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Title: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 12, 2019, 07:37:32 AM
years ago when I was living in Sevastopol, I wanted to have a proper freakin boat, minimum 35 ft length and be able to sleep family and guests
but because back then it was under Ukraine, just to get a spot in the marina combined with "protection"
involved such HUGE corruption and so many pay-offs and deals that needed to be made
that I gave up in frustration at getting a real boat, cuz if I did it would likely be stolen or destroyed in the first year!!!!

so, all I ended up with was this, purchased in Balaklava with its own slip and krisha ALREADY PAID!!...
8 meters, 75HP outboard!!!  big enough for my family to sleep inside, small head and galley for my wife
as fate would have it, I left Crimea a year after buying this, so my kids and I didn't get to enjoy this too much...
wife didn't like it AT ALL, but kids and I loved it!!!  great adventures on the chorny moira
our usual trip was to leave Balaklava harbor and head past cape Fiolent to Sevastopol buy a pizza at Chilantono's Pizza and back again to Balaklava
roughly a 7 mile drive from my apartment to the marina in Balaclava
here's a pic from one time when we docked in downtown Sevastopol harbor...


next year, I'll be looking at speed boats for the Moskva, don't know too much about them, the popular brands in Russia are European like Renault, LOL not sure I'd trust a FRENCH speed boat!!!
but the one I was in last month, was pretty sweet and I've NEVER been that fast on ANY boat, let alone racing one on the Moscva river with a bunch of lunatics!!

another pic from back then...
you have to be an American living in Russia
and father of two girls
to know why you take your daughters
to martial arts class every day after school
and encourage them and reward them whenever they beat the crap out of a boy a head taller than them...
Russia does not make weak people
if you want to survive there you have to be STRONG and SMART...
and be able to kick some ass...
THEY CAN!!!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 12, 2019, 10:39:56 AM
Why does anyone want an 'iron Topsail '?)

 

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: ML on September 12, 2019, 11:09:17 AM
As I understood it, you and daughter liked the Rice arrangement because she would not be too far away from family for frequent visits.

That should work out fairly well when you are living in Moscow.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 12, 2019, 01:53:57 PM
Moscow is ONLY for the summers and my youngest daughter only guarantees me two summers in Moscva!
I could never survive another winter there!!!
the ONLY thing you do in Mosckva in the winter is run into and out of your apartment to somewhere as FAST as possible...
unless the sidewalks are icy, in which case you wear ski boots and walk VERY slowly...
so NO! 
never another freakin' winter there!!!

my oldest daughter was on TV in Moscow this year and last year and got a LOT of attention...
two movie studios reached out to her and she sent them her photos and they are VERY interested in her...
my daughter likes Moscva because of all the social network she has there
which is much "higher caliber" then what she has in the USA....
so she is going to be like me and try to make a life living in both places at least for awhile...


but summers are WAY cool in Moscva!
especially hangin out with moy bratnoy who are freaking insane Russian lunatics!!!!  not boring at all!!!
plus I'm making just ridiculous BC money there and OMG paying NO TAXES!
so it become a question of where do you buy real estate using an offshore shell corporation with nominee directors
in a bitcoin for euro or dollar  swap...

the economics of bitcoin in Russia are AMAZING!!!!
super cheap electricity in Irkutsk Oblast plus bankrupt grocery chain's frozen food storage facility purchased under the table...
1024 bitcoin mining ASICS electricity costs = 10,000 rubles/day about $4500 month and about same amount in bribes...
this rig can pull in over 12 million/yr USD in bitcoin that no one in Russia or even USA can ever legally touch or regulate!!!!

my "organizatze" is selling these systems to connected savvy oligarchs and we build our own that we sell shares in...
we bring our ASIC cards in to Russia as PC video cards that are taxed at $100 value instead of $3000 value!!!
so we owe $20,000 VAT instead of $600,000 VAT, spossiba' krisha!!!
built-in cooling inside the giant empty "cold storage" of a bankrupt grocery chain...
plenty of room for future expansion!!!

a 1024 unit rack retails for 8 million USD - assembled and running and I receive a 10 % YEARLY commission from operating and maintaining the system, this is all hands free for the owner
who is given an offshore shell corporation in a tax free country with nominee directors in which to conduct business transactions
part of the ecosystem now includes anonymous bitcoin real estate services in the USA and abroad through bitcoin currency swaps
where the "counter-party" purchases the property in cash and then sells to the offshore Isle of Man registered shell corp for Russian bitcoin...
it's a way of laundering on both ends, this system has been successfully tested in both Europe and the USA...


Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 12, 2019, 02:00:32 PM
"Why does anyone want an 'iron Topsail '?)"

wood is not really part of the tradition here
which is all iron or what they call "stalnoy" here, horrosho!!...

I was lucky to be able to buy this little boat actually...
it was incredibly hard back then to get a marina slip
due to all the krishas and mafias you needed to pay-off
almost impossible to bring in a NEW boat so you could only buy someone else's OLD one!!
and only rarely would one be for sale...

in the fields around Balaklava after it rains, my children would wander around and look for Crimean war coins and bullets just laying on the ground!!!
they found hundreds!!!!!  mostly British!!!  almost all were British pennies with Queen Victoria and George IV and even George III!!!  only one shilling from George III!!!
a few french coins with Napoleon!!! no Russian ones!!!




Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: calmissile on September 12, 2019, 03:04:38 PM
"Why does anyone want an 'iron Topsail '?)"

wood is not really part of the tradition here
which is all iron...
I was lucky to be able to buy this little boat actually...
it was incredibly hard back then to get a marina slip
due to all the krishas and mafias you needed to pay-off
almost impossible to bring in a NEW boat so you could only buy someone else's OLD one!!
and only rarely would one be for sale...

it the fields around Balaklava after it rains, my children would wander around and look for Crimean war coins and bullets just laying on the ground!!!
they found hundreds!!!!!  mostly British!!!  almost all were British pennies with Queen Victoria and George IV and even George III!!!  only one shilling from George III!!!
a few french coins with Napoleon!!! no Russian ones!!!

Balaklava and the nearby ruins were some of my fondest memories of my trips to Ukraine/Crimea.   The cold war submarine base inside the mountain was unforgettable.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 12, 2019, 04:08:48 PM
fortunately, current Russian subs are too large to fit in Balklava so the Russian Navy won't reactivate the base...
the harbor is actually pretty small an NO ROOM for big boats!

when you head out of the harbor you immediately pick up a good wind that takes you all the way past Fiolent
and you make good time!!!

next summer if I have my place in Moscva finished I will buy a marina slip hopefully not too far away
and buy a shallow draft jet boat and race with the guy who I hope becomes my future son in law
and if that happens, then I am automatically a "made man" in Moscva!!

and my wife will have to give me "carte blanche" as far as my behavior goes
because she understands that I have to be a team player
which means whatever the other guys do, I have to do as well...
sweet!!!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: ML on September 12, 2019, 08:12:24 PM
Citizens of USA must lawfully pay USA Federal Income taxes on worldwide income.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 12, 2019, 08:29:30 PM
"Citizens of USA must lawfully pay USA Federal Income taxes on worldwide income"

yeah, too bad my expenses were so high that it produced no profit - so no income
it's called "transfer pricing"
it's so "money laundering 101"ish but with bitcoin - that it'd be on the first page of the book if there ever was one
no profits equals no taxes
but every 1024 rig I sell nets my organizatze a profit of 6 million USD and about 1.2 million USD per yr...
this gets split up a LOT of different ways however!!!
there are MANY mouths to feed here!!!!
BUT...
it's going to make an OBSCENE amount of money!!!


Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: ML on September 12, 2019, 08:36:38 PM
"Citizens of USA must lawfully pay USA Federal Income taxes on worldwide income"

yeah, too bad my expenses were so high that it produced no profit - so no income
it's called "transfer pricing"
it's so "money laundering 101"ish but with bitcoin - that it'd be on the first page of the book if there ever was one

Transfer pricing causes profits in one country to be shown in another country.
Transfer pricing does not, in itself, cause zero world wide profits.
False tax accounting is necessary to report zero profits worldwide, when there are real profits being generated.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 12, 2019, 08:50:51 PM
it's not false if you have all the proper invoices that shows that income minus expenses equals zero...
and if you are not in the listed board of directors or owners of a corporation, why would you report it's non profit on your personal taxes?
and if the shell corporation is in a tax haven like Isle of Man, then there is no tax at all on ANY foreign income!
ponimayu?  horrosho!!

dewd, this stuff is just SO EZ!!!!
and I get young guys to do all the hard physical work!!!!!


Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: ML on September 12, 2019, 09:01:23 PM
it's not false if you have all the proper invoices that shows that income minus expenses equals zero...


So I guess that is a pretty good strategy to run a business and never earn a profit.

Some people work very hard and unfortunately still end up with zero; your goal seems to be to end up with zero.  So good work.  Good that you have some one else to pay your bills.  A Bernie fan it seems.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 12, 2019, 09:16:05 PM
I know, it's GREAT right!!!!
can you imagine the freakin storm that'd happen if democrats pick Biden
and Russians take down Biden through a hit piece on Rosemont Seneca Partners sourced from Ukraine and it's even worse than what they did to Hillary and wikileaks and Trump WINS AGAIN?

btw, why is Kolomoisky attacking the former president of the NBU, if not for why I already told you months ago...
because he is going to use PrivatBank to loot the NBU of ALL RESERVES!!

http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ex-nbu-head-gontareva-decries-persecution-after-arson-attack-hit-and-run.html

if I told you all THE INSANE STUFF I saw going in Moscow last month you'd be in shock!!!
one day the curtain will be pulled aside and the world is going to be surprised at what is revealed!!!!
but that's all I can say on that...
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 12, 2019, 11:07:10 PM
Krimster,

I know f'all about crypto currency, but an iron Topsail is a motor boat!)

I like sailing boats...the motor for use as you enter leave the port)

PS.. I see many motor boats in Sochi harbour that are registered in UK Caribbean dependencies.....


Putin's private yacht....which he always denied was his was so registered when it was based in Sochi...  May be he sold it....It was the biggest...biggest than the Official Presidential yacht...ordered from Turkey, by his popular 'PM' while President for four years..

So, no problem to buy a new one ;)

I am sure the Tomazhni boys have not had official duty payments for such offshore owned vessels.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: JayH on September 13, 2019, 12:05:22 AM

Moscow is ONLY for the summers and my youngest daughter only guarantees me two summers in Moscva!


Ahh  I see -- thankyou for explaining  that -- for a moment I was thinking not only is Rice NOT Ivy League it was not even in America ! :)
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 13, 2019, 05:52:30 AM
" Rice NOT Ivy League it was not even in America"

it's in Texas, so it's kinda in America...
spend a summer in Texas, and you'll see why I prefer to spend them in Moscow...
spend a winter in Moscow, and you'll see why I prefer to spend them in Texas...
some birds are smart enough to fly somewhere else each year for an improved weather situation, and some aren't...

the migration of oligarch's and their nesting and mating habits
has lately become a focus of my attention
as I try to get in the door
down on the first floor

all the strange things I have been witness to in Moscva
the ominous signs of an impending storm

haha, looks like Trump has bought the "Biden/Seneca dirt" from "Ukraine"
as I told y'all months ago this was COMING, so get ready because just one step away now before public release of next year's version of 2016's Wikileaks and Hillary's Emails...

normally, I'd say the American people are not SO STUPID that they'd be fooled by Russians a SECOND time...
but compared to Russians, Americans are pretty stupid, so I'm pretty sure this plan will work just as well the second time as it did the first time!!!
and there will be another Trump term!!!



Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 13, 2019, 06:06:34 AM
"but an iron Topsail is a motor boat!)
I like sailing boats...the motor for use as you enter leave the port)"


yeah, but not really much of a choice when it came to boats back then...
you got whatever you could...

Moscow is different, the have boat dealerships with beautiful saleswomen who will take you out for a test drive...
BUT unlike Ukraine, they also have militsa with boats!!! 

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 13, 2019, 06:56:55 AM
I just need a sunbathing deck where I can observe the safety of my crew
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 13, 2019, 08:08:18 AM
indeed, keep them under (im)proper observation at all time, stiff upper lip, eh?!!

what a chick magnet even a little boat like that was in Crimea back then!
but my daughters were INSANELY jealous and would not allow ANY other females on board but them...
whenever we docked in Sevastopol, DROVES of young girls/women would surround us...
but my daughters would swear at them in Russian to make them go away!!!!

only drawback of that boat was the deep keel meant I couldn't take it in shallow water
but there was a beach in walking distance to my house that had a deep cove, kids could walk there with my wife and swim out to the boat!!!!
we even spent the night there once!   pic enclosed
ahhhh, good times!!!!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 13, 2019, 09:27:00 AM
I would love to buy a Dragonfly 28..a Trimaran with 'wings'  that fold in... To make it suitable for trailer sailing and monohull rates in marinas.

When the wind is fresh it can tow a water skier ..


Not cheap at 150k Euro...but it can blow away speedboats and lots of deck space when cruising

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9EmCPxCPs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9EmCPxCPs)

Video of water skier @ 6:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgUfI-avsjQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgUfI-avsjQ)

2nd vid is of an OLD model...The new one in Vid 1 has rudders on the wings, for when the boat is not flat, controllability.

 



Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 13, 2019, 11:11:11 AM
nice! stable and easy to sail and not too big, and like you say tow it with the Range Rover!
I have my heart set on the Yamaha 275E 27 footer (pic enclosed!)  twin 1.8L are stock but you can get them custom with twin 2.4L turbocharged!!!!!
base price is 8.4 million rubles without all taxes, etc, etc... plus all the extras might run to over 10 million rubles...

but this is a boat I could race with my crew on the Moscva and not be too embarrassed....
I will start out racing against other guys in my organization and then we square off against guys who are in other organizations
all while trying to avoid the rechnaya militsa....

I've co-piloted a few times with my daughter's boy friend, he has a similar sized boat, but a Renault, brand new, completely custom made boat that cost over $500,000 in Moscow!!
he's been nice enough to teach me the basics of operating these kinda boats on the Moscva River, which is certainly a new experience for me!!!
but the racing is HIGHLY competitive between different groups, since I'm the only American in my group, you're under a lot of pressure to be always EXCEPTIONAL!!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 13, 2019, 11:32:50 AM
Nice...but it is a poseur's boat))
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 13, 2019, 12:37:06 PM
oh yeah?
what would you recommend in that size and HP?
keep in mind the Yamaha's twin engines can be tricked out to yield over 400 HP!!...
it's a pretty fast hull that hydroplanes at 40+ knots

I'm no poseur like that down under blunder, the low born from Melbourne
when I get my rig I'll show ya'll pics...

I'll show ya'll  pics of my new place in Moscow when I finish it and my boat after that, hopefully everything will be ready next summer...

