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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2020, 05:01:06 PM »
So you dated and screwed a beautiful girl.  You did so in exchange for a trip outside Ukraine and money spent on make up and clothing.  It doesn't mean you had a relationship.  Come back and ask once you've married such a girl, and she is still with you after she has upgraded her education and worked a number of years.


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She would of made more as an escort, i doubt Trench took her on a 5 star trip, she obviously had a good time, had a bit of interest in trench, wanted to see if her feelings developed. I don't know their story, but i doubt it was a simple exchange. I think you underestimate what a young woman could earn if she sold herself. If it was an older women, i would agree, there is not much of a market dating and sex work.

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2020, 05:11:38 PM »
First of all, none of us men who are married to Russian women keep
old photos of old girlfriends unless we have a death wish. Second, I
highly recommend that the married men keep their wife's photos
private because some of the peanut gallery are f#ckers who will
try to track her down and give you grief in the future.

Third of all, I trust my own assessment and seriously doubt .......
I've decided to leave it at that.

I'm not saying that they should post up her photo here. If they post it up on Photofeeler no one here will know. Then they just come back here and honestly tell us the score she got. Around about 10 votes is enough to get a pretty accurate score for anyone on there, up to around 20 votes and it will start to get pretty exact. No money need be spent as you can just vote on other girls pics to earn credits so people vote on the pic you put up. Any takers? Or merely more words ;)
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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2020, 05:14:57 PM »
She would of made more as an escort, i doubt Trench took her on a 5 star trip, she obviously had a good time, had a bit of interest in trench, wanted to see if her feelings developed. I don't know their story, but i doubt it was a simple exchange. I think you underestimate what a young woman could earn if she sold herself. If it was an older women, i would agree, there is not much of a market dating and sex work.


I told Trench's story to UM.  They said it was likely she dumped him after the trip because she had goods she can sell in Ukraine at markets, enough to live fairly well in Ukraine.  This is a very common thing for young women to do, apparently. 



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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2020, 05:25:03 PM »

I told Trench's story to UM.  They said it was likely she dumped him after the trip because she had goods she can sell in Ukraine at markets, enough to live fairly well in Ukraine.  This is a very common thing for young women to do, apparently.

I just checked the prices (Just google ukraine escorts), girls are making 70 euros an hour. I don't know how much Trench spent , but i doubt it was worth it. Foreigners are not seen as good people, men are angry because foreigners come with their money, and take their women. But from the women i have talked to, men talk about providing, but cannot. In the west, how many guys talk about providing????????? We keep our mouths shut, in FSU, they keep their mouths wide open and talk about how deep their soul is, and how they will provide.

Why do you think the women feel entitled? Must be some men supply, and talking, and believe me , it is not foreigners, as some of these girls never came across a westerner , more Turks who come and study in Ukraine. THey get it from the Men here, who buys chains, iPhoneX on contract and pose in suits they barely can afford. I bought a phone recently 135 euros, all i needed was a better camera for work, and my apps to run my business. I look way below what i actually make, women have no idea how much i make, i have been mocked because my business is in a sector that gives an impression i am broke. I actually had a woman mock me because i didn't have a iphone, and i my business sector , she didn't realise what i was actually making. But that business is my passion, and my other source of income, i keep a secret, as they would be able to guess i do fairly well.

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« Last Edit: November 30, 2020, 05:32:03 PM by japtats »

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2020, 05:33:08 PM »
Being an escort for numerous men is far different from sleeping with a man you may find attractive on a "working vacation".  I suspect a lot of young women also would view it as not being a prostitute.

