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RWD Discussion Groups => Scammers and Suspect Agencies => Topic started by: iloveukrayinkas on April 09, 2020, 09:38:46 PM

Title: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 09, 2020, 09:38:46 PM
Hi there fellow bride seekers!
Long time I've been away but still interested in finding a beautiful, decent ukranian woman for marriage.
Just about 6 months ago I was looking for a new marriage agency in ukraine and found this one
Ladadate.com . First I looked for reviews of the site and found some good references in a couple of sites, but
I don't know if they could be shills.
Site jabber, I think, hsa many bad reviews about it but they assure that it is not a scam agency.
At first I didn't get too much spam mail but after using it for a while, favoriting some models and  sending out winks
and stuff, my inbox started to get filled up. Not so much as in your usual scam website but I did receive a decent
amount of mails from the very girls I showed interest for.
You may immediately come to a conclusion about it but at least I don't see an exaggerated amount of emails coming in,
the prices seem reasonable and they even offer you the option of BUYING the direct contact information of the lady
after completing certain amount of communications with the lady.
Still, there is the possibility of her not wanting to correspond to you via direct email and pull you back
into the website if her english level is low.
Perhaps someone here has a review or opinion I could use.
TBH I did buy some credits in the beginning to get access to some videos of ladies who I found very compelling
and the price of viewing each video is about $6 each.  :popcorn:
I did find the videos to be of good quality and found value in them as I was able to
corroborate how the lady actually looks like, as many of the photos on many of these sites are photoshopped or airbrushed.
One of the ladies I liked who is 33, actually seems like that age when viewed in the video but when looking at her profile
pictures you would think she's just 27 or 28, so it's worth the investment I believe.

Well, that's about it for now. Tell me what you think!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on April 09, 2020, 09:46:20 PM

If a woman really likes you, she'd want to communicate with you away from the agency to save your money and keep you away from the other girls.

Does the current events worry you? Kind of a bad time to look for an international relationship considering all the travel bans.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 09, 2020, 10:25:11 PM
If a woman really likes you, she'd want to communicate with you away from the agency to save your money and keep you away from the other girls.

Does the current events worry you? Kind of a bad time to look for an international relationship considering all the travel bans.

Haha Kind of!
You're right. The thing is I'm usually too busy with work when things are normal not like now with a worldwide quarintine going on
so I think this was a good moment for me to look into it further.
I have a small business but just recently started another one and it's been hectic. Not to mention I've had several
unscrupulous people working with me and had to fire them and start operations all over again.
Anyway, I'm hoping this current state of panic and emergency doesn't last long so I could perhaps find 2 or 3 good options
in ukraine before I even consider going all the way there.  I would call it  my field work.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 10, 2020, 10:42:24 AM
Haha Kind of!

Anyway, I'm hoping this current state of panic and emergency doesn't last long so I could perhaps find 2 or 3 good options
in ukraine before I even consider going all the way there.  I would call it  my field work.

There is no time like the present, a thousand unforeseen circumstances may interrupt
you at a future time. If the corona zombie apocalypse doesn't kill us all then there
will surely be a pretty and interesting girl worth pursuing somewhere in this world.
Why not start looking for her today?


Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on April 10, 2020, 10:53:12 AM
I'm usually too busy with work when things are normal not like now with a worldwide quarintine going on
so I think this was a good moment for me to look into it further.


You can build a solid friendship with a woman through phone, skype and other apps on the phone. Make sure she enjoys communicating with you before deciding to meet with her. I usually don't recommend a neutral place to meet on a first visit but you may consider it if it's the only place that doesn't ban or quarantines the citizens of both your nations. Pick a play where you both don't have to wait for visa approval. Buy your tickets right before you go. Travel rules can change quickly
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 14, 2020, 02:37:12 PM
There is no time like the present, a thousand unforeseen circumstances may interrupt
you at a future time. If the corona zombie apocalypse doesn't kill us all then there
will surely be a pretty and interesting girl worth pursuing somewhere in this world.
Why not start looking for her today?

Very true tall bill! Can't dwell on the future too much, even more so now that things turned out
so ugly. Right now I live in the United states , I was fed up with girls from my own country to tell
you turth, and girls here are much finer, haven't scouted all my options thoroughly here tbh, so I'm not
discarding this option either, like you say, but for some reason I have more faith in finding a traditional
value partner all the way there in FSU. 

