Russian Women Discussion
RWD Discussion Groups => Trip Reports => Topic started by: lmshima57 on October 06, 2019, 05:00:52 AM
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I met a young girl from Khelmnitsky when she came to the U. S. for a summer
work study program a few years ago. I met her again when I came to Ukraine
and visited Lviv. I asked her if there was anything that I could send her and
she wanted Reese's peanut butter cups (apparently they are not available in
Ukraine) and also asked for some perfume. I purchased these items, but I
went to mail them and was told that the perfume cannot be mailed because it
is flammable. I picked up some small containers of the perfume and brought
them on this trip. When I was able to contact her, she told me that she was
in the Carpathians on vacation and would not be able to meet me in Kiev. She
advised me to mail them via нова поста. I was told this is a private delivery
system in Ukraine. The package is sent to a branch near the recipient and
they call them. When the girl gave me the address information, I was surprised
it did not have the usual building number and postal code. They only needed
to know the city, branch number, and the phone number of the recipient.
Delivery in 2 days for less than 3 dollars. I was going to have someone at the
hotel or my interpreter take care of this for me, but I decided to see if I could
do this simple task on my own. I learned how to say I want to mail this
package and no insurance. The closest нова поста branch was on the next
street over from the hotel (they have a site that shows the location on a map),
so I went there with my package. I told her that I wanted to mail this package
with no insurance. Things went rapidly downhill from there. I thought that I
would have to have someone take care of this for me. The lady must have recognized my deer in the headlights look and fortunately she spoke English.
She wanted to know what was in the package and the value. Mission
accomplished, but it seemed like a Pyrrhic victory. As I was writing this, my
friend messaged me that she had received the package in 2 days. When I did
mail the Reese's peanut butter cups through the regular mail, they did not
leave a notice and when she went to inquire 2 weeks after it had arrived, they charged her a small fine. With all the privatizations going on in Ukraine, I wonder how the regular post office will fare.
I went to Pushka for lunch to have some borsch which is on my diet. It
was maybe a 10 minute walk from the hotel. I ordered the borsch and some
grilled vegetables. I grade borsch on whether it is better than mine. I use a
recipe from Veselka, a Ukrainian restaurant in New York. The man who started
the restaurant was from Odessa. I thought that the borsch was not very good,
but there was something black in it that was not familiar to me. I remembered
that a Russian restaurant owner in Las Vegas told me that often any leftovers
are put in the borsch. I thought it might be eggplant or mushroom, but it
turned out to be a smoked pear. It did not taste like a pear and I did not care
for it. The grilled zucchini, carrots, eggplant, and tomato were good. I did not
eat the grilled yellow pepper or the onions.
I wanted to play poker, but there were thunderstorms. There were umbrellas
in the the hotel lobby presumably for guest use, but I waited for the rain to
diminish. I go to the Архитектура Бекетова metro station near the nearby McDonald's and go to Держпром which is just behind the Kharkiv Palace. The
Full House Poker Club is across the street. I go into the club and say that I
would like to play poker. Not much English is spoken here. I have played here
before and the people there were very helpful. I get 2500 grivna in chips and
sit down at a table of no limit hold'em. I do not understand what the dealer is
saying to me, but the player next to me takes 500 grivna from my stack and
puts it on the table. Apparently at this table you can only start with 500 grivna. Things start very well, but over time things are going downhill. My luck starts
to turn and I actually am up a few hundred grivna. I intended to leave at
midnight, but wind up playing to 0300. I always feel badly leaving after a big
win, so I always give people a chance to win their money back. This is low
stakes, I do not mind losing my whole stack. The game breaks up at 0300 and
I am down maybe 200 grivna, but I probably spent that much on drinks. I
have a great evening essentially for free. I really enjoy playing at this club.
The players are very friendly and when I would have a bad beat the winner
would offer his hand. When I would make a good play, the other players would
be congratulatory. They actually served borsch at the club, but I did not get to
try it.
I started playing chess when I was young, but I am out of practice. I
remembered seeing people playing in the metro station, but I could not
remember which station. I found out that the metro station is Держпром.
There are tables with chess boards part of the table. I am not sure how the
chess players feel about foreigners.
There is a lot of construction going on in Kharkiv. I buy a lot of Kievsky tort
and Шоколадный tort (chocolate cake called Празький) from the Roshen
store at Ave Plaza. There are so many things that I would like to have that
are not on my diet. I am pretty sure that I could live in Kharkiv or Odessa
and not feel deprived. As expected, there are many more signs in Ukrainian
instead of Russian. My greatest pleasure is practicing my Russian. Over the
years, it seems that more people under what I am saying with less difficulty.
I thought that I needed to spend three months in Ukraine to really become
proficient. I would go to St. Petersburg if it was not such a pain to get the visa.
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Hello :welcome:
How is it a pain to get a RU visa ?
If you are going to use the UA translit for Kharkiv, why spell Odesa and Kyiv the Russian way ( Odessa / Kiev ) ?
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lmshima57, what's your goal this trip? Are you looking for a life partner or just enjoy going to Ukraine?
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Crazy, i just left that city a week ago, i had an ex (my tattoo master) , terrible ity for a foreigner to get around (No Uklon,uber etc)
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lmshima57, what's your goal this trip? Are you looking for a life partner or just enjoy going to Ukraine?
I thought the same. Not sure what the connection of the girl, poker and borsch...or maybe its just a travel journal. Seem awfully laborious at this time for a casual trip. It also could be just me.
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I met a young girl from Khelmnitsky when she came to the U. S. for a summer
work study program a few years ago. I met her again when I came to Ukraine
and visited Lviv. I asked her if there was anything that I could send her and
she wanted Reese's peanut butter cups (apparently they are not available in
Ukraine) and also asked for some perfume. I purchased these items, but I
went to mail them and was told that the perfume cannot be mailed because it
is flammable. I picked up some small containers of the perfume and brought
them on this trip. When I was able to contact her, she told me that she was
in the Carpathians on vacation and would not be able to meet me in Kiev. She
advised me to mail them via нова поста. I was told this is a private delivery
system in Ukraine. The package is sent to a branch near the recipient and
they call them. When the girl gave me the address information, I was surprised
it did not have the usual building number and postal code. They only needed
to know the city, branch number, and the phone number of the recipient.
