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Title: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: Charlie_M on October 09, 2019, 08:11:35 PM
Hello Everyone,

Thank you all for this forum and the useful tips and info. This is my first post.

I've been speaking to a lady in Belarus (originally from Russia). She speaks no English and my Russian is only very basic conversational. We have been emailing each other trying to use Google translate but the language is personal and complex so we are both having difficulties and finding it frustrating.

I suggested using a third party translator but this lady didn't like the idea and I respect her wishes.

Can anyone suggest a good online translation service, from English to Russian and Russian to English?

Thankyou!
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: BillyB on October 09, 2019, 08:21:09 PM

Welcome to the forum Charlie. Your lady probably doesn't want anybody else to be involved with the conversations you two have. If she has a mail.ru email account, she has a translator she can use to translate your words to her language and her language to English.

Here's a free online translator. After translating, cut and paste the text into emails.

http://www.online-translator.com/

Keep in mind, if you or her have poor grammar/spelling, there will be more miscommunication and misunderstandings because online translators can't fix stupid.
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: Charlie_M on October 09, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
"Can't fix stupid."

That's me done for. 😁
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: jone on October 09, 2019, 11:36:07 PM
"Can't fix stupid."

That's me done for. 😁

Welcome to the Forum, Charlie!   

If this is your first international relationship, I have two small things that may help your conversations:

1.  Simplify your thoughts:  It is difficult enough to translate using an online translator.  But when you add in complex thoughts, your ideas go out the window.   Imagine that you're talking to a six year old and dumb down your language to that level and you should be able to get your thoughts across.

2.  Don't use humor:   Until your woman knows you well, any attempts at humor will either be lost on her or frustrate her.   An Eastern European woman who only speaks Russian will not understand the constant use of humor.   Instead, sincerity and appropriateness are the watchwords.

As our friend Too Tall Bill would say:   Udachi!

Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: southernX on October 10, 2019, 12:05:37 AM
gday charlie

mate agree with jone aboves suggestions

id also ask you to consider very carefully if you wish to add that extra degree of difficulty to your search ?

there are loads of very suitable females  online , that already have a level of english in their vocabulary who could make you a wonderfull life partner ...i would suggest you target them

of course others will come here and advise they have had success with anon english speaker and you can overcome that , which is true , however this expedition is hard enough no need imo to add extra to the degree of difficulty , and once you do contact and start conversation with anon english speaker  if your a decent guy  you will feel obliged to keep it going

thee are lots of pitfalls and stress point along this journey , communication is key to how you both understand them , address them and resolve them as you go along

just my thoughts for you charlie to mull over mate
pm if you wish at any time

regards SX
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: Charlie_M on October 10, 2019, 12:53:40 AM
Great advice guys and thankyou.

My spoken Russian is coming along nicely so this is only a question of communicating the more complex issues in written form. I've decided to use a professional translator as/when/if needed.

I'm also a "roll the dice" kinda guy so if this comes up double six, bonus. If not, plenty of other fish in the sea as they say. :)
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: 2tallbill on October 10, 2019, 02:27:33 AM
Welcome to the Forum, Charlie!   

If this is your first international relationship, I have two small things that may help your conversations:

1.  Simplify your thoughts:  It is difficult enough to translate using an online translator.  But when you add in complex thoughts, your ideas go out the window.   Imagine that you're talking to a six year old and dumb down your language to that level and you should be able to get your thoughts across.

2.  Don't use humor:   Until your woman knows you well, any attempts at humor will either be lost on her or frustrate her.   An Eastern European woman who only speaks Russian will not understand the constant use of humor.   Instead, sincerity and appropriateness are the watchwords.

As our friend Too Tall Bill would say:   Udachi!

Here is another tip.

When you translate something to Russian, copy and paste the result
back into the translator and translate it back to English. Was something
lost? If so then reword the original Sentence until it makes sense back
and forth.

Udachi!

Bill
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: Charlie_M on October 10, 2019, 04:46:39 AM
Here is another tip.

When you translate something to Russian, copy and paste the result
back into the translator and translate it back to English. Was something
lost? If so then reword the original Sentence until it makes sense back
and forth.

Udachi!

Bill

Yes that's great advice too, thanks Bill. I normally do this using translators for any language.
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: msmob on October 10, 2019, 05:31:58 AM
Dear Charles,

15 years ago, when my Russian might have been around your level, I met a good-looking, smart and and intelligent lady from Volgograd.

She spoke v.little English and our letters suggested a future, but it was useless when we walked around - without Anya or other folks to translate and she was looking after two elderly parents - now deceased - and I knew she would never leave Russia.

We've kept in contact and I followed her niece's progress studying medicine and they are the subject of a fun thread - re a 'beauty contest' of Doctors  ..http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=23989.msg519550#msg519550 (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=23989.msg519550#msg519550)


After that experience, I vowed to find someone who would try to learn English and would be prepared to leave the FSU


Fifteen years on - with Google translate and smart phones -  the opportunities to avoid long silences are much reduced.


The advice re keeping sentences short and doing reverse translations is sound.

