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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3250 on: August 23, 2023, 11:12:18 AM »
Apparently it looks like he was:

Via Euronews: Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin reportedly killed in plane crash en route from Moscow
http://www.euronews.com/2023/08/23/wagner-mercenary-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-killed-in-plane-crash

Looks like the Kremlin got to him and knocked him off as I said they would. Silly off him aborting the coup and going for a 'deal' lol. Knew how that one would end better to just take your chances in that situation once the ball is in play.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3251 on: August 23, 2023, 11:15:05 AM »
Apparently it looks like he was:

Via Euronews: Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin reportedly killed in plane crash en route from Moscow
http://www.euronews.com/2023/08/23/wagner-mercenary-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-killed-in-plane-crash

Looks like the Kremlin got to him and knocked him off as I said they would. Silly off him aborting the coup and going for a 'deal' lol. Knew how that one would end better to just take your chances in that situation once the ball is in play.


Only eight bodies recovered out of the ten listed as being on board though.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3252 on: August 23, 2023, 11:39:23 AM »
If Prigozhin is confirmed dead,seems the orc military is not going to take the news very well at all..going by their telegram channels.


The Wagnerites in Syria are going mental . >:D
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3253 on: August 23, 2023, 11:46:31 AM »
The two missing persons stepped out of the plane for a smoke and avoided the crash.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3254 on: August 23, 2023, 01:00:14 PM »
The two missing persons stepped out of the plane for a smoke and avoided the crash.

Those must have been mighty big steps.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3255 on: August 23, 2023, 01:21:52 PM »
a bad week for aviation in russia
ah wonder what else might happen this week...

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3256 on: August 23, 2023, 02:20:23 PM »
If Prigozhin is confirmed dead,seems the orc military is not going to take the news very well at all..going by their telegram channels.


The Wagnerites in Syria are going mental . >:D

Pretty much so, they're aviation authority is now confirming he was on board:

http://edition.cnn.com/webview/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-08-23-23?adobe_mc

Probably a sabotage job or something like that.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3257 on: August 23, 2023, 04:10:43 PM »
The plot thickens.


A second Prigozhin-owned private jet ,which was accompanying the one that crashed,has landed in Moscow.


Putler's motorcade,flanked by many police cars,filmed racing through the streets of Moscow heading for the Kremlin tonight.


Meanwhile Wagner soldiers in Belarus release a statement.


"There's a lot of talk right now about what the Wagner Group will do.We can tell you one thing.We are getting started,get ready for us."


Of course there are nukes in Belarus now. >:D
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3258 on: August 23, 2023, 05:32:03 PM »
The plot thickens.


A second Prigozhin-owned private jet ,which was accompanying the one that crashed,has landed in Moscow.


Putler's motorcade,flanked by many police cars,filmed racing through the streets of Moscow heading for the Kremlin tonight.


Meanwhile Wagner soldiers in Belarus release a statement.


"There's a lot of talk right now about what the Wagner Group will do.We can tell you one thing.We are getting started,get ready for us."


Of course there are nukes in Belarus now. >:D

Not a bad article on the situation here:

http://news.italy24.press/trends/804227.html

Prigozhin was stupid firstly in not going all the way with the coup and secondly by not laying low and out of sight by taking no obvious risks such as this. Prigozhin acted in a callous way to the recruits he got from the prisons yet I think many saw him more capable a military leader than Gerasimov, Shoigu and some others. So possible threat from Wagner if they don't break up and possibly even elements of the army some who may have been sympathetic to Prigozhin. That or possible loss of morale in the Russian Army. Before this happened there were reports of several hundred mercenaries going missing in Belarus without Belarus or Russia being sure where they had gone, so a possible threat.

All depends what happens from here, either a fizzling out of Wagner or some sort of action. Odds are apart from Russia trying to absorb Wagner fighters into the Russian Army if it can odds are we have probably seen the end of Wagner on the battlefield in Ukraine, possibly the end of Wagner itself.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3259 on: August 24, 2023, 03:02:24 AM »
Budanov has now confirmed the defection story i posted on here previously.


He told Radio Svoboda the details of the operation.


They "found the right approach to the pilot,created conditions to secretly evacuate his entire family ,and ultimately made it so that he could move this helicopter with a crew that had no idea what was happening ".