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You can build a solid friendship with a woman through phone, skype and other apps on the phone.
Make sure she enjoys communicating with you before deciding to meet with her. I usually don't
recommend a neutral place to meet on a first visit but you may consider it if it's the only place
that doesn't ban or quarantines the citizens of both your nations. Pick a play where you both don't
have to wait for visa approval. Buy your tickets right before you go. Travel rules can change quickly

Yeah, I believe that too, if there isn't a definitive chemistry I guess it's not worth to go see just
her. Unless you have other options in hand when you get there. I was thinking Ukraine Singles,
i thinks its affiliated to afa, which manages tours to several cities and gathers dozens of beautiful
, young and single ladies for Socials and Parties for eligible bachelors.

One of the chicks from Kiev I'm corresponding with now says she likes Japan and would like to go
there for the first time. She was even suggesting she wanted to go with me! Yes, I know what you
are thinking... She wants me to pay for her airfare and accomodations but no. She says she has
an incredible job and she can pay her way. Well, if that be the case then I could plan something.
The best idea would be to share travel costs like accomodations, taxis/ubers, food expenses etc.
 
The only danger I see is if she is one of those girls who like to take advantage of guys and
want to string you along. First they can tell you everything is all right, that they earn good money
or have their savings and that they can even pay for you. So you get confident. After that they either tell
you they will pay back the money later or make up some
lame excuse like their paycheck had no funds. It has happpend to me before, and it doesn't even
have to be an FSU woman to get you scammed believe me! Fortunately it wasn't a lot of money but
I saw through the scheme or this type of scam. Believe me, they can get pretty creative!!

Back in guatemala I was scammed by 2 or 3 crazy byotchs who were mostly interested in money,
liked me to invite them to expensive dinners or restaurants and one even asked me to lend her
some money, which obviously never came back! I think I'm starting to understand some things as
female nature and not just "ukranian scammer" or "russian schemes". You can find this sort of
things everywhere in the world! So no need to throw so much heat to FSU women or russians in
particular.

K, I'll be posting updates with my experience on this agency here and if I find anything suspicious.

Cheers bros!

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on April 14, 2020, 03:33:03 PM
Hi.

I took a look and my first impression is...run away.  Run Forest, Run. 

Right now, at 3 AM Ukraine time, there are 16 pages of women online and available for chat.  That's 240 women available for you to spend your credits on. 

I also took a look at some of the profiles.  A 21 year old interested in a man from age 30-70?  A 28 year old looking for the same age range?  Oh, and a more reasonable range of 25-60 year old man for a hot 25 year old in Kiev...oh brother.

I would suggest saving your money and use fdate or dmnotify and get real contacts.  Chat now and line up potential visits this summer, or as some here have suggested, wait until you're 2 weeks to 4 weeks from travelling and then line up some meetings.

There are many trip reports here from those who have successfully found their partners - take a look and maybe one or two will resonate with you.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: LAman on April 14, 2020, 04:39:08 PM
Very true tall bill! Can't dwell on the future too much, even more so now that things turned out
so ugly. Right now I live in the United states , I was fed up with girls from my own country to tell
you turth, and girls here are much finer, haven't scouted all my options thoroughly here tbh, so I'm not
discarding this option either, like you say, but for some reason I have more faith in finding a traditional
value partner all the way there in FSU. 

Yeah, I believe that too, if there isn't a definitive chemistry I guess it's not worth to go see just
her. Unless you have other options in hand when you get there. I was thinking Ukraine Singles,
i thinks its affiliated to afa, which manages tours to several cities and gathers dozens of beautiful
, young and single ladies for Socials and Parties for eligible bachelors.

One of the chicks from Kiev I'm corresponding with now says she likes Japan and would like to go
there for the first time. She was even suggesting she wanted to go with me! Yes, I know what you
are thinking... She wants me to pay for her airfare and accomodations but no. She says she has
an incredible job and she can pay her way. Well, if that be the case then I could plan something.
The best idea would be to share travel costs like accomodations, taxis/ubers, food expenses etc.
 
The only danger I see is if she is one of those girls who like to take advantage of guys and
want to string you along. First they can tell you everything is all right, that they earn good money
or have their savings and that they can even pay for you. So you get confident. After that they either tell
you they will pay back the money later or make up some
lame excuse like their paycheck had no funds. It has happpend to me before, and it doesn't even
have to be an FSU woman to get you scammed believe me! Fortunately it wasn't a lot of money but
I saw through the scheme or this type of scam. Believe me, they can get pretty creative!!

