Russian Women Discussion
RWD Discussion Groups => Experienced => Topic started by: Trenchcoat on January 30, 2019, 08:35:16 PM
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Ok, so I've got a bit of a dilemma on about what jacket to buy. Do I buy back good suit jacket or a good leather jacket?
I have jackets at home but they vary in style, suitability for occasion, etc.
I essentially want to buy a jacket that helps to give a good impression of me visually. I want to shoot a new photo for my main profile photo to get some attention for my next run at the FSU dating game to commence shortly :)
A suit jacket is often seen as a safe bet, I would need to get a new one of decent good quality I think as most if the ones I have are cheap and I don't think help to lift me visually. However, I find suit jackets kind of limited when out and about particularly with more casual situations. They can can kind of feel out of place in some situations and overdone. For me I think the danger might be I cone of as a bit stiff & starchy, not with it or similar.
So then there is the possibility of a good leather jacket as an alternative. I have a couple already but neither are lightweight nor that current with trend. So I would have to get an modern up to date one that's lightweight and would suit me. For me this option has appeal as it avoids my perception of feeling a bit ill at ease with suit jackets in some occasions. It also is a look I can probably keep up more day to day. I think it generally goes with more stuff and be more appealing to a wider audience of FSW.
Of course nothing to stop me from getting both options. I'm just thinking of a default option for day to day stuff with a FSW and meeting one. Having written this I think I will have to try on both options and see what options look best on me. I'm slightly swaying towards leather jackets atm as I've tried suit jackets and haven't really found any big bonus to wearing them with FSW. Perhaps I need a better quality one though, thoughts?
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You can't go wrong with a B3 bomber jacket, a green plaid shirt and matching trousers with white patent leather penny loafers. Got to set your own style.
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You can't go wrong with a B3 bomber jacket, a green plaid shirt and matching trousers with white patent leather penny loafers. Got to set your own style.
I've already got a leather flying jacket if that is what you mean. I luke the look of it and it's great in the winter so long as it's not raining. That's the thing I guess with leather jackets they can be versatile in clothing combinations but not versatile in weather. Also there are do many different styles of leather jacket and they can go in & out of fashion quickly. I have a biker style jacket as well but it's probably out of fashion maybe.
Like I say I like the lighter style leather jackets but think I'll have to really try stuff on that looks right on me I guess is probably best.
I've heard that plaid shirts are to be avoided at all costs in the FSU as only foreigners tend to wear them and they are not regarded well.
So I'm also thinking a bit back towards suit jacket. Again I think I'm going to have to try on different styles and see what works. They probably don't date like other fashion so much but need to feel right. I know some people on here have stated sports style suit jackets and I could try one on, on some people they look good but I'm not so sure if it's for me.
The point you make about you're own style is important I think Maxx as I think some styles suit some people more than others. That said looking real out of it is not a great look either. At the moment there seems less of a dominant fashion item which is kind if nice but then it's what to choose lol. So something that looks good on me and remains relatively timeless may be best perhaps.
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you should get a "Trench Coat" ;)
you can get a "blend in" coat for Ukraine, just make sure it's black, and you'll be like every other guy
or go for a different color/style, which is what I'd recommend, don't be overly flamboyant (that's the "mafia" look!)
for example, a brown Remy Leather Suede Moto jacket or other brown leather suede jacket
only a "real American" can pull off wearing a Ralph Lauren Fringe Deerskin Jacket and cowboy hat in Ukraine and gold framed aviator glasses worked wonders
in Kyiv, the first reaction, is someone think's your're a "poser" "dressing up" like an American
then they insult you, ehh Pridorik, shto te delash?"
then you reply, "well hey pilgrim, what's up?
then in shock, they realize you REALLY ARE a Marlboro Man!!!!
women would stand before me with their tongues sticking out.... I didn't know what it meant at first...
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women would stand before me with their tongues sticking out.... I didn't know what it meant at first...
I might mean they were about to hurl. :D
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"I might mean they were about to hurl. "
close... inexperienced ones will often display a"gag reflex" the first time, but that's...that's later not at the "meet and greet" stage
I think it was in May of ‘97, but I may be wrong about the date, I walked into the McDonald’s (I think they had just opened) in Kyiv with a Marlboro man jacket, Cowboy hat (with large shocks of dark blond hair sticking out in front and on the sides with a rattlesnake band on the hat that I made myself from a rattlesnake I dispatched with a rock in the desert of northern Nevada (Ely, NV) + 14k gold WWII aviator glasses + Morgan silver dollar belt buckle and my "kakashka kicker brown leather boots and tight fitting genuine Levi's jeans...
if you went to some hick town in Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, etc, and went into a redneck/cowboy bar, this would be how every guy there would be dressed
it also doesn't hurt the image, the fact that I'm 6'3"
it produced a very weird reaction
literally every woman in the place stopped what she was doing and turned to look at me
EVERY...SINGLE...ONE...
and the volume level of the place noticeably dropped...
after that, I never wore that outfit again in Kyiv it got TOO much attention!!!!
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Ok, so I've got a bit of a dilemma on about what jacket to buy. Do I buy back good suit jacket or a good leather jacket?
I have jackets at home but they vary in style, suitability for occasion, etc.
I essentially want to buy a jacket that helps to give a good impression of me visually. I want to shoot a new photo for my main profile photo to get some attention for my next run at the FSU dating game to commence shortly <snip>
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I essentially want to buy a jacket that helps to give a good impression of me visually. I want to shoot a new photo for my main profile photo to get some attention for my next run at the FSU dating game to commence shortly :)
When it rains around here or is cold I wear a US Army 1951 field pile hat from the Korean War. It is 68 years old, honest.
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4821/46216315564_9e7e16e295.jpg)
I had a Georgian friend a week ago who was stopped on the street by an elderly Georgian woman. She said, "You're the guy who I have see with that American guy who wears a funny hat." What does an old Georgian woman know about what looks cool? So rather than letting that discourage me from wearing it I bought a matching olive green leather jacket.
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4902/31999823147_134e10838b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4899/46216457354_803cd99efc.jpg)
And I got one of these to put on the upper left shoulder sleeve
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7855/39976561243_fa4498511d.jpg)
And a pair of these to put somewhere else. They are from WW2. Maybe should get a Lieutenant's bar for my hat?
