Europe in the News

[Anotherkiwi]

Nah, I'm a gonna spend my holidays in Chicago.  Great place to catch up on all of the niceties of US Society.

So long as you don't visit the South Side...or the North Side...or the West Side... or the East Side... 

You had better ask Chicagoguy if he has a spare bed - he must be in a pretty safe area to have lived as long as he has! 

[tfcrew]

If you import the third world....you become the third world

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/emmanuel-macrons-unlikely-path-to-the-french-presidency/2017/05/07/f8943ed8-bdc3-4ed4-8bbb-97a8781ff393_story.html

[Boethius]

Who says France has imported the third world?  France has always absorbed immigrants - waves of Portuguese, Italians, Poles, and White Russians.

Macron's voters were predominantly well educated, urban, and have higher incomes than those who supported Le Pen. 

I heard a French woman interviewed on CBC, who, at 39, voted for the very first time for Macron.  She said they were attempting to build a third party, different from the parties of the past, and when Macron's deputies are elected, many will be political neophytes.

Really, Macron was elected in the same way Trump was - as an outlier with no political experience.

[tfcrew]

Who says France has imported the third world?   

 I didn't.
However, The United Nations claims...

Sweden to become a Third World Country by 2030, according to UN

In 2010 Sweden had the 15th place in the HDI rankings but according to UN forecasts, Sweden will be #25 in 2015, and in 2030 on the 45th place.

Sweden is one of few countries with such a sharp deterioration from what it had in 2010.

Finland demonstrates one of the world's best school systems, while the Swedish school have lost competitiveness.

Fewer ends up on welfare dependency in their Nordic neighboring countries while Sweden continues to have a greater amount of family households forced to live on welfare, which are a couple factors  causing the dropped global competitiveness.

Read on...
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

I have no clue how Macaroon will do. We'll see.
It just 'seemed' to me that one claim complimented the other.
Would Charles De Gaulle have said that there is no such thing as French culture?
 

[msmob]

tfcrew

You REALLY need to be more careful with your dubious sources of 'data' ...


The loony right 'think tank' ( charitable status) that you quoted from forgot to check the most recent data from 2016 - rather than the 2010 data used by the site you linked to!

Sweden IMPROVED her Ranking - up one place - now 14th in the world 

Here's the link from the UN to the latest info:

http://hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/SWE

Interestingly, I reckon the terrible English from your misinfo site viz,

"In 2010 Sweden had the 15th place in the HDI rankings but according to UN forecasts, Sweden will be #25 in 2015, and in 2030 on the 45th place. "

suggests that this could have been written by a Russian ......

[tfcrew]

suggests that this could have been written by a Russian ......

Actually, it was written by a Swede

Here is progress in your globalist society which you seem to embrace..



Productive huh?
 

[msmob]

It seems there are certain folks on these boards who live under some bizarre notion that Europe is 'lefty' and the pro EU, non anti-immigration parties are getting decimated...

'Merkel' in Germany  - is right of centre - and her party took the biggest state in Germany from the Socialists and seems set to win another - 4th term -  term in September.


http://www.france24.com/en/20170514-merkel-party-wins-key-regional-poll-northern-germany-cdu

[BdHvA]

Sorry to disappoint some but I strongly suspect the images depicted are either outright forgeries or in the case of the 17th century work a copy.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/art-loving-mafia-mobster-s-collection-in-italy-show/article/464991

Now if some one can get the rest of the paintings back stolen from Westfries Museum that would be news.

[2tallbill]

Really, Macron was elected in the same way Trump was - as an outlier with no political experience.

Macron was a member of the Socialist Party from 2006 to 2009, Macron was
appointed deputy secretary-general in François Hollande's first government
in 2012. He was appointed Minister of Economy, Industry and Digital Affairs
in 2014 He resigned in August 2016 to launch a bid in the 2017 presidential
election

Trump had 98% of the press against him while Marcon had 98% that
were for him. Macron is a leftist/socialists while Trump is right of center.

[Boethius]

Macron is a liberal centrist, not a socialist or leftist. He also had never held an elected office until elected president.