Back in guatemala I was scammed by 2 or 3 crazy byotchs who were mostly interested in money,
liked me to invite them to expensive dinners or restaurants and one even asked me to lend her
some money, which obviously never came back! I think I'm starting to understand some things as
female nature and not just "ukranian scammer" or "russian schemes". You can find this sort of
things everywhere in the world! So no need to throw so much heat to FSU women or russians in
particular.

K, I'll be posting updates with my experience on this agency here and if I find anything suspicious.

Cheers bros!

You really gotta change your attitude. You don't sound very serious...Ö. more happy-go-lucky!!
You don't sound very realistic in your expectations or what your 're looking for based on what you've
written here. You have been scammed before, hopefully won't happen again or will it ???
Don't look in the mirror, I would hate for you to see an 'L' on forehead!!!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Davo on April 15, 2020, 11:01:20 AM
I joined Ladadate when you first posted, but didnít pay for credits. My impression is itís like every other PPL site. Iím getting unsolicited messages from young women who are stunningly attractive and have no business with an older guy in his 40ís like me.....Most look like prodaters / employed agency girls. Itís almost a guarantee that the messages arenít being written by the women in the profiles.

If you see women like those on Lada, Iíd avoid the site like the plague (pic below). Listen to Steveís advice.... Fdating and DM is where itís at to meet genuine women if youíre realistic. Iíd try fdating first (watch for scammers who contact you first and want to go straight to email) and let us know how you find it.



Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 15, 2020, 08:42:34 PM
Hi.

I took a look and my first impression is...run away.  Run Forest, Run. 

Right now, at 3 AM Ukraine time, there are 16 pages of women online and available for chat.  That's 240 women available for you to spend your credits on. 

I also took a look at some of the profiles.  A 21 year old interested in a man from age 30-70?  A 28 year old looking for the same age range?  Oh, and a more reasonable range of 25-60 year old man for a hot 25 year old in Kiev...oh brother.


You are right! I noticed something strange with there being dozens of girls to chat with a couple of times,
the only difference with the big name agencies out there is that this one doesn't put it so much IN YOUR FACE
like those little chat requests coming in every second on the bottom of your page, it's a little more low profile
in that sense as you have to willfully click on the chat button at the top of the page to see them!

I also remember noticing something strange with the age ranges in which the girls are interested in, but perhaps
I got too distracted by the beautiful pictures and other things on the profiles. Most of the girls there are looking
for men from 35- 65, althoguh ive seen some even putting there up to 80!!!
The most realistic girl I found put there up to 55 yrs old, and I have to add she wasn't even one of the guns
there!(when actually the most discriminative should be the BIG GUNS)
So I guess that unless they have age range predefined when they open the profile, then you are right.
What I was imagining before with this deal is that they are open to older men as they know they
have more money and resources.

I mean there could be some there who may be legit, but if I find them online all the time and they respond to my
messages immediately then probably they're doing it as a job or have some sort of scheme going on, like the big
sites as well.
 :deadhorse:
Thanks for pointing that out Steven, none of the previous members who commented
had even suspected any of this stuff so Ill be cautious!

If you see women like those on Lada, Iíd avoid the site like the plague (pic below). Listen to Steveís advice.... Fdating and DM is where itís at to meet genuine women if youíre realistic. Iíd try fdating first (watch for scammers who contact you first and want to go straight to email) and let us know how you find it.

Attach picture again buddy, it didn't show anything.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on April 15, 2020, 09:03:07 PM
Attach picture again buddy, it didn't show anything.


I see Davo's photo fine. If you weren't logged on when reading his post, you won't be able to see it. Now that you're logged on, read his post again. If you can't see the photo, use a different browser. If you can't see the photo, I'll describe it. The photo has 4 smoking hot women with big knockers.

It's best to avoid the pay to play sites. The system is designed to milk your money. You're also probably trading intimate chats with Ivan, the employee of the month.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 16, 2020, 12:40:39 AM
I joined Ladadate when you first posted, but didnít pay for credits. My impression is itís like every other PPL site. Iím getting unsolicited messages from young women who are stunningly attractive and have no business with an older guy in his 40ís like me.....Most look like prodaters / employed agency girls. Itís almost a guarantee that the messages arenít being written by the women in the profiles.

Well, if you consider yourself a "no business with an older guy" just because you are in your 40's then you are selling yourself
short man! Look, I don't know you, perhaps you are already married and are not interested in dating or meeting young women
b/c you are already out of the market but single guy's in their 40's can still pull a girl in their 20's. I personally know a couple
and I'm sure there are many more.  :crackwhip:
Many women even say they are interested in older men, not just because of money, get that out of your head already!
OFC if you are totally naive, don't have any personality and all you have to show for yourself is your money, cars and a nice house,
and readily give women all these gifts then you should be on the lookout.

