Afghanistan

[tfcrew]

Trump is ONE example.  There was no serious impeachment threats for either of the Bushes or Reagan.   I think it is conservative paranoia, which is a cornerstone of how conservative votes are garnered.   

Go do your research next time

Efforts to impeach George W. Bush....  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush
H.Res.86 - Impeaching George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors...
http://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/house-resolution/86

A resolution to impeach Reagen was obvious political suicide.

[fathertime]

Go do your research next time

Efforts to impeach George W. Bush....  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush
H.Res.86 - Impeaching George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors...
http://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/house-resolution/86

A resolution to impeach Reagen was obvious political suicide.

As I stated nothing serious.  Similar to those trying to call for Biden's impeachment now.

Fathertime!

[GQBlues]

To help commemorate the 20th anniversary of 9/11, Netflix just release TURNING POINT, a 6-episode documentary of events leading to, the fateful day and the aftermath of this dreadful day.

From the presidencies of Reagan to Biden. An in depth look at the post-Soviet occupation, jihadists, war on terror, OBL, patriot act, habeas corpus, Guantanamo, Afghanistan, Talibans, the ills of the Doha peace deal, all the way to the withdrawal just concluded. It also gave a perspective why some Afghan soldier turned ‘blue on green’ against us.

Roughly 6 hours long 😱

[ML]

Just heard on Chris Wallace this morning from a US Senator, that Taliban is holding several planes (maybe 6) hostage and won't allow take off.

These planes contain some US citizens and a lot of Afgans.

Apparently the Talibans demanding USA recognize them fully as the lawful government.

http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/570896-mccaul-says-taliban-wont-let-Americans-leave-from-Afghanistan-airport

[tfcrew]

As I stated nothing serious.  Similar to those trying to call for Biden's impeachment now.

the call for Biden's impeachment

Oh do the back peddle now. I knew you would....because you always type first.
Everyone knows whoever has said the I word about Biden will be shunned by twitter, facebook, the press and everything else.
Joey could drop his pants and moon the camera and the Dumbocrats would say that was the most incredible demonstration of strength and courage they have ever seen. 

[fathertime]

Oh do the back peddle now. I knew you would....because you always type first.
Everyone knows whoever has said the I word about Biden will be shunned by twitter, facebook, the press and everything else.
Joey could drop his pants and moon the camera and the Dumbocrats would say that was the most incredible demonstration of strength and courage they have ever seen.

Pretend there was backpeddling on going on...if that makes you happy.   I'll stand by my statements.  Conservatives are in the minority and will try all dirty tricks  legal/illegal  to maintain any position they can.
Many will call for biden's impeachment, but it won't be taken seriously because he doesn't warrant it.    All your whinning about facebook, twitter, press is just because they are not reporting the distorted way you are trying unsuccessfully to demand.   

Fathertime! 

[tfcrew]

Edit by Anonmod

Meanwhile back to the topic-------

A pregnant woman named Nasria, a California native, flew to Afghanistan in June to visit family and get married. As of early September, she remained one of the estimated 100 to 200 Americans left behind in the chaotic withdrawal of U.S. forces, according to a report.
Now that the U.S. military is gone, the Taliban is "hunting Americans," she told the Voice of America.
"I think to myself, ‘Am I going to make it home? Am I going to end up living here? Am I going to end up dying here? What’s going to happen?'" Nasria, 25, who asked to be referred to only by her first name for safety reasons, said.
"Apparently they’re [the Taliban] going door-to-door … trying to see if anybody has a blue passport," she said.

