Type of Work I can do that will satisfy a FSW enough.

[Trenchcoat]

a quiet loner, and also from a "niche" is your huckleberry
my favorite FSU niche, was tall women, 6 footers (I'm particularly fond of the "Gal Godot" type)
these women find it real hard to date in Russia/Ukraine
when you make "your play" you spoil her, without making any demands in return
that's how I "rolled" over there
I nurtured the delicate flower of Ukrainian womanhood
watched it bloom, and now rest under the shade it provides
and never worried over her leaving me or lookin at another

You mean the woman? It likely means she has no social skills so would be unsurprising that she would find it hard to date. However, that lack of social skills can be passed onto any children you have if you end up having children with such a woman. An easy play and easy lay for sure but I tend to feel bad about just getting with women for sex if they are after a relationship. For me its not something I would want to risk passing onto children, I've got it somewhat so know it's not nice but I've seen others even potentially worse, guys & girls almost mute like so it's not something I would wish to see inflicted upon anyone.

[Chelseaboy]

you Anglo-Saxons are conditioned to be "polite"
but ya should use that politeness as a thin veneer
that hides a darker more sinister side
think of Mr. Shelby of "Peeky Blinders"
ya see, that's me mate...

I learned Ju-Jitsu, just so I could phuque people up without landing a blow
this taught me various "hand-holds" that end with the person screamin in pain and fallin to their knees in agony
but leaves no mark, and as long as there are no witnesses, no police will be involved
but the message is quite clear
no one ever, ever, ever, phuques with me a second time
this is wahtcha shoulda done to your wife's admirers
and had a little discussion with her as well

You can't go around assaulting neighbours because they talked with your wife.


For one thing they know where you live,and you might end up with a molotov cocktail thrown through your letterbox while your asleep.


Or if they don't want to set fire to my missus them or their pals can wait for you to come home in the dark and stove your head in with a baseball bat or a hammer, or stick a knife in you from behind.


Actions have consequences.


You can't follow her around at work all day to see who's hitting on her either..it's called stalking ..which her employer may well call the police onto you for.


A woman either wants to be with you or she doesn't..we had thirteen years together.Trying to ban her from talking with others will just drive her away anyway.


Maybe i should have stopped her doing her work and chained her to the bedpost when i wasn't around...left her a potty for when she needed to go to the toilet and left her a couple of sandwiches and a plastic bottled water to keep her alive until i got home.


Or i guess i could have taken her to an uninhabited desert island......

[krimster2]

"You can't go around assaulting neighbours because they talked with your wife."
"For one thing they know where you live,and you might end up with a molotov cocktail thrown through your letterbox while your asleep."
"Or them or their pals can wait for you to come home in the dark and stove your head in with a baseball bat or a hammer, or stick a knife in you from behind."

ya see guv'ner, it's the man wot's afraid that does the worryin
and not the man wot makes 'em afraid, he has no worries from those that he makes afraid

I learned this lesson when I had Russian neighbors
the worm gets stepped on
but not the rattlesnake
big phuqing difference, innin it now...

"Actions have consequences."
so to does inaction


"chained her to the bedpost"
I've done that, but not out of punishment
I like it when she strains her muscles against the restraints
it makes my slinky go "doing, doing, doing"

all my women are EXTREMELY LOYAL to me
they've never lied to me or cheated me in any way
in return, I always give them the same...
quid-pro-quo
I waved bye-bye to the liars, cheaters, manipulators
as soon as I saw them for what they were
being abandoned is one of their fears
so it's what I give 'em

[Trenchcoat]

You did well CB to make it thirteen years in with a pretty girl. Many probably fall far short of that. I agree that a lot depends upon the girl wanting to be with you.

Work wise though I know many Ukrainian women don't want to work, some do some don't. I think I recall your woman was from the UK but myself I would be happy for a girl not to work, working from home is fine though Just kind of too much temptation at work for a pretty girl some dude is sure to rock up in most workplaces sooner or later, probably many. So having the time to spend with her at home and doing something home based can be good.

In theory one potential idea is something like a smallholding, a few farm animals and vegetables or whatever just to occupy her so long as she doesn't mind that, somewhere nice and out in the sticks far away from any other guys that would crack onto her and the nearest village being full of old farts

I would personally see it as stacking the odds in your favour, no guarantees with anything in life really but such a thing as stacking the odds against yourself with neighbours next door and the rest. Less population = less risk in my book.