Delivery in 2 days for less than 3 dollars. I was going to have someone at the
hotel or my interpreter take care of this for me, but I decided to see if I could
do this simple task on my own. I learned how to say I want to mail this
package and no insurance. The closest нова поста branch was on the next
street over from the hotel (they have a site that shows the location on a map),
so I went there with my package. I told her that I wanted to mail this package
with no insurance. Things went rapidly downhill from there. I thought that I
would have to have someone take care of this for me. The lady must have recognized my deer in the headlights look and fortunately she spoke English.
She wanted to know what was in the package and the value. Mission
accomplished, but it seemed like a Pyrrhic victory. As I was writing this, my
friend messaged me that she had received the package in 2 days. When I did
mail the Reese's peanut butter cups through the regular mail, they did not
leave a notice and when she went to inquire 2 weeks after it had arrived, they charged her a small fine. With all the privatizations going on in Ukraine, I wonder how the regular post office will fare.
I went to Pushka for lunch to have some borsch which is on my diet. It
was maybe a 10 minute walk from the hotel. I ordered the borsch and some
grilled vegetables. I grade borsch on whether it is better than mine. I use a
recipe from Veselka, a Ukrainian restaurant in New York. The man who started
the restaurant was from Odessa. I thought that the borsch was not very good,
but there was something black in it that was not familiar to me. I remembered
that a Russian restaurant owner in Las Vegas told me that often any leftovers
are put in the borsch. I thought it might be eggplant or mushroom, but it
turned out to be a smoked pear. It did not taste like a pear and I did not care
for it. The grilled zucchini, carrots, eggplant, and tomato were good. I did not
eat the grilled yellow pepper or the onions.
I wanted to play poker, but there were thunderstorms. There were umbrellas
in the the hotel lobby presumably for guest use, but I waited for the rain to
diminish. I go to the Архитектура Бекетова metro station near the nearby McDonald's and go to Держпром which is just behind the Kharkiv Palace. The
Full House Poker Club is across the street. I go into the club and say that I
would like to play poker. Not much English is spoken here. I have played here
before and the people there were very helpful. I get 2500 grivna in chips and
sit down at a table of no limit hold'em. I do not understand what the dealer is
saying to me, but the player next to me takes 500 grivna from my stack and
puts it on the table. Apparently at this table you can only start with 500 grivna. Things start very well, but over time things are going downhill. My luck starts
to turn and I actually am up a few hundred grivna. I intended to leave at
midnight, but wind up playing to 0300. I always feel badly leaving after a big
win, so I always give people a chance to win their money back. This is low
stakes, I do not mind losing my whole stack. The game breaks up at 0300 and
I am down maybe 200 grivna, but I probably spent that much on drinks. I
have a great evening essentially for free. I really enjoy playing at this club.
The players are very friendly and when I would have a bad beat the winner
would offer his hand. When I would make a good play, the other players would
be congratulatory. They actually served borsch at the club, but I did not get to
try it.
I started playing chess when I was young, but I am out of practice. I
remembered seeing people playing in the metro station, but I could not
remember which station. I found out that the metro station is Держпром.
There are tables with chess boards part of the table. I am not sure how the
chess players feel about foreigners.
There is a lot of construction going on in Kharkiv. I buy a lot of Kievsky tort
and Шоколадный tort (chocolate cake called Празький) from the Roshen
store at Ave Plaza. There are so many things that I would like to have that
are not on my diet. I am pretty sure that I could live in Kharkiv or Odessa
and not feel deprived. As expected, there are many more signs in Ukrainian
instead of Russian. My greatest pleasure is practicing my Russian. Over the
years, it seems that more people under what I am saying with less difficulty.
I thought that I needed to spend three months in Ukraine to really become
proficient. I would go to St. Petersburg if it was not such a pain to get the visa.
Great story thanks for sharing.
Get that Visa and go to St. Petersburg.
If you don't mind losing some money playing Poker you shouldn't mind paying for a Visa.
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I prefer ukraine, simply because ease of staying here, as opposed to Russia, visa for only a month, doesn't do it for me. That being said, i prefer Russia for dating rather than Ukraine, as Ukraine is pretty run down.
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:ROFL:
What parts of Russia have you been to to suggest UA is 'less run down' ?
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:ROFL:
What parts of Russia have you been to to suggest UA is 'less run down' ?
UA for me is more rundown, i am a digital nomad, i spend my time jumping between FSU and North America. It is my opinion, i am still in the dating game, unlike most who repeat conquests they had 20 years back, these days young women have Iphones, need more than just money to get by ;)
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I prefer ukraine, simply because ease of staying here, as opposed to Russia, visa for only a month, doesn't do it for me. That being said, i prefer Russia for dating rather than Ukraine, as Ukraine is pretty run down.
Japtaps, are you and the OP (original poster) the same poster? The OP's profile showed being married to a Ukrainian woman. Does this mean you've been since divorced and is currently dipping in the barrel again?
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Japtaps, are you and the OP (original poster) the same poster? The OP's profile showed being married to a Ukrainian woman. Does this mean you've been since divorced and is currently dipping in the barrel again?
No, I simply was in that city for 5 weeks , my ex girlfriend did my tattoos, I left a week ago. Nothing much to add regarding that , I am still in Ukraine, admin and mods can verify, I been standing at the sidelines of this forum for number of years , same people reciting old stories, the game has changed
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No, I simply was in that city for 5 weeks , my ex girlfriend did my tattoos, I left a week ago. Nothing much to add regarding that , I am still in Ukraine, admin and mods can verify, I been standing at the sidelines of this forum for number of years , same people reciting old stories, the game has changed
How do you see things are over there now?