Furthermore, an escort enters Ukraine's criminal world.  She would need protection or she will be shaken down. 
« Last Edit: November 30, 2020, 05:50:16 PM by Boethius »
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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2020, 05:37:53 PM »
Being an escort for numerous men is far different from sleeping with a man you may find attractive on a "working vacation".  I suspect a lot of young women also would view it as not being a prostitute.

that is true, but i remember a long time ago, watching a sugar daddy on youtube that said ' a married man pays for sex, he buys the washing machine, his wife is happy, and gives him sex, he just doesn't realise he is paying for sex'. He theory is fairly correct for a lot of western men that pursue FSUW.

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2020, 06:02:27 PM »
Being an escort for numerous men (women?) is far different from sleeping with a man you may find attractive on a "working vacation".  I suspect a lot of young women also would view it as not being a prostitute.

Japs is right in that she would have made more as a pro, particularly on the Kiev trip. On the Kiev trip I bought her, a coat probably around £40-50 if that but no more, a book (about £10), a mobile phone cover (£5 ish), a brolly (a good quality one about £30 or so), a bra set (a good quality one, guessing about £30-40) and a bikini top and bottom (another £30-40 I think). Also paid for a haircut for her, I guess about £30 ish. I paid for restaurant, taxi's, entertainment as expected and for apartment together and for groceries.

On the following trip to Cyprus I bought a fair bit more for her but that was because I thought we could get it together. I played it all wrong and have learnt from my mistakes.

I personally now believe given all that I have read since that she a). Genuinely wanted to get married to a guy as she stated, she once stated to me that she was not a liar on that I believe her, and b). despite being honest she was manipulative and because she was pretty wanted to be treated as a princess and that came with princess syndrome/attitude.

I think she didn't see that the two would not work well for her with any guy, that it would always be doomed to sink her thus why she was still single. I don't doubt that she likely sold some off the stuff in the market but I don't think that was her prime motivation for dating western men. A year or so after we ended she took herself off the dating site she was on and I haven't seen her on any since, not that I obsessively look for her though.

I'm pretty sure if she wanted to just go out for the money she could have found more profitable avenues in FSU foreign dating. The AFA tours run through Kherson and she could have easily taken many off those men for a ride, but I have never seen her on any of the videos they do. When I asked her she said she won't go to them as women that are prostitutes go there. There was never any formal money/clothes for favours between us. I think she expected stuff out of a relationship but didn't realize that it undermines the relationship but her want for clothes fashion was so strong unfortunately.
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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2020, 01:00:56 AM »
Well, well, the thread has moved on from ,"should I worry about my future FSU wife getting fatter?" to Trench suggesting he has pulled the best looking lass and can prove it via the scores he got by putting her images up for guys to 'vote' ?))))))

Trench, do get get how pointless an exercise that was....?

She was not your girlfriend anymore....If she knew what you did, it would confirm here lucky escape.

Those of us with wives do not need to post photos of their wives on your suggested photo sharing site...the only 'scores that count ' are the one's we 'give'.  If you love your wife, you do not need to know what score she'd achieve...

Until you figure that out...


I saw Beel's comment on sharing photos of the wife and cannot agree with his reasoning.

In all the years doing what he suggests not to do, neither of my RU wives were contacted by a bloke seeking to stir trouble...another RU wife of a WM did at his suggestion..seeking to bump up forum traffic,  but they had already met and was not 'thanked' and were never on her Christmas card list and they knew how to contact her, anyway.

I appreciate Beel's right to choose, not his reasoning.

Back on topic:

Wives that keep their figures can buy kids clothes, modify them and get asked, "where did you buy that dress?"



















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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2020, 02:36:48 AM »
Me? that's a different story. I'm the one that needs more attention in that area and should lose about 15 lbs or so.  Added little under a pound a year together, mostly due to her exceptional cooking and work that has me sitting at the computer most of the day.

How true.

I've just turned 40, don't play competitive sport anymore, the gyms are shut and much of my work is currently done sitting at a desk. Age is a factor as is diet but its my activity I need keep an eye on.

Normally I'd be gym/swim 4 times a week and a bit of running but lockdown coupled with a more static work environment means I really need to push myself to do more or cut back on the treats. Now its dark here at 4pm and you need to be super motivated to get out in the cold and go running.