[krimster2]

"However, that lack of social skills can be passed onto any children you have if you end up having children with such a woman"

really, what chromsome has the social skills gene Trench
is it the same one for reading English or another?

"for sure but I tend to feel bad about just getting with women for sex if they are after a relationship."

the two are not mutually exclusive
could be an AND
and not an OR
lonely women are almost as horny as lonely men

you British blokes haz lottsa worries
no wonder we hid behind trees and shot ya'll
them bright red coats made it easy to

Trench, pretty much all of your deeply held beliefs are just flat out wrong
because you haven't lived enough to see them contradicted by reality
for you there is no reality
cuz you haven't experienced it yet
cuz you live in a little bubble and you fill it with make-believe

the best thing you could do for yourself is to destroy your bubble
and go start over some place else
but you're growing short on time
and you like your bubble too much

[Chelseaboy]

ya see guv'ner, it's the man wot's afraid that does the worryin
and not the man wot makes 'em afraid, he has no worries from them
I learned this lesson when I had Russian neighbors
the worm gets stepped on
but not the rattlesnake
big phuqing difference, innin it now.

The reality is rattlesnakes get stepped on too.


I've seen a King Cobra get beaten to death with sticks by locals in a village in Thailand.


The Russian tough guys ain't looking so tough in Ukraine either when they're crawling along the bottoms of trenches,their stomachs on the mud like worms, with Ukrainian troops standing over them.


I've never had to grovel like that in my life....because i don't act the tough guy that needs bringing down.

[krimster2]

I don't "act" like something that I'm not...
but because of what I AM
I have no fear of others
that simple mate

I have a lot of experience and training to thank for that even though I hated it at the time

someone who has lived at this level, doesn't worry about the neighbors or the coppers
cuz I've been in situations 100X times worse than these and walked away when it was all over


I've fought every kinda Russian that there is, from ex-special forces to little old ladies
I give no quarter and expect none in return (especially from Russians)
Russians bleed just like every other race of humans and animals I've killed
and most of em went down pretty easily with hardly a peep

too bad about the cobra being killed
I like snakes
I once kept two juvenile rattlesnakes as pets
I really like cobras
especially the Caspian Cobras
the villagers shoulda moved it to some place they could catch rats
I always relocate the snakes I catch to the back garden
to keep it rodent free
snakes are allies

don't get your knickers in a twist
you're British, you can't help being that
you're polite reserved demeanor is instinctive
same way as my American aggression

[Trenchcoat]

the best thing you could do for yourself is to destroy your bubble
and go start over some place else
but you're growing short on time
and you like your bubble too much

You're right Krim, it's my dilemma and not an easy one to resolve. My bubble is where I have grown up all my life, it is essentially my life, so it's not so easy to burst and walk off, burst my bubble and I essentially lose all that. It's not so easy for me to start over as another place can just be another place, alien and with no personal history or life for me. I'm not great socially so while I can get on ok with people making friends quickly on the hoof isn't really who I am. My Mother is much the same, possibly slightly worse, I couldn't walk off and leave her on her own on a permanent basis. She doesn't like to socialise with anyone much outside of her family and my two siblings don't visit her much even though she gets on with them as they both have partners & kids, so busy lives.

When I'm away doing my house conversion I do miss my bubble at home. Life is not the same, not as good, it's ok ish but not as good and I think not something I would want to live on an ongoing basis. I would need a woman for sure, some company and one I get on with. The area where my house is is decent enough though I'm not sure if it's really me or not. Generally the idea is to rent the rooms out in the house so it's not really supposed to be where I necessarily intend to live myself. Where I would feel comfortable other than my home (Mother's house) I don't know. There is a lot of history there growing up so it's not something I think that can be easily replaced. However, unless I pass on first then it's likely to end at some point in time. It could be today, tommorow, next week, month, year, or a decade or more time. Of course the more time that passes the more time that my life goes and the more it becomes too late for anything else. I just don't think my Mother would fare well if I were not there so my situation as you can hopefully see is a difficult one.

It's why I say I will just go out to Moldova probably/hopefully in a Month's time and just see what happens. I may not meet any girl suitable for a relationship or I might do then I'll just have to take it from there and see what if anything can be hammered out. Life is essentially is almost going to have to decide for me. I'm stuck in an awkward situation largely by bad circumstance of me and my Mother not having a good social gene, nothing of my choosing there.