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: Davo on September 13, 2019, 06:00:38 PM
Nice...but it is a poseur's boat))

Probably he means that’s the boat you take your kids to watch the racing in. It’s the equivalent of driving an RV in NASCAR, if it’s real racing and not just a bit of fun on the weekend.

I’ve done some work on racing boats, particularly for my engine builder who owns a lower class boat (pic below) His boat makes 700hp on methanol and would weigh less than half the weight of your Yamaha “cruiser”.

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 13, 2019, 06:12:02 PM
these aren't JUST for racing but cruising and for making sales pitches to customers on "excuretse",
I can't imagine the boat you're suggesting be good for anything but racing!!!!
this boat will be used for racing maybe 5% of the time!

it really is a business INVESTMENT and not a toy!!!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 13, 2019, 06:44:48 PM
I think the appropriate initials are P.E.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 13, 2019, 09:00:04 PM
Hi Krimster,

Do not take the 'poseur' comment to heart..…!

I love the speed, I just like 'doing it', naturally )
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 13, 2019, 09:57:58 PM
I feel your pain...
I'd prefer ocean going under sail as well...
my kids and I recently rented a Catamaran in South Padre Island, Texas for some smooth sailing in the gulf...
perfect weather for catching those nice breezes
it feels like you're a frisbee gliding over the water with a delicious cool breeze in the hot sun!

but Moscva is FAR away from the Atlantic or even Chorny Moira!!!
I've never really done this kind of river boating before!!!!
it's as much for business as it is for pleasure
and it's what I have to do to fit in here!!!

Moscva river has its own navigation rules and special police, you have to share the river with commercial traffic especially "up north" where I don't really intend to go
extreme speed is actually seldom used except in portions of the southern Moscva, the Yamaha will be more than fast enough...
pic of cruising on the northern Moscva
southern Moscva can be more "country" you can even beach your boat (and these boats are VERY shallow draft!) and setup a camp and do whatever you want without hassles from local militsa in machina
who leave the people in these boats COMPLETELY alone for some reason!!
slovo!

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: BillyB on September 14, 2019, 09:38:09 AM
it really is a business INVESTMENT and not a toy!!!


Hey! That what drug smugglers tell their boat salesman.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 14, 2019, 09:56:52 AM
Buying a luxury boat is like standing under a shower ripping up 100 USD bills..

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: BillyB on September 14, 2019, 10:40:07 AM

I owned a boat once. I was told the two best days of a boaters life is the day he buys the boat and the day he sells it. I realized how true that was the day I sold my boat.I had a lot of fun with the boat but it was high maintenance.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 14, 2019, 11:34:47 AM
guys
next year I plan on selling AT LEAST 92 million USD in bitcoin ASICS to a Russian “organizatze", plus this organization will own its own racks that I get a piece of...

that’s like 1000 times the cost of the boat

when you can source your own ASICS to build systems at 10% the cost of the leading Chinese vendor and combine it with electricity that is 10% of the lowest in the USA...
then you lead the market
Russia is a multi-billion BC plum begging to be picked

there’s also a HUGE incentive for rich Russians to hold bitcoin!
it is BEYOND the control of the Russian government!!
as well as the American one!!
they can’t take it from you, and they don’t even know you have it!!!

cruzin down the Moscva is a lot of fun the more south you go and get away from the city
all the more reason to have a shallow draft boat like the Yamaha and NOT a sail boat
which would NOT be too handy on the southern Moscva but no big deal on a powerboat!

one of the stops I made along the southern Moscva had a little stand of some local Russian farmer selling honey and homemade candy
I bought about 10 jars of different kinds of honey for 4000 rubley
incredibly delicious!!!

das boat...
primary purpose
will be used to take customers on a cruise from the Marina Restaurant to our Moscow office...
that has a 32 card demo rig running off the local grid and making a profit of about $30,000 per month and using about $1,500 of electricity per month...

interesting fact....
I have seen A LOT of naked women on boats in Russia!!!!
A LOT!!!
and I'm not talking about my family, nudity in Russia is WAY more common than in the USA or UK!!!!
NO!!!
I mean almost every boat has a topless or naked woman on board!!!!! 
every one!!!!

AND....
I swear this is true, at 20 knots or above every woman's nipples will be as hard as a freakin marble!!!!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: Grumpy on September 14, 2019, 01:25:29 PM
I owned a boat once. I was told the two best days of a boaters life is the day he buys the boat and the day he sells it. I realized how true that was the day I sold my boat.I had a lot of fun with the boat but it was high maintenance.

I feel the same way about my ex-wife. ;D good riddance!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 14, 2019, 07:09:24 PM
Krimster,

SC consumes a lot of honey and 4k Roubles for 10 jars.. if large 1 litre ones is a bargain...Can I ask if passing next time if he says black honey at this rate !?

We normally pay 1k / jar.

If going so fast makes a lady 'feel chilly'  then is there not a risk of jumpers coming out ?)

Much better to charter in the Med to facilitate mermaid mode?)



Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 14, 2019, 07:38:22 PM
I don't think the jars are liter sized, maybe 1/2 that...
farmer's markets with local honey for sale is pretty common in the south of Moscva...
and MANY unique kinds and flavors

you buy some of that honey, a liter basket of fresh raspberries and a bottle of fresh cream from the local gastranome....
and put in all a bowl with the honey poured on top...
this was my kid's favorite snack when they were little...

once you sail past Dzerzhinsky you start to leave the urban Moscva landscape behind
and it becomes more rural with forests bordering the river...
I found a really cool island in the river, just beach your boat, and jump off the bow
you won't even get your feet wet
and you have your own private island...
militsa will NOT bother you here!!!!

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 14, 2019, 07:52:17 PM
If going so fast makes a lady 'feel chilly'  then is there not a risk of jumpers coming out ?)

chivo? nyet!!!
a gentleman will blow warm air on his fingers and then gently place them over her siski to warm them...
right?

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: BdHvA on September 15, 2019, 09:20:05 AM
Worth noting the Finn Class World Cup was held on the Moscow river a number of years ago. From sailors I know it was quite the circus & spectacle.

Only cars, hydroplane or aquaplane, sail and motor boats simply plane. This means the wind or engine is propelling the vessel so there is a clean break between the hull and water. There is less friction between the water and the hull.

As for a motor vessel why would any one but a total loser want a plastic fantastic French/Japanese piece of shit? Man up and buy a Hinckley Talaria Picnic boat. Depending on the engines can easily get to 45+ knots, water jet powered and very shallow draft. Looks elegant (in Russia a standout) and supper comfortable for guests. A used approximately ten year old vessel in Bristol shape will cost between 400,000 and 800,000 US $. Depends on motor, LOA and options.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 15, 2019, 10:11:13 AM
haha, that would be the kinda boat my DAD would've bought, he had a 40 foot Chriscraft in the Chesapeake bay up until the late 80s that looked similar HIS was for deep sea ocean fishing in the Atlantic!!!

The Yamaha dealership has everything I need for maintenance and includes a maintenance contract
a big selling point, since they're located right on the MARINA, so they will come to your boat if necessary!!
maintenance is a "bolshoi problema" in Russia if you own some exotic expensive 'machina' or' teknika'

kinda blown away that there's more fishing in the Moscva river than there was in the Black Sea!
CRAZY!!

