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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2000 on: May 17, 2022, 01:24:16 PM »
Russia aint gonna back up, for reasons I explained above
they really have only one choice now
victory, by whatever means necessary
and if the first method failed
well then, bring on harsher methods
backing up would bring defeat and breakup the empire
an unacceptable condition
the propaganda is just a smokescreen

they also cant just remain where they are and play defense
because Ukraine will keep chipping away at them
and theyll suffer these losses for no gain

there is really just one choice
Russians can decide the specifics, the where and when and how many
but backup? Defeat?  No freakin way
but there may be a short term advantage in making the enemy think they are

young people in Ukraine, especially women should get iodine tablets
just sayin

Read a book called Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin

this book is about the earlier history of the same struggle going on now but in a different time and different players (but same game)

I took a shitload of drugs in Auschwitz and Baba-yar to help me get to their center (to help ignore the tourists and emotions)
because the only way to do that is to be in an "altered state"
once you see the path it left in the past, you can keep tracing it on into the future and see it there as well

If the Russians go down this path
the smart thing for them to do
is to wait for Ukraine to mobilize and deploy the reserves theyre building up
and THEN hit the Ukrainians with baby nukes
as well as Kiev
and the oblasts will all fall like dominoes
game over, when there aint no more central government and no more Ukrainian troops to stand in the way

Odesa would be an easy target for Novichok
sure, go hide in the catacombs

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2001 on: May 18, 2022, 07:59:43 AM »
Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2002 on: May 18, 2022, 09:38:56 AM »
Russian soldiers of the 70th Motorized Rifle Regiment of the 42nd Motor Rifle  Division,located in the Zaporizhzia region of Ukraine, openly refuse to take part in the war and demand to return to their homeland.


This is how Despotic Regimes start to fall apart...Nukes or not.


The Freedom Of Russia Legion has been in touch with the rebels and asked if they'd like to fight alongside fellow Russian soldiers against Putler and his Regime.


In other news two high-ranking Russian senior officials were this week assassinated in Melitopol by partizans..the Orc bodies continue to pile up in that particular Russian Occupied city.


and..looks like i was correct about the Azovstal fighters not being seen again after they surrendered to the Orcs...after the Russians changed the narrative about POW swaps to now holding trials and possibly executing them.


Zelensky was either incredibly naive about trusting the Orcs and telling his troops to surrender to them or they'd  run out of ammo and had no option.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2022, 09:58:13 AM by Chelseaboy »
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2003 on: May 18, 2022, 10:22:08 AM »
Mikael warned Russians about "information tranquilizers" in the video from Kremlin-TV (All Lies! All The Time!)
but this warning applies to both sides
don't you see how western media is giving you your daily fix of "victory"
so you continue to support the pushers
the one thing they're afraid of is people in the west getting tired of the war and losing interest

Russian wars always involve Russia having MASSIVE losses
but Russian perseverance is omnipotent
they ain't gonna give up over these losses
because such numbers are just "statistics"

the only thing that would be worse than a Russian victory in Ukraine
would be a Russian defeat
because that would lead to something much worse happening

"no army on earth, can stop an idea whose time has come"
Russia's future direction is dictated by things beyond their control
they have no choice but to do things that would sound insane to us
no choice...
so it's gonna happen
it all comes down to timing
it'll be sometime in the window of the fall of this year to early 2024


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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2004 on: May 18, 2022, 11:42:02 AM »
 A revolt within Russia would likely be very bad for the west.

This to me is an attempt weaken them,yet not so far as to destroy the current admin.

Either way I do agree their fate is unlikely  completely in thier hands through this.

Ideas have consequences, bad ideas have victims.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2005 on: May 18, 2022, 03:23:41 PM »
A lot of people having their whole lives destroyed in this war and being left in a dreadful state. This BBC news report highlights one of the most unfortunate individuals who has lost his entire family and hence pretty much all he had in life, I found it pretty explicit in showing how bad life can become overnight if unfortunate enough:

BBC News - Ukraine: The police officer who lost his family in one Russian strike
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61451469

They were showing the TV version on BBC News, the guy showed the TV crew all the way around where his family home was and how the poor chap found what had happened to his family. Pretty atrocious that someone has to endure all of that, I don't know how the guy has held it together so far, he's pretty much lost everything and is left alone, pretty much every one he knew and close to gone. Seemed surprisingly composed for the most part at least for the cameras I would guess. Still turning up for work by the looks of it, I'm not sure I would want to go on in his place but probably he's in an uncertain place and can't really register it. His wife looks like she was quite a stunner, if I managed to get a pretty girl like that I would be quite happy I would think. Anyhow thought it worth posting up for any non-UK guys on here as really brings home how bad some people can suffer out there and what the war can take away from them, in some cases their whole happy prior lives.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2006 on: May 18, 2022, 03:49:31 PM »
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2007 on: May 18, 2022, 04:29:31 PM »
Da!  together we oppose moose and squirrel!