Moby says someday he and SC will visit me. I will need to look fashionable for my honored guests.
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Trench think English think James bond. It's not what you wear it's how you carry yourself. Also leather jackets are sweaty to wear on the plane and take up too much room and weight in your luggage . My opinion . Not statistically proven. Msmob will have something to say I'm sure. Personally I like dark suits . Always better to over dress than under dress
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You can't go wrong with a B3 bomber jacket, a green plaid shirt and matching trousers
with white patent leather penny loafers. Got to set your own style.
You don't give the girls a chance do you? You didn't mention anything
about a hat and one thing FSU girls will insist on when you go outside
in the cold is that you wear a hat.
Now I will admit that the feather isn't for everybody, but if you can pull
it off then feel free.
(http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/oYVf9gqxZduttG6HW2Qo4ZUxLWW.jpg)
The other hat that is very popular is the fur hat, but those are expensive, so
cheap skates can go to Ali express and buy this hat for 37.43 rather than
Ali Express Hat $37.43
(http://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1kbbuQFXXXXcjaXXXq6xXFXXXV/Russian-leather-bomber-leather-hat-men-winter-hats-with-earmuffs-trapper-earflap-cap-man-real-raccoon.jpg)
Silver Fox real fur hat 599.99
(http://www.furhatworld.com/images_wm/large/Silver_Fox_Full_Fur_Russian_Hat_15174.jpg)
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Trench think English think James bond. It's not what you wear it's how you carry yourself. Also leather jackets are sweaty to wear on the plane and take up too much room and weight in your luggage . My opinion . Not statistically proven. Msmob will have something to say I'm sure. Personally I like dark suits . Always better to over dress than under dress
Some styles are for the young, and others for mature men. Like with women who wear clothes that should only be for women in their teens or early 20s
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because I have light color hair, I have to wear dark color clothes
my father had dark hair, and in the 1940s wore light color suits in the hot DC suburbs before air conditioning was universal
when he died I inherited his clothes, fortunately we are nearly the same size (minor alterations)
I now have a bunch of lovely suits made in the best haberdashery in Manhattan (probably some relative...)
however, now my hair is just beginning to turn a lovely silver color
probably in a few more years I will end up with platinum hair like my mother and grand parents
then I'm going to dress like this
http://i.imgur.com/NSx6JW5.jpg
but probably skip the hat
remember guys, it's NOT just about clothes, but don't forget to accessorize (or exercise)
this is the best accessory I'VE EVER SEEN for meeting girls in Ukraine other than pictures of Franklin
what ya do is ya sit there and wait for a pretty girl to walk by, then "Igor" jumps after her and you pull him back and say "mne tak zhal"
when she laughs, you say, "tvoya ulybka kak solntse"
"your smile is like the sun"
good ole Igor, he was the best damned dog I ever had, never crapped on the floor once!!!!
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you should get a "Trench Coat" ;)
you can get a "blend in" coat for Ukraine, just make sure it's black, and you'll be like every other guy
or go for a different color/style, which is what I'd recommend, don't be overly flamboyant (that's the "mafia" look!)
for example, a brown Remy Leather Suede Moto jacket or other brown leather suede jacket
only a "real American" can pull off wearing a Ralph Lauren Fringe Deerskin Jacket and cowboy hat in Ukraine and gold framed aviator glasses worked wonders
in Kyiv, the first reaction, is someone think's your're a "poser" "dressing up" like an American
then they insult you, ehh Pridorik, shto te delash?"
then you reply, "well hey pilgrim, what's up?
then in shock, they realize you REALLY ARE a Marlboro Man!!!!
women would stand before me with their tongues sticking out.... I didn't know what it meant at first...
Good one :) I would certainly stand out with a Trench Coat, lol.
The previous year when I was in Kiev with the girl we visited some boutique fashion indoor market on the outskirts. She sorted me out with a whole outfit (I paid). She was it clothes fashion (the buying of it) and had particular tastes both for herself and for the guy. She didn't like black much at all which surprised me. In the UK black is both the default standard as a safe bet to not stand out in a bad way and colour of choice for a sophisticated looking garment.
So I was somewhat surprised when I turned up in what I thought was safe and decent looking dress suit type of gear in black, etc. She didn't take to it too well at all though, it was kind of a problem as if I was somehow dressed badly. Now it may not have been catwalk stuff but it was a far cry from a scruffy baggy jeans, t-shirt and old cap stuck on top.
Anyway, most of the stuff she chose for me I have come to quite like, generally in the blue & white colour scheme. The jacket she chose (suit jacket style) idk. It's a fairly bright blue, textile look, I guess in some ways quite nice but never really sure if it is quite me. My brother pointed to the bright colour of it, for the UK while it's not real far out its not an everyday colour/look perhaps. I'll try and get around to posting you a photo of it to see what you think Krim.
So yes I could have the stand out look covered already, lol. I guess I could take a few photos with it on somewhere scenic and use for the main photo, start my messaging campaign and see how it goes. I guess I won't be another guy in a black suit at least!
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You don't give the girls a chance do you? You didn't mention anything
about a hat and one thing FSU girls will insist on when you go outside
in the cold is that you wear a hat.
Now I will admit that the feather isn't for everybody, but if you can pull
it off then feel free.
(http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/oYVf9gqxZduttG6HW2Qo4ZUxLWW.jpg)
The other hat that is very popular is the fur hat, but those are expensive, so
cheap skates can go to Ali express and buy this hat for 37.43 rather than
Ali Express Hat $37.43
(http://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1kbbuQFXXXXcjaXXXq6xXFXXXV/Russian-leather-bomber-leather-hat-men-winter-hats-with-earmuffs-trapper-earflap-cap-man-real-raccoon.jpg)
Silver Fox real fur hat 599.99
(http://www.furhatworld.com/images_wm/large/Silver_Fox_Full_Fur_Russian_Hat_15174.jpg)
Thanks Bill, the cheap hat would be the way to go, they look little different and I wouldn't like to think about leaving an expensive hat around. That's the problem with going over the top on real expensive gear it becomes a liabilty travelling around with it, one lost suitcase equals a fair amount of money down the drain and expensive replacements buying conceiveably.