I listen to this guy Matt Cross in youtube , who has his channel about relationships and dating, and he says that many people
agree that men from 35 to 45 are on their prime. If you look at George Clooney, he was never considered Sex Symbol until
he reached his mid 40's and so on. And Matt also has students in their 40's and 50's who are still pulling young, hot
girls with the right attitude or mindset. So it all depends on you!
I remember when I was just 25 yrs old I joined a ukranian marriage agency but I didn't even have a stable job, nor
savings, now I'm 37 and have a very different outlook and possibilities compared to back then. Perhaps I had better looks
but what good are just looks if you can't even get on a plane to meet them?  :cluebat:



Right now, at 3 AM Ukraine time, there are 16 pages of women online and available for chat.  That's 240 women available for you to spend your credits on. 




It's 10:17 AM in Ukr, I found 1 page full and another 1 half full of women online available to chat. That's about 42 women
out of  659 total profiles, roughly 6%. Totally the opposite situation of what you encountered or are trying to portray. So
I don't know how accurate is your info. Still, I'll keep researching.  :popcorn:

I'm gone!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on April 16, 2020, 03:36:47 AM
Here's yet another example of a poster asking for advice and then spurning it ...( reply to Davo )   :deadhorse:

Sure, 'pull' away with your half you age gals...   

 Some of us are a tad more realistic re long term relationships ..

Nearly 18 years ago, v early 40's I got letters from '20' somethings ... they went in the round file ...  There are those that have made successful marriages from such differences - they are the outliers

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Davo on April 16, 2020, 04:04:40 AM
I just read some of your older posts from 2013 and see youíre not a beginner regarding PPL sites, so I donít have to spell out the pitfalls. I would say youíve probably done quite a lot of research already.

As far as short selling myself, I know that itís easier to date younger fsu women and after my divorced I didnít have any issues meeting younger attractive local women. I spent 6 months with a wonderful 28 year old when I was 39. Now my daughterís in her 20ís would disown me if I brought a woman home that was closer to her age than mine 😉.

The reason I said they had no business with me is because my profile didnít deserve any interest, even from older women and definitely not women like in the pic I posted. I painted a very unattractive picture of myself.....Secondly during my time in Russia, being on Russian / Ukrainian face book groups and chatting with Russian friends of both sexes, itís obvious women like that have no problems meeting successful local men their own age and are in high demand. They donít need to date online.

I helped another guy out recently by joining a PPL site he was on and used the same tactics re:-posting a bad profile with the same result.... With the help of a bored Russian mate in isolation in Ufa, we found a handful of the women who messaged on the PPL site on VK and they were married or in relationships. I suspect many women on PPL sites are and they bring in a tidy amount of $$$  to supplement their family income.

Iím not saying that youíre specifically chasing these unrealistic women, because Iíve found a few women on the site that on face value look like a reasonable prospect, but I wouldnít waste my time or money working out if they are when thereís better sites that cost nothing and lots of guys have had far more success with. 

Iíd still check out one of the best .... fdating, because it has one of the biggest memberships of genuine FSU women who are looking for foreign husbands and because itís free, you donít have to worry about the women being employees and is a good gauge to compare your experiences on PPL sites with.

Keep the updates coming, because itís been boring AF here lately with no new guys joining to  share their journey 😁
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Davo on April 16, 2020, 04:49:17 AM

 Some of us are a tad more realistic re long term relationships ..

Nearly 18 years ago, v early 40's I got letter from '20' somethings ... they went in the round file ...  There are those that have made successful marriages from such differences - they are the outliers

Moby, Iíve throughly enjoyed the company of the older FSU women Iíve spent time with (38-43) and although things are getting back on track with K, if it doesnít work out during my next trip, I wonít be dating under 40 in the future.....Iíve been through divorce once and donít want to experience that again.  I want my next marriage to have the best chance of success and I canít see that happening with a woman in her 20ís. Thereís far too many stories of relationships going south due to big age gaps .... no offence to members who have successfully pulled it off here.

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on April 16, 2020, 04:54:25 AM
Moby, Iíve throughly enjoyed my time with the older FSU women Iíve spent time with (38-43) and although things are getting back on track with K, if it doesnít work out during my next trip, I wonít be dating under 40. Iíve been through divorce once, I want my next marriage to have the best chance of success and I canít see that happening with a woman in her 20ís. There too many stories of relationships going south due to big age gaps.... no offence to those who have pulled it off here.