[Boethius]

Sorry to disappoint some but I strongly suspect the images depicted are either outright forgeries or in the case of the 17th century work a copy.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/art-loving-mafia-mobster-s-collection-in-italy-show/article/464991

Now if some one can get the rest of the paintings back stolen from Westfries Museum that would be news.

Wouldn't authorities have checked that before putting the works on display?

[BdHvA]

Wouldn't authorities have checked that before putting the works on display?

No must likely not. Bear in mind they were not in a museum. Looking at other images it seems the majority of paintings hanging were typical late 19th century and early 20th century landscapes and such.

There were no stunning masterpieces, that would hang for public view in a museum. Most would end up in the storage depot.

[Boethius]

Interesting.  I read a number of years back that Dali is the most forged artist of the 20th century, particularly for print work.

[SANDRO43]

Sorry to disappoint some but I strongly suspect the images depicted are either outright forgeries or in the case of the 17th century work a copy.

Not quite. I recognise the 1st picture by Aligi Sassu, the 3rd as one of Giorgio de Chirico's many Piazza d'Italia, one of his favourite subjects (see http://www.italianways.com/le-piazze-ditalia-di-giorgio-de-chirico/).

[2tallbill]

Macron is a liberal centrist, not a socialist or leftist. He also had never held an elected office until elected president.

From my post above
Macron was a member of the Socialist Party from 2006 to 2009, Macron was appointed
deputy secretary-general in François Hollande's first government in 2012. He was
appointed Minister of Economy, Industry and Digital Affairs in 2014 by Socialist
Party President Hollande.

He spent the last 8 years employed as a socialist party worker for Hollande and now
you claim he's a centrist of some sort.

[Boethius]

All irrelevant.  He founded En Marche, which is the party platform on which he ran, and that party is liberal centrist. Benoit Hamon ran as the Socialist's candidate.

[Brasscasing]

From my post above
Macron was a member of the Socialist Party from 2006 to 2009, Macron was appointed
deputy secretary-general in François Hollande's first government in 2012. He was
appointed Minister of Economy, Industry and Digital Affairs in 2014 by Socialist
Party President Hollande.

He spent the last 8 years employed as a socialist party worker for Hollande and now
you claim he's a centrist of some sort.

"Centrist" is the new Socialist, Bill. It's easier to sell and swallow in Europe.

On the political spectrum in France a Conservative would sit at about a Rockefeller Republican and a Centrist would sit at about a Progressive Democrat (an example being Pelosi).

Macron has stated several times he wants to be France's Obama and Obama endorsed him prior to the vote. He also apparently tapped into some of Obama's old campaign consultants to oversee his campaign.

As in the US/Canada you'll be hard pressed to find much critical on the guy in the media. The French liberal media/MSM has pretty well eradicated or suppressed any critical media reporting about him.

Macron is for the most part a French Obama clone.

Brass

[GQBlues]

...Macron has stated several times he wants to be France's Obama and Obama endorsed him prior to the vote. He also apparently tapped into some of Obama's old campaign consultants to oversee his campaign.

LMAO!
 
Hell, in my neck of the world, they created a new word, or term, for that. They call it *collusion*, if not *election interference*.
 
They even spend undue taxpayers monies chasing their tail in their supposed *investigations*.

[Brasscasing]

LMAO!
 
Hell, in my neck of the world, they created a new word, or term, for that. They call it *collusion*, if not *election interference*.
 
They even spend undue taxpayers monies chasing their tail in their supposed *investigations*.

In France they celebrate it. 

Watch for this guy (once/if he solidifies his government) to swing hard left.

Brass

[BdHvA]

Not quite. I recognise the 1st picture by Aligi Sassu, the 3rd as one of Giorgio de Chirico's many Piazza d'Italia, one of his favourite subjects (see http://www.italianways.com/le-piazze-ditalia-di-giorgio-de-chirico/).

I thought the de Chirico was indeed possible. My opinion on Aligi Sassu, is he a bad imitator of Marino Marini and the German die Brücke and der Blaue Reiter artists.

[BdHvA]

I thought the de Chirico was indeed possible. My opinion on Aligi Sassu, is he a bad imitator of Marino Marini and the German die Brücke and der Blaue Reiter artists.

And yes the graphic art of Dali is highly forged.

[msmob]

"Centrist" is the new Socialist, Bill. It's easier to sell and swallow in Europe.