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Ok, so I've got a bit of a dilemma on about what jacket to buy. Do I buy back good suit jacket or a good leather jacket?
I have jackets at home but they vary in style, suitability for occasion, etc.
I essentially want to buy a jacket that helps to give a good impression of me visually. I want to shoot a new photo for my main profile photo to get some attention for my next run at the FSU dating game to commence shortly :)
A suit jacket is often seen as a safe bet, I would need to get a new one of decent good quality I think as most if the ones I have are cheap and I don't think help to lift me visually. However, I find suit jackets kind of limited when out and about particularly with more casual situations. They can can kind of feel out of place in some situations and overdone. For me I think the danger might be I cone of as a bit stiff & starchy, not with it or similar.
So then there is the possibility of a good leather jacket as an alternative. I have a couple already but neither are lightweight nor that current with trend. So I would have to get an modern up to date one that's lightweight and would suit me. For me this option has appeal as it avoids my perception of feeling a bit ill at ease with suit jackets in some occasions. It also is a look I can probably keep up more day to day. I think it generally goes with more stuff and be more appealing to a wider audience of FSW.
Of course nothing to stop me from getting both options. I'm just thinking of a default option for day to day stuff with a FSW and meeting one. Having written this I think I will have to try on both options and see what options look best on me. I'm slightly swaying towards leather jackets atm as I've tried suit jackets and haven't really found any big bonus to wearing them with FSW. Perhaps I need a better quality one though, thoughts?
Ya think putting lipstick on a pig makes it look better??
Dress has to be being yourself and not try to be someone you are not. Being honest to others and yourself is best.
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Ya think putting lipstick on a pig makes it look better??
Dress has to be being yourself and not try to be someone you are not. Being honest to others and yourself is best.
I get that but it can also be an excuse to not bother. If I can be a better person whether clothing wise or in other ways why not be open to it. When the girl I was with chose stuff different to what I would usually chose I didn't mind I looked upon it as seeing what another possibility/choice could be. It kind of interested me what someone else would go for with me. While I wouldn't take it real extreme I think if you just stick with what you've grown up with it kind of creates a person that never really is able to attain new heights.
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When it rains around here or is cold I wear a US Army 1951 field pile hat from the Korean War. It is 68 years old, honest.
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4821/46216315564_9e7e16e295.jpg)
I had a Georgian friend a week ago who was stopped on the street by an elderly Georgian woman. She said, "You're the guy who I have see with that American guy who wears a funny hat." What does an old Georgian woman know about what looks cool? So rather than letting that discourage me from wearing it I bought a matching olive green leather jacket.
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4902/31999823147_134e10838b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4899/46216457354_803cd99efc.jpg)
And I got one of these to put on the upper left shoulder sleeve
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7855/39976561243_fa4498511d.jpg)
And a pair of these to put somewhere else. They are from WW2. Maybe should get a Lieutenant's bar for my hat?
Moby says someday he and SC will visit me. I will need to look fashionable for my honored guests.
You won’t need much in the way of clothing then as your ‘guests’ tend to dress ‘aux naturel’. 😂
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I always travel with a tailored suit and an Italian leather jacket. The latter is warm enough to act as a winter jacket unless it gets really cold.
Don't be cheap! A tailored suit that fits you perfectally is worth the money, and a genuine leather jacket will last a long time if cared for properly. Spend a thousand quid on both. I did see a nice reversible Armani recently, one side leather the other fur, but was around 3-3,500 quid. Maybe I'll see if it is discounted next time sales come around.
Don't do it for women, do it for yourself. It's nice to wear good clothes. Maybe it's just my experience, but I rarely see guys in suits in FSU airports.
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You won’t need much in the way of clothing then as your ‘guests’ tend to dress ‘aux naturel’. 😂
Never thought of that.... :-X
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I always travel with a tailored suit and an Italian leather jacket.
All joking aside. It is best to dress GQ. Ask GQBlues from here what that means. Maybe he'll give you the names of fashion designers that are not so expensive. I buy most of my clothes from Amazon, cheap stuff. But I am not trying to impress anybody. Someday though...
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Must admit I agree with rwd . Suit and a leather jacket. Just find a leather jacket hot on the plain. I normally wear winter hiking trousers for the journey as plenty of pockets plus you never know when you'll be standing in the snow
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Plane. Sorry my phone likes to auto correct.
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Ok Guys I have taken a pic of the jacket, how do I post up photos on this site?
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for example, a brown Remy Leather Suede Moto jacket or other brown leather suede jacket
only a "real American" can pull off wearing a Ralph Lauren Fringe Deerskin Jacket and cowboy hat in Ukraine and gold framed aviator glasses worked wonders
in Kyiv, the first reaction, is someone think's your're a "poser" "dressing up" like an American
then they insult you, ehh Pridorik, shto te delash?"
then you reply, "well hey pilgrim, what's up?
then in shock, they realize you REALLY ARE a Marlboro Man!!!!
women would stand before me with their tongues sticking out.... I didn't know what it meant at first...
is that why my lady friend went googly eyes when I sent her a picture with my Stetson...... Roflmao
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I call em "cowboy hats" cuz i'm from the east coast
I copied that look from rednecks in rural Nevada, my career forced me to spend two years there, and I had to put up with all these redneck/cowboy idiots
but if you go to Europe, and if you can pull off that look then you're a REAL COWBOY to them, all ya gotta do is say, "howdy m'am"!!!
EUROPEAN GIRLS FREAKIN LOVE IT!!!!!
can't say about whether the reaction was produced by your "mug" or your hat
try greeting her sans head ware and compare the response....
what's really interesting, is once you live over there awhile, you can easily spot a "foreigner" in a crowd of Ukrainians
they visually standout, how you dress can dramatically modify people's perception of you
in Ukraine, people there can easily see that you're a foreigner
some of the people will be women...
some of the women will be curious about you...
some of these women might even have a fantasy about you....
run yourself up the flag pole in Ukraine, in other words make yourself visible in places that have a high concentration of sweet young things...
then look around and see who's saluting (i.e. making eye contact, body language)
this is all I had to do there... easy...