If my bubble was to burst in the near future and I could not hold onto my Mother's place then I think I might struggle living in the UK. The UK doesn't have a great culture socially speaking. I think I would have to go abroad, move around a bit and see if I find my place, somewhere I could feel totally comfortable. I don't think I could live in the UK by myself it just isn't an easy place for a single guy to live. I would doubtless end up on the booze and that would probably be the end for me.

So yeah for sure if anything decent can be worked out before all of that then it would probably be good for me. I know something needs to happen but I can't just turn everything I've ever known upside down either as I don't think that would work out well.

[Trenchcoat]

For the UK, CB is kind of right, you've got to be real careful on doing that sort of Jujitsu stuff. Some will go squealing to the Police and in the UK they are likely to come and take statements, interview you, etc. If there are witnesses, your partner testifies that you did that stuff or anyone else then it will be charged, court, etc. A lot of UK guys can be like that, cause trouble then go squealing to the Police hoping to get the upper hand.

Some guys might just see it as fair cop and bugger off but I wouldn't count on it. In the US it may be different as Police are probably so busy with serious crime there that they just don't have time for what would probably be seen as sillyness. Then of course yeah for sure people can feel humiliated and/or resentful and come back at you with knives, etc. So how someone will react is random so you see it kind of opens up a whole host of potentially bad problem.

Soft skills is what is often needed though it's not always that easy to come by for many. The guy I spoke of was pretty good at delivering some apt phrases that did the trick of letting the guy know she's taken & it's his time to leave without it turning into an awkward confrontation affair. Most western women often seem to take offence if the guy doesn't handle the situation well with some appropriate one liners. If he delivers an aggressive turn if phrase, etc she can often take offence and end up siding with the guy who's cracking onto her or at the very least getting sh*tty with you over it lol. Western women are a real joke they want to have the freedom to play any situation as they wish.

So yeah, that's why I say get a place way out in the country as otherwise just too much constant hassle it would be and also too much risk. In the UK playing a cunning game like that is necessary to avoid all the bs you will otherwise get. After a while in this country you can kind of predict how things will likely go down if you take this or that course if you have a bit up top and from that chart a course around the choppy seas. Head straight full on into those seas and you'll get all the bs of guy after guy who is up his self with he's better than average social skills, car, wealth, gym bod, etc crack onto your girl in a cock sure manner knowing his chances may be good and just not caring about anyone other than himself. Sure at the end of the day if all else fails Jujitsu and damn the sh*tstorm but it really is a last resort.

A lot I think can be seen in UK Schools, in school in the UK you often get the situation where some creep stirs things up, calls names, gets sh*tty, etc. Then when the guy they are doing it to wallops them they go off snivelling to the Teacher. The Teacher nearly always sides with them as they were the ones who were walloped never mind what they did or said. They then come up smelling of roses while the guy who walloped them gets in the sh*t and get told violence is no answer lol. Hence the creeps are protected and those who were reacted punished. Same as when you get older, that's sh*tty UK society for you. So you start to learn how to be a bit more agile when dealing with them and not fall into the trap of delivering the reaction they are looking/hoping for. Otherwise you're likely to get a lot of strife in life.

[krimster2]

we have cops here in Amurica to...
and I'm ALWAYS 10 moves ahead of em
none of 'em are Sherlock Holmes
just average intelligence
and that gives me a big advantage over them
so thery're really not a threat

someone like me has their brain wired differently
I LIKE risk taking and the rewards it gives
you guys don't like it, because of fear
"fear is the great mind killer"

you live the way you want, and drive on the wrong side of the road if you want to
and I'll live my way
for me, I know which way is better, and it's why I choose it
no one here has ever phuqued with me more than once (and Texas has a LOT of phuquers of all kinds)
and as a result, I have far less BS to deal with from idiots
than you passive Brits who are afraid to deal with it
so it keeps repeating

[Trenchcoat]

we have cops here in Amurica to...
and I'm ALWAYS 10 moves ahead of em
none of 'em are Sherlock Holmes
just average intelligence
and that gives me a big advantage over them
so thery're really not a threat

someone like me has their brain wired differently
I LIKE risk taking and the rewards it gives
you guys don't like it, because of fear
"fear is the great mind killer"

you live the way you want, and drive on the wrong side of the road if you want to
and I'll live my way
for me, I know which way is better, and it's why I choose it
no one here has ever phuqued with me more than once (and Texas has a LOT of phuquers of all kinds)
and as a result, I have far less BS to deal with from idiots
than you passive Brits who are afraid to deal with it
so it keeps repeating

Tis different here in the UK Krim, here as I hear it to become a Police Officer you need at least A'Level passes, many have Degrees. That's just to be eligible to apply to become a Police Officer. Once you've applied as I hear it there is a rigourous selection process, interviews, all sorts of tests - psychology stuff, a long run that has to be completed within a certain time. The run seems to draw a certain attraction from women who seem to get off on being able to pas the challenge as they see it, kind of like a badge if honour for them. I sometimes get the impression they are more interested in proving themselves on ageing able to complete the run/marathon in the short time specified than they are with becoming a Police Officer lol.