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2020, 02:59:59 AM »
They don't dream of the UK.  If they dream of an English speaking country, it is the US.

I disagree.

Some will and some won't but from my own experience (dating & speaking with my wife single friends), many would prefer to meet someone in Europe and the UK/Ire is the only place they speak English. So if they dream of an English speaking country it isn't going to be the US or Canada.

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2020, 03:09:15 AM »
I saw Beel's comment on sharing photos of the wife and cannot agree with his reasoning.

Some of us are motivated differently. I see some people sharing all kinds of personal moments in various stages of undress, of their own wife but out of respect for Mrs Rosco, I wouldn't dare. I have done with GF's in trip reports 10 years ago but I think its quite distasteful to be doing that with my wife.

We're all different but I suspect most of us would act like Bill and I.

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2020, 03:10:41 AM »
Wives that keep their figures can buy kids clothes, modify them and get asked, "where did you buy that dress?"

Thats an odd one. Does your wife dress in children clothing?

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2020, 04:34:32 AM »
I disagree.

Some will and some won't but from my own experience (dating & speaking with my wife single friends), many would prefer to meet someone in Europe and the UK/Ire is the only place they speak English. So if they dream of an English speaking country it isn't going to be the US or Canada.

I saw Boethius' comments and gulped...

'RWD announcement'.. there has been a seismic event ..Moby ( sort of )  agreed with Rosco ..

For sure, many FSU W seem to look less to N.America ( esp. USA)  .. but I felt that was more Russian women rather that UA / BY ladies ..

I know plenty of ladies who would chose ( have chosen) a French, Italian, German speaking guy, if they thought they were worthy ... English was/ is used to communicate, esp. in the earliest days

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2020, 04:37:31 AM »
Thats an odd one. Does your wife dress in children clothing?
Don’t they come cheaper in the UK?
Maybe Moobs is trying to save some pennies. Maybe his pension doesn’t allow for a big clothes allowance?

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2020, 04:38:59 AM »
Some of us are motivated differently. I see some people sharing all kinds of personal moments in various stages of undress, of their own wife but out of respect for Mrs Rosco, I wouldn't dare. I have done with GF's in trip reports 10 years ago but I think its quite distasteful to be doing that with my wife.

We're all different but I suspect most of us would act like Bill and I.

Rosco, perhaps you didn't read, properly ?

Beel offered his reasoning and I countered why I didn't agree with his reasoning ...  though it is his business. I just wouldn't advise not to do so, based on his reasoning. 

YOU have offered another reason and that's fine ... It is up to the couple concerned and if neither mind.. that's up to them ..




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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2020, 04:54:40 AM »
Well, well, the thread has moved on from ,"should I worry about my future FSU wife getting fatter?" to Trench suggesting he has pulled the best looking lass and can prove it via the scores he got by putting her images up for guys to 'vote' ?))))))

Trench, do get get how pointless an exercise that was....?

She was not your girlfriend anymore....If she knew what you did, it would confirm here lucky escape.

Those of us with wives do not need to post photos of their wives on your suggested photo sharing site...the only 'scores that count ' are the one's we 'give'.  If you love your wife, you do not need to know what score she'd achieve...

Until you figure that out...


I saw Beel's comment on sharing photos of the wife and cannot agree with his reasoning.

Ah, I see I have thrown down the gauntlet to be picked up and our Mobe stands there gingerly eyeing it but fearful to pick it up!

I'm not saying it is all down to looks, I never specifically went to go at get a model looking girl I wrote to all sorts they were just the ones that turned up. A lot of the prettier model looking girls can't get the guy they wish for at home due to a lot of guys not making the economic grade hence why so many on dating sites.

Japs here works his arse off so wants a top quality girl in all aspects including looks. I don't blame him there is no doubt that looks in usual western circumstances gets a person further, we're all superficial at the end of the day whether we like it or not.

