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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1575 on: February 12, 2010, 02:24:32 PM »
Wayne is just being normal. I read where something like 90% of facebook members admitted to trying to track down old girlfriends, lovers etc. Why cant Wayne try to figure out whats going on in the life of the girl that screwed him to the wall, broke his heart, stole his money and helped make his life miserable? It's not like he's hiding in the bushes. Wayne, tell everyone here your not hiding in the bushes. The guy is just curious. Which American guy here has never did a google search or facebook search on an old girlfriend much less one that used him for a green card? Hang in there Wayne. Keep that chin up big man. Lets see some pictures. It might save some other guy a lot of heartache.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1576 on: February 12, 2010, 04:14:11 PM »
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stole his money
did she really?

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1577 on: February 12, 2010, 04:16:09 PM »

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1578 on: February 12, 2010, 04:32:45 PM »
did she really?

Wayne's story makes me feel good about mine. Unlike Wayne I at least got some sex out of my wife after I married her.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1579 on: February 12, 2010, 04:34:21 PM »
Why cant Wayne try to figure out whats going on in the life of the girl that screwed him to the wall, broke his heart, stole his money and helped make his life miserable?

He can, Greg - but he really shouldn't. Why not? If for no other reason, it's completely counterproductive to
his own sorely needed recovery. I'm not suggesting he lapse deeply into denial - no, he should never forget
the experience, and probably never will. But to dig deeply via internet or other means into the progression of
this woman's new life-chapter only serves to impede his own personal progress.

Warning other men of (or saving them from) her evil intentions/deception is a ruse. Let's face it: the motivator here
is sweet revenge. And from the sound of things, it's pointless, except to put his own life on hold.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1580 on: February 12, 2010, 05:26:36 PM »
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Quote from: Maxx2 on Today at 05:32:45 PM
Wayne's story makes me feel good about mine. Unlike Wayne I at least got some sex out of my wife after I married her.

pardon me, Max, but didn't you mention before that you were accused of spousal rape? Please forgive me if I confuse your story with someone else's.
after seeing your photo - with the frame of your size I'm sure you have no problem "convincing" people, especially women.   
On a side note - we do not really know how often Wayne wants or can perform sexual activity. Maybe this is why he did not mind when his young wife gradually moved to another bedroom. Maybe he was relieved. 
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Wayne - are you stalking your ex-wife? Are you trying to make her get protection order against you? To me your behavior looks as revengeful and hostile, while your ex-wife was decent and didn't played tricks about you.
It appears nowhere in your posts that you loved your wife. Yes, you bought things for house - hairdryer and car, but I am not sure you did it "for her" - because as Doll has pointed out - you viewed it as a loan, and not a gift. If you love someone - you do not run accounting books for every tiny thing you did for "beloved one" and for "their payback". You do sound like you were irritated with anything your wife did, with her habits, tastes, preferences for leisure activities, and so on. If you were expressing your irritation to her - I wonder why she didn't dump you earlier. She must have really loved you, and tried to make this marriage work. You are too self-centered and rigid. Save a white-trash American young girl - this way at least you won't have to overcome language barrier and cultural differences.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1581 on: February 12, 2010, 05:49:44 PM »
pardon me, Max, but didn't you mention before that you were accused of spousal rape? Please forgive me if I confuse your story with someone else's.

Evidently you did confuse it.  Maxx was falsely accused of domestic abuse, not rape.  This enabled his ex-wife to secure a green card. 

Wayne, you need to get back into the saddle.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1582 on: February 12, 2010, 07:29:26 PM »
Seems like he is not physically stalking- I think she sent the pictures through email.
Just a guess.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1583 on: February 12, 2010, 07:30:28 PM »
I don't remember Maxx was accused. Were you, Maxx?

