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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2020, 05:42:59 PM »
2.  There is another consideration to look at.  Human Factors!  As if helicopter flight is not scary enough for some passengers, the thought of flying with zero visibility and no outside references is unsettling as a minimum.  During commercial flights, I have been amused by observing passengers response when the aircraft enters clouds on either departure or arrival.  They clearly tense up and sometimes even grip the armrest.  I suspect that the pilot may have not wanted to expose the passengers to this environment.  Needless to say, this could have been a fatal decision.



Kobe flew often, even more so before retirement. He doesn't like driving in LA traffic and he rents that multi passenger chopper on a regular basis according to the company that rents the chopper to him. It's safe to assume all the passengers on that chopper is used to flying in one.


 If the chopper was at 2300 feet before the dive that lasted 12 seconds, it's descending at 192 feet a second. That's as fast as skydivers free fall. At that fast of a descent, everybody would be screaming their heads off unless they are having medical issues that prevents them from doing so.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2020, 02:11:19 PM »



Inaccurate media reports are adding to the Byrant family's pain. Now they know what Trump deals with on an hourly basis. Media has been reporting the news with blind quotes and anonymous sources. I remember hearing a report saying all 4 of Kobe's kids died when in fact only one died. It seems the journalist pulled that story out of his ass because it didn't come from a credible source. The breaking and shocking news is shocking enough. I don't know why they need to add to it and outdo the other news organizations. Also some news reports say if the helicopter was 20-30 higher, it would've cleared the ridge and not crashed but truth is, at the rate of fall the chopper was in, they would've hit earth after clearing the ridge.




http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/kobe-bryants-family-says-inaccurate-reports-are-adding-to-the-pain-newspaper-says/ar-BBZvPq2?ocid=spartanntp

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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2020, 11:24:04 AM »
Ok, I fail to understand this. While it's tragic Kobe and the rest of the victims died in this awful accident, but this is taking this a little too much IMHO.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/liveblog/kobe-bryant-memorial-live-updates

They are actually charging $200-500.00/ticket to attend this. We are offered thousands for our suite by thrid party ticket agencies for this memorial.

This is ridiculous. Enough already.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2020, 11:37:02 AM »

Kobe’ wife has kids to feed. I wonder if they’re charging LeBron James and other friends of Kobe to attend or is it only the fans that are  getting shafted.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2020, 01:29:49 PM »
LOL!

Have you seen downtown LA with all the purple and yellow lights shining on the tops of the skyscrapers?   Some have the number 8, some have the number 24 emblazoned on them.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2020, 03:54:07 PM »
Kobe’ wife has kids to feed. I wonder if they’re charging LeBron James and other friends of Kobe to attend or is it only the fans that are  getting shafted.

Kobe was worth well over 600 million, and that's before counting the return he was due to receive from his investment on UFC when it got its boost for the changed in ownership. Like the way he played BBall, Kobe was gifted with an acute sense and passion in what he did inside and outside of a basketball court, business included.

So I don't think making 'more' money was the impetus for this memorial, or whatever you want to call today's festivities.

Which make it even more confusing to find out literally after the memorial was done - a wrongful death suit was filed by Bryant's family against the helicopter company, Island Express, AND the surviving family members of Ara Zobayan - the helicopter pilot! What the hey??


Couldn't they at least wait until after the investigation was concluded top see if there were negligence on the part of the pilot? Ara's family are in mourning, too I would think..
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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2020, 04:08:01 PM »
a wrongful death suit was filed by Bryant's family against the helicopter company, Island Express, AND the surviving family members of Ara Zobayan - the helicopter pilot! What the hey??


Suing the surviving family members of the pilot is pretty low IMO. Kobe's family has more than enough money. Don't need to punish people who aren't involved in the crash. There's no way the family of the pilot can afford high powered attorneys to counter the high powered attorneys of Kobe's family. Even if the pilot's family wins in court, they will be bankrupt when it's all said and done.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2020, 08:40:15 PM »
Initial NTSB investigation result reported pilot error as the cause of the accident.

http://ktla.com/news/local-news/ntsb-pilot-in-kobe-bryant-helicopter-crash-may-have-been-disoriented-in-fog/amp/

Cal, I think maybe this is actually what we discussed as they seem to suggest the pilot became ‘disoriented’

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With regards to your theory that disorientation of the pilot may have been the root cause of the accident, I agree that it has been the cause of many accidents.  In accepting this theory in this case I would also have to accept.....

1.  The pilot ignored all the IFR training with respect to recovery from disorientation.
2.  The pilot did not use or could not use the autopilot to recover.
3.  The pilot did not benefit from the extensive experience and flight hours in flying helicopters.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash
« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2020, 09:15:41 PM »
Initial NTSB investigation result reported pilot error as the cause of the accident.

http://ktla.com/news/local-news/ntsb-pilot-in-kobe-bryant-helicopter-crash-may-have-been-disoriented-in-fog/amp/


NTSB said he may have been disoriented. They don't know exactly what caused the crash. They're speculating. Article also said "The 1,700 pages of reports do not offer a conclusion of what caused the crash but compile factual reports. A final report on the cause is due later."
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