Anyway, once that is done training begins, apparently another arduous process. Not so arduous as to make recruits drop out but I believe the aim to be more if being comprehensive in training them to deal with the challenges they may face and how to deal with them. On the list of stuff they need to learn is if course the chunky Police handbook of laws in the UK that they can use to nick people with, many and various with all kinds of peculiarities.

That's the rough deal,I don't know specifically as it's what I've heard along the way and never bothered to look up much as I've never wanted to become a Police Officer. The pay isn't great for all the training & sh*t you will have to deal with. I wouldn't fancy doing their job but at the same time have no affinity for the Police force as an organisation either. However as I under it the British police force us usually inundated with applications to join up, even though they are not loved by a lot of the population.

So experience is then gained along the way and all the above usually translates into interview interogation skills. I will give them due credit that they are usually pretty hot on interview interogation and investigation techniques. They will hit you with the law wherever they can and in as many ways as they can often piling on as many offences as to whatever seems to apply (my assumption on this being if one doesn't stick that they hope another will) if they see you as an offender. So honestly if you aren't a Lawyer or haven't read the police handbook of laws back to front which I and most other people haven't due to its size and many people nit knowing even of it's existance then I would be real careful of getting British police offside or getting into any situation where it looks like you may have committed an offence. Usually as I understand it the default 'no comment' is usually the best to stick to in any case if being interviewed since it stops them from obtaining further information that may not work in your favour. If it's a small matter where nothing can be easily proven then failing any further information or evidence they may move onto other stuff.

In general though as you can probably see from all of the above risking an altercation can land you in more bother than you'd hope for. If you're from a background that doesn't care about such then it's not the biggest deal. However if you're from a background where any criminal conviction is bit a badge of honour but one of shame as for most of British society (and perhaps your pretty lady) then it's something usually best avoided if at all possible unless no other choice.

[krimster2]

I PLAN when I have to deal with a "problem"
no one has EVER been able to defeat a well thought out and executed plan of mine
cops don't even have a clue about it
I always use some misdirection for them to grab onto

i'm not your average bear
but they don't know that

I have repeatedly outwitted the FSB who has EVERY advantage
so sherriff bubba is not even a challenge

Russia was just one of the many training grounds for my education
I don't think or behave like a "civilian"
because I'm not one
I was militarized at a very young age
and those traits are who I am
and essential for survival as a foreigner in Russia
as someone who worked in the "underground economy"

[2tallbill]

Pablum is a noun referring to ideas, speech, writing, or other media that are bland or
simplistic or that lack any real intellectual substance or value.

You're right Krim, it's my dilemma and not an easy one to resolve. My bubble is where I have grown up all my life, it is essentially my life, so it's not so easy to burst and walk off, burst my bubble and I essentially lose all that. It's not so easy for me to start over as another place can just be another place, alien and with no personal history or life for me. I'm not great socially so while I can get on ok with people making friends quickly on the hoof isn't really who I am. My Mother is much the same, possibly slightly worse, I couldn't walk off and leave her on her own on a permanent basis. She doesn't like to socialise with anyone much outside of her family and my two siblings don't visit her much even though she gets on with them as they both have partners & kids, so busy lives.

When I'm away doing my house conversion I do miss my bubble at home. Life is not the same, not as good, it's ok ish but not as good and I think not something I would want to live on an ongoing basis. I would need a woman for sure, some company and one I get on with. The area where my house is is decent enough though I'm not sure if it's really me or not. Generally the idea is to rent the rooms out in the house so it's not really supposed to be where I necessarily intend to live myself. Where I would feel comfortable other than my home (Mother's house) I don't know. There is a lot of history there growing up so it's not something I think that can be easily replaced. However, unless I pass on first then it's likely to end at some point in time. It could be today, tommorow, next week, month, year, or a decade or more time. Of course the more time that passes the more time that my life goes and the more it becomes too late for anything else. I just don't think my Mother would fare well if I were not there so my situation as you can hopefully see is a difficult one.