Now are you going to pick up that gauntlet I've thrown down Mobers or chose instead to zip it up!
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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2020, 05:08:03 AM »
I saw Boethius' comments and gulped...

'RWD announcement'.. there has been a seismic event ..Moby ( sort of )  agreed with Rosco ..

Lol that's twice this year!! Watch yourself.....

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2020, 05:08:54 AM »
Don’t they come cheaper in the UK?
Maybe Moobs is trying to save some pennies. Maybe his pension doesn’t allow for a big clothes allowance?

VAT free on kids.

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2020, 05:13:42 AM »
Rosco, perhaps you didn't read, properly ?

Beel offered his reasoning and I countered why I didn't agree with his reasoning ...  though it is his business. I just wouldn't advise not to do so, based on his reasoning. 

YOU have offered another reason and that's fine ... It is up to the couple concerned and if neither mind.. that's up to them ..

No I read properly.

I just gave you my reasons and its probably not too far away from what Bill thinks too. Protection from weirdo's is part of it but decency and respect is another. I'm super proud of my wife and think she looks great but personally it'd be bizarre splashing unprompted bikini/underwear pics of her around the net, for strangers to stare at. It certainly wouldn't be for her benefit and I don't need or want that attention either.

Each to their own though.

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2020, 05:20:18 AM »
Thats an odd one. Does your wife dress in children clothing?

Once again, you find what you cannot appreciate / haven't or cannot consider, 'odd' ...

I seem to prefer petite ladies ...  I certainly do not suggest  or insist they wear children's clothes ..

V chose a child's dress from Monsoon Kid's and modified it to get married in.  Nobody had a clue..  She just saw that she could make something from it

SC regularly buys kids clothes and modifies them..

My mother bought a pair of Russell and Bromley kids Patent Leather brogues in the sales a few year back for silly money and V bought a pair of patent leather boots in R&B - hence my taking Ma there.

NOTHING odd about having more choice ...
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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2020, 05:24:03 AM »
Ah, I see I have thrown down the gauntlet to be picked up and our Mobe stands there gingerly eyeing it but fearful to pick it up!

Nope.. the reaction is abhorrence at your suggestion .. 

Again, my ego doesn't need massaging by posting a 'babuska in a bikini' to score points . SC earns actual money from modelling and selling her bikinis .. points do not earn prizes in your 'example'




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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2020, 05:27:50 AM »
VAT free on kids.

Oh dear, you quoted confused as to who he is / where he is,  'JG' ..  :rolleyes:

Indeed, in the UK there is no 'sales tax' and *I* know that, but I hardly think my Russian wives knew / know that. 

My mother might not even have known it, and it was having something different that appealed

V got LOADS of people asking where she bought her wedding dress from..




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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #72 on: December 01, 2020, 05:39:11 AM »
No I read properly.

That's quite amusing, given the fact I explained why that clearly couldn't be the case !

NOW, you are offering your reasoning and it doesn't  bear any resemblance to Beel's reasoning, in print ..

Each to their own though.

Agreed..



This dress was not bought, but designed and made entirely by SC

Why can't we get decent 'Sapogi' in the UK? ( unless you know different )



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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #73 on: December 01, 2020, 05:51:32 AM »
SC earns actual money from modelling and selling her bikinis

Yes, she has a unique look that would appeal to more mature/older women.

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Re: Did your wife gain extra mass after marriage?
« Reply #74 on: December 01, 2020, 05:56:40 AM »
Nope.. the reaction is abhorrence at your suggestion .. 

Again, my ego doesn't need massaging by posting a 'babuska in a bikini' to score points . SC earns actual money from modelling and selling her bikinis .. points do not earn prizes in your 'example'

Great! Now think of how much more she would earn if she got a real model to model them ;D

Again, I'm only hearing more words Mobers!
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