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I prefer ukraine, simply because ease of staying here, as opposed to Russia, visa for only a month, doesn't do it for me. That being said, i prefer Russia for dating rather than Ukraine, as Ukraine is pretty run down.
Someone seems a walking talking contradiction.
Do tell, how do you date in Russia without actually going there?
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UA for me is more rundown, i am a digital nomad, i spend my time jumping between FSU and North America. It is my opinion, i am still in the dating game, unlike most who repeat conquests they had 20 years back, these days young women have Iphones, need more than just money to get by ;)
Hi, I thought your original for suggested RU was more run down... there are many places where it is, but *I* meant overall.
Thanks for explaining.
Flesh blood, new tales to tell ...GREAT
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Sorry, i juggle multiple things so i mistype, Confederate, regarding what you said, i been to Russia many times, was engaged to someone in moscow last year, and was single start of this year when me and my fiancé parted, it was the toughest thing to happen to me and her. I am very much in FSU , and jump between locations.
Trench, my experiences are different from others. i am muscular, with tattoos (A lot of tattoos), and can travel, i attract different type of women , than some other men. If i had anyone ask me for advice, it would be simply to focus on making more money, get in shape, and that is pretty much. Don't overcomplicate things, it is relatively simple. Don't bother with learning the Russian language , poetry etc, use that time to invest in the other areas i stated, go with some flowers on the first date, and you are pretty much there.
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Trench, my experiences are different from others. i am muscular, with tattoos (A lot of tattoos), and can travel, i attract different type of women , than some other men. If i had anyone ask me for advice, it would be simply to focus on making more money, get in shape, and that is pretty much. Don't overcomplicate things, it is relatively simple. Don't bother with learning the Russian language , poetry etc, use that time to invest in the other areas i stated, go with some flowers on the first date, and you are pretty much there.
That's pretty good advice, I recently found out from the chaos on here that it takes doing gym about three times a week for about four hours at a time if not more as an absolute minimum in order to get musclar. Unfortunately, I can only manage about an hour maybe two each week at present which after doing it for a good 18 months doesn't really do that much. Hopefully I'll have more time on my hands for it in the future. Money is probably the easier one to achieve. I know money talks out there and money is seen as power so making a good show of things probably helps.
In the past I have kind of over complicated things but over time have understood the place better I think. As you say to avoid complicating it all focusing on those two things are probably a good idea. I like learning the language and it holds some advantage but I think if a girl admires a guy then it's not really needed.
A real pain for me not being able to get over there at the moment. Apart from the flight ban the virus situation seems to be getting real bad out there:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-ukraine-cases-update-lockdown-covid-infections-b878673.html%3famp
Wouldn't like to end up getting the virus over there I think.
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Sorry, i juggle multiple things so i mistype, Confederate, regarding what you said, i been to Russia many times, was engaged to someone in moscow last year, and was single start of this year when me and my fiancé parted, it was the toughest thing to happen to me and her. I am very much in FSU , and jump between locations.
Trench, my experiences are different from others. i am muscular, with tattoos (A lot of tattoos), and can travel, i attract different type of women , than some other men. If i had anyone ask me for advice, it would be simply to focus on making more money, get in shape, and that is pretty much. Don't overcomplicate things, it is relatively simple. Don't bother with learning the Russian language , poetry etc, use that time to invest in the other areas i stated, go with some flowers on the first date, and you are pretty much there.
Okay now it all makes sense!
Good luck to you and welcome to the forum.
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:ROFL:
What parts of Russia have you been to to suggest UA is 'less run down' ?
You got it bass-ackwards. I think Russia has spent more on its big cities, but the countries are equally run down, in different ways.
This post was composed without the aid of google.
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When I said run down , I was talking about the dating culture , I prefer it in Russia, less scam attempts , more genuine people, you can find good and bad anywhere , it was a general statement
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That's pretty good advice, I recently found out from the chaos on here that it takes doing gym about three times a week for about four hours at a time if not more as an absolute minimum in order to get musclar. Unfortunately, I can only manage about an hour maybe two each week at present which after doing it for a good 18 months doesn't really do that much. Hopefully I'll have more time on my hands for it in the future. Money is probably the easier one to achieve. I know money talks out there and money is seen as power so making a good show of things probably helps.
In the past I have kind of over complicated things but over time have understood the place better I think. As you say to avoid complicating it all focusing on those two things are probably a good idea. I like learning the language and it holds some advantage but I think if a girl admires a guy then it's not really needed.
A real pain for me not being able to get over there at the moment. Apart from the flight ban the virus situation seems to be getting real bad out there:
http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-ukraine-cases-update-lockdown-covid-infections-b878673.html%3famp
Wouldn't like to end up getting the virus over there I think.
You can work on more than just muscles , your appearance, how you dress and such , having money is great , try striving for a package , looks , finances , how you come across. I see men spend way too much time learning the language, and forgetting the basics of being a man
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UA for me is more rundown, i am a digital nomad, i spend my time jumping between FSU and North America. It is my opinion, i am still in the dating game, unlike most who repeat conquests they had 20 years back, these days young women have Iphones, need more than just money to get by ;)
Do you mean more specifically dating or game?
Kharkov is the 2th city of the country, there is a good vibe there.
If you are in Kiev in the next day PM me.
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You got it bass-ackwards. I think Russia has spent more on its big cities, but the countries are equally run down, in different ways.
I agree with your suggestion ;)
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Do you mean more specifically dating or game?
Kharkov is the 2th city of the country, there is a good vibe there.
If you are in Kiev in the next day PM me.