It's why I say I will just go out to Moldova probably/hopefully in a Month's time and just see what happens. I may not meet any girl suitable for a relationship or I might do then I'll just have to take it from there and see what if anything can be hammered out. Life is essentially is almost going to have to decide for me. I'm stuck in an awkward situation largely by bad circumstance of me and my Mother not having a good social gene, nothing of my choosing there.

If my bubble was to burst in the near future and I could not hold onto my Mother's place then I think I might struggle living in the UK. The UK doesn't have a great culture socially speaking. I think I would have to go abroad, move around a bit and see if I find my place, somewhere I could feel totally comfortable. I don't think I could live in the UK by myself it just isn't an easy place for a single guy to live. I would doubtless end up on the booze and that would probably be the end for me.

So yeah for sure if anything decent can be worked out before all of that then it would probably be good for me. I know something needs to happen but I can't just turn everything I've ever known upside down either as I don't think that would work out well.

Rather than hijack another thread with Trenchies brainless fears and meandering
philosophical pablum. What do his silly and flawed theories have to do with the
troubles in Ukraine? Except the fact that he is far too timid to travel there to
find an excellent woman?

I am copying it and pasting his navel gazing here where he waxes on nonpoetically
with his ideas about making himself better or more interesting than he is, usually
using deception of some form.

However, he will implement none of the ideas and he will change nothing. He needs
to focus on things that he chooses not to focus on.

[Trenchcoat]

I PLAN when I have to deal with a "problem"
no one has EVER been able to defeat a well thought out and executed plan of mine
cops don't even have a clue about it
I always use some misdirection for them to grab onto

i'm not your average bear
but they don't know that

I have repeatedly outwitted the FSB who has EVERY advantage
so sherriff bubba is not even a challenge

Russia was just one of the many training grounds for my education
I don't think or behave like a "civilian"
because I'm not one
I was militarized at a very young age
and those traits are who I am
and essential for survival as a foreigner in Russia
as someone who worked in the "underground economy"

I've no doubt that you can work your magic in Russia or the US and it pays off. In the UK however I think it could be less certain perhaps more 50/50. The British police force isn't the same as it was back in the 70s and before. Today its a highly professional organisation albeit with the odd bad egg occasionally popping up. Misdirection may or may not work in the UK depending on what was done and resources assigned to the case. A lot of the higher end police force in the UK that gets assigned to murders, frauds, big money laundering cases are likely well up on that stuff. They may not catch on at first but they could well later. Look up series online, BBC iPlayer, ITV, Channel 4 stuff where the police cover these big assignments like that and it will show you how heavily they go into it all. Some staff they have obviously better than others depending on how high level the case is, who they have available and random factors. I'm not saying the US don't have any decent police investigation teams they obviously solve many cases but that I get the impression can be a little more random. The UK police force tend to have a high degree of expertise in most cases, very few high level crimes go unsolved such as Murder. Obviously that's sort of stuff is not what we're talking about here but even lower level stuff there can be a high level of expertise assigned to getting to the bottom of it all. I've no doubt that some police get off on it all even at lower level stuff of finding out all by applying their training and learning.

In Russia I'm sure the police there could care less if some dude rocked into their station and told them some guy bent his hand backwards, their is no sign of injury but it was painful at the time. They would no doubt see it as a non event and lol. In the UK if you did that to a stranger who was causing you bother and he subsequently went away cursing and scowling I wouldn't hang around, if he didn't know you I would bugger off quickly as there's a 50/50 chance he could be back shortly with police ready to arrest you. That's the kind of b*llocks you get in the UK, it's a silly country in that way, people bother other people and then turn tables on you if you fight back, be very careful. I much prefer the FSU way where the police just don't care unless it's something serious, people learn not to bother others or they risk getting a load of sh*te headed their way. Result, less issues and a more harmonious society.

UK though for sure if you have a pretty girl make sure you've got a good plan like living out in the idyllic countryside with open views of splendid scenery, the fresh air and the country pongs and most of all not a bugger in sight who will be after your chick!

