »
I'm not in a cave. I'm in an apartment in Odessa in bed with 20 18 year old models who all told me "I love you long time!" :wallbash:

Are you whining or bragging?

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2011, 04:21:34 PM »
I have spent lately more time and money than I should on a website called Anastasia.

I have heard strange stories. Some men have allegedly gone to Odessa to meet a girl whom they had been eagerly corresponding with. Then upon arrival he is told she is for some strange reason busy or unavailable. In fact a lot of girls he met online are "out of town", or he meets a girl however she is strangely cold. But then they do find one friendly girl, have a great time and possibly end up marrying.

So there are a lot of conflicting opinions - is Anastasia a scam? Are the girls scammers? Or maybe it's very legitimate?

Here's my theory.

A lot of real, actual, single, young, beautiful, but very poor, girls join Anastasia and get free photos taken by the agency, free Internet access, etc. (The American men are of course paying for this with all the huge Anastasia fees.) These girls have basically decided, if need be, to have sex with a man completely unattractive to them in exchange for a visa to America. In essence this is straight prostitution, except that it's a little more respectable since there is a marriage ceremony involved, she can claim she loved him (a 20 year old blonde model in love with a bald, fat man older than her father - Lol), etc.

Anyway, when the guy finally does land in Odessa, most girls just chicken out. They can't do it - to put it bluntly to be raped repeatedly for months, and pretend to like it, in order to get to America. However some girls can handle it and go through with it, have sex with the guy and maybe convince him to marry her.

Any thoughts??
I used Anastasia a few years ago, actually in 2005...a few of the guys were scammed out of 100's if not 1000's of dollars by women that didn't want to meet them when they arrived.   So yeah, I'd say the company has some shady ladies on the books.


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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2011, 05:07:59 PM »
I suspect the girls are real and did write the letters, pose for the photos, etc but then just didn't have the guts to hop in bed with Mr American Visa.

I am thinking half seriously about living in Odessa. Anything is possible. If I do I may be too exhausted to post anything however, with all the girls yelling (in Russian I guess) "Mister I love you longtime!"

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2011, 05:16:34 PM »
Right, I think some segment of Anastasia is a real marriage agency. One good question however might be - why fly  7,000 miles to find that nice lady with the kids? Go on match.com and drive probably 20 miles to meet her. And she'll speak English.


Perhaps someone has mentioned this already (haven't read the entire thread, just up to this quoted post)... kievstar had a pretty good sounding Anastasia methodology -- i.e., don't waste you time on the internet money game but rather just show up at say the Anastasia office in Kiev.. get in good with the staff, and they'll point you toward sincere women "within your league" (ambiguous term, but the best we have to describe it)... highly doubtful that it'll work all the time, doubtfully even most of the time... 


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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2011, 05:37:00 PM »
I think the truth with any international marriage is - the more attractive she is than a woman you could date locally, the more your are sliding into a "sex for visa" relationship, in other words a type of prostitution.

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2011, 05:45:09 PM »
I think the truth with any international marriage is - the more attractive she is than a woman you could date locally, the more your are sliding into a "sex for visa" relationship, in other words a type of prostitution.


That's often true in any relationship anywhere.  Hell, at the most basic level, all relationships are some form(s) of transaction(s) anyway (give and take --  transactions). 


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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2011, 07:52:57 AM »
 :ROFL:
 
Why are you guys taking this dude seriously?
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2011, 07:57:08 AM »
:ROFL:
 
Why are you guys taking this dude seriously?


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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #69 on: December 19, 2011, 08:22:58 AM »
Definitely agree with the others. I think he is just trolling......  :rolleyes2:
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2011, 09:27:49 AM »
Why? Because I'm not following the party line that Anastasia girls are pure and simple scammers who are paid by the hour to chat, while the letters are written by some guys in Kiev? Prove me wrong, but I personally doubt that story.

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #71 on: December 19, 2011, 10:05:54 AM »

So there are a lot of conflicting opinions - is Anastasia a scam? Are the girls scammers? Or maybe it's very legitimate?

A lot of real, actual, single, young, beautiful, but very poor, girls join Anastasia and get free photos taken by the agency, free Internet access, etc. (The American men are of course paying for this with all the huge Anastasia fees.)


It is a mix of all of the above. All the small agencies feed into the Anastasia monopoly. Some agencies are more honest than others and there are all types of women in all these small agencies. And yes, most agencies provide free photo sessions to the women which they will accept just to have nice pics.

Why? Because I'm not following the party line that Anastasia girls are pure and simple scammers who are paid by the hour to chat, while the letters are written by some guys in Kiev?

Many of the younger model looking women are paid to write letters and chat online. It is just a job for them. Very few women want a VISA. Most have a perfectly good life in Ukraine. In order to stay in business the small agencies need to feed into Anastasia. There are legit women, agency girls making a living, women there for the prizes or photos, prostitutes, etc. Some women in their twenties do marry guys who are 50, I know of one couple personally.

"Some agency employee was writing you using a model's photo and name."

Has anyone got proof of that? And what about when you are chatting with her and see her on the webcam? Also a hoax?

I think Anastasia doesn't want to (because of financial repercussions if exposed) and doesn't need to resort to that kind of scam.
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I logged in and have seen Anastasia's web interface and the women chatting for the most part are getting paid by their agencies who are paid by Anastasia. Anastasia will fine agencies if they catch them cheating but most of the time will play dumb as to what is occurring. If the women do not show up for dates the agency can be fined. Sometimes the women are busy with their boyfriends, etc.
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #72 on: December 19, 2011, 10:31:14 AM »
Chelseaboys posts are correct in the way it works with Anastasia as well.

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #73 on: December 19, 2011, 10:44:20 AM »
Why? Because I'm not following the party line that Anastasia girls are pure and simple scammers who are paid by the hour to chat, while the letters are written by some guys in Kiev? Prove me wrong, but I personally doubt that story.


Because you haven't a clue. You want Anastasia to be wrapped up and defined as the nice little package you've formulated in your mind that it should be from your perception without you ever getting off your ass and seeing for yourself. You want all the women of Anastasia to be stereo typed as you believe them to be from your interaction on their website. It's not reality, it's fantasy . It's your fantasy, just keep feeding it and believe what you want to believe. I see you as just another one of the 98% that never visit anyway.




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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #74 on: December 19, 2011, 10:51:52 AM »
Why? Because I'm not following the party line that Anastasia girls are pure and simple scammers who are paid by the hour to chat, while the letters are written by some guys in Kiev? Prove me wrong, but I personally doubt that story.

You came here to ask questions yet now you want to disagree with what all the others who have been thorugh all this have been telling you. Please Harry, by all means, do go ahead and continue with your fantasy. After all, it is your money......  :cluebat: :wallbash: :deadhorse: :popcorn:
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