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Surprised anyone has responded to Trench's Q
Does even HE think it will make a difference ? :rolleyes:
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but if you go to Europe, and if you can pull off that look then you're a REAL COWBOY to them, all ya gotta do is say, "howdy m'am"!!!
EUROPEAN GIRLS FREAKIN LOVE IT!!!!!
When I was in Germany on business I had a lunch conversation with a German gal married to a German man.
She confided in me her dream as a young woman was to marry an American farmer.
So she applied for the American Au Pair program.
She was accepted and was sent to
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San Francisco
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She not only didn't meet farmers . . . she didn't meet 'her kind' of guys.
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weed farms or vineyards in Napa just north...
far bigger gay population in West Hollywood than San Fran, I lived in an old house on"The Haight" for 2 yr
lotta Goth girls back then...
ahhhh, good times....
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How do I post up photos on this site?
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Surprised anyone has responded to Trench's Q
Does even HE think it will make a difference ? :rolleyes:
Was thinking the exact same thing... yet another fascinating 10 page thread about a jacket.
At least it's not about Polish virgins...
~CG
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"it's a show about nothing"
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Was thinking the exact same thing... yet another fascinating 10 page thread about a jacket.
At least it's not about Polish virgins...
~CG
I'm glad that that got cleaned out of my thread. Actually I got a few things to say about Georgian virgins, as it is the norm here before marriage. Also I got to get around to answering your last post.
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Georgians their wine is overpriced and the food very gristly meat
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Georgians their wine is overpriced and the food very gristly meat
I have to be careful buying Georgian meat. A lot of beef is tough to eat. The hamburger doesn't stick together too well. My plan is to find a source of meat and eggs from farmers outside the city. I want the grass fed and free range meat and eggs for their healthy omega-3s.
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I do exactly that. Own hens myself and know a farmer who walks an animal into the barn shoots it hangs it sells it. All against the regulations. No stress of a ride to the slaughter house. You know the meat is from your cow. Environmentally friendly. His fingers are tattooed with love and hat. Little accident with the knife ))))
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Yep heard of Georgians going for a little surgical rebuild before wedding day and back door doesn't count. Really I'm not that concerned big fuss about nothing to my mind.
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ahhh, the joys of having daughters who understand the value of "pleasing their father"
pizza delivery to the man cave, coming right up, would you like extra Parmesan?
Hamburger in the FSU
1. get yourself a woman
2. get her a meat grinder
3. introduce them to each other
4. go on about your business....
you need to add a bit of suet to make the "gamburger" to have a cohesive texture, probably other ways
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Yep having spent last night in hospital having sons scalp super glued together so a step daughter sounds good
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Georgians their wine is overpriced and the food very gristly meat
You are at it, AGAIN ?
Like all nations, some wine is over-priced ... some brands of Kindzmarauli ? ....
I hope to be able to answer the meat Q very soon ;)
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I've only had two Georgian foods - sulguni, a Georgian cheese which in Soviet times, was produced in Ukraine (even Georgians said the Ukrainian version was better), and kharcho, a traditional soup. Both are excellent.
This post was composed without the aid of google.
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Georgians seem to like their meat on skewers.. I like Ukranian produced horse sausage so sweet and tasty.
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I refuse to eat sausage in Ukraine. Too many bad reports.
This post was composed without the aid of google.
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" Too many bad reports."
BO, you should try those charcoal tablets to reduce gas
if these "bad reports" are REALLY loud, as opposed to "SBD" then try playing Tchaicovsky's 1812 Overture at maximum volume in a loop during dinner
unless it's another family presentation night, if it's that night then you're REALLY screwed alright...
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It has nothing to do with their effects. I'm referring to what is put in them. Same reason I won't eat some sausage brands here.
This post was composed without the aid of google.
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One of our "couples" friends: an Armenian raised in Georgia, she a Russian raised in Mongolia. They met in the US 20 years ago. She likes to cook. Dinners at their house are a fascinating mix of tastes, adopting the cuisine of all three countries. I can not remember the names of specific dishes, and most are vegetarian. All I do know is that I prefer those originating from Georgia.
So Maxx, you are in a good place.
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Trenchcoat,
The Canada Goose brand of jackets is a status symbol among the "in crowd." Such status that several coat owners have been robbed of their jackets at gun point.
(http://images.neimanmarcus.com/ca/1/product_assets/N/5/H/D/6/NMN5HD6_mz.jpg)
http://tinyurl.com/y7y6lljm
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Ok Everyone, here is a link to the Blue Jacket I bought with girl in Kiev in the previous year, the photo is a little blurry but you'll get an idea of what it looks like, what do you guys think?
http://imgur.com/a/uvnQkrA
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Trenchcoat,
The Canada Goose brand of jackets is a status symbol among the "in crowd." Such status that several coat owners have been robbed of their jackets at gun point.
(http://images.neimanmarcus.com/ca/1/product_assets/N/5/H/D/6/NMN5HD6_mz.jpg)
http://tinyurl.com/y7y6lljm
Thanks for the input Gator, for me its not an easy one. I don't really want to join the 'trendies' as I don't wish to spend out big bucks on clothes long term nor join that group its just not me. On the other hand I do see there is a need to be stylish and that decent looking clothes come at at least a certain price. So Im guessing I want to go more mid range than this, the thought of losing an item of property that costs a few hundred pounds to a grand or more a time doesn't thrill me, lol. I also don't want to attract materialistic girls as long term I don't see that they would do me any good/be any good for me.
So I guess what I am saying is that I want to dress in a style of clothes that looks good on me, adds to my look but not just be a walking fashion label with stuff bought just for the sake of the designer label. So probably not an easy course to chart; I think its going to have to be one I think over in terms of how I'm going to go about it to get it right. Just buying any real expensive coat for me and saying 'job done' I don't think will help me in avoiding the materialistic girls I hope to avoid this time around.
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Gator gave you good advice. I like that jacket. It has class without looking pretentious.
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Gator gave you good advice. I like that jacket. It has class without looking pretentious.