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1584 on: February 12, 2010, 10:48:50 PM »
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On a side note - we do not really know how often Wayne wants or can perform sexual activity. Maybe this is why he did not mind when his young wife gradually moved to another bedroom. Maybe he was relieved.  
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Wayne - are you stalking your ex-wife? Are you trying to make her get protection order against you? To me your behavior looks as revengeful and hostile, while your ex-wife was decent and didn't played tricks about you.
It appears nowhere in your posts that you loved your wife. Yes, you bought things for house - hairdryer and car, but I am not sure you did it "for her" - because as Doll has pointed out - you viewed it as a loan, and not a gift. If you love someone - you do not run accounting books for every tiny thing you did for "beloved one" and for "their payback". You do sound like you were irritated with anything your wife did, with her habits, tastes, preferences for leisure activities, and so on. If you were expressing your irritation to her - I wonder why she didn't dump you earlier. She must have really loved you, and tried to make this marriage work. You are too self-centered and rigid. Save a white-trash American young girl - this way at least you won't have to overcome language barrier and cultural differences.

I don't believe in one sided stories, but I'll assume Wayne's story is to accurate, since he is the one posting here.  So, if his story is to be believed, his wife didn't have sex with him after she came to the US.  Is this the action of a woman in love?  She waited until she was sure she could stay in the US before she dumped him.  She never loved him.  So this is why he counts what he did for her; He is kicking himself for his own stupidity.  He never claimed he was saving her but rather, that he chose poorly.  

Perhaps he was foolish in choosing her, but I don't think he is stalking her.  Of course there is a curiosity when someone has "done you wrong".

Wayne, I agree with those who say it is time to move on.  She has.  You are still carrying her, and you are creating the monsters that gnaw at your soul.  It is time to let go so that you can live your own life.  She is continuing to steal from you, because you allow her to.  I suggest some counseling so that you can move past this.  Put her behind you and live your life.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2010, 11:00:21 PM by Boethius »
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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1585 on: February 13, 2010, 01:24:45 AM »
Evidently you did confuse it.  Maxx was falsely accused of domestic abuse, not rape.  This enabled his ex-wife to secure a green card.  

Wayne, you need to get back into the saddle.

I am not talking about court decision, I am talking about what his ex-wife accused him of. And he specifically talked of spousal rape. Then he elaborated that he really did not force his ex-wife to have sex with him, but was trying to convince her - talking in a very gentle voice that he needs to have sex.
Again, Max, I may be confusing you with somebody, and maybe some other forum member said it. If so - please accept my apologies.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2010, 09:55:35 AM by mies »

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1586 on: February 13, 2010, 06:05:43 AM »
pardon me, Max, but didn't you mention before that you were accused of spousal rape? Please forgive me if I confuse your story with someone else's.
after seeing your photo - with the frame of your size I'm sure you have no problem "convincing" people, especially women.   
On a side note - we do not really know how often Wayne wants or can perform sexual activity. Maybe this is why he did not mind when his young wife gradually moved to another bedroom. Maybe he was relieved. 
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Wayne - are you stalking your ex-wife? Are you trying to make her get protection order against you? To me your behavior looks as revengeful and hostile, while your ex-wife was decent and didn't played tricks about you.
It appears nowhere in your posts that you loved your wife. Yes, you bought things for house - hairdryer and car, but I am not sure you did it "for her" - because as Doll has pointed out - you viewed it as a loan, and not a gift. If you love someone - you do not run accounting books for every tiny thing you did for "beloved one" and for "their payback". You do sound like you were irritated with anything your wife did, with her habits, tastes, preferences for leisure activities, and so on. If you were expressing your irritation to her - I wonder why she didn't dump you earlier. She must have really loved you, and tried to make this marriage work. You are too self-centered and rigid. Save a white-trash American young girl - this way at least you won't have to overcome language barrier and cultural differences.


Mies, you are an idiot.
 Inappropriate name-calling.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1587 on: February 13, 2010, 06:41:22 AM »
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Mies, you are an idiot.
Hi, Greg! How are you doing?  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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« Reply #1588 on: February 13, 2010, 06:47:15 AM »
Hi, Greg! How are you doing?  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Fine darling, I enjoyed the chat last evening. The sun is shining here and snow is covering the ground for a few more hours and then it'll be gone. I honestly think I'm getting dumber after reading some of the posts on this board.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1589 on: February 13, 2010, 08:08:27 AM »
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I honestly think I'm getting dumber after reading some of the posts on this board.
I ma so sorry!  ;D

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1590 on: February 13, 2010, 09:54:35 AM »
Mies, you are an idiot.