I carried fishing poles for my kids on our old boat, and we would take frequent stops and launch our raft to the shore and explore
so we ended up in un-fished places inaccessible from roads and fished there....
"zaboot" about trying to catch decent sized fish in the Black Sea - there really aren't any you can catch!!
so we ended up NEVER catching any decent sized fish AT ALL in Krim no matter how hard we tried...
Crimea has no fish :(
just legends....

only thing edible out of the black sea were the scallops, which are delicious and plentiful!
when my daughters were little I taught them to snorkel and go to the bottom and "hit" the scallop beds!!!
you have a weighted burlap sack that you leave on the bottom and put the scallops you catch inside
BUT you have to close the bag, because the scallops can escape by comically flapping it's shells back and forth
my daughters would like to catch them just to make them do this
but I told them it was cruel and that we should be nice to the animals we're about to eat!
EVEN the unkosher ones!

our galley had a 2 burner propane stove
I shucked the scallops and sliced them all VERY thin with my sushimi knife
my daughters made two bowls for preparation...
one bowl had eggs mixed with cream
and another bowl had flour mixed with a little pepper and salt
dip sliced scallop in egg batter then in flour and drop on hot griddle on maximum - make em sizzle
you won't find good olive oil in some village
so buy local fresh butter wrapped in newspaper to fry in
1 kilo for 5 UAH.... as well as a couple of liter bottles of cream already with a "layer" on top
from local dairy farmer by the side of the road - total bill for a 2 bags of dairy and garden produce was about $10
and this was dinner, dessert and snacks for me and my kids on the Black Sea!!!! prepared by Chef Boy R Dad!!

Mobers,
kisoks and stands with honey are EVERYWHERE in Moscow...
a lot of "flea market" type of stuff on Saturdays
prices are WAY cheaper outside the city....
it's crazy, but you can go 20 miles from downtown and be in some village
and that's where I got the good deal!!!!
"chorny med" costs more, but I didn't buy any...
don't they have this where you stay in Russia? I thought you're in Sochi?
or are you in "Kipper"??
they probably don't have much honey there, cuz the Oozo sap killed all the bees!!!



Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: BdHvA on September 17, 2019, 06:17:17 PM
haha, that would be the kinda boat my DAD would've bought, he had a 40 foot Chriscraft in the Chesapeake bay up until the late 80s that looked similar HIS was for deep sea ocean fishing in the Atlantic!!!

To compare a Hinckley to a ChrisCrap is akin to comparing a Lada to a Shelby Mustang. But it is obvious you do not get it and need others to maintain you POS.

So you understand anything you can not maintain even if it is a dinghy is a yacht. Enjoy, do not drive any faster than you can think and all will be well. Let some BN clean up your shit.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 17, 2019, 07:12:39 PM
To compare a Hinckley to a ChrisCrap is akin to comparing a Lada to a Shelby Mustang. But it is obvious you do not get it and need others to maintain you POS.

So you understand anything you can not maintain even if it is a dinghy is a yacht. Enjoy, do not drive any faster than you can think and all will be well. Let some BN clean up your shit.


Careful, there, buddy!

I had a Chris-Craft - 44 feet stinkpot.  Aft cabin.  Slept 6.   Loved that yacht.  Neighbor had a 48 Californian.   I liked mine better.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 17, 2019, 07:30:16 PM
do my own boat maintenance?
dewd, I don't even mow the grass on any of the properties I own, not even my own house!!!
I wouldn't even be the person who CLEANED the boat, I'd also hire someone for that to!!
do my own maintenance, LOL!!!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: JayH on September 18, 2019, 02:44:39 AM
Funny how the image of a poseur jumps out -- AGAIN ! ;D
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 18, 2019, 03:06:43 AM
do my own boat maintenance?
dewd, I don't even mow the grass on any of the properties I own, not even my own house!!!
I wouldn't even be the person who CLEANED the boat, I'd also hire someone for that to!!
do my own maintenance, LOL!!!

Maintenance on a boat is half the fun.

Every time I came into port I sprayed my boat down from bow to stern.  Would take like 20 minutes.  But you do that upkeep as a matter of course.     Then it would be time to fire up the grill hanging above the dingy runabout and put some nice plump pieces of chicken on to roast for a delicious dinner.  Happy days.  I always considered those tasks as part of boating.   And I loved every minute of it.  Favorite album to play on harbor cruises and out in the break water?   Madonna.   La Isla Bonita

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpzdgmqIHOQ

The yacht was originally my brother's.   But when he passed away I took it over.    Being able to tinker, work on the head, put in a hot water heater, those type of things still appeal to me.  Catalina is exactly 26 miles from Marina del Rey.   I'd take the kids and we'd get a mooring over at Emerald Bay or the Isthmus.  Those were weekends well spent.  They could water ski behind the dingy.  Not really fast, but they were young so enjoyed it the way it was.  Sometimes we'd fish for our own dinner.   By the time we got back to the mainland, everyone had a sunburn and a story to tell. 

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: JayH on September 18, 2019, 03:27:34 AM
Jone , I nearly said this earlier after Av posted,it is abundantly clear that the Krimster is NOT a boat person,and at a guess not a car person either! ----------  funnily enough I actually read the K. comments yesterday. --- while. I was  moving my 28.5 sailing catamaran and a little later blasting back 25 Kms to the Marina at 140 kmh on one of my jet skis.None of this is new to me ! ! ! Apologies to all but I could not help myself reading these wannabe big noters about not much at all of their delusional aspirations.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 18, 2019, 03:53:49 AM
Jone , I nearly said this earlier after Av posted,it is abundantly clear that the Krimster is NOT a boat person,and at a guess not a car person either! ----------  funnily enough I actually read the K. comments yesterday. --- while. I was  moving my 28.5 sailing catamaran and a little later blasting back 25 Kms to the Marina at 140 kmh on one of my jet skis.None of this is new to me ! ! ! Apologies to all but I could not help myself reading these wannabe big noters about not much at all of their delusional aspirations.

I don't think Krimster made a claim to BE a boat person - just that he had owned one in Crimea and recently experienced racing on the Moscow river and intended to buy a motor boat as a result ...

What model jetski do you have that does '140Km/h' ... ?

That is WAY in excess of production models I've ever experienced when borrowing a friends / hiring one ..

http://outdoorasaurus.com/jet-skiing/how-fast-can-jet-ski-go-top-speeds/



 (http://outdoorasaurus.com/jet-skiing/how-fast-can-jet-ski-go-top-speeds/)


Fast production 'jetski' top speed 110 Km/h

Hmmm

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: JayH on September 18, 2019, 04:19:04 AM
I was about to say it was a little exaggerated!It was probably closer to 120 kmh  :).   A btw going back a few years my stand up was good for a 100kmh ,and that did feel really fast!The late model SeaDoos with a few mods are incredibly quick!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 18, 2019, 05:28:41 AM
you SERIOUSLY "enjoy" swabbing the deck?
I don't!!!
probably because when I was a little kid, it's how I'd spend my summer weekends
cleaning my dad's boat!!

no! FREEDOM from that drudgery is what I want!

and to be clear I'm an electrical engineer who designs VLSI circuits
because of this, the primitive mechanics of internal combustion engines aren't very interesting to me...
and I don't do ANY of the maintenance on ANY of the various cars my family drives
not even clean the windshield

the boat is the membership key to a VERY exclusive club in Moscva
once I'm in this club, I can start selling to people in the club...
I'll even put a RussCoin logo on it!!!





Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 18, 2019, 05:52:18 AM
JayH,

It is big of you to fess up to your 'exaggeration’..

Why jump in on someone and prove you are no 'expert'' and unreliable, too?

You forgot to tell us what model(s) of jetski (s) you own...seeing the fastest is THIRTY percent slower..