Then all to do is to make sure you're girl doesn't have a car to drive, isn't up to cycling or long walks to the nearest village and had enough stuff around her to keep her content. Then just be around enough to keep her company and drive out to wherever to be at her side at all occasions to put off any unwanted attention

[krimster2]

ju-jitsu is more than just a style of martial arts
it's a style of thinking
a pseudo-omnipotent police force becomes your tool
to use against your enemies
just like in Russia
I don't rely on just on one tool
anymore than a carpenter only has a hammer
I do things myself, only when the grievance is deep enough
that I want to see the look on their face

Trench
your paranoia is your enemy
fear of failure, fear of rejection, all these fears of yours
the boogyman in your closet is imaginary

trying to isolate your woman
is self-defeating
you want the opposite
what you propose doing will sabotage your relationship
this kinda inexperience of yours allowing you to reach false conclusions
is why you would eventually FAIL, if you ever did initially succeed

all-in-all getting a dog is probably your best recourse

[krimster2]

"So Krim, how about you and girls that are facially pretty, could you never hold one permanently?"

been married 23 years, so yes
and have many close relationships with VERY beautiful Russian women
my advocat in Moscow is a 10 and absolutely adores me

but i'm a geezer now who has less testosterone
so one woman is more than enuff for my simple needs (feeding me and cleaning me LOL)

Trench
you're doin this ALL WRONG

consider this
a duck hunter doesn't prowl the woods lookin for ducks
he finds a lake and waits for the ducks to come to him
it helps to have decoys and bait

you need to develop a strategy based on this
find a special interest that'll appeal to wimmin
and start promoting some project of yours in this domain
and wait for the ducks to come


Beel
without Trench and his problems this board would be deader than dead
it's a zombie board
the whole premise of its existence, ended a long, long time ago
nature abhors a vacuum
so Trench fills it

[Trenchcoat]

ju-jitsu is more than just a style of martial arts
it's a style of thinking
a pseudo-omnipotent police force becomes your tool
to use against your enemies
just like in Russia
I don't rely on just on one tool
anymore than a carpenter only has a hammer
I do things myself, only when the grievance is deep enough
that I want to see the look on their face

Trench
your paranoia is your enemy
fear of failure, fear of rejection, all these fears of yours
the boogyman in your closet is imaginary

trying to isolate your woman
is self-defeating
you want the opposite
what you propose doing will sabotage your relationship
this kinda inexperience of yours allowing you to reach false conclusions
is why you would eventually FAIL, if you ever did initially succeed

all-in-all getting a dog is probably your best recourse

Krim you're not understanding how sex starved UK guts are, they would see a beautiful woman and be like a dog on heat. I've heard of many relationships where it's fallen apart because the guy was not on the ball with regard to the threat other guts pose. One colleague of mine at work while back told me of how his wife cheated on him while he was out working hard on night shifts to bring the money in. They had a young kid together and they ended up splitting up over it. The guy was real cut up about it said all he could think about was thus other guys dick up her. Must have been pretty awful for him as you can imagine.

The UK as I hoped you would see is a place where you NEED to be on your guard, if you don't you'll come home to some dudes chatting up your girl on the drive like CB did. What's your reckoning that a girl bored at home presented with the opportunity for a bit of fun with some local guys won't take the opportunity to do so

You say you 'plan' then make a plan for such eventuality in the UK because with a pretty girl UK guts swarm around them like flies around sh*t. My plan would be to go out into the sticks, you often don't have to go far in the UK before you get out of towns, even cities and hit open countryside. My choice would be a place just a little way outside a small village but not a large village. A post office and convenience store is just fine. The best thing about small villages out in the countryside in the UK is that they are nearly always dominated by old farts. Those old farts are now your best chums, the old women are no threat, the old men are too past it and at best may crack a saucy joke or the more able a quick slap on your girls bum but that will pretty much always be the very worst it could get lol. Extremely few youngish girls want to get off with some old codger so nice safe territory. Compare that with being in a town or even a large village where young guys are way more plentiful and will be hitting on your girl all the time. Unless you're very wealthy, fit looking, drive a nice car, get in with her and provide her with all she desires she is going to be away with them in a flash. No paranoia here just how bad UK society has become. Those type of guys won't think twice before hitting on your girl and won't care how much it screws up your life, there are some real assholes out there.