Ilike the Jacket too that Gator posted up. It would be around £800 with shipping though for me plus I would need it in a large size. Also its not necessarily the sort of jacket you would wear to the restaurant. Even posing for photos for my profile page I'm not quite sure.
I decided last night that I would go for style of an item an avoid too much expense, some style of course comes with a certain expense and that's fine. I don't really want to go to the expense such as we have here as it could attract the sort of girls I wish to avoid merely because I fitted in with their materialistic visions. Now I don't mind that a girl likes some nice dresses but if it all just the most expensive brand names all the way then that girl is really not for me. That's really the best way I can see of navigating this clothes fashion situation.
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it’s deeper than just clothes, fellas
ask a real estate agent
they do a thing called “staging”
whereby they influence a buyer’s perception by adding furniture, etc to a property
to increase it’s visual appeal
think of this as “props”....
my all time most successful “prop” was a Mac PowerBook
top end model was $3,500 in the USA and double that in Ukraine
there was maybe 2 or 3 in the whole country of Ukraine, and I had one of them...
best to keep it locked in a leather brief case like I did
other props
inside the briefcase were misc travel brochures, exotic “stuff” that no Ukrainian girl would ever see...
go into Taras Shevchenko library
find a place where a buncha girls are sitting
don’t make eye contact
just pick a table and have a seat
pull out some “work” and then do some “stuff” on the power book
within 5 minutes, they’ll come over
shy and hesitant at first
big smile and act surprised
keep voice low
ask for some help or assistance, a good choice is location of a nearby cafe to get a cuppa
when she tells you, look confused, then say, “hey I know, why don’t you come with me and show me and we’ll have lunch”
they call that step 1 and then you go on to step 2
I am not BSing you, I had a 50% success rate with this approach with women 18-28 and I was 40 at the time...
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it’s deeper than just clothes, fellas
ask a real estate agent
they do a thing called “staging”
whereby they influence a buyer’s perception by adding furniture, etc to a property
to increase it’s visual appeal
think of this as “props”....
my all time most successful “prop” was a Mac PowerBook
top end model was $3,500 in the USA and double that in Ukraine
there was maybe 2 or 3 in the whole country of Ukraine, and I had one of them...
best to keep it locked in a leather brief case like I did
other props
inside the briefcase were misc travel brochures, exotic “stuff” that no Ukrainian girl would ever see...
go into Taras Shevchenko library
find a place where a buncha girls are sitting
don’t make eye contact
just pick a table and have a seat
pull out some “work” and then do some “stuff” on the power book
within 5 minutes, they’ll come over
shy and hesitant at first
big smile and act surprised
keep voice low
ask for some help or assistance, a good choice is location of a nearby cafe to get a cuppa
when she tells you, look confused, then say, “hey I know, why don’t you come with me and show me and we’ll have lunch”
they call that step 1 and then you go on to step 2
I am not BSing you, I had a 50% success rate with this approach with women 18-28 and I was 40 at the time...
Good to know Krim :) Well I guess I could try with my Samsung Tab S6. Don't think I would purchase anything new just for the task though. In general it's more a permanent relationship I'm after than a quick hook up. Though I've never really seen why a quick hook up can't lead to a more permanent footing, so maybe I guess.
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Krim back in the day all I had to do was pull into a dinner along route 66 and speak with an English accent and the girls came flocking and no props at all except a rental car. Its the millennial pull of the chance of acquiring exotic DNA.
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tiz what all my British friends say, and the reverse is also TRUE!!!
seems to me some kinda Anglo American partnership could be put together, some kinda "cultural" exchange
young dewds today seem to need a LOT of help
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TC,
What would you normally wear?
A.to a nice, but not too pretentious restaurant?
B.daily ,or to go walk by the park or marina ?
Wear those things you already own for your profile photos, its who you are.
Nothing wrong with with updating your wardrobe, IF, its something you want to do for yourself, or would normally do at intervals anyway.
You know when I might think of fashion or clothes?
5 minutes before heading out the door .
Or in case of a long trip ,perhaps 15 minutes to grab a few things and toss in my bag.
You know the one time I might even put any thought into a particular choice of what to wear?(other than weather)
A first meeting or date.
Other times where a bit nicer dress code is warranted, I'd already know what I'd wear out of a couple choices.
I do occasionally think to wear stuff my wife finds attractive on me, but it's just stuff I already own that she happens to like the fit of better.
You know when I might care what any given random man or woman i dont know thought of my style ,or lack of fashion sense? Never.
So why (in th he past) would I care on a first date ?
It's not random and is someone I've had some type of connection with and would like to make a decent first impression,however the little bit of thought I'd put into it ,would be mostly deciding exactly the fine line between not dressing above what I'd do most naturally, and yet still looking a tad polished.
I would absolutely be completely ecstatic if some woman was not interested in me because of how I was dressed in either a chance meeting or an intentional one.
Do you understand that concept?
Sorts out who I'd actually be compatible without fuss nor muss.
Women who its that important to, well ultimately they would be unlikely to end up a good fit in my life, or I in theirs.
Women that wouldn't put so much emphasis on such things. ,props,or what brand watch,computer or cell phone I have, are far more likely to be compatible.
See how this actually works in real life?
The flip side is
I have been in long term relationships with fashionistas, it works as long as they dont expect that to also be my interest,and if they don't mind that I'm not going change wardrobe in some weird founding of a relationship. I dont expect them to take up motocross or desert racing either, so ....lol
You know that poor folk marry every day, so do wealthy folk, fashionistas, adventurers, and trash collectors.
Pray tell how ,if it takes all this manuavering, props, proper fashion down to what jacket ?
Ugh , thats draining and boring.
I'm not saying dont tidy up, I am saying be true to yourself.
Its the way you'll find someone compatible, .in fact it's the best way to do so.
You are over thinking it.
You only need to find one.
Part of sorting out is natural selection, for every women who would be disappointed you did not dress better (given a bloke already dresses within the realm of normal)
There would be at least one woman that found your confidence in not caring deeply about the subject , or what others thought of your attire , attractive.
My opinion is you need to meet more, dwell on the details less.