My contention is that you have BS'd us ...a lot..in the past and that is why you have an issue with me...?)
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 18, 2019, 07:53:10 AM
back in the 1960s, CrissCrafts were built in a town called Salisbury, Maryland, a weird little town about 100 miles or so away from where I lived in Virginia..

my father bought his with the all-wood premium interior, which was about as close as possible for American carpenter’s to emulate a simple traditional light wood European yacht interior.

it was a twin screw with HUGE GM V8 engines that growled and rumbled like thunder when you started them...

flying bridge where I learned how to launch a kite from!

when my dad’s custom job was finished he was invited to the factory for approval (and final payment!) and my mom and my sister and I went with him...

wasn’t at all what I expected!

a boat factory is just nothing but a bunch of carpenters working on sections
and then they have overhead cranes moving the sections together for assembly...
and that’s it!

big disappointment!
even bigger when one of those V8s blew a seal and sprayed hot engine oil everywhere in the engine bay!

guess who got to clean that up?

jayH,
jetskis are a great way to get an upper body workout!
but when I’m on the water I want to relax and not have an exercise contest with the waves!

my boat is a party boat for “smoozing” clients...
BUT...
I’ll also use it to go camping overnight along the Moscva with my wife and her girlfriend...
and in August, we’ll lay back on the deck after smoking some Tungusta Thundefphuck and watch the Perseid meteors shoot across the inky night sky...


PS

you prudish dolts accusing me of sexualizing my children, listen up

NO!

Your dark ages prudish narrative is prudish garbage
I live in a higher cultural level...

a simple example...
last year, I spent a few weeks in Amsterdam with my daughters
we drove to this really nice beach about 40 min away
it was a TOPLESS beach...
I didn’t know this and neither did they as we parked our car...
but we found out once we got to the beach!
because almost every teenage girl and woman was topless
I think because it was just an especially beautiful sunny day...

once my daughters realized this, they begged me to to be allowed to take off their tops
“Proujouste Papa” they pled in unison...
horrosho....
so there they are...

it IS a bit awkward the first time you see your daughters naked breasts
so you look around, and see 30 other dads going through the same thing...
and after awhile, you get used to it, and it’s no big deal, no different from seeing their legs...
but THEY get to enjoy feeling free
and all these natural looking, nearly naked girls frolicking freely on the beach are just SO beautiful!
and I feel happy and content when I look at them the way I would looking at any other beautiful thing in nature...

but to you freakin' Victorian perverts, it’s SHOCKING!
see, I beg to differ with that assessment...
and much prefer my own...

but you have to take something innocent and beautiful
and dirty it with with your own dark thoughts...
and that's the very definition of 'perversion'
you freakin' perverts!




Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 18, 2019, 10:39:12 AM
Krimster,

I gotta say!  You certainly provide the entertainment!  One week you're telling us how great it is to go through the Moscow strip club scene.   Then the next week you're telling us that at a topless beach, where your daughters are, you feel

"happy and content when I look at them the way I would looking at any other beautiful thing in nature..."

My mirth is not that you went to a topless beach.   Or that your daughters took their tops off.    Nah.   Who cares?   I just laugh because you apparently don't see the dichotomy of your posts.

I need to tell you something, my friend.   The women at the strip clubs are not there because they want to express themselves in nature.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 18, 2019, 10:51:55 AM
Jone, I am not an expert about women in strip clubs, but I can list how thirty plus reacted to finding themselves on a topless beach....


Some were wives / girlfriends...some were other's wives girlfriends and the time period spans 5 decades and the reactions are so varied as to make any behavioural pattern impossible to predict.

My first wife and wife to be were possessed of ample appendages on slim bodies and have / had no compunction removing their tops...the former changed totally after childbirth...as she was very unlucky how nature treated her.


The middle wife was not so well blessed and there was little chance of them seeing the rays ...but she had an all over tan from a solarium all year round.


Some lasses would get there kit off on yachts... Some would never go topless, but lie on their bare fronts not to get white lines


I see NO dichotomy in Krimster's posts...

It is clear he knows how to illicit reaction)

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 18, 2019, 10:56:51 AM
 :ROFL:

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 18, 2019, 11:44:10 AM
the girls who work at strip clubs do so for ONE simple reason...
to make money...

of the ones I've talked with, they each enjoyed being an exhibitionist...
for these particular girls working in some menial job for 30,000 rubles per month was the lesser of their choices...

I know how to behave with women, ALL women, and I strive to make them as happy as I can
for entertainers you show your appreciation for their performance
and this enhances their performance...

Rasputin's had literally the most beautiful young woman I have EVER seen in my life dance naked in my lap...
gee, my bad, sorry that happened....

NO!!!!!  I'm not!!!!

and I showed her my appreciation - and she was QUITE HAPPY with that!!!


and if haters gonna hate, don't care!!!
cuz love, that's where it's at!




Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 18, 2019, 12:00:46 PM
the girls who work at strip clubs do so for ONE simple reason...
to make money...

of the ones I've talked with, they each enjoyed being an exhibitionist...
for these particular girls working in some menial job for 30,000 rubles was the lesser of their choices...

I know how to behave with women, ALL women, and I strive to make them as happy as I can
for entertainers you show your appreciation for their performance
and this enhances their performance...

Rasputin's had literally the most beautiful young woman I have EVER seen in my life dance naked in my lap...
gee, my bad, sorry that happened....

NO!!!!!  I'm not!!!!

and I showed her my appreciation - and she was QUITE HAPPY with that!!!


and if haters gonna hate, don't care!!!
cuz love, that's where it's at!

Who hates you for going to a strip club?   Not me!   I just couldn't help but notice the difference.   On one hand you are happy to make a financial transaction with a young lady to have her 'dance in your lap'.   On the other hand you appreciate your daughters in nature.

I have an acquaintance of mine who frequents strip clubs.  He goes there, takes them into the VIP lounge or whatever it is called, and pummels the hell out of 'em.   Doesn't use condoms either.   Of course, he is single.   Can't imagine what diseases he has caught.  But that is how he likes to live his life.  He says that all of the women that 'dance' for him really 'appreciate' him, as well.

Now I have no idea of what you do and don't do when you go in a strip club.   But I can tell you that in my eyes there is a dichotomy of your thoughts of your daughters and your rent paid on a lap dance stool.  I get it.  On the topless beach you are serene.  At the strip club you are out to have some fun.

As I have stated before, you certainly provide us with entertainment.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 18, 2019, 02:30:26 PM
chivo?

NYET!!!
my post-nup says no sex in strip clubs....
so I don't

I go with moy druzya...
group bonding kinda thing, and I'm designated driver
cuz you DON'T want drunk Russians driving!!!!

WTF else is there to do in Moscow that's not even worse than an elitny strip club!!!!
and where else can a bunch of middle aged men AND young me go together for fun in the evening?
sadly there are no Bingo Parlors in Moscow in case that was going to be your suggestion...







Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: JayH on September 18, 2019, 02:53:59 PM
JayH,

My contention is that you have BS'd us ...a lot..in the past and that is why you have an issue with me...?)

You can never get it right can you!

Again you attempt to allege my bs --  yet when I offered to put your money where your mouth is -- you go quiet.

A FWIW--  Moby has told blatant lies here all too often-- but takes exception when  a very specific date and time is thrown up to his actual non presence at those events --  his defence -- accuse others of BS and keep saying it .
It is done to divert attention from the BS he offers up.
So exactly where is the bs you accuse me of? :deadhorse:
If you say it --put your money where your mouth is --or SHUT UP ! :cluebat:
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 18, 2019, 02:57:19 PM
Plenty of brothels.   As a matter of interest, I lived in Mykolaiv for part of a summer.   One of my friends in town was a guy who still participates on the Ex-Pat forums.   He pointed out to me the largest brothel for the city.   I would have guessed it was a bar-b-que joint. 