Besides the pilot there were two other people on board.When they realized where they landed they tried to flee.


"Unfortunately they were eliminated.We would have liked to take them alive,but it is what it is.The pilot is feeling great,he's doing well ."


The helicopter is currently in Kyiv,and no-one is holding the pilot behind bars.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3260 on: August 24, 2023, 03:26:57 AM »
GUR Airborne forces have landed in Crimea.


GUR units have today made a landing in Crimea as part of a special operation on the Cape Tarkhankut -confirmed GUR representative Yusov.


According to him all tasks within the special operation were completed.Notably this is the very cape where the S-400 was destroyed yesterday.


Orcs are already complaining that "nobody was destroyed and the Ukrainian saboteurs left without losses . "


Media reported that since 5 in the morning ,near the settlement of Mayak on the Cape Tarkhankut ,explosions could be heard. In the village of Mayak is the base of the 3rd Radio Technical Regiment.Also on the Tarkanhut peninsular is the Radar node RLK "Sky-M"and RLS "Kasta-2E2".


Russians are writing about ten Ukrainian saboteurs who arrived in boats and opened fire.


There are no losses amomg the GUR personnel ,but there are losses among the orcs personnel,as well as it's forces and means.


Meanwhile the special operation continues-Yusov.


Good to know the UK Royal Marines training of Ukrainian troops is being put to good use. ;D
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3261 on: August 24, 2023, 03:43:44 AM »
"We have the ability to hit any part of temporarily occupied Crimea as of now.We can reach the enemy at absolutely any point.Those who have done stupid things,it is better for them to leave ",head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanov said in a statement.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3262 on: August 25, 2023, 08:18:18 AM »
verily, for it is written,
that those who live by the sledge hammer
will also die by the sledge hammer

you can deny the coming calamities
but they're gonna come anyway
the difference is, YOU won't be prepared
and those who understand, will be

Wagner's 2nd in command body confirmed by his "Nazi tattoos" LOL
I guess it takes one nazi to fight another one...

so in order to prevent maidan from happening in Russia
and secure more riches for the oligarchs
Putin's efforts have instead created the ideal conditions for Maidan to happen in Russia
and the potential for oligarchs to lose their riches
putin is an arsonist, who has accidentally set fire to himself, while trying to burn down his neighbor's house to steal their property and kidnap their children

when protest is outlawed
only outlaws will protest
in outlaw style

when the cauldron is heated enuff and starts to boil
it just takes a little spark to catalyze the reaction

Maidan was launched in kyiv with a single tweet
 
seeing this possibility crawl towards reality
and based on what pretty much the entire population of russia is feeling and experiencing
selling the idea of nukes to the russian people
will be not a problem, as long as it's presented as "The Final Solution" for the Ukrainian "Problem"

dey's gonna be leetle tiny nukes
ain't no need to go all "strategic" forces, yada, yada, launch the minuteman! no, no, Russia is gonna "soft sell" those leetle nukes
the usa no longer has a tactical nuke strategy
Russia ALWAYS did
'tis but another idea, one of many, whose time is approaching

Biden's strategy is to ensure minimum risk to the USA
he ain't gonna use nukes in response

and whatever military action he does commit to
will end after Russia blames the attack on Ukrainians as well as NATO
and putin uses another mini nuke on a ukrainian civilian target as a reprisal for NATO's viloation of Russian territorial integrity
and tells NATO, this is tit-for-tat from now on
so go ahead and cry "havoc" and let slip the dogs of war
that sword cuts both ways
and the Russian side of the blade is MUCH sharper thatn Ukraine/NATO's side

it's like the Mexican "New Generation Cartel" who likes to slaughter whole bus loads of locals who don't bow deeply enough
vrs Barney Fife and Andy

Cartels don't play by "Mayberry" rules!
don't matter if they is Mexican or Russian

Russians consider me a "tekhnical" and not a "politikal"
the distinction is irrelevant
cuz they're actually both math based
and I'm REAL GOOD at math


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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3263 on: August 25, 2023, 09:14:03 AM »
verily, for it is written,
that those who live by the sledge hammer
will also die by the sledge hammer

you can deny the coming calamities
but they're gonna come anyway
the difference is, YOU won't be prepared
and those who understand, will be