Dating , I don't do any bars etc No time these days, too busy working , tattoos , and gym, women fit around my schedule 😂
I love Kharkov, I avoid capital cities like Kiev, I find capitals attract the worse of a country as a whole , but if I do , I would gladly meet-up
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You can work on more than just muscles , your appearance, how you dress and such , having money is great , try striving for a package , looks , finances , how you come across. I see men spend way too much time learning the language, and forgetting the basics of being a man
I agree, I think Ukrainian women are particularly interested in the things you mention. Belarusian women tend to often be more interested in the physic but that is of course generalisation. I'm planning on getting back to Ukraine next year when hopefully things will be better, I should be in a better position financially to make a go off it then so it's something I'm really looking forward to. With all the beautiful women in Ukraine that are brought up in the traditional way I find the place like a paradise. I've been to Kiev, Odessa, Nikolaev and Lviv but I've never been to Kharkov (Kharkiv) yet. I hear Kharkiv has a lot of dodgy women but I also heard to be wary of Nikolaev. It also intrigues me to go and see what these well talked about cities are like. I know Kharkov is one of those cities a fair few guys looking for FSW go to in Ukraine but not as commonly ventured as Kiev of course. I've been to Kiev three times now so it's not holding that curiosity that I first had when venturing there.
I've also been to Moscow which I much enjoyed, a bit of a different feel to it than Ukraine, Minsk in Belarus also. St. Petersburg I've not been to yet but I've heard some of the cities outside these major two cities in Russia can be better for avoiding dating industry pitfalls.
Hope it continues to go well for you :)
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If you ask the men, they will say women just care about money, but truth is somewhere in the middle, it is just like the west here. I may get a few people angry, but FSU is not filled with kind caring people, i was out with my ex month ago, a woman fell in the middle of the street, people walked by, my ex and her friend didn't care, i ran and got the woman up, she smiled in shock. There is not much compassion here, i am meeting a girl tomorrow , she has a spanish boyfriend already , but she wants to try things with me. I had ex's who laughed cheating on their boyfriends, i am sort of guy where women can be open with. I did the the whole traditional girl thing etc, believe me , this is not the land where you find kind people of would love you till death, stick to the West if that is what you want.
I have short flings, and cut women quickly if they don't fit. I can tell you of a girl who loved me to bits, wanted my kids (many do), i found a stray kitten in ukraine, took the kitten in, but she would abuse the kitten if the kitten pooped, and laugh , and it pissed me off , so i told her to leave she was shocked i chose the kitten over her, but i knew she was evil deep down. You can see a woman's character by seeing the way they treat an animal, see how they react when the animal pushes them over the edge.
I was engaged a year ago, that woman helped me a lot, i would say she loved me, but the russian mentality got to her. It is hard to find true unconditional, many don't. I prefer to focus on myself, my health, physical appearance, business, if i ever do meet someone , then fair be, but i don't buy into a lot of what is posted regarding Western VS FSU women.
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If you ask the men, they will say women just care about money, but truth is somewhere in the middle, it is just like the west here. I may get a few people angry, but FSU is not filled with kind caring people, i was out with my ex month ago, a woman fell in the middle of the street, people walked by, my ex and her friend didn't care, i ran and got the woman up, she smiled in shock. There is not much compassion here, i am meeting a girl tomorrow , she has a spanish boyfriend already , but she wants to try things with me. I had ex's who laughed cheating on their boyfriends, i am sort of guy where women can be open with. I did the the whole traditional girl thing etc, believe me , this is not the land where you find kind people of would love you till death, stick to the West if that is what you want.
I have short flings, and cut women quickly if they don't fit. I can tell you of a girl who loved me to bits, wanted my kids (many do), i found a stray kitten in ukraine, took the kitten in, but she would abuse the kitten if the kitten pooped, and laugh , and it pissed me off , so i told her to leave she was shocked i chose the kitten over her, but i knew she was evil deep down. You can see a woman's character by seeing the way they treat an animal, see how they react when the animal pushes them over the edge.
I was engaged a year ago, that woman helped me a lot, i would say she loved me, but the russian mentality got to her. It is hard to find true unconditional, many don't. I prefer to focus on myself, my health, physical appearance, business, if i ever do meet someone , then fair be, but i don't buy into a lot of what is posted regarding Western VS FSU women.
Do you still have the kitten? Hope so.
I agree, anyone who is cruel to animals is a bad person.
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No, found her a home, messaged all the women i knew in kharkiv hahahaha, and asked them to ask their friends, found someone in the end. I can't do animals at the moment. Also my prior comment, was regarding Ukrainian men, will tell you money is what women want.
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If you ask the men, they will say women just care about money, but truth is somewhere in the middle, it is just like the west here. I may get a few people angry, but FSU is not filled with kind caring people, i was out with my ex month ago, a woman fell in the middle of the street, people walked by, my ex and her friend didn't care, i ran and got the woman up, she smiled in shock. There is not much compassion here, i am meeting a girl tomorrow , she has a spanish boyfriend already , but she wants to try things with me. I had ex's who laughed cheating on their boyfriends, i am sort of guy where women can be open with. I did the the whole traditional girl thing etc, believe me , this is not the land where you find kind people of would love you till death, stick to the West if that is what you want.
I have short flings, and cut women quickly if they don't fit. I can tell you of a girl who loved me to bits, wanted my kids (many do), i found a stray kitten in ukraine, took the kitten in, but she would abuse the kitten if the kitten pooped, and laugh , and it pissed me off , so i told her to leave she was shocked i chose the kitten over her, but i knew she was evil deep down. You can see a woman's character by seeing the way they treat an animal, see how they react when the animal pushes them over the edge.
I was engaged a year ago, that woman helped me a lot, i would say she loved me, but the russian mentality got to her. It is hard to find true unconditional, many don't. I prefer to focus on myself, my health, physical appearance, business, if i ever do meet someone , then fair be, but i don't buy into a lot of what is posted regarding Western VS FSU women.
You are in the right demeanor to enjoy your time in the Eastern Countries.It's best to globally stay in control, most of the time.
Every time I talk about women's polygamy, a lot of people, especially men, stare at me with disdain or hostility, like
I was vulgar ... but the reality is the reality, it could be vulgar, all depend if you put a lot of moral judgment on this.
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What bothered you, in the russian mentality you mentionned about your ex girlfriend?
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What bothered you, in the russian mentality you mentionned about your ex girlfriend?
