Crimea Travel Issues

[cc3]

Cautionary note from another forum:

http://www.expatua.com/forum/index.php?topic=16573.0;topicseen

[LAman]

Cautionary note from another forum:

http://www.expatua.com/forum/index.php?topic=16573.0;topicseen

Do you actually believe that troll cc3???? Like there is some special stamp that shows you were in Crimea???

[msmobyone]

Do you actually believe that troll cc3???? Like there is some special stamp that shows you were in Crimea???

We have Ukrainian friends that live in Sochi - they are from Kherson - they can now travel via Crimea to Kherson.... by bus/ ferry

If you are a westerner... One's first entry point - if flying to Crimea via air - due to sanctions, there are no direct flights - will be a third Russian airport - so no Simferopol stamp would be in one's passport...

[Marriedman]

I am a Westerner and fly into Crimea all the time and not from Russia.  Not sure about the sanctions unless your referring to Europe airports.

Florida to Turkey to Crimea.  1 stop. 

[msmobyone]

I am a Westerner and fly into Crimea all the time and not from Russia.  Not sure about the sanctions unless your referring to Europe airports.

Florida to Turkey to Crimea.  1 stop.

Well, now - one of us must be 'mistaken'

Please send us a link for any direct fight from Turkey to Crimea....

I searched for a direct flight from SIP- Simferopol, Crimea - using skyscanner - to anywhere

I got RUSSIA - FULL STOP

http://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights-from/sip/160622/cheapest-flights-
from-simferopol-in-june-2016.html?adults=1&children
=0&infants=0&cabinclass=economy&rtn=
0&preferdirects=true&outboundaltsenabled
=false&inboundaltsenabled=false

 

[JayH]

Well, now - one of us must be 'mistaken'

Please send us a link for any direct fight from Turkey to Crimea....

I searched for a direct flight from SIP- Simferopol, Crimea - using skyscanner - to anywhere

I got RUSSIA - FULL STOP

Re: More Bad News for Russia
« Reply #4955 on: Today at 07:39:18 PM »
Quote from: Marriedman on Today at 06:56:07 PM
USA has said they had spent $5 billion usd in Ukraine to make it more Western leaning.  Nuland did admit to the USA being involved.

USA and Russia both have their hands in Ukraine.  Both are dirty.

Ukraine is not really 1 country and once it splits up into regions into smaller countries will be better for everyone.  To much greed in play to let it turn into smaller countries.
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Today at 07:39:18 PM »
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=17720.msg434166;topicseen#msg434166
"I am a Westerner and fly into Crimea all the time and not from Russia.  Not sure about the sanctions unless your referring to Europe airports.

Florida to Turkey to Crimea.  1 stop. "


I can see how in touch you are( not) !!!  LoL!
So-- given the overall inaccuracy of your conclusions-- and the total BS of you flight comment-- show me which commercial flight you  take direct from Istanbul  to Simferopal?  Maybe you take charter flight? Or fly your own aircraft?
Maybe your comment is so out of date it illustrates  your ignorance.

Maybe you have not noticed that Russia is subject to substantial sanctions--over it's invasion of Ukraine

[ML]

Florida to Turkey to Crimea.  1 stop.

Sure, I have done it also . . . before 2014.

Can't do it now.

[msmobyone]

Marrriedman

You used the PRESENT tense  to tell us you FLY direct  - or from Turkey-  into Crimea.

Can we agree that you meant pre-sanctions and put this to bed ?

A good idea to move this nonsense into a separate thread..

[The Natural]

A good idea to move this nonsense into a separate thread..

I am glad your request were followed up 

[Boethius]

It was split about half an hour before moby's request.

[JayH]

Given the op's intent to politicise  the thread-- best to see a few others perspective  on the situation on the Crimea


Muscovite in Crimea: It's terrible. All motels, everything fell apart, everything is closed

On Youtube posted video Simeiza embankment after the start of the holiday season in Russia occupied Crimea. It is noted that in place of the coastal cafe is now spontaneous parking. Many places have not opened because there are no people.

When asked if she such an effect on the annexation of the Crimea expected, the woman replied in the negative. "Probably not ... We thought it would be better, but our expectations were not met.

[JayH]

Residents of Alushta came to the rally to express dissatisfaction with the things happening in the city of lawlessness. Then how can we come to the guard of the occupation authorities, we took the Crimean people over the nostrils and is packed in a paddy wagon. Shocked residents of Alushta seen shouting "Shame RUSSIA!"

[JayH]

More on Crimean problems for tourists-
Currently in Crimea of ​​the planned 349 beaches, only 153 have received the necessary permits and open to the public.

The consequences of the occupation: In Crimea was the third holiday season in jeopardy

"Guests are in the Crimea. Their number decreased significantly - about four times compared to 2013. Changed the composition of tourists. This is actually an absolute monopotik from Russia ", - says Alexander Liev.

According to him, most of the Russians on the peninsula - state employees who were sent on vacation in pensions. Private mini-hotel and catering on the coast empty. Previously, small businesses for the tourist season could earn most of the family budget, after the annexation situation has changed.

"People are very few, although we are ready to welcome holidaymakers. Russians do not want to go, then it cold sea, the service poor, prices are high. Earn becoming increasingly difficult. A few years ago the first rescue began to count in May, now, God forbid, anything to make money in July and August

http://patrioty.org.ua/other/naslidky-okupatsii-u-krymu-tretii-kurortnyi-sezon-opynyvsia-pid-zahrozoiu-zryvu-123348.html

[msmobyone]

More on Crimean problems for tourists-
Currently in Crimea of ​​the planned 349 beaches, only 153 have received the necessary permits and open to the public.