Good luck

Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: GenMish on October 10, 2019, 08:08:37 AM
I know a young Russian fellow in Moscow, BEST English I have ever encountered by a Russian

He has is own translation service
$40 /hr negotiable

Believe me, he is a steal at $40/hr

If anyone is interested, PM me and I will give you his Viber
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: Grumpy on October 13, 2019, 12:09:09 PM
I have good luck using " imtranslator.net". Sometimes, running a message through different translation programs will add clarity. Of course nothing will help if bad spelling, typos, slang, or mixed languages are present. :welcome:
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: 2tallbill on October 13, 2019, 12:29:28 PM
I know a young Russian fellow in Moscow, BEST English I have ever
encountered by a Russian

He has is own translation service
$40 /hr negotiable

Believe me, he is a steal at $40/hr

If anyone is interested, PM me and I will give you his Viber

That's a nice endorsement. I want to hand out an endorsement
as well.

AnastasiaAsh a member here doesn't even have an accent. You
would never know that she was born, raised and studied English
there. (She's probably a secret agent)

She did some translation of official documents for me and tried
to charge me far too little for her work. I paid her extra.

http://www.regaltranslations.com/
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: 2tallbill on October 13, 2019, 12:48:46 PM
Of course nothing will help if bad spelling, typos, slang, or mixed
languages are present. :welcome:

+100

Note: This isn't in reference to the OP. 

But, Grumpy hit the nail on the head.

Some guys write at a second grade level and what makes
it worse is that they refuse to even proofread what they
write before posting.

Those guys are going to find communicating with an FSUW 
a real challenge. It's also likely that a well educated FSUW
will just dump them after reading a few paragraphs of their
prose. They consider men who write poorly and incorrectly
as having excellent occupational opportunities such as grave
diggers or vagrants.

Writing incorrectly is NOT ALLOWED in Russian schools and
FSUW will think considerably less of you if you write poorly.


Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: msmob on October 16, 2019, 11:15:14 AM
Totally disagree.

My Russian is about a three year old level, but I wrote in English and Russian to prospects and quickly moved to to video chat.

NEVER had one prospect 'reject' me based on the STD of my 'Russian'.



Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: 2tallbill on October 16, 2019, 02:08:41 PM
Totally disagree.

My Russian is about a three year old level, but I wrote in English and Russian to prospects and quickly moved to to video chat.

NEVER had one prospect 'reject' me based on the STD of my 'Russian'.

If you wrote like an idiot in English they would think you are an idiot.
If you write
Hey their gurl, whatcha doin?
They will assume you have crap for brains and send you to the crap bin.
That's what I was talking about.

If you try to communicate in Russian they will extend every courtesy
and make every effort to help and understand you. They will cheer
your efforts, you will be a hero.   

Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: Trenchcoat on October 16, 2019, 02:35:42 PM
Hello Everyone,

Thank you all for this forum and the useful tips and info. This is my first post.

I've been speaking to a lady in Belarus (originally from Russia). She speaks no English and my Russian is only very basic conversational. We have been emailing each other trying to use Google translate but the language is personal and complex so we are both having difficulties and finding it frustrating.

I suggested using a third party translator but this lady didn't like the idea and I respect her wishes.

Can anyone suggest a good online translation service, from English to Russian and Russian to English?

Thankyou!

One girl I was messaging last year from Belarus whose English was not good had a problem with ',' comma's. She didn't seem to know what they were, lol or why they were there. In the end I tried to avoid using comma's and just tried to use shirt sentences without the need for comma's. It took some effort on my part to avoid using them as I naturally write long sentences with comma's.

Other points mentioned here are good also. Google Translate I have found translates some Russian phrases well while other translators don't, but in general it can be not that good overall at translating Russian phrases. I found this out in a trip to Minsk last year, using the translator with general members of the public. Most of them were left scaring their head at the translation lol. So other translators can be better in general. Like someone said switching between two can be useful. I now only use Google Translate where another online Translator has difficulty and with that stuff it tends to come up with better for some reason.

That all said I would say that while a online Translator with a decent overall translation ability is needed so is the need to read between the lines of the translation. While sometimes it's complete gobbledegook other times the general gist of what is being said can be realised.
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: msmob on October 16, 2019, 02:49:28 PM

If you try to communicate in Russian they will extend every courtesy
and make every effort to help and understand you. They will cheer
your efforts, you will be a hero.

Quite ..

Not quite sure if I understand.. seems another Beel is posting !
Title: Re: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: Boethius on October 16, 2019, 06:47:48 PM
Writing incorrectly is NOT ALLOWED in Russian schools and
FSUW will think considerably less of you if you write poorly.


HAHAHA.  You obviously don't read Russian language newspapers or the comments sections in them.  The language is atrocious.  But, I suspect that's generational.


This post was composed without the aid of google.



Title: Translation services from English to Russian and Russian to English
Post by: 2tallbill on October 19, 2019, 07:55:20 AM
Quite ..

Not quite sure if I understand.. seems another Beel is posting !

If you are a native English speaker, like many of the men here on
the board and you write using terrible English, spelling, grammar
etc. they will consider you uneducated AND have difficulty
understanding/translating. If you are writing/communicating in
poor Russian they will be far more lenient, because you are trying
to use their language.