Probably that she was a cold blooded mercenary looking for money as her first priority. :popcorn:
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I see men spend way too much time learning the language, and forgetting the basics of being a man
Once upon a time I desired a woman who was a former gymnast, and she wanted me to bulk out and I wanted her to try to learn English
She's still physically fit, speaks poor English and single.. I learnt how to better explain myself in Russian and I'm happily married.
Just saying ;)
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Too much info , never mind
I read it before you deleted.
Sorry you went through that, a lot of guys go through similar.
Why not give her another chance if she said she was sorry?
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I read it before you deleted.
Sorry you went through that, a lot of guys go through similar.
Why not give her another chance if she said she was sorry?
Because once i realised she didn't have my back when things got tough, i am not in the game anymore. Today i woke up, my facebook business got hacked, that is where all my clients are from. I can make changes, change the business to suit my needs, but my brother who quit his lucrative career to join me would be stuffed, so i couldn't. We discussed possibly me continuing even though the facebook page is gone, and i will take 75% (i already do 90% of the work), but we are bothers, and for family it is unconditional, i always told him to take 50% of everything, right from the start he asked from less, but again, we are family. No matter how bad stuff gets, we ride it out, we found a solution, and realised it is actually better in the long run that we lost our page. We worked together, found a solution, even when times were bad, we didn't ask 'what can i salvage'.
It is the same mentality marines use, they are willing to die for the person next to them, because they know the person next to them will do the same. That is how i view a marriage, I reached the stage in my life where i not only ticked my ex fiancé's boxes, but exceeding several times forth, but that is not the point, she wasn't willing to hold out till the end, she missed the end by a fraction. She failed the test, there is no retakes.
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Because once i realised she didn't have my back when things got tough, i am not in the game anymore. Today i woke up, my facebook business got hacked, that is where all my clients are from. I can make changes, change the business to suit my needs, but my brother who quit his lucrative career to join me would be stuffed, so i couldn't. We discussed possibly me continuing even though the facebook page is gone, and i will take 75% (i already do 90% of the work), but we are bothers, and for family it is unconditional, i always told him to take 50% of everything, right from the start he asked from less, but again, we are family. No matter how bad stuff gets, we ride it out, we found a solution, and realised it is actually better in the long run that we lost our page. We worked together, found a solution, even when times were bad, we didn't ask 'what can i salvage'.
It is the same mentality marines use, they are willing to die for the person next to them, because they know the person next to them will do the same. That is how i view a marriage, I reached the stage in my life where i not only ticked my ex fiancé's boxes, but exceeding several times forth, but that is not the point, she wasn't willing to hold out till the end, she missed the end by a fraction. She failed the test, there is no retakes.
thumbs up.
No idea how this shit happened?
Or at least change all your passwords to protect all other stuff?
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We have no idea , as facebook groups were fine, site was fine, the payment system was fine (they could have cancelled all recurring payments). We believe facebook business manager which owns the page, was hacked, our accounts have authentication. It worked out better for us, as i told my brother to install pixel on the site a week ago, but we lost a lot of data we had with facebook, to run ads. But we prefer using the site now on as our landing page, and doubled down on security, setup double protection on all accounts, so if anyone tries to login with a different device, they will need permission. Good slap on a face for us to wake up, and take security more seriously.
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We have no idea , as facebook groups were fine, site was fine, the payment system was fine (they could have cancelled all recurring payments). We believe facebook business manager which owns the page, was hacked, our accounts have authentication. It worked out better for us, as i told my brother to install pixel on the site a week ago, but we lost a lot of data we had with facebook, to run ads. But we prefer using the site now on as our landing page, and doubled down on security, setup double protection on all accounts, so if anyone tries to login with a different device, they will need permission. Good slap on a face for us to wake up, and take security more seriously.
CyberCriminality if of first importance today, and this hit everyone today. You are one of the victims, unfortunately.
Digitalization can vanish by nature instantly and so the related business.
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NEVER click on a link in your email. You may think it goes to your social media page or bank or porn site but it's a copy cat site to look the same and as soon as you log in with user name and password, you gave it to them. Also clicking the link may download a keylogging program that records ever keystroke and sends the info back to the cyberthieves. It's not easy for hackers these days unless someone is willing to give up their info unknowingly.
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When I said run down , I was talking about the dating culture , I prefer it in Russia, less scam attempts , more genuine people, you can find good and bad anywhere , it was a general statement
I found dating much better in Russia (18 months ago). Haven't been able to return this year due to obvious reasons.
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You can work on more than just muscles , your appearance, how you dress and such , having money is great , try striving for a package , looks , finances , how you come across. I see men spend way too much time learning the language, and forgetting the basics of being a man
Trench has a job making about $18K per year working 20 something hours per week
but he is too busy with his 20 hour job to go to the gym more than once or twice per
week, and he expects to get ripped. He will twist your advice above to somehow
say that he is going about it the right way.
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Got a tattoo session booked for 11am to 5pm today (i do my tattoos around 3 times a week),i never took a holiday, this is my only 'holiday' , to get tattoos, i work 7 days a week, sometimes i used to do tattoos daily from 9:30pm to 2am when i was with my ex (i have many, so don't assume you know which it is), because work finished around 9:15pm for me. The women i been with seen how focused i am (during good and bad times). I would sleep 6 hours, wake up, 15mins later be out the door to go to the gym (Stopped gym 2 months now, since my tattoos). I would come home and work till 9:15pm.
I was worried, and still worry i am too into my routine, and it is and was hard to give my time to a woman. But they loved it, they saw my passion, drive to be better. I took care of them sexually, made them feel safe financially, i just couldn't invest time, they learnt from me (i get on with their mothers, because we share similar mindset on becoming best versions of ourselves).