Then, I don't know if you all remember, but we had a contributor on this forum who was promoting the gals in her brothel in Peter.   When I was there for a couple of weeks, I located the building this gal was in.   It was right next door to the major subway station for the area.   

I understand a couple of strip clubs in Moskva are actually fronts for brothels as well.   911 and FlightNight come to mind.  One of the patrons (moderators?) of the other forum was big on these places.   He even took one of our former members (from this forum) there and our guy came back with an eyeful.

Simply put, Russia is uptight about some things and very liberal minded about others.   For instance, Russia is very repressive of the gay community and the use of drugs.   But prostitution?  Meh!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: Gator on September 18, 2019, 05:08:12 PM
I was told the two best days of a boaters life is the day he buys the boat and the day he sells it.

Heard that before.  In a similar theme, and as per Jone's acquaintance,  my accountant years ago told me the Three F's Rule:

                      If it flies, floats or fu*ks, rent it. 
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: GQBlues on September 18, 2019, 06:18:12 PM
Billy’s post is true with me. 27’ Western Pleasure, V bottom with 65 HP Evinrude outboard engine. Mainly used it fishing off the Sta Monica bay, or take it out July 4th evenings with friends so we can watch the fireworks from the channel.

It was dry docked, so I hated having to wash the damned thing, and flush the engine, every single time I took it out before storing.

It’s lije owning a Jeep Wrangler. You dreamed of having one until you actually do. Though I fancied the Wrangler a bit more than the boat.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: BillyB on September 18, 2019, 08:32:32 PM
the girls who work at strip clubs do so for ONE simple reason...
to make money...


Wrong! They work at a strip club to help pay for their college education. They get better tips if men know they're good wholesome girls working for a better life than girls that blow their money on drugs.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: ML on September 18, 2019, 08:43:21 PM
Wrong! They work at a strip club to help pay for their college education. They get better tips if men know they're good wholesome girls working for a better life than girls that blow their money on drugs.

When I was in graduate school, a couple of the guys pointed out an undergrad gal who worked as a prostitute in another nearby city during summers.

I thought . . . more power to her.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 18, 2019, 09:12:15 PM
my kids each have a Hobie 16, which is a teeny little catamaran...
these are VERY popular on South Padre Island with all the kids their age...
winds are FIERCE there!!!! you will “haul ass” like a bat out of hell in these things...
water temperature and clarity quite good!!!
no big crowds as long as it’s not a holiday....
you can also easily rent bigger cats and the whole family can go out together
in Texas you can do things like have camp fires on the beach at night...

drive a little south and you can catch the tourist bus to Mexico, go shopping, and be back in a few hours...

coolest boat yet is the “Tesla Boat” autonomous, self driving boat in Amsterdam...
80 Euros for 1 hour canal ride...
just started last year when I was there, I hope they expand the routes to go into the bay north of Amsterdam straight from the canals instead of having to drive the long way around...





Russian “whore houses” called “doma prostitutka” are trashy places...
I can’t really recommend ya’ll visiting anything like this...
and don’t EAT or DRINK ANYTHING inside if you do go into one...

but you see friends you don’t need to go to prostitutes in Ukraine, because in Ukraine they come to you...

despite my ample reputation as a sex tourist, I haven’t had that many encounters with escorts in Ukraine, single digit number...

first was in 1997, Odessa, Hotel Bristol, Pent House Suite
was in my room, watching this amazing Russian music channel on cable
when the bell rings...

oh no! heart jumps! secret police!
but no, cute dark haired woman, mid 20s, big blue eyes
starts talking to me in this weird combination of English and Russian
“ya hachoo, I teach you Russian, and speak with English with you?”

call it jet lag, but I had no idea who she was or what she wanted...
so I motioned her towards me, and said “projouste...”
and she came in...
it took me another 10 seconds to realize who she was!
that’s how SLOW I was....

eventually, she got around to business and she put her arms around me as she gave me all the details...

when she removed her clothing, I was delightfully surprised...
normally, I focus on a woman’s pleasure as my priority...
but here was a woman focusing on mine...
and SHE KNEW WHAT THE HELL SHE WAS DOING!!!!

best $200 experience ever...
plus she trimmed my nails, because they scratched her...

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 18, 2019, 09:40:38 PM
Scratching is the best part ....
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 18, 2019, 10:11:22 PM
On an inland lake in Wisconsin, my best friend, growing up, has a Hobie-like 18 foot with a mainsail and jib.   We took it out after he bought it last year and sailed it for four hours and came back with huge sunburns but had the time of our lives.   On a broad reach, those boats will thump along at 35 mph.   The boat will actually hum as it goes through the water, vibrating with the sideboards and the rudder.   It begins to plane around 20 mph.

I have always been a monohull sailor.   But after spending a day with him and earlier when I rented a Hobie 16 in the Turks and Caicos, I can see the ratio of investment to enjoyment is an excellent ratio.   I just need to live or vacation near a small body of water to make it worthwhile.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 18, 2019, 11:22:15 PM
You can never get it right can you!

Your exaggeration has just proved, otherwise... !

Again you attempt to allege my bs -- 


I just did .. Mr "I was doing 140 Km/h" when  no production model can get within thirty percent of that figure ... and you STILL forgot to tell us what model(s) ..as I suspect it wasn't even the Kawaskaki ..So your exaggeration is FORTY percent or more

yet when I offered to put your money where your mouth is -- you go quiet.

'Sure'...  The Brexit thread continued apace and my stance ( no, no deal brexit )  had become the bookies choice.. ( Until the Finnish statement - this morning )

A FWIW--  Moby has told blatant lies here all too often-- but takes exception when  a very specific date and time is thrown up to his actual non presence at those events --  his defence -- accuse others of BS and keep saying it .
It is done to divert attention from the BS he offers up.
So exactly where is the bs you accuse me of? :deadhorse:
If you say it --put your money where your mouth is --or SHUT UP ! :cluebat:

JayH

WHAT 'lie' ? have I posted ?










Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 19, 2019, 01:35:35 AM
On an inland lake in Wisconsin, my best friend, growing up, has a Hobie-like 18 foot with a mainsail and jib.   We took it out after he bought it last year and sailed it for four hours and came back with huge sunburns but had the time of our lives.   On a broad reach, those boats will thump along at 35 mph.   

Jone,

Perhaps you might like to post this 35 MPH of yours on a Hobie 18 forum ?

http://www.hobie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12780&view=previous (http://www.hobie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12780&view=previous)

http://www.thebeachcats.com/forums/viewtopic/topic/12958/start/20 (http://www.thebeachcats.com/forums/viewtopic/topic/12958/start/20)

You'd generate some 'interesting' comments

I SERIOUSLY doubt even a modified Magnum  - let alone a std / SX would do much above 23 MPH - that's a FIFTY percent exaggeration 



You and JayH seem to have an issue with accuracy as to velocity


18-20 MPH is what regular sailors of std Hobie 18's get .. may be 20 MPH from an 18 Magnum

The average speed downwind in a SEVENTY-TWO foot FOILING  Americas Cup cat was 32-37 knots

Get REAL ! ;) 








Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: JayH on September 19, 2019, 02:02:37 AM
  Moby -- you are the complete and f....  idiot,
A few throw away exaggerations are quite different to you lying -- eg you stated you were on Crimea at the time of the Russian invasion -- complete and utter lie .You have done everything possible to avoid this being bought up again-- and you have NEVER offered one piece of confirmation-- and you have the temerity to stalk Maxx and troll him.