Good news, re K - fingers crossed...

I hope you understood I was agreeing with your advice.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Davo on April 16, 2020, 05:00:12 AM
Good news, re K - fingers crossed...

I hope you understood I was agreeing with your advice.

I understood what you were saying and agree 100%.

With K, itís still leas 50/50, in my mind. I took a step back a few months ago which has given us some clarity..... Iím hoping for a meeting with her ex next trip and then Iíll re-evaluate the situation. Iíll have a back up plan or two this time around, just in case we crash and burn.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on April 16, 2020, 05:02:47 AM
I understood what you were saying and agree 100%.

With Kís still 50/50....Iím hoping for a meeting with her ex next trip and the Iíll re-evaluate the situation. Iíll have a back up plan or two this time around, just in case we crash and burn.

Good luck and hopefully, it will not be too long before such trips are possible
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Davo on April 16, 2020, 05:04:35 AM
Good luck and hopefully, it will not be too long before such trips are possible

Thanks 👍
Title: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 16, 2020, 09:25:05 AM
Itís almost a guarantee that the messages arenít being written by the women in the profiles.

You don't think that the Camel toe girl in your photo writes her own
messages and wants to cook tasty dishes for you?

That's always the problem with Pay per view sites. I don't know how
much they charge on pay to see a girl stick a dildo in her _________
(name of orifice here) sites charge but I doubt if it's more.

Title: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 16, 2020, 09:29:54 AM
I helped another guy out recently by joining a PPL site he was on and
used the same tactics re:-posting a bad profile with the same result....

I once posted a profile of a man in an adult diaper and a baby bottle
said that I had no teeth but was an excellent kisser. I only got 10-20
messages per day from hot FSUW.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Boethius on April 16, 2020, 12:59:19 PM
Well, if you consider yourself a "no business with an older guy" just because you are in your 40's then you are selling yourself short man! Look, I don't know you, perhaps you are already married and are not interested in dating or meeting young women b/c you are already out of the market but single guy's in their 40's can still pull a girl in their 20's. I personally know a couple and I'm sure there are many more. any women even say they are interested in older men, not just because of money, get that out of your head already!


Keep telling yourself that - "smooth comforts false, worse than true wrongs".

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I listen to this guy Matt Cross in youtube , who has his channel about relationships and dating, and he says that many people agree that men from 35 to 45 are on their prime. If you look at George Clooney, he was never considered Sex Symbol until he reached his mid 40's and so on. And Matt also has students in their 40's and 50's who are still pulling young, hot girls with the right attitude or mindset. So it all depends on you!


Nope.  George Clooney became a major sex symbol when he was on ER, in 1995, when he was 33.  He was on the cover of People as "Sexiest Man Alive" in 1997. 

Google was used to confirm the above dates.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on April 16, 2020, 01:53:18 PM

It's 10:17 AM in Ukr, I found 1 page full and another 1 half full of women online available to chat. That's about 42 women
out of  659 total profiles, roughly 6%. Totally the opposite situation of what you encountered or are trying to portray. So
I don't know how accurate is your info. Still, I'll keep researching.  :popcorn:

I'm gone!

It's easy to verify what I wrote.  Log in at 3AM Ukraine time, as I stated in my post.

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 16, 2020, 02:19:58 PM

Keep telling yourself that - "smooth comforts false, worse than true wrongs".


Nope.  George Clooney became a major sex symbol when he was on ER, in 1995, when he was 33.  He was on the cover of People as "Sexiest Man Alive" in 1997. 

Google was used to confirm the above dates.

Well, you found and confirmed that info on Google, good for you. The point is this guy was still being considered
sex symbol until he was like 50 and dating some of the hottest chicks until ofc he got married and all.
Still to me any man who tells me he's 40 or 45 and says he's too old already for a 25 or 30 yr old is deluded and
doesn't have a clear grasp on things unless of course he's a loser with no job, no savings, no career, nothing to show
for himself at that age. And believe me I know a couple guys in that situation but it's because they are just lazy, passive and
don't have the drive to achieve the good things in life!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 16, 2020, 02:20:27 PM
Keep telling yourself that - "smooth comforts false, worse than true wrongs".

I 98% agree.