My advice is based on what i would give myself, focus on yourself, be the best you can be, try your best. People will try use anecdotes to be less than they can possibly be, and that is fine, that is their mindset, not saying it is not possible to succeed, but my mindset is to go full out whatever i do , business, tattoos, and relationships (when i love the person)
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One thing I don't get is what is the attraction with all the tattoo stuff? I know it's a personal choice but it's one that has never really attracted me, I'm not really sure what it does for a person. I guess apart from not wanting one there is all the bother of sitting around in a chair while if gets done. How do you find FSW taking to your tattoos?
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Most FSUW still don't like tattoos.
More snow white normal gals for normal guys.
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FSUW generally don't like them, my age range for women is 18-25 , more tattoo accepting, but you get people telling you 'why do you have so many?'. For the ones that like the, i am a saviour, as i am pretty much fully tattooed , apart from face,neck, hands. I did date a woman who hated them, but at the same time she was and still is madly in love with me, because i tick the other boxes.
South america is a place where muscles and tattoos are pretty much mandatory, a place i want to go to , but reluctant as i need a good internet speed, 100mb/s in FSU is what keeps me here.
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FSUW generally don't like them, my age range for women is 18-25 , more tattoo accepting, but you get people telling you 'why do you have so many?'. For the ones that like the, i am a saviour, as i am pretty much fully tattooed , apart from face,neck, hands. I did date a woman who hated them, but at the same time she was and still is madly in love with me, because i tick the other boxes.
South america is a place where muscles and tattoos are pretty much mandatory, a place i want to go to , but reluctant as i need a good internet speed, 100mb/s in FSU is what keeps me here.
Interesting to know, with no tattoos I should be cleaning up in places like Ukraine lol, think I'm lacking the muscles a little but also probably have not been going for expensive enough clothing. I bought some cheaper end Ralph Lauren shirts etc at home but over time have come around to recently thinking it's probably more the quality of the item/cut etc than the style rather than it just being a designer brand that probably counts for more.
My guess is that having tattoos probably makes you a bit of a novelty in Ukraine and Ukrainian women are interested in that.
You say you go for 18-25 year old women, how old are you?
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Most FSUW still don't like tattoos.
More snow white normal gals for normal guys.
Remind us when you last visited an FSU nation ?
Clearly there's enough biz for Japtats
I'm an ol' git and HATE tats, but I'd say nearly 40 percent of under 30's *I* know have at least one tat..
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I don't think tattoos are widely accepted, i had fair share of women tell me what they thought about them in a negative way . But every pot has a lid , and that is what you need to think about Trench. Stop trying to be the same as everyone else, and be more yourself, and attract women who will appreciate you for what you have today , not for flashing designers , yet don't have the money to back it up.
The thing I notice in the world, especially FSU, is people talk about stuff they will do , pretend they are people they are not , as in flashing designers , but cannot back it up.
After me and my ex fiance split, she dated a Russian guy , first date he told her she will never need to cook, clean, he will buy her a car , pay for everything, but he never did , she was sending me pics of her cooking, whilst I was was doing the opposite, she cheated on the guy and was envious of me, to the point we talked about meeting up again whilst she was still in a relationship . Trench , make your choice on who you want to be , but be sure you will sustain it , if not , you will be screwed.
One thing I want to do and try to do , is ensure what I say reflects my actions
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Thanks Jap, I think if someone is an out and out tattoo guy, or a surfer dude or a skateboard guy the process can be a little easier as it often can mean someone who is the same. Tattoos are often quite visual so it makes searching for someone else like that a bit easier.
Day to day I guess I'm a smart casual type of guy. I'm not against tattoos so much but think sometimes it can look a bit far gone when it's all over someone. I don't have any tattoos though for some reason a Celtic band tattoo around my right bicep has a certain appeal, I don't know why just an occasional feeling I get. I don't think I would get it done though I don't think I would want to bother sat around in the chair and then the cost. That and from what you say it may be counterproductive with the type of girls I go for, possibly. If I did I wouldn't see myself as going for any more than that one tattoo, less is more I fell as in one would stand out more alone than be lost among many, plus I think the look would be better. I'm not into the 'so and so loves so and so' stuff either I think that looks the worst. Like I say though I doubt I would ever get one done.
The type of girl I like, that has attracted me in the past tend to be the pretty girls or girly girls. Normally pretty dainty girls that dress a bit tarty but in a classy sort of way. Not really leery girl or uncouth sounding if you know what I mean. Some I guess could well wear fashion brands though I think a nice dress that shows off her figure is always good :) So probably a different sort of girl to what you go for I'm guessing.
It's kind of difficult to figure out what sort of thing would keep such a girl interested. Sometimes they have interests such as sport, gymnastics or modelling. Sport to me to be honest I think I'm a bit limited with, before the virus I did gym once a week for the previous 18 months, I kind of like it but there are times when I don't feel in the mood. I could do other sports but again probably not long term. The only one I could do long term is some sort of martial art. I don't do any at the moment but did Judo for a number of years as a child. I think it's the thinking process that keeps my mind intrigued rather than monotony. Gym is not too bad as I try to evolve my routine every so often. I'm not sure if there are many (straight) women that are into martial arts in the FSU though.
The rest of my interests are Architecture, history & heritage, scenery, restaurants, cinema, I watch sci-fi on a casual basis and play on odd video game occasionally but am not hard core into either if you know what I mean.
Music and theatre girls tend not to be my type, I've tried them and it's clear to me there is a mismatch on that front.
I don't mind the odd nightclub but it's not naturally my scene as I not a big socialiser.
I don't mind girls that are into clothes just so long as their paying ;D
So it's kind of a perculiar one for me, I could always find stuff to do with a girl I guess but its probably more whether we really gel over who we are if you know what I mean.
The don't mislead her thing came up here not so long ago with another poster (might have been Pat, not quite sure) so I know what you mean that it's a bad move to do that seems that it's a big faux pas to avoid lol.
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You need to go to the gym more than once a week for it to be worth it, and for a few years. I am going to say this politely, i notice in life there are two types of people, one where if they are giving instructions they go full out, the other where you give them instructions, you need to hold their hand and push them to do it, hence why i said a lot of people like to talk, but actions are not there.