She said the U.S. State Department told her "You will get picked up" after the flight she booked to return to the U.S. was canceled.
She said she and her husband tried to get to the specified location for 12 to 13 hours but the Taliban blocked them at gunpoint even as she showed them her U.S. passport.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/taliban-hunting-americans-california-afghanistan

[Trenchcoat]

Apparently it's going to cost the UK government £2.5bn to settle the near 20,000 Afghans in the UK. 15,000 were brought over in the airlift, another 2,000 in the few months before plus approx 1,000 since 2003. Possibly a few more on the way by foot. Just think if we had held on until a peace deal was secure even if it meant a renewed conflict for a while it would have probably cost us less. We had the weaponry to kick the Taliban's arse but we allowed ourselves to run in fear of a renewed conflict.

[John Gaunt]

Apparently it's going to cost the UK government £2.5bn to settle the near 20,000 Afghans in the UK. 15,000 were brought over in the airlift, another 2,000 in the few months before plus approx 1,000 since 2003. Possibly a few more on the way by foot. Just think if we had held on until a peace deal was secure even if it meant a renewed conflict for a while it would have probably cost us less. We had the weaponry to kick the Taliban's arse but we allowed ourselves to run in fear of a renewed conflict.

You vastly over estimate the capability and capacity of the UK to conduct military operations on the scale needed to defeat the Taliban.
The Soviet Union failed in their 9 year occupation, the US/UK + NATO failed in the 20 years of occupation fighting against an insurgency that simply wore them out.
Your naivety is telling.

[GQBlues]

Apparently it's going to cost the UK government £2.5bn to settle the near 20,000 Afghans in the UK. 15,000 were brought over in the airlift, another 2,000 in the few months before plus approx 1,000 since 2003. Possibly a few more on the way by foot. Just think if we had held on until a peace deal was secure even if it meant a renewed conflict for a while it would have probably cost us less. We had the weaponry to kick the Taliban's arse but we allowed ourselves to run in fear of a renewed conflict.

You already had this opportunity before, TC. Albeit mid19th century. About 15,000+ British and Indian troops, with accompanying civilians were withdrawing but unfortunately were nearly massacred by native Afghans. IINM, only one survived.

[tfcrew]

You vastly over estimate the capability and capacity of the UK to conduct military operations on the scale needed to defeat the Taliban.

Not only that...but like [the failure] in Vietnam, there has to be a strong internal desire to resolve the differences within. Doubtfully will ever happen in Afghanistan. 

[Trenchcoat]

You vastly over estimate the capability and capacity of the UK to conduct military operations on the scale needed to defeat the Taliban.
The Soviet Union failed in their 9 year occupation, the US/UK + NATO failed in the 20 years of occupation fighting against an insurgency that simply wore them out.
Your naivety is telling.

I reckon £2.5bn would take us a fair way, better spent on kicking their ass than to have them here. Scorched earth tactics would be the best way.

[John Gaunt]

I reckon £2.5bn would take us a fair way, better spent on kicking their ass than to have them here. Scorched earth tactics would be the best way.

One can tell you’re very well informed on military tactics.
What video games do you play?

[Trenchcoat]

One can tell you’re very well informed on military tactics.
What video games do you play?

I'lld beat you at world of tanks anyday

[tfcrew]

Former Guantanamo terrorist inmates now run the Afghan government.....

GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba — Four of the so-called “Taliban Five” have been named to key roles in the Taliban’s new “caretaker” government in Afghanistan following the terrorist group’s takeover of the country after the militant leaders were released from detention at Guantanamo Bay in a prisoner exchange for U.S. Army deserter Bowe Bergdahl.
The Taliban took over Afghanistan in August after an ill-planned and chaotic Biden administration withdrawal.
A Taliban spokesman said the group had appointed Mullah Noorullah Noori to be the acting minister of borders and tribal affairs, Abdul Haq Wasiq to be the acting director of intelligence, Mullah Khairullah Khairkhwa to be the acting minister of information and broadcasting, and Mullah Mohammad Fazil to be the deputy defense minister. The fifth of the five, Mohammad Nabi Omari, was reportedly appointed to be the governor of Khost Province in eastern Afghanistan last month.The five men had been members of the Taliban government prior to its overthrow by U.S. forces in the wake of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Before being sent to Guantanamo Bay, Noori was a Taliban governor and is believed to have been involved in the massacres of thousands of Hazara, Uzbek, and other Shiite minorities.