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2008 on: May 19, 2022, 04:01:25 AM »
Sanctions against Russia now starting to cripple them.


Russia's Central Bank admits that sanctions have disrupted supply chains.


Weapons manufacturers suspending activity due to lack of parts.


Defence companies struggling to replace advanced tech.


Domestic vehicle sales fallen by 80% partly due to lack of components.


Russian crude oil exports down 30% in April and expected to fall further.


Russia forecast to have the deepest recession since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2009 on: May 19, 2022, 06:47:40 AM »
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2010 on: May 19, 2022, 07:12:28 AM »
Sanctions against Russia now starting to cripple them.
Russia's Central Bank admits that sanctions have disrupted supply chains.
Weapons manufacturers suspending activity due to lack of parts.
Defence companies struggling to replace advanced tech.
Domestic vehicle sales fallen by 80% partly due to lack of components.
Russian crude oil exports down 30% in April and expected to fall further.
Russia forecast to have the deepest recession since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

All above may be true but . . . Russia has captured a lot of ground and will be executing a lot of Ukrainians that surrendered.

I am surprised that any of the guys who had Nazi tatoos did not just kill themselves rather than surrender.  Would be better for them.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2011 on: May 19, 2022, 02:27:44 PM »
All above may be true but . . . Russia has captured a lot of ground and will be executing a lot of Ukrainians that surrendered.

I am surprised that any of the guys who had Nazi tatoos did not just kill themselves rather than surrender.  Would be better for them.


There was more fighting at the Azovstal Plant today..with more airstrikes from the Orcs again.


Deputy Commander of the Azov Regiment "Kalina" recorded a video in which he said he's still at the Azovstal Plant .


"The operation continues ,the details of which i will not disclose ".. were his words.


It's quite possible that none of the Azov Battalion surrendered ..for the reason you posted...they will probably choose to go down fighting and take as many of the Orcs with them as possible.


It's what i'd do .


It was probably the Marines,Border Guards and the Police who surrendered.


Yes the Orcs have captured a lot of ground,although not as much as they expected to.


The big question is can they hold the ground they captured ?


They couldn't in the Kyiv or Kharkiv areas...and now a lot more weapons will be flooding to the Ukrainian troops from the West...with a million more Ukrainian men chomping at the bit to be mobilized.
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2012 on: May 19, 2022, 03:04:07 PM »
Reports coming in that the Marines and Jets based at Miramar and also the 82nd Airborne NC and Navy  out of Richmond VA are prepping for something.


Feedback given from locals is that's it's very reminiscent of the early prepping that was done before they went into Afghanistan and Iraq.


Read into that what you will.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2013 on: May 19, 2022, 04:04:52 PM »
"Richmond VA" I remember cruising up the James River in my Dad's boat when I was a kid, but not as far as Richmond cuz it's too shallow
so I assume you mean Norfolk, VA, which is the US NAVY HQ of the East Coast, made famous by signs that read, "Sailors and Dogs, Keep Off the Grass"

I suspect they're going to deploy a carrier, the aptly named "USS George Bush" probably to the Baltic, and will add a few thousand marines and airborne to Poland to supplement what's already there

these numbers by themselves are insignificant
it does mean that the USA thinks things are gonna get "hotter" and not "cooler"
and possibly the ground forces might be used for training and support for future massive weapons delivery
but a force this isze is NOT for offensive operations, unless it keeps building like this every week

so calm down...
or you're gonna force me to show you my collection of Crimean War era English coins I dug up metal detecting from scouting the location of Florence Nightengale's Field Hospital on the outskirts of Sevastopol
where most of the British soldiers died of Cholera and not battle wounds

when given an elixer of opium to control the Diarrhea
one soldier said the treatment was very effective, "I shit thee not"

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2014 on: May 19, 2022, 04:27:53 PM »
Prepping also happening at Lejuene it's now reported by locals.


The Crimean War..another war noted for it's brutality.


Have you had those coins valued Krim ?




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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2015 on: May 19, 2022, 04:54:16 PM »
no... but I don't think they're too valuable...
British soldiers were quite poor, so most common coin was a Victorian Penny, which REALLY made my detector ring!!
t'was more fun detecting for Greek coins at Chersonese, got quite a few of those as well, also mosstly bronze

to get "good stuff" you had to do some of that "midnight archeology" and loot a necropolis, I found three of those from Greek and Byzantine period
and detected them at night
I used to have SO MUCH damned fun in Crimea, detecting and "bunker diving"
nude girls at the beach was just icing on the cake
what a fun life I had then

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2016 on: May 19, 2022, 07:23:30 PM »
Yes the Orcs have captured a lot of ground,although not as much as they expected to.
The big question is can they hold the ground they captured ?
They couldn't in the Kyiv or Kharkiv areas...