Wagner's 2nd in command body confirmed by his "Nazi tattoos" LOL
I guess it takes one nazi to fight another one...

so in order to prevent maidan from happening in Russia
and secure more riches for the oligarchs
Putin's efforts have instead created the ideal conditions for Maidan to happen in Russia
and the potential for oligarchs to lose their riches, and just be ordinary Russians
a prospect that terrifies them all

when protest is outlawed
only outlaws will protest

when the cauldron is heated enuff and starts to boil
it just takes a little spark to catalyze the reaction

Maidan was launched in kyiv with a single tweet
 
seeing this possibility crawl towards reality
and based on what pretty much the entire population of russia is feeling and experiencing
selling the idea of nukes to the russian people
will be not a problem

dey's gonna be leetle tiny nukes
ain't no need to go all "strategic" forces, yada, yada, launch the minuteman! no, no, Russia is gonna "soft sell" those leetle nukes
the usa no longer has a tactical nuke strategy
Russia ALWAYS did
'tis but another idea, one of many, whose time is approaching

Biden's strategy is to ensure minimum risk to the USA
he ain't gonna use nukes in response

and whatever military action he does commit to
will end after Russia blames the attack on Ukrainians as well as NATO
and putin uses another mini nuke on a ukrainian civilian target as a reprisal for NATO's viloation of Russian territorial integrity
and tells NATO, this is tit-for-tat from now on
so go ahead and cry "havoc" and let slip the dogs of war
that sword cuts both ways
and the Russian side of the blade is MUCH sharper thatn Ukraine/NATO's side

it's like the Mexican "New Generation Cartel" who likes to slaughter whole bus loads of locals who don't bow deeply enough
vrs Barney Fife and Andy

Cartels don't play by "Mayberry" rules!
don't matter if they is Mexican or Russian

Presumably Putler can use the same technique to gain control of Moldova, Georgia and the Stans. Either they agree to join the Russian Federation or it's mini nukes followed up by Russian Army invasion. I wouldn't like to be a non-nuclear, non-NATO member in this day and age. Shame Ukraine decided to foolishly give up it's nukes it would be in a state of peace and tranquility if it had not.

Potential for NATO to extend membership to Moldova, Georgia and even the Stans while there is still time if it wanted to but doesn't look like it does.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3264 on: August 25, 2023, 09:44:26 AM »
if it were up to me
i'd allow American pilots who want to be highly paid "volunteers" fly for Ukraine in American F-16s, A-10s etc, as "Flying Tigers" circa WWII with China
technically, it is illegal for them to do so now...and the pilots are motivated by big $$$ that ukraine really can't afford, we could change that in an hour

Russia STILL has a MASSIVE wealth outflow to the west, to escape the economic/currency problems at home, in the past yr, there was over a 200 billion USD outflow
every bit of this money is oligarch money
the West should get a giant forensics accounting team together
and I'd grab every single cent, and put it into a trust for the people of Ukraine
and that'll have a bigger effect on the war, than 100 F-16s piloted by Tom Cruise
but western banks have prevented ya from doin that
they're lookin after their client's money with the appropriate fiduciary responsibility
banks ALL LOVE CARTELS!!!


so Trench-foot,
have ya thought about the idea of hitting the "reset button" on your life
and make one final attempt at finding your good fortune...
through the process of "personal redemption" through selfless sacrifice for others
nudge...nudge...wink...wink...

taking off 6 months to a yr to "serve" in Ukraine
won't cost ya much, while you're renting out your place
you'll live "rough" in Ukraine
get your own koshka, it'll look good on your Utube channel
englishman and cat deliver food and medicine
awwwwww. so cute


then when ya return to "jolly ole..."
you haz woman, with some kinda professional skill
and you has small income from property

ain't nothin preventing you from moving to greener pasture
than your village
nothin tying you there
two of you will be job seekers in London
i'd imagine, that after a year there, the two of you together will have about 3X the income compared to when you were working in yo mama's village

but that'd be an awful lot of work...
you'll think about it tomorrow...