Stop debating guys on here about Brexit, invest in your business or whatever it is to generate more money, go to the gym 5 times a week, find time. Stop making excuses and talking so much about what girls want and don't want, go full out, and not make excuses on why you are not putting 100%.
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You need to go to the gym more than once a week for it to be worth it, and for a few years. I am going to say this politely, i notice in life there are two types of people, one where if they are giving instructions they go full out, the other where you give them instructions, you need to hold their hand and push them to do it, hence why i said a lot of people like to talk, but actions are not there.
Stop debating guys on here about Brexit, invest in your business or whatever it is to generate more money, go to the gym 5 times a week, find time. Stop making excuses and talking so much about what girls want and don't want, go full out, and not make excuses on why you are not putting 100%.
It's not that easy Japs, I'm guessing you're in IT and so hence send heavy IT files over the internet and can work remotely and only need do a certain volume of work a day and can schedule when. Perhaps it is something else but similar concept.
Most of us don't have that option available. More perhaps have done due to working from home but that is a recent change and not one I am able to enjoy. Even then it can often mean you having to remain in the country to do it and working full out.
Hence most people are knackered by the time they finish work. The gym being the last thing on their mind. Usually diner and rest is all that is possible. Now you and I both know that to do gym it's not just about finding time but also not being tired while doing it. A tired guy at the gym doesn't perform well and normally goes home exhausted early and not up to his usual workout. That sort of life can't be maintained in the long run.
Myself I work 30 hours a week in my job then I spend long weekends converting my one bed house into a three bed house for rental. That should be done in the next few months. That should hopefully allow me more time for gym. I do all of the work on my house myself but while this involves some heavy lifting it tends not to equate to enough of a work out I think as there is technical working out and lighter work mixed in. Hence I am usually knackered by the end of it too much so to do the gym.
Apart from rental income when I get it in the conversion plus bring in an area outside the cities (virus uplift) means I am probably on course for an uplift in property price of approximately £100k over the original price though minus costs if materials if that so perhaps £70-80k uplift for three years or so work (tax free). Thats ok more than I would have got if I just worked extra hours in my job, not astounding but ok. Main thing is I will have rooms to rent out so that will give me more scope.
Other than rental income when it comes which will only provide so much I could ideally do with some online business but at present that alludes me. Many people try it but you can easily find yourself in a swamped market making no money if not careful so it's not as easy as some might think. Anyway that is why I can't spend hours in the gym. At the moment staying in work is more pressing. I count myself lucky that I'm not one of those being made unemployed.
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I know a lady in ukraine, making $25 an hour teaching english to chinese kids online, she bought 3 properties in odessa. She speaks some chinese, you can learn some broke Chinese , make a good income whilst in ukraine. Heck you can just use english, and charge $15 an hour and be fully booked out, why don't you? Got to beat Moby, Rosco and the others in the Brexit debate right?
I know nothing about Brexit, what is happening with Trump, or coronavirus, but my business industry, i know it better than anyone else. My clients know i am an expert, they beg me to take time off. Gym, i know about, tattoos i know about, i am an expert in the fields that effect life.
You got a few hours in each day, and you are choosing to waste them. I work 80 to 100 hours a week, i make it work, just stop making excuses.
Regarding myself, i started my business by myself (with my ex fiance's support), i was making $200 a month whilst working 80-100 hours a week. I made the site, made the content,i did it all by myself. My ex fiance's mother says that i am good at doing stuff solo. After 10 months i built it up, my brother left his job as a data scientist , in a lucrative job to work full-time with me. You are guessing a lot of stuff about me, but wrong .
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Forgot to say that I get what you are saying for sure if a guy works out, gets a toned physique then buys some decent quality reasonably expensive threads to put on that bod many FSW will start seeing him as prospect and not prey. It's a case of no longer putting lipstick on a pig as some guys might say here.
It's probably something a lot of guys can't emulate easy. A lot of guys can go in a pay a few hundred pounds or dollars for an expensive wardrobe but be lacking in physique. I'm not one of those fat dudes I'm an everyday average build type of guy but to date not much in the way of muscle even though I do some physical exercise.
I'm guessing that I would have to bring the gym more into my way of life so I can pace it a bit and do it as a way of leisure to get in the amount required. I'll try and or more time to doing it from home as I've got a bench and weights and don't fancy going to the gym at the moment for virus reasons. I think that's the best way of trying to up my efforts there atm and try and make it a long term thing.
Oh the Brexit stuff and posting here I generally just do during rest time when knackered. I'm guessing you're making more than $200 a month now you built your business up.
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Myself I work 30 hours a week in my job then I spend long weekends converting my one bed house into a three bed house for rental. That should be done in the next few months.
You’ve been saying this for some years now!!!!
Are you ever going to finish?
Apart from rental income when I get it in the conversion plus bring in an area outside the cities (virus uplift) means I am probably on course for an uplift in property price of approximately £100k over the original price though minus costs if materials if that so perhaps £70-80k uplift for three years or so work (tax free).
Hmmm, so you’re hoping for an increase in house valuation of £100k. :deadhorse:
Even if you have a nominal increase in your property value it’s just a paper exercise unless you sell. So no gain for Trench.
You’ve mentioned doing all the work yourself so so no adherence to building regs, certifying any electrical work etc.
Better not tell your house insurer, especially if you’re taking in lodgers.
This is Trench LaLa Land.
Main thing is I will have rooms to rent out so that will give me more scope.
So how much income are you hoping to realise from renting rooms. £100 per week inclusive?
That’s £10400 annually less bills. Take away £3000 for council tax, utilities, insurance pa
(I’m being generous here) which leaves £7400 annually which gives Trench under £600 pm. I haven’t included taxable income over £7500 which is the threshold so that leaves even less. Of course, knowing Trench he’ll probably charge rent at just the level to avoid paying any tax so if we factor that in, it’s an income of
less than £350 pm.
At the moment staying in work is more pressing. I count myself lucky that I'm not one of those being made unemployed.
Living on the poverty line as you do, one can see why.