If a guy who is 40 pursued a single mother who was 29 it wouldn't
be crazy unreasonable. However, we all know that 40's pulling 20's
really means a 49 year old pulling a girl 19 years old about to have
a birthday in 6 months.

The first scenario isn't totally unreasonable especially if they have
other contributing factors, but since most really mean the second
scenario which is doomed 100%* of the time.





* 99.99999% rounds up to 100%
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Boethius on April 16, 2020, 02:58:55 PM
Well, you found and confirmed that info on Google, good for you. The point is this guy was still being considered
sex symbol until he was like 50 and dating some of the hottest chicks until ofc he got married and all.

Most of George Clooney's "relationships" were with hired women.  Two of his former "girlfriends" confirmed that. 

How do you know George Clooney was a sex symbol to women?  It's hype created by PR and tabloids.  Personally, I never found him attractive in his "peak" years.

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Still to me any man who tells me he's 40 or 45 and says he's too old already for a 25 or 30 yr old is deluded and doesn't have a clear grasp on things unless of course he's a loser with no job, no savings, no career, nothing to show for himself at that age. And believe me I know a couple guys in that situation but it's because they are just lazy, passive and don't have the drive to achieve the good things in life!

My daughter is in her early twenties.  She is very mature, but would find a man in his mid to late thirties "ancient" in terms of dating.  She'd view it as repulsive.  But, then again, she isn't living in a corrupt country with a per capita GDP under US$4000 annually.

This post was composed without the aid of google.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 16, 2020, 03:11:43 PM

As far as short selling myself, I know that itís easier to date younger fsu women and after my divorced I didnít have any issues meeting younger attractive local women. I spent 6 months with a wonderful 28 year old when I was 39. Now my daughterís in her 20ís would disown me if I brought a woman home that was closer to her age than mine 😉.


Lol Where have I heard that story before?


I helped another guy out recently by joining a PPL site he was on and used the same tactics re:-posting a bad profile with the same result.... With the help of a bored Russian mate in isolation in Ufa, we found a handful of the women who messaged on the PPL site on VK and they were married or in relationships. I suspect many women on PPL sites are and they bring in a tidy amount of $$$  to supplement their family income.

Iím not saying that youíre specifically chasing these unrealistic women, because Iíve found a few women on the site that on face value look like a reasonable prospect, but I wouldnít waste my time or money working out if they are when thereís better sites that cost nothing and lots of guys have had far more success with. 

Iíd still check out one of the best .... fdating, because it has one of the biggest memberships of genuine FSU women who are looking for foreign husbands and because itís free, you donít have to worry about the women being employees and is a good gauge to compare your experiences on PPL sites with.

Keep the updates coming, because itís been boring AF here lately with no new guys joining to  share their journey 😁

It's sad how far people can go as to get an extra buck to provide to their families, even to help the men
they're with because they are either failures in life and theyr'e stuck with them or they just don't have any opportunities
in a country where wages are very low.

Not to put her on the spotlight or anything, but for example, look at the girl in the attached picture.

She's not from one of those heavily mined cities in Ukraine, like they say. It's a girl from Poltava who
speaks fluent english and is not one of the hottest on the site but she's at least pretty and doesn't
look like a prodater, and there are many other options like her on this lada site.

So I guess it's a matter of using your better judgement as well when choosing who to correspond with.
You know the saying, If it looks too good to be true, it probably is!
So I guess, if she's a super hot 20 year old with "huge knockers", uses botox in her lips,
is from kiev and odessa, dresses like a goddess and doesn't mind if youre a guy is 50 yrs old or older who works
as a greeter at Walmart, then you got your red flag right there! lol

Anyway, I'll follow your advice on signing up for fdating as it can be a good reference point in my search
for a ukranian lady.
Heck! I've even been watching these crazy guys on youtube picking up girls on the streets of Kiev getting numbers
and all, which is something I'd like to try out when I get there (if I get there with all this corona craziness going on lol)
So I guess nothing is out of the question right now.

Btw, anyone here knows ukranian?

Cheers friends
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on April 16, 2020, 04:01:46 PM
Hi.

This seems like pushing string.

Good luck with your search.  If you could do us a favor?  Keep us updated.  Let us know how many contacts you made, and perhaps how much you spent on chats, videos, gifts and contact information?  It would be nice to get live information from someone using their site.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: krimster2 on April 16, 2020, 06:31:03 PM
everyone's using "Tinder" BTW
cuz you can't fake your photos there
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on April 16, 2020, 08:46:09 PM
Our OP might like to do a little more research about his 'She's  not a prodater' ... like how many nude sites she's posed for ..