putin has a diminishing possibility of once more assisting Trump into the white house...
this decreasing probability, means he can't rely on it
OTOH, he'd prefer this approach to a plutonium one
depending on the probability of success he may wait to use the nuke until after the election
OTOH, the ideal time, would be right BEFORE the election

and give Trump a carefully written/rehearsed speech beforehand, a la Manchurian candidate
and conspire to DO BOTH!!!!  hard to predict which'd be more damaging to the west, nuke or trump

what a coup that' be
a crazy plot worthy off a spy novel
but it was in 2016 as well

would Biden commit to a military escalation course of action, right before the election?
I reckon it depends what the polls say
so Russia will target public support in the disinformatze space

i'd like to see the russian focus group analysis and projected poll numbers for this
I hope it's not Deripaska doing this again

who's gonna run the Internet Research Agency now...
twitter/musk is pro-oligarch, so that'll be one of the main conduits
and Tucker Carlson






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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3265 on: August 25, 2023, 12:07:46 PM »
so Trench-foot,
have ya thought about the idea of hitting the "reset button" on your life
and make one final attempt at finding your good fortune...
through the process of "personal redemption" through selfless sacrifice for others
nudge...nudge...wink...wink...

taking off 6 months to a yr to "serve" in Ukraine
won't cost ya much, while you're renting out your place
you'll live "rough" in Ukraine
get your own koshka, it'll look good on your Utube channel
englishman and cat deliver food and medicine
awwwwww. so cute


then when ya return to "jolly ole..."
you haz woman, with some kinda professional skill
and you has small income from property

ain't nothin preventing you from moving to greener pasture
than your village
nothin tying you there
two of you will be job seekers in London
i'd imagine, that after a year there, the two of you together will have about 3X the income compared to when you were working in yo mama's village

but that'd be an awful lot of work...
you'll think about it tomorrow...

Was thinking about it last night, not Ukraine but Moldova. The house is taking longer than expected as usual. It's getting there and is mostly down to small jobs but every job seems to take longer than hoped. Ukraine would mean finishing the house first and while I should definitely be done before Christmas it's like I say still running on. A lot of the issue is I can't get more than a few days each week to work at it as have to do my job as well to bring the money in to pay for it all. Time over again I would have just done a quicker conversion job, it would bring in less money monthly) smaller rooms no ensuite toilets) but I would have been done in about a year. Still it will look nicer and better when done and something that should be easier to rely upon for money and build upon by eventually having my hands free from having to work for an Employer.

Issues remain at present beyond the house thing. I still wouldn't be seen as all that wealthy in comparison to some in the UK and while I don't want a woman on the basis of that it can be a bit of a thorn in the side. I mean in time I will able to be able to afford a better car so it won't show as easily at the moment my car is kind of an aging supermini in not too great looking shape but it serves purpose of getting me around while I don't have any money to get something better. Once the house is done I can get something better so that will look better. At the moment it probably only serves as an illustration of where I'm at financially to women. It's kind of funny how many women will take a guy's job, car he drives and peg him based on that (possibly clothes also) when he could in fact be doing quite a lot better for himself than they think. A lot of jobs in the UK you get much the same no matter what you do but women still use the old fashioned job status method in their workings.

So frustrating at the moment. Just trying to work something out. I could get out to Moldova for a few days, price has gone up a bit as Wizz Air have stopped flying there and the other airlines are a bit more so it looks like the price including hotel will be about £500 or so. Then cost of getting to the airport, parking, money to spend while out there so I would guess at £700-800 for about three full days out there. So it's something I've got to weigh up a bit. Time doesn't seem to be on my side as only so long before Ukraine and probably Moldova following it go. That would then take the easy options (at least as they once were) of the table and leave me with Russia (visa), Belarus (long flight around) possibly Georgia (depending how long for & religious) and then the Stans left. So potentially the good easy times of going out to Ukraine gone if things go the way we think they are going to go.