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do you call an idiot every person whose viewpoint is different from yours?

There are many unclear details in Wayne's story - the details which he unintentionally or intentionally omitted in his posts.

- Was his wife gradually moving to another bedroom not to distract his sleep, or did he ask her to go with computer to another room because she was distracting his sleep?

- Was she regularly refusing to have sex with him after wedding, or he was not interested in sex? (Given that he goes to bed early - when she is awake, and wakes up early - when she is asleep)

- Did they split the debts, and if they did - what was the amount of that debt?

- How much did he spent on sauna/jacuzzi (or something of that kind - that Wayne mentioned)? I assume it "stayed" with Wayne and he is using it now. It was also his choice how much to spent on it.

- How much did Wayne spent on ex's sight correction and dental work?

- While Wayne purchased some hair-dresser's equipment for his ex- - he can still sell it, and recover at least partially the cost. Or did the wife took it with her?

Wayne, I am sympathetic about your story. But you need to understand - that both you and your ex had contributed to the breakup. And it's not only about money. You keep remembering every little feature of your wife's character and portray it as huge character flow. You pull together completely innocent facts - and that's a stretch.
Just look at the story of car accident. You have written the long post telling how bad and unskillful driver your ex- was, and keep giving advices to other AMs, and then - when you discover that it was not a Russian woman, but your American ex who had a car accident - you do not even bother to admit your mistake - about all accusations of Russian women who don't know how to drive, and say you were wrong about that. The relationship is give and take, and it's not like you only give money, and take everything else. If you want to take understanding, love, agreeableness - you should offer it too, not only in the form of money.

Why she didn't invite her friends and relatives for the wedding - well, maybe to spare you of the cost of their trip - because they could not afford the trip themselves. How about that?

I do not understand why you want so much to hurt your wife - by throwing her out of the country. She didn't try to rip you off, didn't file DVC, she was civil during the divorce.  While you keep collecting information on her, make up stories, and continue "the war on ex-". If you talked to your ex- like Doll advised to you 64 pages ago and tried to divorce peacefully - you would reach the same result - without spending much on divorce attorney. While you may be advised by your attorney, or private detective, or whoever else is advising you to continue the war with your ex - they are collecting their fees and making their living on your impulsive revengeful behavior. The men who are advising you on this board to fight - are getting free show and make you defend "all male's dignity". IMHO - dignity is a different thing. What you are getting out of this war yourself? It would be much better if you admit that there were good sides, not only bad - in this relationship and marriage. Because I'm sure there were - otherwise you would not have married her. It would make you much happier, would cost you much less, and you will be able to move on.

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1591 on: February 13, 2010, 10:03:07 AM »
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Get your facts straight. You come here and misrepresent Maxx of spousal rape and you question Wayne as to his sexual ability. Why would you even say that? Do you know something we don't or are you just throwing a big opinion out there?

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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1592 on: February 13, 2010, 10:23:25 AM »
I don't think he is stalking her.  


It really doesn't matter what any of us think. In America if a guy crosses State lines to follow an ex-woman and take photos of her residence among other things, a judge will have no problem giving him the title of "Stalker". Wayne really needs to think about what he is doing and the trouble he can get into. Wayne may not be dangerous and still only in love but no judge is going to risk his/her job ignoring a woman who labeled a man a stalker and showing evidence. It's bad for their career if later the woman is found dead.
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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1593 on: February 13, 2010, 10:29:07 AM »
Thank you Billy, this is exactly what i meant.
Wayne may get himself into trouble without bad intentions - only for naively following others' bad advices or because he is still in love. I meant good when i mentioned stalking behavior - not to accuse Wayne, but to help him avoid trouble.  

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« Reply #1594 on: February 13, 2010, 10:30:31 AM »
Why does everyone think Wayne went to her apartment and took these photos? I dont think the guy broke into her place and took these pictures.

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« Reply #1595 on: February 13, 2010, 10:35:53 AM »
Get your facts straight. You come here and misrepresent Maxx of spousal rape and you question Wayne as to his sexual ability. Why would you even say that? Do you know something we don't or are you just throwing a big opinion out there?

