Operation White Panther

[Patagonie]

Yep, if you are selective it takes time.
From the very very beginning and the moment we were engaged with ex wifey, more than two years and half. 
ANd you Msb?

[msmob]

Yep, if you are selective it takes time.
From the very very beginning and the moment we were engaged with ex wifey, more than two years and half. 
ANd you Msb?

I lived with my first wife 7 months before we got married

Second: we lived 3 months together over a six month period

third: over five years

[Patagonie]

I lived with my first wife 7 months before we got married

Second: we lived 3 months together over a six month period

third: over five years

 
That was solid, MSB, many westerners don't have such a chance.

[Patagonie]

So, with the last informations I got from ukrainians sources I have decided to go to Ukraine for few days. 
As we had already one miss with lady of Kiev because I was planning a travel that had never happened, I decided to do it the slavic way, I bought the ticket and sent to her.
 
Action rather than words' masturbation     
And couldn't be more pleased by how she reacted and expressed her surprise.
This is where you see how people are sincere and like you.
Cannot complain.
 
And additionnaly she is incredibly beautiful, don't know how she performs such mystery, shooting simply with her phone in adverse conditions.   
We also have a lot of fun with a  messages, but not gonna to detail the content 

[Patagonie]

The madness continues. 
 
I move to Ukraine meeting lady 1
Lady 2 is in Ukraine but wants me to move in Spain meanwhile
Lady 3 wants to move in the city where I will meet lady 1 
But I never said anything about me to be there.       
 
The final bouquet would be : my ex-wife moving to Ukraine like last time during the same trip   

[msmob]

Can Ukrainians arrive in Schenghen nations without residency under COVID-19?

[Patagonie]

The answer is a clear NO. 
 
Except :
"Ukraine does not meet the criteria defined by the EU for the state to be included in the list of epidemiologically safe countries (green list) the citizens of which can cross the border. But there are eight categories of citizens who are allowed to enter the territory of the European Union despite the ban," Kuleba said during an online briefing on July 7, according to an Ukrinform correspondent.

In particular, these categories include healthcare workers, medical researchers; people who care for the elderly and those who require urgent medical care; border guards; carriers of goods and other representatives of transport services, taking into account the need; diplomats, police officers on duty, civil defense services and teams, representatives of international organizations and international military contingents; persons in transit; persons traveling for non-tourist purposes or other business matters or who have another economic interest; persons traveling for study or other urgent personal reasons.

 

Source http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3058399-eight-categories-of-ukrainian-citizens-allowed-to-enter-eu-kuleba.html

[Patagonie]

DDudes,

Have fun,
Enjoy.
you have only ONE life.
And unfortunately you never know how much credits have been given to you. Only God knows it. 
 

[msmob]

The answer is a clear NO. 
 

Thanks for explaining the lengthy criteria:)

I think the article must surely have missed if you are resident with a EU citizen ?

[Patagonie]

Thanks for explaining the lengthy criteria:)
 
I think the article must surely have missed if you are resident with a EU citizen ?

If you are a spouse or if you are in a fiancee visa you can enter in Schengen Space. 
Also if you have a   1 year visa or long term visa (10 years if I don't make a mistake). 
 
For the coronavirus you must check every 3 days in average. I think each country update every week basically and all change depending other countries. 
So that quite a mess. 
 
Not speaking about a possible quarantine that can happen anytime, depending of each country.  So stay tuned and if a country where you are is about to self isolated my advice is to rush to buy a ticket in the minute and leave asap. 
 
Don't wait the day before the border closes.
You damned don't know what could happen.

[Patagonie]

So some news about Ukraine :
Red zone : PCR test and insurance
Green zone : insurance
 
If you come FROM such zone. 
Coming from a red zone :
Nothing had been asked to me,
BUT when I asked to the customs what to do for the return they told me to do a test.
And I am also normally under the quarantine except if I do a test.
So go for the test.
 
The test in Boryspol :
I decided to close the deal by making a test, just before you retrieve your luggage. So nothing to worry when I will be back in one week.
They send you the answer by email in FEW hours (my gush, it needs at least 24 hours, sometimes more in my country)
THe cost 2000 grv, barely 55 bucks, quite a lot  but prices in the city comes 40 bucks to 75 bucksSo not so expansive in the airport.

[Patagonie]

The weather is warm, this what I call the indian summer. 
But after the 10th november expect to wear warm clothes.

[msmob]

If you are a spouse or if you are in a fiancee visa you can enter in Schengen Space. 
Also if you have a   1 year visa or long term visa (10 years if I don't make a mistake). 

You 'do' !

SC is most defo my spouse and the French are NOT issuing Schengens of greater than 3 months to Russians ( other than Student Visas)   SC's most clearly says family member of EU ( 'UE'!) citizen.

At any other time she would be entitled to at least a year and possibly longer ..

Unless a Russian can prove that family member is working / resident in FR - which I will be .. no way will they even get a visa and if they HAVE one, already  ..wouldn't be allowed to fly / board the plane  TO FR ... unless they can prove same ((

We are waiting for your President to announce what his plans are ( Wednesday evening 13th Oct)  for high risk areas such as Paris and the region I am working in ( red zones ) to see if it is even work her and I going to FR, at all ((


Thanks for the tip

[Patagonie]

You 'do' !