I don't think too much crowing should be done over the Kyiv and Kharkiv developments.

As I saw it . . . Russian forces pulled back because they weren't advancing as they wanted to and could better be deployed elsewhere . . . not because Ukrainian forces were driving them out.

Yes, they didn't achieve their immediate objective . . . but they weren't driven away.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2017 on: May 20, 2022, 01:04:55 AM »
Possible war scenarios-

http://archive.ph/AD65V
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2018 on: May 20, 2022, 06:32:24 AM »
Possible war scenarios-

http://archive.ph/AD65V

A thorough analysis.  Thanks for posting.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2019 on: May 20, 2022, 07:32:09 AM »
I don't think too much crowing should be done over the Kyiv and Kharkiv developments.

As I saw it . . . Russian forces pulled back because they weren't advancing as they wanted to and could better be deployed elsewhere . . . not because Ukrainian forces were driving them out.

Yes, they didn't achieve their immediate objective . . . but they weren't driven away.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2020 on: May 20, 2022, 07:58:48 AM »
When the laws of genetics are laid down, mutations will be born

and because of that, the presented analysis is too general, the devil dwells in the details

moy druzya, let me introduce you to the Neutron Bomb
 
A Kinder, Gentler Nuke
a smaller, "fun-sized" version of a hydrogen bomb with a few simple modifications under the hood.
It will convert 80% of its energy into a radiation burst, instead of 5% for a small fission bomb
For a one-kiloton Enhanced Radiation bomb detonated at 1,500 feet, the required lethal dose would cover an area of about 0.8 square miles
and BTW, a neutron bomb is almost exactly the same as a small EMP bomb
easy, peasy to deploy a few km away from your own forces who can be prewarned to protect themselves, a luxury Ukrainians wont be given
and Russian psy-ops will be hitting western media with how a kinder gentler nuke aint really no big thing to get all worked up about, cuz they do little damage, much less than what was done to Melitopol, for example, so they are just tryin to end this inhumane war started by fascists, well just like the USA did in 1945

hmmmm hmmmm.

Of course, Novichok could win out instead of kinder gentler nukes
itd only take 100 kg of the most lethal version of Novichok to cover the same area as a Nice Nuke
theyd be loaded into a cluster type of munition and fitted to a cruise missile or ballistic missile
but the troops who perform this operation must be skilled at it, or theyre all gonna die, whichd only be a problem for them, and not the high command, so might be worth a try

in short, it aint over til the fat lady sings, and weve only seen the first act of this shit show
the second is yet to come

Postscript

Senate has approved a $40 billion package to send emergency aid to Ukraine. The final vote was 86 -11. All Democrats supported the legislation. 11 Republican senators voted against.
House already approved, only Republicans were against there as well
so, it's pretty much a done deal!
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2021 on: May 21, 2022, 01:27:09 AM »
This BBC news article seems a pretty good update on where the strategic situation is at in Ukraine at the moment:

BBC News - Ukraine war: What might tip the balance?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61524175

Both sides seem to fighting each other pretty much to a standstill. Russia has retreated from Kharkiv, but has made slight gains in Donbas & pretty much just taken Mariupol. Mariupol is pretty much destroyed so won't be of much use to Russia in the short term at least. Meanwhile Russian troop losses are again reaching the point where they won't be strong enough to advance much further.

Ukraine on the other hand is getting heavy weapon howitzers from the west but as the report points out seems to hiding it's troop losses, that has been a issue which it has done all along only briefly once stating them I believe. Now though the report reckons they are higher than they had been before, they are probably right. Ukraine no doubt wants to keep up morale so it won't want that to ebb away with news if troop losses.

As a result potentially both sides may now be reaching a position of stalemate.

In the meantime, both Finland & Sweden have joined Nato and also signed mutual assistance agreements with the UK. Moldova has been highlighted as a vulnerable nation by the UK's Liz Truss and I think she is right and odds are will receive assistance and possible Nato membership as well, it's a small country so it would mostly be a case of protecting a small amount of extra territory so not a big deal but handy to stop further Russian land grabs in the future.

I think this Russia-Ukraine war has really changed Britain's position in Europe. Overnight we've gone from an ex-EU State setting out our own way forward post Brexit to a Superpower in Europe, a key player that East European nations are eager to get onside eclipsing even the EU in stature.Things haven't been that way since 1945 and the loss of Empire but it looks like after all these years we are back and currently the most powerful country within Europe.