Someone may indeed love you for your passion for research and details, but you still need to keep meeting people(locally or wherever) to run into that person.
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So I’m sitting here at work, bored between classes, I read this OP, start laughing out loud. Colleague comes and she asks me what I’m laughing at, I let her read. Laughter ensues. Another colleague comes to see what is so funny. Other colleague is too busy laughing so I read it out loud to her. She starts dying. Other colleague (French teacher who doesn’t speak English) is intrigued I translate it to her, laughter ensues.
Thanks for the break in boredom. Best thread ever.
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your "Fransuska" finds us amusing (big eye roll)
really?
can you ask your ami for me which Parisian Pissoir is her "favorite", s'il vous plaît?
chic alors!
"Yermolov"? did you read the new biography, it says he was gay!!!
PS
please tell your French woman with hairy arm pits
that I have slept with more Ukrainian women than the two of you put together plus all your friends and relatives combined...
and that I find this fact entertaining as well!!!!!
merci, spossiba!!!!
PS II
hey malchik, if we're such "pridorki"
how come y'all copy every freakin thing we do, music, culture, technology, and EVERYTHING else
I don't think you had an original idea since the time you figured out how to put one little wooden doll inside another one
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So I’m sitting here at work, bored between classes, I read this OP, start laughing out loud. Colleague comes and she asks me what I’m laughing at, I let her read. Laughter ensues. Another colleague comes to see what is so funny. Other colleague is too busy laughing so I read it out loud to her. She starts dying. Other colleague (French teacher who doesn’t speak English) is intrigued I translate it to her, laughter ensues.
Thanks for the break in boredom. Best thread ever.
Over a thread about a Jacket? ???
I'm telling you there have been far funnier and entertaining threads on here. Admittedly generally when a western guy meets a Russian girl, and yes I'm guessing that occasionally means me.
Take James and his recent meeting with a Ukrainian woman north of Kiev. No one including himself would have guessed how that one would have twisted around. Nothing on him just it happens quite a lot to many of us on here including myself.
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TC,
What would you normally wear?
A.to a nice, but not too pretentious restaurant?
B.daily ,or to go walk by the park or marina ?
Wear those things you already own for your profile photos, its who you are.
Nothing wrong with with updating your wardrobe, IF, its something you want to do for yourself, or would normally do at intervals anyway.
You know when I might think of fashion or clothes?
5 minutes before heading out the door .
Or in case of a long trip ,perhaps 15 minutes to grab a few things and toss in my bag.
You know the one time I might even put any thought into a particular choice of what to wear?(other than weather)
A first meeting or date.
Other times where a bit nicer dress code is warranted, I'd already know what I'd wear out of a couple choices.
I do occasionally think to wear stuff my wife finds attractive on me, but it's just stuff I already own that she happens to like the fit of better.
You know when I might care what any given random man or woman i dont know thought of my style ,or lack of fashion sense? Never.
So why (in th he past) would I care on a first date ?
It's not random and is someone I've had some type of connection with and would like to make a decent first impression,however the little bit of thought I'd put into it ,would be mostly deciding exactly the fine line between not dressing above what I'd do most naturally, and yet still looking a tad polished.
I would absolutely be completely ecstatic if some woman was not interested in me because of how I was dressed in either a chance meeting or an intentional one.
Do you understand that concept?
Sorts out who I'd actually be compatible without fuss nor muss.
Women who its that important to, well ultimately they would be unlikely to end up a good fit in my life, or I in theirs.
Women that wouldn't put so much emphasis on such things. ,props,or what brand watch,computer or cell phone I have, are far more likely to be compatible.
See how this actually works in real life?
The flip side is
I have been in long term relationships with fashionistas, it works as long as they dont expect that to also be my interest,and if they don't mind that I'm not going change wardrobe in some weird founding of a relationship. I dont expect them to take up motocross or desert racing either, so ....lol
You know that poor folk marry every day, so do wealthy folk, fashionistas, adventurers, and trash collectors.
Pray tell how ,if it takes all this manuavering, props, proper fashion down to what jacket ?
Ugh , thats draining and boring.
I'm not saying dont tidy up, I am saying be true to yourself.
Its the way you'll find someone compatible, .in fact it's the best way to do so.
You are over thinking it.
You only need to find one.
Part of sorting out is natural selection, for every women who would be disappointed you did not dress better (given a bloke already dresses within the realm of normal)
There would be at least one woman that found your confidence in not caring deeply about the subject , or what others thought of your attire , attractive.
My opinion is you need to meet more, dwell on the details less.
Someone may indeed love you for your passion for research and details, but you still need to keep meeting people(locally or wherever) to run into that person.
Thanks Jumper I think you have solved my problem here :) I guess in a way I was getting near to it anyway. In recent years since I have started FSU dating I have updated my wardrobe a bit by bit and I think it works well for me doing it that way. I keep some of my older favourite clothes and get a few new clothes from mid range fashion brands I in the past wouldn't usually have bothered with.
The expensive clothes/top fashion brands I can't be bothered with its just really not me and I think would make me feel phoney and unsure of who or what I am or am doing. I think trying to look stylish for not large sums of money is a reasonable way about this situation.
Since I've already got jackets I will go with a pre-existing one and see how it goes. I personally don't think a real expensive jacket is going to change matters for me in any positive way. Like you say it will help filter out the wrong girls by not going down that path and that will be a good thing. So I will keep any new purchases including jackets to a moderate price to try for a good cut between decent clothes that look good (well hopefully!) whilst avoiding the wrong type of girls as that would just waste more of my time.
Many thanks for your help on this, I appreciate it :)
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your "Fransuska" finds us amusing (big eye roll)
really?
can you ask your ami for me which Parisian Pissoir is her "favorite", s'il vous plaît?
chic alors!
"Yermolov"? did you read the new biography, it says he was gay!!!
PS
please tell your French woman with hairy arm pits
that I have slept with more Ukrainian women than the two of you put together plus all your friends and relatives combined...
and that I find this fact entertaining as well!!!!!
merci, spossiba!!!!