More....
http://www.yahoo.com/now/taliban-five-guantanamo-bay-afghan-133000675.html

But at least we got [in exchange] a hero deserter back safely. Went into hiding did he?
http://nypost.com/2021/09/07/four-taliban-members-swapped-for-bowe-bergdahl-now-in-afghan-government/

[tfcrew]

 

White House hails 'businesslike' and 'professional' Taliban for aid in flight out of Afghanistan

= Payoff...bribe...ransom

http://www.yahoo.com/now/white-house-hails-businesslike-professional-183100298.html

[2tallbill]

Payoff...bribe...ransom

High crimes 

[GQBlues]

Remembering…

http://www.instagram.com/tv/CTr-04PAg4w/?utm_medium=copy_link

[BillyB]

Our government said they killed two ISIS planners as retaliation but couldn't give us names. This Pentagon spokesperson is lying his ass off.


http://t.me/TheStormHasArrived17/4962

Biden droned a USAID worker and his family which included 7 children. Probably relied on intel from the Taliban since we didn't have boots on the ground outside of the airport.

[2tallbill]

[2tallbill]

Why Russia, US officials are rushing to Delhi, after keeping India
away from Afghan talks As China takes driver’s seat in Afghanistan,
US and Russian officials are reaching out to India.
http://theprint.in/opinion/why-russia-us-officials-are-rushing-to-delhi-on-afghanistan/732430/



Russia planning to send humanitarian aid to Afghanistan -RIA cites foreign ministry
http://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/russia-planning-send-humanitarian-aid-afghanistan-ria-cites-foreign-ministry-2021-09-13/


China, Russia could be reverse-engineering US military equipment left behind in Afghanistan
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/china-russia-could-reverse-engineering-074456314.html

[Maxx2]

Pretty shocking to see top Obama officials, like Leon Planeta, condemning Biden by name for his bumbling of Afghanistan


http://rumble.com/vls8qd-obama-administration-officials-blame-biden-for-the-botched-afghanistan-with.html

[BillyB]

Secretary of State admits to not knowing if we killed kids or ISIS. Sen Rand Paul said we've killed thousands by drones. We should figure out who we're targeting before firing missiles.


http://t.me/disclosetv/4680

[fathertime]

Secretary of State admits to not knowing if we killed kids or ISIS. Sen Rand Paul said we've killed thousands by drones. We should figure out who we're targeting before firing missiles.


http://t.me/disclosetv/4680

Been going on for many years...even better take care of our own business at home.   Most, if not nearly all nations don't feel the need to bother with these types of actions.

Fathertime! 

[2tallbill]

Been going on for many years...even better take care of our own business at home.   Most, if not nearly all nations don't feel the need to bother with these types of actions.

Fathertime!

Why isn't it that you and other lefty's don't get the point.

1. Biden botched the Afghanistan exit. He should have evacuated the civilians
American citizens first. Nobody is stupid enough to disagree with that.

2. Because he was getting political criticism for the fiasco of his own making
so he killed a random family with a drone attack and lied about it saying it
was the terrorist mastermind behind the car bombing. 

3. He promised he wouldn't leave American citizens behind and then left American
citizens behind.

4. He lied about having a plan to get American citizens out and he isn't even
planning to make a plan on getting them out.

Your trite repetitive complaining that we shouldn't have done x, y or z in the first
place is totally irrelevant to the situation. We can only change our future actions,
not our past.

What's next? Will you say we shouldn't have killed all the native Americans? We
should have allowed women to vote earlier? We should have never enacted the
Smoot–Hawley Tariff?

We should always examine the past so that we can avoid repeating it, but let's
focus on the what happened in this past month(s) not what we can't fix during
the Bush administration.