Perhaps I should have learned Spanish ::)
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3266 on: August 25, 2023, 12:21:56 PM »
soft spoken English gentleman will have a hard time with Latinas and Latins, i'd recommend them europeans for you Anglos
it's like the difference between europan honey bees and african killer honey bees
just would't recommend latinas for ya, they are VOLATILE and won't mix well with someone more "reserved"
but you could have a good travel adventure and a LOT of fun there

so the answer is NO to you trying to break out of your rut...
same ole...same ole...

what is it they say, about repeating the same failed ideas
but expecting a different outcome...

you are resistant to any course of action that requires risk and change
so you are unable to entertain any improvements to your life
because you'd be required to climb out of the rut and take risks and make changes

you blame the world for your bad fortune
but the world didn't make this decision, YOU DID

everything I've gotten in this life, came from taking risks, and working as hard as I could to succeed
the worst thing a guy can do, is to spend the rest of his life in his home village, where he's "comfortable"
doncha see that Trench, and what this has done to your sense of ambition?
you have none...
you just wanna maintain the comfort zone
your lifestyle decision, just ain't compatible with you finding a woman
and this "problem" ain't because of geography
it's because of your "psychology"

and now I will smack you with the Zen of Enlightenment
SWACK!!




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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3267 on: August 26, 2023, 03:50:23 AM »
Ukrainian forces believe they have broken through the most difficult line of Russian defences in the south and will now be able to advance more quickly ,a Commander fighting in the south told Reuters.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3268 on: August 26, 2023, 07:05:09 AM »
ukraine has roughly 2 more months of good weather...
and then their advance will slow...
they will not be able to cut-off crimea this yr

putin, would never, never "make it" as a comedian or musician
his sense of "timing" is way, way, off
he coulda done all this when Trump was in office and had a TOTALLY different outcome
but..
timing over North Stream (LOL!!!)

however, if Ukraine DOES succeed in cutting off Crimea, NEXT YEAR
then the time will come to him

and by the time the first tactical mini/micro nuke goes off
Ukraine will realize too late, that:
"Nothing Fails Like Success"



Everyone outside Russia, has their own bias about Russia's potential use of nukes
they are misreading the signs
Russian "nuke talking" ain't for some kinda propaganda
it's partly to "psyche themselves" up for it
and brainwash the people intto WANTING IT!!
Russian nukes will get out those hard to clean Ukrainian stains

Russia has a history of nuking their own people (even deliberately) MANY times during the Soviet Period
history ALWAYS repeats, until humans learn something from it
they rarely do

the "cost" of a Russian defeat in Ukraine
is much higher than the cost of the war
and the "return" on a Russian victory in Ukraine
is also much higher than the cost of the war
and this is why it continues

check with "accounting" and see if this isn't so

Putin's plan for nuking Amerika...
is ju jitsu and not nuclear karate
if he can pull off another Trump campaign win

he and Trump will kiss the American government "good bye"
hey, hey, hey, goodbye
it SEEMS like an insurmountable task to hoist Trump back up on the presidential pedastal
it'll take a lot more this time, than hacking emails and bribing the FBI
2016 they made mistakes with Flynn and Manafort, that was the beginning of the downfall

2024 is gonna be a small historical inflection point
the bigger ones are still aways down the road
religious people will all say that humanity deseves what's coming for their sins
I ain't religious, but this is one of the few things I am in agreement with...

the older I get, the more I despise my species

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3269 on: August 27, 2023, 07:59:50 AM »
ukraine has roughly 2 more months of good weather...
and then their advance will slow...
they will not be able to cut-off crimea this yr

putin, would never, never "make it" as a comedian or musician
his sense of "timing" is way, way, off
he coulda done all this when Trump was in office and had a TOTALLY different outcome
but..
timing over North Stream (LOL!!!)

however, if Ukraine DOES succeed in cutting off Crimea, NEXT YEAR
then the time will come to him

and by the time the first tactical mini/micro nuke goes off
Ukraine will realize too late, that:
"Nothing Fails Like Success"



Everyone outside Russia, has their own bias about Russia's potential use of nukes
they are misreading the signs
Russian "nuke talking" ain't for some kinda propaganda
it's partly to "psyche themselves" up for it
and brainwash the people intto WANTING IT!!
Russian nukes will get out those hard to clean Ukrainian stains