PS II
hey malchik, if we're such "pridorki"
how come y'all copy every freakin thing we do, music, culture, technology, and EVERYTHING else
I don't think you had an original idea since the time you figured out how to put one little wooden doll inside another one
Lulz, dude I’m an American living in Russia for nearly 10 years, and she isn’t ‘my’ anything other than coworke, but she is Russian not French. Russians are allowed to teach languages too.
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Over a thread about a Jacket? ???
I'm telling you there have been far funnier and entertaining threads on here. Admittedly generally when a western guy meets a Russian girl, and yes I'm guessing that occasionally means me.
Take James and his recent meeting with a Ukrainian woman north of Kiev. No one including himself would have guessed how that one would have twisted around. Nothing on him just it happens quite a lot to many of us on here including myself.
Pretty much everyone was laughing at the deep process of thinking about what jacket to have for new profile photos on the internet. They found it ridiculous, my colleagues are mostly single Russian women between 25 and maybe 40. So think about that.
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"Lulz, dude I’m an American living in Russia for nearly 10 years, and she isn’t ‘my’ anything other than coworke, but she is Russian not French. Russians are allowed to teach languages too. "
gozpedy
sorry for the bardak brat
wait, are you "Internet Research" like me? (see my sig? eta pravda!)
RU GRU 26165? s'matree 27131 eta ya!!!
Москва to Texas VPN
shhh, don't tell anyone...
kak de la moy brat?
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Over a thread about a Jacket? ???..
Absolutely!
Listen to what Kunstkammer and Jumper are telling you (I tried to tell you the same thing before my post got deleted. This likely will, too). You have got deeper problems if in your mind donning a jacket, or anything, for a picture enhances yourself to anyone.
Also, please, burn that silly blue jacket while you're at it. Frankly it's hideous...It's a myth to believe one has to spend a great deal of money 'to look good'.
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Absolutely!
Listen to what Kunstkammer and Jumper are telling you (I tried to tell you the same thing before my post got deleted. This likely will, too). You have got deeper problems if in your mind donning a jacket, or anything, for a picture enhances yourself to anyone.
Also, please, burn that silly blue jacket while you're at it. Frankly it's hideous...It's a myth to believe one has to spend a great deal of money 'to look good'.
LMAO, well I've never been too sure on it. The girl I was with seemed to have a real problem with the colour 'black' - she didn't like the colour. I went to meet her in a black jacket, black chino's, black shoes, only my shirt I wore was not black. She had a problem with pretty much all of it, I thought I had dressed reasonable and smart, she didn't seem to think much of how I dressed. I rather like the colour black though in fairness to her it can probably be too much/dismal if you wear a lot of black. I think in general though she had a particular taste is fashion preferring the more colourful end. It was another area where we had issues with one another. I partly out of interest as to where she thought I was of tge mark and partly to try and come to terms with her on it decided to allow her to fish out some stuff to her taste for me. There were items that I took more to but the jacket I was never really sure off.
To be honest in reality it is probably a bit more brighter than in the pic and probably looks better in natural daylight and being worn. Even still it is an aquired taste I guess :-\
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Krim, would be interested to know what you think of the blue jacket? I know you said about wearing a jacket of colour but I'm just wondering if I would be better of sticking it safe with a black jacket that may offend the few. What do you think?
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it's Ukraine... so black is always the new black
blue maybe in the spring but it's a tougher color to match you have to have a light shirt go for a red tie for most contrast
black jeans, leather shoes
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it's Ukraine... so black is always the new black
blue maybe in the spring but it's a tougher color to match you have to have a light shirt go for a red tie for most contrast
black jeans, leather shoes
Thanks Krim, well I've a few light shirts like a striped blue & white one, etc so it could go. I guess on a purely stand out basis so the girls spot you its not a bad idea. I personally don't hate the jacket I got, I think it looks better wearing it than on the rack. I think I'll shoot profile photos of me with both a black and a blue jacket and see what goes down best online and what seems to look good to me.
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a capital idea!
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a capital idea!
:D
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she didn't seem to think much of how I dressed.
And since you were dressed reasonably appropriately, and admit fashion isnt a big interest of yours,
It just illustrates my point.
You could have,and should have, saved yourself a lot of time in Mrs not right *for you.
She expressed that she dint like how you dressed,even though it was within the range of standard, obviously it was quite an important point for her and not one for you. So you both should move on right then and there.
Shell find a guy more into fashion, you'll find one less into its nuances.
No need either to be put off about it.
Dont sweat these kind of details, they help, not hinder you in finding long term compatibility .
And think about that, who would you really feel completely compatible with?
Not some fantasy girl, not physically, who as a person would you admire?
I mean truly admire.
Look for her,
the rest us just white noise that gets in the way.
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And since you were dressed reasonably appropriately, and admit fashion isnt a big interest of yours,
It just illustrates my point.
You could have,and should have, saved yourself a lot of time in Mrs not right *for you.
She expressed that she dint like how you dressed,even though it was within the range of standard, obviously it was quite an important point for her and not one for you. So you both should move on right then and there.
Shell find a guy more into fashion, you'll find one less into its nuances.
No need either to be put off about it.
Dont sweat these kind of details, they help, not hinder you in finding long term compatibility .
And think about that, who would you really feel completely compatible with?
Not some fantasy girl, not physically, who as a person would you admire?
I mean truly admire.
Look for her,
the rest us just white noise that gets in the way.
Thanks Jumper, your guiding me does help a lot :)
Yes I see now that we were not aligned enough nor ever likely to be. Its a shame as I think she was a nice girl apart from all the clothes buying stuff, lol but I now more sure that that was because of her very specific interest than any real attempt to make it a money making operation. She told me that she liked me and I think she was genuine in that though I think long term the relationship would have probably come under strain and struggled to work. It was a match that somewhat worked but was not really quite there. Like you say I should have walked away Iwas considering it in the first meeting week but in some ways we did get on and there was a degree of attraction there so I stuck it out when perhaps I shouldn't off. It was good experience anyway and I think time again and in future it will help me look at relationships with a more critical eye which should hopefully help in the future.
I know its come up a bit before as to what type of girl other than the physical.
I know I previously said theatre, music, performing arts girls are not really suitable for me and I stick to that, but bringing this point up again helps to hightlight an area I needed to think more on.