Anyhow my guess as to how to keep a girl occupied out in the sticks is, get her pregnant, do a nice kitchen for her, do a nice herb & veg garden, get in some creative arts stuff - many women love doing that stuff. If she'd into making clothes, pillows etc get a sewing machine & gear. Other than that and if expenses allow hot tubs, susna rooms, even a pool or whatever she is into, games room, big TV, subscriptions etc. Anything to keep her occupied in case you are not quite at hand all other times just go out and about with her, job done

[krimster2]

Trench...
no...just no....


you seem like you've spent your whole life locked up in some kinda cage
with no real knowledge of the outside world
I totally see why you don't wanna leave your bubble
you'd be totally lost the moment you did

I hope one day, you'll realize the futility of your quest
and get a dog and be happy in the bubble
maybe in 15 more years your sex drive will diminish
and you'll be just fine without it
don't worry

[Trenchcoat]

Trench...
no...just no....


you seem like you've spent your whole life locked up in some kinda cage
with no real knowledge of the outside world
I totally see why you don't wanna leave your bubble
you'd be totally lost the moment you did

I hope one day, you'll realize the futility of your quest
and get a dog and be happy in the bubble
maybe in 15 more years your sex drive will diminish
and you'll be just fine without it
don't worry

Using my counter intuitive jui-jitsu thinking I think I can see what you are getting at, you are concerned that she may find it a bit claustrophobic and want to be let off the leash on her own motion to get out there a bit - quite possibly.

Best I can think of on this is to start up a business where we could work on it together. That way plenty of time spent on the main issue that takes up time on most days of most people's life, work. Think I might have just nailed it there

[krimster2]

don't worry Trench, if you ever found yourself married, you'll have plenty of work to keep ya busy
they're called "honey do's" as in honey, do this and  honey, do that....
it's a list that stretches to infinity - and beyond

your problem Trench, is due to lack of experience
you have a very limited understanding of the world
and this limitation controls your inability to plan and act

the only way, you're ever gonna leave your bubble
is to first leave your bubble

but you're never gonna do that
you a bubble boy Trench

too bad they ain't got no pooty tang lottery
a pound a week would give you a better shot at success than whatcha got now

[Trenchcoat]

don't worry Trench, if you ever found yourself married, you'll have plenty of work to keep ya busy
they're called "honey do's" as in honey, do this and  honey, do that....
it's a list that stretches to infinity - and beyond

your problem Trench, is due to lack of experience
you have a very limited understanding of the world
and this limitation controls your inability to plan and act

the only way, you're ever gonna leave your bubble
is to first leave your bubble

but you're never gonna do that
you a bubble boy Trench

too bad they ain't got no pooty tang lottery
a pound a week would give you a better shot at success than whatcha got now

I know, you're correct Krim. The thing is all the while I have been doing my house conversion, which is generally good for me to a point, I've kind of still been existing in that bubble. When I finish the conversion about a month from now that along with dropping my job at some point should allow me to spend less time in my bubble. I don't think I could easily leave it completely not at the moment as it has become all I know and where I kind of fit.

In many ways I think it's kind of easier for someone from a bit do comfortable background to move on. Kids who don't get on with their parents so well, who live in not so attractive accomodation, that I assume isn't so hard to leave in fact it's probably a joy so long as the street corner isn't your next port of call.

So yeah I want to progress and I need to I just need to let it see what happens. At the moment I want to put off any further building projects as they can be very time consuming and putting my personal life first for a while needs to be the priority soon I think.

[krimster2]

Trench
the dating venue of last resort are your local churchs
I'd stick with the "C of E" Church of England
go in there with your "sundy-go-to-meetin" suit
and has a look about...
usually after the riveting sermon concludes, there's some milling around
if'n ya don't find anything, well then next sunday try another one
don't know how far you is from Rochdale, but they have some historic churches that you'd find architecturally interesting and they're bigger than most though there are some smaller ones to, like St Deveraux(sp?)
first rule of predation
be where the prey is
the rest ya need to figure out on your own
don't expect someone else to hold it for ya while ya put it in
you do that, ok?

BTW, religious wimmin are NOT sexually conservative
they phuque like wild weasels
you have to give it to them HARD
I am speakin from experience here

[Trenchcoat]

Trench
the dating venue of last resort are your local churchs
I'd stick with the "C of E" Church of England
go in there with your "sundy-go-to-meetin" suit
and has a look about...
usually after the riveting sermon concludes, there's some milling around
if'n ya don't find anything, well then next sunday try another one
don't know how far you is from Rochdale, but they have some historic churches that you'd find architecturally interesting and they're bigger than most though there are some smaller ones to, like St Deveraux(sp?)
first rule of predation
be where the prey is
the rest ya need to figure out on your own
don't expect someone else to hold it for ya while ya put it in
you do that, ok?