So stalemate seems to be the way the Russia-Ukraine war is going. Unless one side can break this stalemate then who knows how long this war may drag on for. We're almost back to a war confined to the Donbas region. The economy of both countries may be pivotal, both as the report points out are declining but Ukraine is suffering badly on this front, when winter comes it may hit Ukrainians hard. Whether Ukrainians will stay in Ukraine or try to go to Europe to escape the effects of a worsening economic situation who knows but it's increasingly looking likely the situation in Ukraine may drag on for quite some time with the jury still out on who the winner will be.

What does seem increasingly clear is that Russia seeks to be after grabbing land for itself now and any land gains will likely end up more or less as permanent additions to Russian territory unless they can be win back. Ukrainian territory becoming part of Russia is not something I would want to see.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2022 on: May 21, 2022, 10:40:08 PM »
Trench, did you offer your spare rooms to any Ukrainian refugees?

I thought you might have been one of those blokes on FB offering a room/bed to UKR women in exchange for getting your leg over?
Plus getting paid 350 a month? Not an inconsequential sun fir you.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2023 on: May 22, 2022, 01:03:15 AM »
Trench, did you offer your spare rooms to any Ukrainian refugees?

I thought you might have been one of those blokes on FB offering a room/bed to UKR women in exchange for getting your leg over?
Plus getting paid 350 a month? Not an inconsequential sun fir you.

Not yet Gaunty, I was one of the first to sign up just in case but it's up to the signee to follow through as and when. Yes I saw there was a load of feminists already ranting on and tying to discriminate about 'single men' involvement in the scheme. They are thinking with their feminist western mindset of hostility towards men & sex and don't realise FSW view sex as no big thing.

Anyhow nah not been able to offer a Ukrainian girl a room yet, still need to finish off my place which will largely be do t by end of July. The good news with the scheme is that it can be done in addition to the rent a room allowance scheme for lodgers. So that means I can have 2 lodgers that will bring in 866 roughly a month then another 350 a month for the Ukrainian without my house being classed as a HMO (House of Multiple Occupation) and hence facing a lot more regulation and taxes.

I am cautious though as the 350 a month is given as a 'thank you' from the UK government for up to 12 months. Officially the room is rent free and you're not allowed to charge rent for the room under the scheme. So knowing how cunning the UK gov can be I'm wondering if after the 12 months the same might be true, the Ukrainian continues living their rent free and cannot be kicked out but the home owner loses the 350 thank you payment as after one year. I personally can't see them saying that ok it's alright to kick them out as where are they supposed to go? It will create a problem for the government as to where to house them (apart from possibly a few relatively small new comers to the scheme). They may not also get housing benefit or be under any inclination to give it if they do. So I'm not sure many people have seen that and may get stung by that if it goes that way.

Myself I don't need to impose myself on any Ukrainian girl I can go of and find one to my liking abroad somewhere not in the western world where feminists are on a witch hunt holding up the bogey man of the single male as the great evil. To me the 350 would be all that I need be interested in, I can do without having fingers pointed at me by feminists as it's easy enough for me to go abroad and avoid all that.To be honest it would probably be in the Ukrainian girl's interest to get with a single UK guy who owns their own property, it's a good deal for them, up to her though. End of the day any girl could be placed and I don't know if she would be hot or ugly and as you know I don't do ugly girls ;D I'm not even sure if I would get a girl now as a result of feminists creating all this stink over single men offering a room. I would pass a DBS check but it wouldn't surprise me that despite so called 'equality' that we are supposed to have in this country that single men get discriminated against on all this entirely now. I kind of knew shortly after the scheme was launched that the feminists would create an uproar on men trying it on with Ukrainian girls and would be an urge better off taken abroad they always do, know doubt many lesbians who despise straight men getting to women they see as needing 'protection' in their comforting arms.

Anyway, will see how it goes on that one, I may still see depending on whether single men are allowed to be a part of the scheme or been excluded based solely on our gender. The extra money of course would come in handy but it's not something I'm counting on.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2024 on: May 22, 2022, 05:22:31 AM »
It's quite possible that none of the Azov Battalion surrendered
OMG.

The delusion is strong. I know you don't like Russian military actions but stay in touch with reality.



Apparently ALL of them have now surrendered (in Azovstal).

The food crisis is heating up globally. Europe is attempting to starve the Ukrainians as much as the Russians by emptying UA food stores. Small problem for the Europeans - it has to be transported via Belarus, and the Baltic ports aren't designed for such exports... so may need to be exported via... Saint Petersburg!
 :cluebat:

The European leaders are utterly clueless. Just about fell out of my chair laughing at Turkey and Croatia's responses to Sweden and Finland's applications for NATO membership. Pat - I hope you're ready for the next French revolution! You'll own/eat/have nothing and like it!

 

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