I think most girls with any intense interests are probably out as they can be difficult to keep up with if its full on all the time or be in alignment much with. The one exception might be architecture, buildings, sight seeing as its my area on specific interest although if a girl is too full on even that may get a bit heavy if she has little other intersts. I'm happy with girls that like a bit of clothes shopping for dresses, etc but ones which are not too rigid in there tastes or too full on with it. So I think girls who like hiking, general leisure activities, light amounts of sport, gardening, not too extreme intellectual interest, reasonable amounts watching TV, getting around/tourism, sightseeing, the odd restaurant, etc is fine with me. Basically as said anything that I don't find almoist inaccessible such as theatre and is not too much of an extreme part of her life. I'm quite happy to try most new things though stuff at height is not really a thing I would want to get with, boating, winter sports or offbeat stuff all fine.
I think the main thing is if I found a girl I like but had an extreeme interst in something would either be to decide if we could at all become aligned or call it a day. If she was mind set rigidly on her interst as the first girl I doubt it would work out. I could see it she could take to other activities to broaden her out a bit and if she didn't clash too much then maybe but like you say finding one that I don't clash with on her intersts is no doubt something to aim for.
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Wow, sometimes I am amazed at how many responses a subject gets! I watch shows and get fashion ideas and up too know have not had a issue with profile pictures....... maybe I am just better looking than the average Joe....... But I don't think this is the issue. ......but my Russian Lady seems too have initially picked me being looks..... Recently asked her. So trench sorry to say maybe there are other issues going on buddy. Wheres the confidence of who you are?
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Wow, sometimes I am amazed at how many responses a subject gets! I watch shows and get fashion ideas and up too know have not had a issue with profile pictures....... maybe I am just better looking than the average Joe....... But I don't think this is the issue. ......but my Russian Lady seems too have initially picked me being looks..... Recently asked her. So trench sorry to say maybe there are other issues going on buddy. Wheres the confidence of who you are?
Confidence comes and goes depending upon my mood, mostly I have confidence there. Over the past few days I've not been feeling in the mood much, a bit washed out, but today I think it is coming back and I'm feeling more energetic and positive.
Well, I can get women message me, it kind of varies depending on site, picture, etc. In recent times I used to put up pics of me wearing glasses but no longer do (laser eye surgery) so need to take some more pics. I have some previous pics from where I have just taken glasses of for the pic to compare the difference. When I started on this venture I used to wear glasses that tinted over in the sunshine so they looked more like sun glasses. So that was on my profile pic and while it was a nice pic and got a fair few responses I think it may have kind of misled some girls into thinking they were sunglasses and that I didn't wear glasses.
Anyhow, thing is I now might as well make sure the clothing thing is appealing to a fair amount of women as I'm going to re-do main profile photo over time anyway. Its not really a question of getting a girl up but number. I'm wishing to do visit many this time around so want to put myself in the best light possible to get the number of girls up. One girl I have on hand already but need more and don't want to be unwittingly getting loads of no joy for the sake of bad photo's or whatever. I'm going to follow ML's strategy to try and get up a lot of girls to meet and of course on meeting it is good if the majority are not disappointed with my appearance I think.
I think with your situation DC it may be too early to read much into it as until you meet its just messaging and most get to manage to reach that stage in FSU dating even if they have to wait around a bit.
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Ok, I've resurrected this thread as I've had a bit of thought of recent and this thread seemed the most obvious place to put it.
I'm coming around to thinking that I do perhaps wear too many colours that are too dark. I know Pat etc have helped by showing how a different style can help out and Krimster with more brighter colours.
Now I'm not saying my colour choice is bad per item but as a whole a wardrobe full of clothes all of the none bright spectrum is a bit lifeless perhaps. I'm coming to thinking there are times to wear certain shades of bright or darker clothes and times for a combination of both maybe. Also that done right and not over the top, that it need not horribly clash.
My thoughts have turned to viewing others in public. I've noticed that some others like myself err perhaps too much with all darker shades and the effect is not necessarily all that good. Of course there are some on the brighter side who over do it a bit and there can be quite a clash.
Looking back at some of the photos of me in the past, my choice of a black suit jacket may indeed not suit me that well. This is quite an upheaval in my mind I feel as for most of my life I think I have been quite stayed in sticking with the darker shades in feeling they are more refined and descrete, more class even. I still would maintain that bright colours need careful use so I'm not about to chuck out my darker shades but I think carefully choosing a few brighter shades, non blacks may be the way to go for me.
On that count the girl I met in Kiev may well have been right in terms of going for something other than blacks.
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Ok, I've resurrected this thread as I've had a bit of thought of recent and this thread seemed the most obvious place to put it.
I'm coming around to thinking that I do perhaps wear too many colours that are too dark. I know Pat etc have helped by showing how a different style can help out and Krimster with more brighter colours.
Now I'm not saying my colour choice is bad per item but as a whole a wardrobe full of clothes all of the none bright spectrum is a bit lifeless perhaps. I'm coming to thinking there are times to wear certain shades of bright or darker clothes and times for a combination of both maybe. Also that done right and not over the top, that it need not horribly clash.
My thoughts have turned to viewing others in public. I've noticed that some others like myself err perhaps too much with all darker shades and the effect is not necessarily all that good. Of course there are some on the brighter side who over do it a bit and there can be quite a clash.
Looking back at some of the photos of me in the past, my choice of a black suit jacket may indeed not suit me that well. This is quite an upheaval in my mind I feel as for most of my life I think I have been quite stayed in sticking with the darker shades in feeling they are more refined and descrete, more class even. I still would maintain that bright colours need careful use so I'm not about to chuck out my darker shades but I think carefully choosing a few brighter shades, non blacks may be the way to go for me.
On that count the girl I met in Kiev may well have been right in terms of going for something other than blacks.
You mean much like putting red lipstick on a pig????
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Once again, Trench..What you wear has VERY little to do with your 'pulling power'
The reasons have been made clear to you
1/ YOU need to change to attitude to ladies ... in general and
2/ start listening, when you ask for help - get it and ignore it ... and
3/ STOP giving daft 'advice' to others - when when you are clueless .. yourself