BTW, religious wimmin are NOT sexually conservative
they phuque like wild weasels
you have to give it to them HARD
I am speakin from experience here

Most will be full of old people wanting to get on the bus to heaven.

That and church congregations have fallen here consistently over the last few decades and they tend not to be very large. Possibly a few families with kids as well but probably not very many single women.

Besides I'm not at all a religious kind of guy, it's generally the last place I would want to be. Can't stand all the 'God' this and that prattle.

I know what you mean though, a while back I was working at a building where the local Baptist church were holding their services on a Sunday while their new church was being built (not the traditional C of E type). A bit of a mixed bunch, done older, done families with kids and a few younger. I wasn't part of it but was able to be a bit of an onlooker through working at the building.

There was one woman there that was reasonable enough, I don't think she had any attraction to yours truly though. One eager buck seemed to be trying his luck with her in a casual get chatty sort of way probably hoping she would pick up. Didn't look like the interest was there either with him. Got the impression she didn't really rate him but it was the 'christian' thing to do to be reasonably friendly to whoever.

At one point in the after service chit chat that hey always held the preachers daughter came in, she was around early twenties, blonde and was hot!!! Too young for me but kind of made me laugh, I bet many eager young buck would waste a lot of time nearly all pointlessly chasing her with her being well out of their league.

The service itself consisted of some preaching from the preacher, music playing (different from C of E piano or organ stuff) which was, drums, guitar, type of stuff that they played themselves (the odd one or two who were musical) and at one point they were told to speak to the person at either side to themselves, I guess to get the community thing going. Afterwards like said was a chit chat for half and hour or so and some biscuits.

A friendly enough crowd, a middle aged woman or two stopped to chat to me for a while and offered me some biscuits. I didn't mind the brief chat but I'm careful not to get roped into becoming part of the congregation as it's not my scene.

I've no doubt some guys do pull at those services but I would feel too bad, too phoney like I was living a lie as to who I really am and that would chew me up I think.

My impression was that it was probably about 50/50 of those going meeting others at those services and getting with them and then others meeting in everyday society and the other half not minding going with it or being some sort of christian themselves anyway. It wasn't a big crowd, maybe about around 30 or so. I mean I can see where it has its place if you want to know people, connections, sense of community, possible women you might meet it's an easy thing to join, I don't think they would be fussy so long as you seemed on the level, had some basic idea of religious stuff and weren't just obviously there merely just to pull, they seemed pretty open and friendly. The preacher guy some old boy seemed to have a bit of a high opinion of himself, but fortunately I wasn't that involved being a bit distant from it all.

Anyhow, yeah I've kind of heard similar that religious types are all conservative on the outside but behind closed doors in the bedroom on the quiet are really the opposite. Kind of like they repress themselves to look all prim and proper but they are really supressing their sexual passion of who they really are. I've often found many religious types as not living by the values they say they cherish and that's always kind of put me off those types as well.

For me Moldova is likely to be a more rewarding hunting ground.

[Trenchcoat]

Kind of a thought of the day moment here.

If a girl is not eyeing you up at all should you still try your luck?

I mean if you liked stuff about thought she was a quality girl etc. Usually I don't bother as see it as she has no interest so no point bothering. On the other hand she could be a girl whose not into doing all that a bit shy or whatever, doesn't see it as the done thing, etc but might be an overlooked gem who isn't after boosting her ego with a load of looks from guys. Any thoughts on this one?

[krimster2]

when you "take a gamble"
you need to evaluate what you might win vrs what you might lose
in this situation, you really have nothing to lose
it's like finding a free lottery ticket on the ground, so why not scratch off the number?

fear is the great mind killer, fear of rejection, and fear you'll phuque this up
and that's what holds you back
don't give in to fear, the more you overcome it, the less of it you will experience in the future
even a half-hearted effort beats no effort
the more you try the more likely you are to succeed
and the more you play the game, the better you get at playin it

you need to find one detail about her, other than that she's a woman
and use that as a "segway"
so you need to "read her" whadda ya see?
how would you "categorize her"
what are women in that category interested in?

if it doesn't work out, so what...
at least you gained some experience
for next time

there is no "shyness" gene
it's a learned behavior
and you can also learn to be bold
what you do, is what you are
don't be such a timid little mouse around women
just cuz you're afraid of being rejected by them