Russia has a history of nuking their own people (even deliberately) MANY times during the Soviet Period
history ALWAYS repeats, until humans learn something from it
they rarely do

the "cost" of a Russian defeat in Ukraine
is much higher than the cost of the war
and the "return" on a Russian victory in Ukraine
is also much higher than the cost of the war
and this is why it continues

check with "accounting" and see if this isn't so

Putin's plan for nuking Amerika...
is ju jitsu and not nuclear karate
if he can pull off another Trump campaign win

he and Trump will kiss the American government "good bye"
hey, hey, hey, goodbye
it SEEMS like an insurmountable task to hoist Trump back up on the presidential pedastal
it'll take a lot more this time, than hacking emails and bribing the FBI
2016 they made mistakes with Flynn and Manafort, that was the beginning of the downfall

2024 is gonna be a small historical inflection point
the bigger ones are still aways down the road
religious people will all say that humanity deseves what's coming for their sins
I ain't religious, but this is one of the few things I am in agreement with...

the older I get, the more I despise my species

I assume yo mama's village will be safe with all these inflections inflecting away from the UK?

Please tell me the shire shall be safe Master Frodo?

Yeah I think the Ukrainian offensive is now dead in the water, we keep hearing about how they have made a significant breakthrough in the south but little sign of any actual significant advancement. Winter as you say will soon be setting in and with it any hope of Ukraine delivering in their much lauded counter offensive.

I've got stuff to sort out that's for sure. House has to be done before any venture off abroad. Hopefully not much longer now it's starting to look good but good takes time. Still considering a trip to Moldova while the warm weather is still around. It would be handy to scout out the terrain and see if I can turf up any decent women. I think that is really possible this time even though time would be limited.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3270 on: August 27, 2023, 08:51:30 AM »
Trench, why you so worried?
your life is probably more than half over ALREADY
if I were you, I'd be far more worried about LIVING than I would be about DYING
once you're dead - you ain't got NO worries mate!

another day, another Russian official dies in a plane crash, this is how they tell time in Russia now, "I saw her 3 dead generals ago"
Putin will read their Eulogy

Trench, Ukraine's strategy HAS NOT been a failure!
they were in an ideal spot in Bakhmut to DEVASTATE russians
the terrain, plus the "not one step back" made Bakhmut a shooting gallery
and Ukraine got rid of a LOT of Russia's ability to inflict casualties on them
Ukraine HAS to fight this way, cuz they ain't quite the size of the Anglo-American Army on D-Day
Russians OUTNUMBER them in EVERY WAY
Ukraine's military strategy is called "subtraction"
once they get the total down to some "threshold"
then you'll see some action
but there's a long, long way to go


the Ukrainian offensive's goal is to encircle Crimea like it was Leningrad back in '42
the big problem with this is best explained by chess:
this move is CHECK but not CHECKMATE
and when you put Putin in CHECK
is when he will immediately CHECKMATE YOU (like Prigozhin!)

ya wanna hear America's plan to respond to a Russian nuke?
they're gonna attack the Black Sea Fleet and air bases in Crimea (Russian territory!) with conventional weapons
there will be Russian civilian casualties
Ukrainians will be gloating on Russian TV
Russian blood pressure be like a thermometer so hot mercury shoots out the top

the next day Putinuh takes out the golden key
and opens the box the devil gave him
and everybody in a big city in Ukraine dies almost instantly
including their dogs, cats, and pet birds
it's called a tactical neutron bomb
it kills by a neutron burst at detonation
a big ass flash in the sky, some windows break
and within 2 km everyone is dead
your move NATO...

and BTW, when Putin sees endless videos of the Ukrainian city he killed
he completely LOSES IT!!!

Then guess what happens NEXT, you dumb ass western phuquers?
ya shoulda just let "us" work out the details of the commonwealth with Ukraine instead of Paul Manofort
and EVERYBODY would've been 100 times better off, cuz he sold ya'll out and THEN LOOK at what happened after that!!!
pridorki to the right of me
and pridorki to the left
somehow, I must continue on...
but Jeez Louise, things have gotten way, way beyond mere bardak
compared to back in the Yeltsin/Berozovsky period




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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3271 on: August 27, 2023, 08:56:43 AM »
The AFU are preparing a powerful strike on the second line of the orcs defence in Zaporizhzhia.


Ukrainian military "are at the distance of the next strike on a series of prepared Russian defensive positions " in the Zaporizhzhia region,according to analysts from the Institute of study of war.