SC is most defo my spouse and the French are NOT issuing Schengens of greater than 3 months to Russians ( other than Student Visas)   SC's most clearly says family member of EU ( 'UE'!) citizen.

At any other time she would be entitled to at least a year and possibly longer ..

Unless a Russian can prove that family member is working / resident in FR - which I will be .. no way will they even get a visa and if they HAVE one, already  ..wouldn't be allowed to fly / board the plane  TO FR ... unless they can prove same ((

We are waiting for your President to announce what his plans are ( Wednesday evening 13th Oct)  for high risk areas such as Paris and the region I am working in ( red zones ) to see if it is even work her and I going to FR, at all ((


Thanks for the tip

It  should be not so bad for you it's only a curfew. Between 21H00 and 6H00.
Sex if forbiden also during this time to lower the issue.

[Patagonie]

Coronavirus consequences :
 
euro : 33.22 griven  bought 
$ : more than 28 griven  bought
 
10% depreciation for the ukrainian money in one year. Unfortunately bad for ukrainian people.Cheaper for strangers.

[msmob]

Sex if forbiden also during this time to lower the issue.

Or stay with a friend to beat the curfew and see how things develop !

We were offered a Campervan ( 'RV') swap.. Friends in Normandy would use my car ... in case we fell foul of the curfews ..

Decided to cancel the visa appointment in Paris and changed our plans .. ((

SC just called to say that the RU city she booked at to have biometrics ( Rostov) is locking down... but see no news of that ?

[Patagonie]

Or stay with a friend to beat the curfew and see how things develop !

We were offered a Campervan ( 'RV') swap.. Friends in Normandy would use my car ... in case we fell foul of the curfews ..

Decided to cancel the visa appointment in Paris and changed our plans .. ((

SC just called to say that the RU city she booked at to have biometrics ( Rostov) is locking down... but see no news of that ?

Yep, but you have to find the female friend who wants to develop such experience lol!Wait the end of the year to plan to go to France...   

Rostov? Don't know anything about this city.

[msmob]

SW Russia..on the River Don....the Don in Donbas(s)

Should have been in Paris, today(

[Patagonie]

Rostov Don,
Germans got here during the WW2 if I have good memories. 
Correct MSB?

[Patagonie]

So the way back finally was easiest than the outward journey
   
Nobody asked me anything. No document, no PCR test. 
Nothing NICHIVO.
No quarantine. 
Not even a question during the boarding or at the customs. 
 
Now the problem is if you are seek, like you have some fever and it has nothing to do with the coronavirus.So you are in trouble. And you cannot board the plane.
 
For your attention : I signed two insurances. An european one from the air company. And the one asked by the ukrainian state. The last one will give you no money, I would not rely on them if you are in trouble. 

[msmob]

Rostov Don,
Germans got here during the WW2 if I have good memories. 
Correct MSB?

Yup, and beyond.. They got down  past Novorossiysk  on the Black Sea ( Hero City )  and got stopped before the mountains ..
Hitler was pushing for the Azeri oil fields

[Patagonie]

Nice map. 

[Patagonie]

Two weeks ago a funny thing happened.
   
My mobile phone is having his personal life and personal soul. 
This is not the first time that he tries to mess up my dating life    
 I think that he gets jealous to spend most of the day into a pocket because the truth is that I muzzle him most of the time.     
 
So he took his revenge by taking a profil of a ukrainian woman and sent it to an other woman who is mistress.
then he sent me this :
 
Something that reveals he is a prankster I suppose.
 
 
I got a very quick message:
WHo is she?   
Is it your new wife?
Should I contact her? 
 
The last one should I contact her" started to make me angry   
I answered:
And your husband should I contact him?
You have to calm down and quickly.   
 
And
She suddenly became very calm, very compliant and very sweet.     
After I explained to her that was just a mistake done by my prankster phone ( ).   
 
Take your red pill every day...

[Patagonie]

So I finally dropped lady of Kiev dudes. 
   
You know dating and knowing people is an iterative process, additionnaly because you are dating asynchronously due to the long-distance relationship.
 
Therefore I witnessed several incidents. 
In the beginning you only record it. After a while you start to exploit it, and in the end, you draw some conclusions.
And if the conclusions are too much hurting your elementary principles in human being and gender dynamics to keep a relationship healthy, you have to take some action. 
I had to come back to the DSM 4, now updated to the fifth version, to see things clearly. This grid allows you to easily lecture the psychological disorders that some profiles can show. 
It doesn't happen in a lot of women, especially with FSU women for what I have found out. 
But in the end, I learnt it the hard way, any individual  that belittles his partner and shows some aggressiveness not justified is not a long term material partnership. 
A female friend asked me, so you are sad now.
I looked at her and it makes me smile.
 Why should you be sad when in fact you have just avoided something abusive or toxic for you?

[ML]

Why should you be sad when in fact you have just avoided something abusive or toxic for you?

OK, so was she using the whip so hard that it was cutting your skin (abusive) ?

Or, did you finally realize she was putting small amounts of arsenic into your tea/coffee (toxic) ?