The consequences of the occupation: In Crimea was the third holiday season in jeopardy

"Guests are in the Crimea. Their number decreased significantly - about four times compared to 2013. Changed the composition of tourists. This is actually an absolute monopotik from Russia ", - says Alexander Liev.

According to him, most of the Russians on the peninsula - state employees who were sent on vacation in pensions. Private mini-hotel and catering on the coast empty. Previously, small businesses for the tourist season could earn most of the family budget, after the annexation situation has changed.

"People are very few, although we are ready to welcome holidaymakers. Russians do not want to go, then it cold sea, the service poor, prices are high. Earn becoming increasingly difficult. A few years ago the first rescue began to count in May, now, God forbid, anything to make money in July and August

http://patrioty.org.ua/other/naslidky-okupatsii-u-krymu-tretii-kurortnyi-sezon-opynyvsia-pid-zahrozoiu-zryvu-123348.html

 

JayH

Would you consider 25/26C 'cold'  ?

http://www.seatemperature.org/europe/ukraine/feodosiya.htm

Makes one wonder about the veracity of the rest of the article

[Boethius]

I thought August is traditionally vacation month in Europe.  That's when Crimean beaches typically were busy.  So, it's a little early to call the season defeated.

[southernX]

the waters in yalta and alushta in august where very nice and not cold at all for us last time we where there in 2013

i cannot see ourselves goign back there anytime soon however due to the russian annexation

our friends  there have suffered greatly ,general life as well as their  business has been very difficult since the feb 2014 annexation

SX

[The Natural]

I thought August is traditionally vacation month in Europe.  That's when Crimean beaches typically were busy.  So, it's a little early to call the season defeated.

That is correct according to my wife. They come in July, August and September.
As for cold water here, that is not true at all. The temperature is very comfortable and the air temp is from 33-38 days. Quite busy at the beach yesterday with people and surfers.

[msmobyone]

It is noted 'Marriedman' has gone Trappist re demonstrating flights from Turkey to Crimea...let alone any other country...other than the Rodina....

[JayH]

Thank you for the images, it seems like things in Crimea are not as bad as many people would like others to believe.

Please keep posting images and your experiences while on holiday.

Such a credible opinion-- and a source !
Since you both are intent on making political comment-- a little( a lot more) credibility below-

Neglected stories from Russian-occupied Crimea for this week

After Putin annexed Crimea from Ukraine in March 2014, the human rights and economic situation in the occupied peninsula and Russia itself has been slowly deteriorating. Many of the current events in Russian-occupied Crimea are consequences of this process and efforts of the occupation administration to redirect the negative popular reaction from themselves to some imaginary evil-doers and enemies, such as the Crimean Tatars, the Ukrainian government or the West. Below(in link) is a brief overview of neglected news stories from Crimea for the past week.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/25/94836/

[msmobyone]

Such a credible opinion-- and a source !
Since you both are intent on making political comment-- a little( a lot more) credibility below-

Neglected stories from Russian-occupied Crimea for this week

JayH

I fail to see the relevance of your news to the subject of the thread...

Can you contain yourself to 'bad news for Russia'?

PLEASE

[JayH]

JayH

I fail to see the relevance of your news to the subject of the thread...

Can you contain yourself to 'bad news for Russia'?

PLEASE

Your lack of capacity to join the dots is well documented.

Take the eye patches off and see Russia for what it is today.

[msmobyone]

Your lack of capacity to join the dots is well documented.

Take the eye patches off and see Russia for what it is today.

JayH

There is much on which we agree..but it is NOT relevant to this thread

[Anotherkiwi]

JayH

There is much on which we agree..but it is NOT relevant to this thread

Moby, the article refers to various items of news in Crimea, all of which are bad.  Who is to say that some of these may not, at some stage, affect travellers to Crimea?  In that case, it IS relevant.

[msmobyone]

Moby, the article refers to various items of news in Crimea, all of which are bad.  Who is to say that some of these may not, at some stage, affect travellers to Crimea?  In that case, it IS relevant.

The point of this thread was to out marriedman's 'assertion'  about his ability to fly from the US to Crimea via 'Turkey' - reminding  readers that Crimea hasn't any international direct flights - that one must arrive via in internal, Russian leg.

It was started to avoid polluting The Naturals thread on his trip report of his stay in Crimea....

JayH's 'contribution' had NO relevance - so please don't 'encourage' him 


In my opinion - even if I agree with the nature of some of his links - they do more to irritate - as so many of the articles are inaccurate and ill-researched - hardly helping

[JayH]

Typical that the Russian resurface the road from Kerch -they need it to transport military hardware from the Kerch  ferry-from Russia>
Spend money on that while Crimean infrastructure falls apart.Pipes failing ,people only able to drink imported bottled water etc.
btw--the road  from Feodosiya to Simferopal  was always in good condition-as were many Crimean roads.Ironically-- for the same reason that the re-surfacing above is being done-it was the military base of the USSR and the Crimean roads were the best in Ukraine,with even lightly used obscure roads in good surface condition.
The other factor is that the  Crimean climate is no where near as harsh in the winter-which gives the roads a better chance of survival.
Of course now- the very high weights of that very military traffic will be hard on the roads.

n Alupka  sewage stream flowing into the sea.

Draining sewage into the Black Sea in Alupka June 24 2016.



http://tsn.ua/ukrayina/more-v-alupci-zalivayut-nechistoti-z-kanalizaciyi-zmi-681216.html



Yep-everything is rosy on the Crimea(not) !!