Also,in the Operational Command South ,it was noted that the orcs started having serious logistical problems as three of their ammo depots were blown up in one day.
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3272 on: August 27, 2023, 11:45:34 AM »
when you dumb asses bomb sevastopol
and get 20,000 or 30,000 ukrainian civilians killed as a Russian retort
then what?
do something to kill even more?

like I said, consider it a strategic chess move,
putinah is gonna corner you in this pocket
and the west is COMPLETELY unprepared

this is the path it's gonna go down

why doncha all see, that Putin is NOT going to retaliate DIRECTLY against the West's counter-attack after his initial Neutron bomb deployment against Zelensky and Ukraine's HQ

of course not...
Putin's gonna pick a city like Lvov or Ternopil, whichever has the highest logistic value and do it indirectly
and hit it with a netron bomb as well
and then use multiple to clear pathways through ukraine's defenses and logistics center
destoying both within 24 hours
like the blitzkrieg in France 1940 after that
and an even bigger slaughter of civilians
by the time the killin is over in Ukraine
it'll be as bad as the great patriotic war
so this means, it hasn't really gotten started yet
cuz ain't no WMDs
YET...


ya'll should read about neutron bombs, google is your friend
and the images this creates wil all get magnified to a very high level by the media
horrifing it's western audience, but NOT it's Russian one!!
feel the difference?
eta russkaya stal

the USA has a small stockpile of W82 warheads
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W82

russians have 10 times more of these
2 kt neutron bomb enhanced radiation weapons



this is putin raising the ante of the bet, he'll put a ukrainian city in the pot and nato puts in a crimean russian airstrip
the ratings will decide what happens in the next episode
I predict the Russian show will get way, way, more viewers than the western one


besides the technical advantage for neutron bombs
there is also a PR one!
you can sell a neutron bomb as a kinder, gentler weapon
cuz afterwards, there is very little damage to see
the only clue, would be the smell after a few days
cuz even the buzzards and rats will be dead

when these images hit the global media space
will everyone put on their mask LOL?
Putin will have ya by the balls
and he is gonna squeeze as hard as he freakin can


Russians own 90% of the neutron bombs that exist on earth today
and then why doncha do a cost/benefit analysis, horrosho?
gozpedy, I gotta tell you people EVERYTHING!!!

you guys have any clue about how many Atomika people there are in Russia?
and that without Russians China and Iran would never of had a nuclear program
ya'll better stop keepin your heads in the sand

cuz the only way, you're gonna know when the tsunami is coming
is when it hits your naked ass, which you can then kiss goodby a second before it happens





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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3273 on: August 27, 2023, 02:30:39 PM »
And with that a pleasant reminder that we British are currently the second biggest contributor to the Ukraine war:

http://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-second-largest-partner-in-ukraines-fight-against-russia/

Good-o, well with that out the way which should keep us in good stead with Ukrainian women I have just thought of a pressing point circa Krim's point above.

If Putler uses neutron bombs or mini nukes what's the chances that western countries will ban their civilians from visiting Russia? i.e how it used to be back in Soviet Union times.

So if Putler is going to hover up Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia & the Stans by this method then that leaves nowhere for us to hunt for pooty tang that is Russian speaking!!!

Possibly only Belarus which is a not as easy flight and cost as it used to be but there's a fair chance that will be banned as well.

So if so that doesn't leave a lot of time for me & others to get sorted with a FSW.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #3274 on: August 27, 2023, 03:41:26 PM »
Trench, wake up man!

I am reminded of the book "Slaughterhouse 5" by Kurt Vonnegut
the part where he saw the Ost female worker prisoners all naked and taking showers, hundreds of gorgeous women, naked in one spot, the water flowing over their soap covered skin
unfortunately...

this was Dresden on Feb 26, 1945
and every single one of em was burned to death later that evening, their once beautiful bodies turned into charred husks curled up into the fetal position

courtesey of the Lancasters of the  the Royal Air Force

let he who is without sin, yada yada....

everyone, everyone, everyone
is some species of sinner
everyone
you, Trench are more on the sloth side
can you guess what my sins are?

awwww c'mon...


 

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