Was someone speaking of judgement ?





Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: LAman on April 17, 2020, 08:07:23 AM
 Good find Moby!!! I guess there are plenty of other options for OP!!!!



She's not from one of those heavily mined cities in Ukraine, like they say. It's a girl from Poltava who
speaks fluent english and is not one of the hottest on the site but she's at least pretty and doesn't
look like a prodater, and...Ö..


ÖÖ.. there are many other options like her on this lada site.

 
 
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on April 17, 2020, 09:24:07 AM

Okay, so we know what she looks like on the outside except for the parts Moby blacked out. But what about the inside? Read her profile. She's kind, charming, romantic and sensitive. She also said we will be impressed with her personality and character. Could she be into fake news? I doubt she even knows her profile is on a dating/marriage site. The owner of the site may have lifted the photos off a site selling sex since good wholesome family oriented women don't show much skin. The owner knows men like to think with their little heads when looking for love.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: lyndontom on April 17, 2020, 01:46:32 PM
I'm not sure that Poltava isn't one of those 'heavily mined' Cities either. I'm pretty sure that after Kyiv and Odessa, Poltava and Kherson are the preferred destinations of these MOB singles tours.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on April 17, 2020, 09:54:25 PM
And Nikolaev/Mykolaiv.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on April 18, 2020, 12:41:03 AM
, Iíd avoid the site like the plague

Davo added  four photos

Olga 26, is also to be found as Irina ( 20 yrs ) from Odesa

Elizaveta 24, is more likely a model from Moscow called Elena of the same age


The lady bottom left, has had her photo taken from the same Dior show that 'Elizaveta's' was grabbed from


Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 20, 2020, 11:47:02 PM
Our OP might like to do a little more research about his 'She's  not a prodater' ... like how many nude sites she's posed for ..

Was someone speaking of judgement ?

Good one man! Seems you're one step ahead of the game.  Ireally didn't expect that!
BUt if you go to her profile on THIS site, you will see it seems very LOW KEY. No provocative
pics or anything too alarming... That's why I pointed that out but never thought of doing a
google research or anything.

The profile only has 2 pictures in rather decent poses and she didn't seem like a prodater or anything.
 :cluebat:
watch attachment below
It's easy to verify what I wrote.  Log in at 3AM Ukraine time, as I stated in my post.



My boy Steve! Seems I was searching with the wrong criteria. The site actually has the filters
or criteria somewhat hidden and apparently I was only searching for 20 something year olds, so
there were many others that were online as well. About 141 as i was able to verify at 11:30 PM
California time.

Seems you guys are right, this place seems like a mined field. The site or agency makes it so that
even if you want to correspond with just 2 or 3 girls for backup, you are tempted to write to
dozens of them because your inbox keeps filling with about 10 new emails every day.
I think I'll just try and see what happens with one of the girls Im corresponding with who hasn't
given many signals of being a prodater, but if I find them I'll just do what the other friend said:
RUN FORREST RUN!!


Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on April 21, 2020, 01:21:55 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble, mate !



Your 'girls' photos are from FEMJOY and five years ( or more ) old.

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 21, 2020, 10:30:35 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, mate !



Your 'girls' photos are from FEMJOY and five years ( or more ) old.

Sheesh!!!!
Well, and do you have access to the site's premium? Or how did you find this one?
I think that's the only way to check out
all the girls and see if the ones im corresponding with are prodaters/ porn girls.

At least the ones I'm corresponding with right now are not found on other marriage agencies
and I don't find them with search criterias in Google. ANy other ideas you might have?

There's this guy Richardson of match guaranty who says he performs a FREE scam Check for any
girl you might be writing/corresponding with. I might want to give it a try later on I guess.

Cheers
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on April 21, 2020, 11:21:29 PM
Sheesh!!!!
Well, and do you have access to the site's premium? Or how did you find this one?
I think that's the only way to check out
all the girls and see if the ones im corresponding with are prodaters/ porn girls.

At least the ones I'm corresponding with right now are not found on other marriage agencies
and I don't find them with search criterias in Google. ANy other ideas you might have?

There's this guy Richardson of match guaranty who says he performs a FREE scam Check for any
girl you might be writing/corresponding with. I might want to give it a try later on I guess.

Cheers

I most certainly don't have prem. access.. I'm a married guy ;) I simply used the screengrab you posted.

Google will miss images from many FSU sites

I have long used Google AND Yandex image search

Six years ago I saw some images of my wife on a dating profiles she hadn't  logged in to and I knew writing to her there would be a waste of time ...