Ah, so I suppose the appointment of a right of centre PM - isn't awkward' for your 'theory'.....?

My politics  is right of Centre - and Pro EU. There is no party in the UK, currently - that broadly covers the Macron spectrum.   His new PM - Ediuard Philippe - is a member of the Republican Party ( clue: right of centre)

On the political spectrum in France a Conservative would sit at about a Rockefeller Republican and a Centrist would sit at about a Progressive Democrat (an example being Pelosi).

The differences between having a left wing and right wing govt in France have been traditionally FAR more than the US. 

Macron has stated several times he wants to be France's Obama

  You may even be correct - but could you show us where, please? I have heard this SAID by the loony "the local and beibarts" - who turn editorial opinion into 'news'  ..could that be from where you 'learnt' it ? ....  I searched ( in English and French) under 'Macron wants to be like / emulate Obama ...

and Obama endorsed him prior to the vote. He also apparently tapped into some of Obama's old campaign consultants to oversee his campaign.

1/ Not the same thing as Macron wishing to emulate Obama
2/ The UK Tory party used some of Obama's campaign staff - and surprisingly - won the 2015 election ? Did that make the Tories 'lefties'  ?

As in the US/Canada you'll be hard pressed to find much critical on the guy in the media. The French liberal media/MSM has pretty well eradicated or suppressed any critical media reporting about him.

Now you really ARE proving your 'credentials' to be an expert on French Newspapers... 

I LIVED in France -  once spoke it VERY well and consulted a Brit friend of mine- who has lived in France 10 years .. I suggest you read Le Figaro (http://www.lefigaro.fr/)  - clearly right of centre ..Today's headline ? ..The Republican Party is in turmoil as many of it's serving members - seem VERY happy to be part of Macron's team :

http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2017/05/16/01002-20170516ARTFIG00352-l-onde-de-choc-macron-fait-vaciller-la-droite-avant-les-legislatives.php

Macron is for the most part a French Obama clone.

An opinion can't be 'wrong' of course - but certainly - judging by some of the 'facts' you base such a stance on ....

[Brasscasing]

  Emmanuel Macron
✔  ‎@EmmanuelMacron 

Let’s keep defending our progressive values. Thank you for this discussion @BarackObama.

11:43 AM - 20 Apr 2017

twitter.com

..."Obama’s spokesperson said this was not a formal endorsement, but the former U.S. president doesn’t appear to have called any other French presidential candidate. “President Obama appreciated the opportunity to hear from Mr. Macron about his campaign and the important upcoming presidential election in France, a country that President Obama remains deeply committed to as a close ally of the United States, and as a leader on behalf of liberal values in Europe  and around the world,” said Obama’s spokesman, Kevin Lewis."...

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/obama-sort-of-wades-into-the-french-presidential-race.html

No ambiguity there for those that understand politics. Our resident uninformed troll msmob will take issue with it, of course. 

Brass

[msmob]

  Emmanuel Macron
✔  ‎@EmmanuelMacron 

Let’s keep defending our progressive values. Thank you for this discussion @BarackObama.


No ambiguity there for those that understand politics. Our resident uninformed troll msmob will take issue with it, of course. 

Ah, so THAT was 'it' ? Your 'proof' that "Macron  wanted to be France's Obama" ?  ...



I note you ducked admitting your expertise' as to French newspapers .... and Marcon's choice of a right of REPUBLICAN - that's Conservative - with a big C - as a clue -  Prime Minister..

[Brasscasing]

Ah, so THAT was 'it' ? Your 'proof' that "Macron  wanted to be France's Obama" ?  ...



I note you ducked admitting your expertise' as to French newspapers .... and Marcon's choice of a right of REPUBLICAN - that's Conservative - with a big C - as a clue -  Prime Minister..

No you stupid little man this refutes your totally inept argument above that Macron is somehow not a left of center politician.

 If you insist on continually barking to get my attention, quoting my posts and making gauche statements (still looking for your bi annual cyber slap down no doubt) try to keep track of your own bumbling, intoxicated trolling.

If/when I decide or have the time to locate his Obama fluff tweet, I'll do so. In the meantime the membership can laugh at your wine swilled 'Macron is not a Socialist'  blunder.

Brass