That is quite different to what you want to try and quote -- and of note -- you comment on AC at  32 knots highlights your ignorance ( again)  .The boats are making over 50 knots in top speed ( refer Sail GP currently)-- what you quote is an average speed around the whole course .

Yes-- Jone was exaggerating -- but your stupid pedantic posts only serves to highlight your ignorance ( again)

BTW --I an still waiting to see the slightest proof of you claim to being invited onto the British Sailing Team !  ( for those not following--it was another of Moby's stupid lies as he attempted to big note himself ! Nothing wrong with being  low level competitor-- which if you want to compare to golf-- Moby is about at 150 per 18 holes level with his sailing !

 :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat:

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 19, 2019, 04:32:17 AM
Jone,

Perhaps you might like to post this 35 MPH of yours on a Hobie 18 forum ?

http://www.hobie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12780&view=previous (http://www.hobie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12780&view=previous)

http://www.thebeachcats.com/forums/viewtopic/topic/12958/start/20 (http://www.thebeachcats.com/forums/viewtopic/topic/12958/start/20)

You'd generate some 'interesting' comments

I SERIOUSLY doubt even a modified Magnum  - let alone a std / SX would do much above 23 MPH - that's a FIFTY percent exaggeration 



You and JayH seem to have an issue with accuracy as to velocity


18-20 MPH is what regular sailors of std Hobie 18's get .. may be 20 MPH from an 18 Magnum

The average speed downwind in a SEVENTY-TWO foot FOILING  Americas Cup cat was 32-37 knots

Get REAL ! ;)

No.  I wasn't embellishing.  I simply made an error converting knots to MPH.   But while I may have made a mistake, it doesn't make me an asshole.   You have the corner on that.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 19, 2019, 04:47:11 AM
  Moby -- you are the complete and f....  idiot,
A few throw away exaggerations are quite different to you lying -- eg you stated you were on Crimea at the time of the Russian invasion -- complete and utter lie .

Tut, tut, JayH...busted AGAIN...

Pls demonstrate where I claimed that...I did state I had been on the peninsula before the Russian takeover..more recently than you...


You see? JayH fails, again..

You have done everything possible to avoid this being bought up again-- and you have NEVER offered one piece of confirmation-- and you have the temerity to stalk Maxx and troll him.

What a joke! I brought up your suggestion re my not being on Crimes was not true only yesterday...JayH the inattentive ..

As for Maxx, if you check..Maxx was the one who suggested something my partner had 'done' to him to ruin his chances....then once that was removed....and plenty of people wrote to me wanting me to 'spill' and I declined... Maxx kicked it off by blaming ME...

Yesterday he agreed not to mention me, my beloved or friends on his Georgia thread and I would not post on it... You seem keen to keep the pot stirred with nonsense.


That is quite different to what you want to try and quote -- and of note -- you comment on AC at  32 knots highlights your ignorance ( again)  .The boats are making over 50 knots in top speed ( refer Sail GP currently)-- what you quote is an average speed around the whole course .

JayH...you do realise that sailing records are measured in an average speed over a given distance and they sail courses to achieve such sepeds on their optimum angles?

I 'get it'...You and Jone pretended to be 'bigger boat expetts' than Krimster and got busted... You feel the need to deflect and create noise..


Yes-- Jone was exaggerating -- but your stupid pedantic posts only serves to highlight your ignorance ( again)


Jone exaggerated by an even greater margin than you, possible...but you are still too 'shy' to confirm the model jetski you claimed to have done 140km/h in..If it was a (say) Seedoo your exaggeration was maybe forty percent...


BTW --I an still waiting to see the slightest proof of you claim to being invited onto the British Sailing Team !  ( for those not following--it was another of Moby's stupid lies as he attempted to big note himself ! Nothing wrong with being  low level competitor-- which if you want to compare to golf-- Moby is about at 150 per 18 holes level with his sailing !

 :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat:

I was in the UK national squad based on my results.. qualifying from the  the SW area series.. I can still beat guys 4 times less in age in the modern equiv of this series..in a good blow.

The coach was from N.Ireland and I was the oldest.. I attended one weekend's course and resigned as I had my own biz and simply could not commit to their regime and I thought my fellow countryman's techniques were incorrect..

For the first half of the next season, I regularly beat most of his team, but from the summer on...I could not get  near one of 'em..

The RYA do not keep records of squads from nearly forty years ago... I cannot remember the name of the coach and Jim S...his boss, has been retired nearly a decade and a half. I asked hoping to PROVE you regularly talk out of your.....

I was the Club Champion ( losing out on a discard in '84) in 82, 83, 85,86..

Go on..suggest the other guys were 'crap'...  The guy who broke my run came 2nd in the Laser European under 18's ..

JayH... Calling people liars and demanding proof they are not fibbing is not how it works...

I keep telling you to contact the UA immigration for 2013 and ask them when I arrived and left with an RU national in late 2013 and early 2014

IF you have fwiends in high places, you will look an ever sillier ...

There you go...you get busted for fibbing and tried to tell us I 'lied'...you were not even truthful in your ASSertion that I avoided your previous 'proof'..My having raised your foolishness, yesterday, on my 'non' ( according you) Crimea visit..

The more 'noise' you make the more mistake you make.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 19, 2019, 04:54:49 AM
No.  I wasn't embellishing.  I simply made an error converting knots to MPH.   

Hmm, that line might have worked if you had said converting knots or Mph to Km/h...

But while I may have made a mistake, it doesn't make me an asshole.   You have the corner on that.

That is funny seeing you and JayH have posted as 'boating experts' and suggesting Krimster was a boating Wally and proving you BOTH are no better.

Just accept that you both (JayH / Jone) were clearly not demonstrably smarter and you got busted ..



Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 19, 2019, 05:02:46 AM
I clearly am not a 'boating expert' although I have raced sailboats since the age of ten.  But while I lay prostrate on the floor as being a non-expert sailor, my assessment of you still stands. 
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 19, 2019, 05:06:28 AM
I clearly am not a 'boating expert' although I have raced sailboats since the age of ten.  But while I lay prostrate on the floor as being a non-expert sailor, my assessment of you still stands.

 :ROFL:

Then you are even dafter then I thought ..given your 'Brexit' and now boating 'expertise' ..

Have you married and lived with a FSU woman ?





Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 19, 2019, 05:12:51 AM
Given that your popularity on this forum proceeds you where ever you go, you demonstrate your ability to get along with people constantly.    So we won't be having any future conversations.   It just isn't worth it.   I have no desire to get into a pissing contest with you, like you have done with so many other posters who have called you out. 

Instead, you can take your best shots and you will still have my above assessment of you.  Of the people on the forum, I honestly believe you are least liked and maintain the most confrontational relationships.   

So, you can put that one in your pipe and smoke it.   Sucks to be you.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 19, 2019, 05:30:48 AM
Given that your popularity on this forum proceeds you where ever you go, you demonstrate your ability to get along with people constantly.    So we won't be having any future conversations.   It just isn't worth it.   I have no desire to get into a pissing contest with you, like you have done with so many other posters who have called you out. 

Instead, you can take your best shots and you will still have my above assessment of you.  Of the people on the forum, I honestly believe you are least liked and maintain the most confrontational relationships.   

So, you can put that one in your pipe and smoke it.   Sucks to be you.

 :ROFL:

How EVER did I know my question would result in such a petulant response ..?


WHY do people who regularly post bollox think 'popularity' is important to me ...?