I do not misrepresent. I simply asked Max - in a polite and respectful way - if this was him who told this story. Because I remember him saying it, yet I admitted that I may be mistaking Max with another forum member. This conversation was awhile ago, so I do not know in which topic to look for it. This is why I am asking Max.

Why do you think you can call me an idiot just because I read that topic, and you did not read it?

As for Wayne's sexual activity - usually there are two people in a couple who have sex together. And if they don't have sex - there are 9 possiblities: wife does not want it, cannot have it, doesnt' want and cannot, husband does not want it, cannot, or doesn't want and cannot, and both: can't, don't, can't and don't. For some reason - you are sure that the reason was that wife didn't want it - which is only 1/9th of all possible explanations. Wayne did not explicitly mention what was his role in sexual abstinence, but everybody beliefs this is ex-'s fault. I need to check all possibilities before I decide what opinion to form about the case. Nothing personal. No insinuations or attacks - just an innocent question. I do not take sides with his ex, or with Wayne.  


To illustrate what i mean - a short fictional story, all resemblance with real characters is accidental:  

33yo Katya from Minsk is divorcing 43-53-63yo Michael, her American husband, after 7 months in marriage. Katya's speech: "I entered the marriage in good faith. Prior to marriage we knew each other for 3 years, Michael was very kind, gentle, and supportive man. I liked that he is older than me - because I was lacking male figure in my life. I grew in family without father, my first husband was 18 when we married, and he left me a year later. After that I was raising my daughter and was not able to take care of my personal life. During Michael's visits we looked very compatible. Even though I did not speak good English - we never had problems understanding each other, and sex was also great. When we moved to USA - the first month was great too - I was so happy and excited to have a wonderful husband, and to live in a big house. But right after our wedding relationship started getting worse rapidly. We did not have sex at all after wedding night - even though I wanted it, and started wearing sexy cloths, and bought new sexy lingerie. Husband was falling asleep early every evening, and waking up early - to go to work. When he was home from work - he was usually hungry and tired, and after dinner - only wanted to watch TV. I tried to make our marriage work, but my husband was irritated with everything I did. He didn't like my choice of clothes, he didn't like it when I tried to decorate our house and make it prettier, and he was always grumpy. I was trying hard for 7 months, but after he woke me up at night yelling that he stepped into cat's poop and told me I should lock out a cat for night - this was it. My cat lived with me for 12 years, it made my life brighter and is a favorite pet of my daughter - they grew up together. Cat never lived outside and leaving him outside for night - equals to killing him - because we live in the woods and there are wild animals around. I do not understand why my husband has changed so much. He was so loving and caring during his visits, and now he is always grumpy, insensitive, and does not want to have sex with me."

  
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Re: Wife split!
« Reply #1596 on: February 13, 2010, 10:42:33 AM »
Why does everyone think Wayne went to her apartment and took these photos?


After I mentioned it, Wayne made two posts since then and have yet to denied crossing State lines to take those photos. If indeed he went to NY, I don't think he wanted to just take photos of a building and it's not out of the question that he might have followed her to monitor/photograph her daily activities. Although maybe not dangerous, and maybe just the innocent actions of a fool still in love, his behavior needs to stop or he'll get himself a criminal record.
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« Reply #1597 on: February 13, 2010, 10:48:34 AM »
When I questioned how he got the pictures, my first thought was that he had gone there and visited. After reflection however it occurred to me that he mentioned listing prices in the building and may have found photos on a RE site which showed the views out the window and the setting of the building.

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« Reply #1598 on: February 13, 2010, 10:52:44 AM »
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Why does everyone think Wayne went to her apartment and took these photos?


He didn't. He Googled her address and got those photos and information from a real estate site. How else would he know the number of units? Do you think he went to New York and counted them? ::)

It took me 1 minute to Google and find those same photos. Google is your friend.

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« Reply #1599 on: February 13, 2010, 11:07:22 AM »
. He Googled her address and got those photos and information from a real estate site.

It took me 1 minute to Google and find those same photos. Google is your friend.


Help Wayne out and post the real estate site with the same photos. I find in hard to believe a real estate company will use poor quality photos. The photos Wayne submitted look like they were taken from a mobile phone camera.
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