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You’ve been saying this for some years now!!!!
Are you ever going to finish?
Hmmm, so you’re hoping for an increase in house valuation of £100k. :deadhorse:
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Even if you have a nominal increase in your property value it’s just a paper exercise unless you sell. So no gain for Trench.
You’ve mentioned doing all the work yourself so so no adherence to building regs, certifying any electrical work etc.
Better not tell your house insurer, especially if you’re taking in lodgers.
This is Trench LaLa Land.
So how much income are you hoping to realise from renting rooms. £100 per week inclusive?
That’s £10400 annually less bills. Take away £3000 for council tax, utilities, insurance pa
(I’m being generous here) which leaves £7400 annually which gives Trench under £600 pm. I haven’t included taxable income over £7500 which is the threshold so that leaves even less. Of course, knowing Trench he’ll probably charge rent at just the level to avoid paying any tax so if we factor that in, it’s an income of
less than £350 pm. Living on the poverty line as you do, one can see why.
Wrong on all counts JG. A property that has increased substantially in value can be used to buy another property or money invested elsewhere by use of a mortgage.
Building regs apply for work to existing buildings but alteration work may be carried out without inspection so long as it's to the building regs standard. It's generally down to the homeowner to apply for an inspection. Many old houses are often nowhere near building regs standard being constructed way back. Some have been changed but by bit over time as they pass from owner to owner, do you think they have ever been inspected?
I would of course get an electrician in at the end to any necessary work and to certify it.
Tax is dependent on whether still working. If not I can use my personal tax allowance of £12.5k.
Admittedly this won't bring in vast sums but it will make me more financially independent and hence able to spend more time on other ventures that may bring in more money. We're not all born rich you know ;)
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Wrong on all counts JG. A property that has increased substantially in value can be used to buy another property or money invested elsewhere by use of a mortgage.
Oh really.
Maybe in Tralalaland one can expect a £100k increase in a property’s valuation by converting a 1 bed terraced to a 3 bed.
Even with a nominal increase in valuation it’s all paper money. As for expecting to remortgage and buy other property, what bank is going lend with no cash deposit and an annual income like yours.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall at your meeting with your bank manager when you apply for that mortgage!!!
Building regs apply for work to existing buildings but alteration work may be carried out without inspection so long as it's to the building regs standard. It's generally down to the homeowner to apply for an inspection. Many old houses are often nowhere near building regs standard being constructed way back. Some have been changed but by bit over time as they pass from owner to owner, do you think they have ever been inspected?
Of course, I don’t know exactly what renovation/conversion work you are doing but my understanding of the building regs is that there are several areas such structural alterations or drainage, even reroofing, rendering/replastering are covered by the regs so it’s not as simple as you would have us believe.
I would of course get an electrician in at the end to any necessary work and to certify it.
One would hope you wouldn’t be such a tightwad so as to ignore basic safety norms.
Tax is dependent on whether still working. If not I can use my personal tax allowance of £12.5k.
I suggest you do some reading about income from lodgers and tax on such income.
Admittedly this won't bring in vast sums
You’re certainly right about that.
but it will make me more financially independent
Now you’re back in LaLaLand.
and hence able to spend more time on other ventures that may bring in more money. We're not all born rich you know ;)
Perhaps if you spent less time in LaLaLand and more time working and earning a decent income you could actually make a difference.
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I spend long weekends converting my one bed house into a three bed house for rental.
That should be done in the next few months. That should hopefully allow me more time
for gym. I do all of the work on my house myself but while this involves some heavy
lifting it tends not to equate to enough of a work out I think as there is technical
working out and lighter work mixed in. Hence I am usually knackered by the end
of it too much so to do the gym.
Trench,
You are making excuses. You work a grueling 30 hours per week. Hahahahaha!
If you work any 30 hour days, take that day off, otherwise you should be at the
gym AND learning Russian AND improving your income AND improving your
future earning potential. The more you work out the less knackered you will be.
If a girl starts making excuses dump her immediately since she isn't serious enough
about you or motivated enough to pursue.
This forum is many things but excuses tend to fall on deaf ears. Be a man of action!
Not a man of excuses.
(http://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/45/a9/1145a949ad1980030196e4b2cbf6cced.png)
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Trench,
You are making excuses. You work a grueling 30 hours per week. Hahahahaha!
If you work any 30 hour days, take that day off, otherwise you should be at the
gym AND learning Russian AND improving your income AND improving your
future earning potential. The more you work out the less knackered you will be.
If a girl starts making excuses dump her immediately since she isn't serious enough
about you or motivated enough to pursue.
This forum is many things but excuses tend to fall on deaf ears. Be a man of action!
Not a man of excuses.
(http://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/45/a9/1145a949ad1980030196e4b2cbf6cced.png)
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Trench,
You are making excuses. You work a grueling 30 hours per week. Hahahahaha!
If you work any 30 hour days, take that day off, otherwise you should be at the
gym AND learning Russian AND improving your income AND improving your
future earning potential. The more you work out the less knackered you will be.
If a girl starts making excuses dump her immediately since she isn't serious enough
about you or motivated enough to pursue.
This forum is many things but excuses tend to fall on deaf ears. Be a man of action!
Not a man of excuses.
(http://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/45/a9/1145a949ad1980030196e4b2cbf6cced.png)
That's a funny postcard Bill I like it! :D
Well, funny as it may seem I did get an idea for a website business today to try to boost my income and give me more independent income. It's something I can do within my existing schedule so shouldn't conflict with existing tasks too much. I'll try and start cracking on it this week :) Don't worry it's not teaching English, decided that I would pass on that one unless no other option lol. The gym stuff I will just have to try and get some time in at home which I've struggled too at the moment but here's hoping. When my schedule eases up a bit I will replace it with more gym stuff, till then the lifting work doing up my house will have to suffice.
Learning Russian I want to get going on again and think I might be able to fit some in at night after working on my house. I can lay in bed and follow the tape on it. I'll give that all a bash and let you know how it goes ;)