I DO care what those who are important in my life think,.,


Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 19, 2019, 05:36:12 AM
Krimster,

It has been inferred, by another poster, that I was calling you out for a lack of expertise in boating.   Inasmuch as this is the only thread where boating has been discussed, please read up and note that I had not made such a claim.  At no place on this thread did I make an inference that you are not a boating man or that you have not had fun experiences.

Creating said controversy is purely an act by another poster to try and create conflict where there is none.

My references to boating were the fun things that I have done and will continue to do as time permits.
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 19, 2019, 05:52:59 AM
Krimster,

It has been inferred, by another poster, that I was calling you out for a lack of expertise in boating.   Inasmuch as this is the only thread where boating has been discussed, please read up and note that I had not made such a claim.  At no place on this thread did I make an inference that you are not a boating man or that you have not had fun experiences.

Creating said controversy is purely an act by another poster to try and create conflict where there is none.

My references to boating were the fun things that I have done and will continue to do as time permits.


Dear Jone

I apologise .. you did not infer 'expertise' in boating ...

You did question Krimster's expertise in another field of which I have no expertise  - strip clubs and the women that work there -  v. topless daughters

There is no excuse for MY mistake in including you with JayH in this particular instance





Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 19, 2019, 08:32:57 AM
no worries Jones,
I don’t consider myself a boat “expert” at all...
like most here, I have a limited amount of experience on a few kinds of boats...

other than being on the water with my wife and daughters,
the most fun I ever had on a boat was in an 18 foot skiff with my best friend when we were teens...

his dad was always nice enuff to hook the trailer up to their station wagon and tow us to a park next to the airport and we’d take off into the potomac from there!

I don’t remember the HP of the outboard, pretty sure under 25 HP...
one red gas tank was enuff for one way, so we bought $1.25 worth of gas at the gas station for the way back...

cooler full of... cokes!!! and not beer!!! kids!!!!
Air rifles, crab poles, baskets, inner tubes for catching bluefin crabs

it took over 2 hours at 1/2 throttle to get to the Bay but we did it!!!
AND got back before dark!!!!

AMERICA!!!!

I have total freakin expertise on being one of the MANY fathers on a Dutch beach having to endure walking with their topless teenage daughters and WHO GOT OVER IT...
so it’s no big deal to them or me...
public nudity on the beaches in europe is quite common...
you prudes should be able to handle this without all the hysteria...




Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: ML on September 19, 2019, 11:09:32 AM

I have total freakin expertise on being one of the MANY fathers on a Dutch beach having to endure walking with their topless teenage daughters and WHO GOT OVER IT...
so it’s no big deal to them or me...
public nudity on the beaches in europe is quite common...
you prudes should be able to handle this without all the hysteria...

It is a TERRIBLE idea, from standpoint of men, when females expose their breasts anywhere and anytime except during romance with their man.

Has nothing to do with idea of prudes.

Really . . . anyone doesn't understand this ????
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: jone on September 19, 2019, 11:19:54 AM
Yeah,

I love the Potomac.   And even more Chesapeake.  I had a friend who had a sailing yacht over at Annapolis and we'd make the dash over to Tilghman Island and sail around in the Choptank.  There were no moorings, so we'd sail up one of the estuaries and either tie it off to an overhanging tree or throw out an anchor.   Did that about three times over the years with him.   Then he sold the yacht and I never heard from him again. 

But the most fun was on the Rappahannok.  We had friends that had a place right on the water and we'd stay in cabins there and fish and then buy crab at the local market.   I still remember that sweet meet that was so damnably hard to get to.   They had small sail boats to sail on the river.   I found my first horseshoe crab there.  Crazy looking thing, scared the hell out of me before they told me what it was.

(http://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLRv28bzNK1WgufEsgQnQiYdbik-Oli-C7543Rx_Rtr_8V28E5_w)

My kids know that if ever there comes a time where I could get an extra vacation home, it would be somewhere in that area.   Preferably one without the mosquitoes. 
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 19, 2019, 11:35:53 AM
It is a idea, from standpoint of men, when females expose their breasts anywhere and anytime except during romance with their man.

Has nothing to do with idea of prudes.

Really . . . anyone doesn't understand this ????

NO...

I never tire of seeing SC's assets.. covered or uncovered .. I guess each to his own

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: Gator on September 19, 2019, 01:15:00 PM

Then you are even dafter then I thought ..given your 'Brexit' ..... 'expertise' 


Your opinion about Jone's Brexit expertise likely derives from the fact that he has not lived for decades in the UK as you have done.

Now you know how Americans feel about you when you comment on American politics.   
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: Gator on September 19, 2019, 01:17:08 PM

Hmm, that line might have worked if you had said converting knots or Mph to Km/h...


What is a Km? 
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 19, 2019, 01:54:33 PM
Your opinion about Jone's Brexit expertise likely derives from the fact that he has not lived for decades in the UK as you have done.

Nope..


It is purely based on his Trench-like 'grasp' of the circumstances .. it's not like Jone doesn't get offered and chance to learn by his mistakes ..


Now you know how Americans feel about you when you comment on American politics.   

Again, you are basing your assertion on an incorrect assumption ..

The UK has a 'populist' misogynistic, leader for whom 'facts' are an inconvenience, too.   
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: GQBlues on September 19, 2019, 03:35:27 PM
There you, what was an otherwise 'benign', or FWIW, a boring thread, like most of all the other silly threads in this board these days; always end up with old farts virtually clawing one another.


The Rise of the 12 odd couples!
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: krimster2 on September 19, 2019, 04:14:56 PM
yeah, I remember the Choptank over by Easton, but the Wye River had better crabbing at low tide!!!

back in the day, you’d even see oysterman working their 75 lb oyster tongs or even oyster dredgers out in the Bay....
probably not now though....
though Potomac looks cleaner than it used to...

the street I grew up on has hardly changed
only change is people prefer yellow to white for exterior house paint now


ML, in regards to your objection...
is the awful public menace of bare breasts
the prospect that it becomes normal...
instead of “titillating”?



 

Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 20, 2019, 11:56:24 AM
There you, what was an otherwise 'benign', or FWIW, a boring thread, like most of all the other silly threads in this board these days; always end up with old farts virtually clawing one another.


The Rise of the 12 odd couples!

No irony at all from the guy put on a leash ...
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: GQBlues on September 20, 2019, 02:19:44 PM
No irony at all from the guy put on a leash ...
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 20, 2019, 09:25:01 PM
GQB,

To be clear, I did not exclude myself from the 'old farts' nor the 'crime'..


It just seems you may not be enlightened enough to realise you are part of the club....or may be it's a denial issue? ...
Title: Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
Post by: msmob on September 21, 2019, 01:32:25 PM
 
BTW --I an still waiting to see the slightest proof of you claim to being invited onto the British Sailing Team !  ( for those not following--it was another of Moby's stupid lies as he attempted to big note himself ! Nothing wrong with being  low level competitor-- which if you want to compare to golf-- Moby is about at 150 per 18 holes level with his sailing !

 :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat: :cluebat:

Whilst the RYA do not keep such records to prove you a fibber, I was at the sailing club, today..

I won the club championship for six years out of seven and lost the 84 one on a discard system because I was also doing the open circuit.

So, if you are still daft enough to believe that my club has 'average sailors' ..do post to that effect and I will list the national and European winners from the club..many who I beat and was the target to beat as I hit my thirties ...


If you are daft enough to doubt this is the club champ board you should know that in 85/ 6/ 7 I won every trophy possible and needed a wheel barrow to collect my trophies..at the Club Dinner Dance...in fact they changed the rules for prize giving as I was up to collect first place 20 plus times..

'Sorry' JayH.... You really are daft to doubt what I kept telling you.

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