... I did what she calls my 'Sherlock Holmes' and found her on a social media site.


I'm sure that's all these folks that have the cheek to charge for a 'scam check' do... 

To be fair 'your', now at least 5 years older than those photos show, lass might not know she is on a dating site and be happily married





Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 22, 2020, 05:46:46 AM
Sheesh!!!!

I would avoid pay per view, pay by the letter and pay to chat sites
altogether. A monthly fee or free sites reduce the temptation for
the site to put up fake profiles themselves and pay people to
write to their members.

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 22, 2020, 10:16:21 PM
I would avoid pay per view, pay by the letter and pay to chat sites
altogether. A monthly fee or free sites reduce the temptation for
the site to put up fake profiles themselves and pay people to
write to their members.

So you think there are absolutely no real women writing the correspondence themselves?

I think that it's also a matter of luck and awareness. I know that some agencies have people hired
to write these letters on behalf of the photos and some do a really good job at faking the conversations.
It seems guys signing up for these services have gotten a lot smarter nowadays and even ask the ladies
to perform a certain pose or do some type of handsign to demonstrate that it's themselves writing these
letters. I have 1 letter I received about a month ago of a lady saying that she could do the hand sign that
i requested as many guys had already asked her to do it to avoid being CATFISHED!!!

I have a ukranian friend(guy) who used to teach me ukranian back in the day.
I remember I was using anastasiaRape at that time and
pretty much got scammed by one of the profiles. "She" or whatever used to send me nice pictures
and the letters seemed very tailor made, not prefabricated and also, there was no asking for money
for several months so I thought I wasn't being scammed.
When I sent the lady a postcard to her address, she never received it , according to her(well after like
3 months after I sent it). Several times I tried calling her with the help of a translator but she was never to be reached and
I even gave her my email addresses so she could continue communicating with me before I closed
my account because after the calls I discoverd it was all a fake.
The thing is that I told this friend about what happened to me with this so called marriage agency and
he told me that it "could be possible" to find a girlfriend in one of these sites, but that the whole place
was mined and finding a legit one would be like finding a needle in a haystack.
I think any way you look at it, I'm not even spending that big of a deal on credits, my business does well
(when there is no pandemic ofc) and I'm thinking that it could be worth a shot if I invest a coouple credits here
and there to see if perhaps I find something worthwhile. Although you state that the whole
PPL PPChat thing is a NO NO, this site does allow you acquiring the DIRECT contact information of the lady
if you so desire. So if that doesn't work I guess I'll know for sure it's a scam.

Bam on!!

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Grumpy on April 22, 2020, 10:30:31 PM
Do you also buy lottery tickets? Your chances of getting lucky are about the same.
If you can afford it and are having fun, carry on. But don't expect to find a wife there.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on April 23, 2020, 12:49:43 AM


I think any way you look at it, I'm not even spending that big of a deal on credits, my business does well
(when there is no pandemic ofc) and I'm thinking that it could be worth a shot if I invest a coouple credits here
and there to see if perhaps I find something worthwhile. Although you state that the whole
PPL PPChat thing is a NO NO, this site does allow you acquiring the DIRECT contact information of the lady
if you so desire. So if that doesn't work I guess I'll know for sure it's a scam.

Bam on!!

Ple-EASE,

Haven't you been listening .. ? You are wasting your time on this site ..  WHY are you giving money to a site where you already know the girls are not who / what  are 'represented' ?

I suspect this is from the same family of sites that you mention 'rape' ..


Get on one where you pay a monthly fee and write to real ladies



Title: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 23, 2020, 10:01:12 AM
So you think there are absolutely no real women writing the correspondence themselves?

No, I didn't say that. I've met real women from pay per letter sites.
There are also women who will string you along for the money. Why
deal with that?



I think that it's also a matter of luck and awareness. I know that some
agencies have people hiredto write these letters on behalf of the photos
and some do a really good job at faking the conversations.

It seems guys signing up for these services have gotten a lot smarter
nowadays and even ask the ladies to perform a certain pose or do
some type of handsign to demonstrate that it's themselves writing these
letters.

You are wrongly assuming in this case that most of the lady(ies) aren't
involved in separating you from your money. What if she gets a commission?

Some girls at these sites are fake, some are complicit and others are
genuine. Avoid the pay by the letter sites is my advice.




PPL PPChat thing is a NO NO, this site does allow you acquiring the DIRECT
contact information of the lady if you so desire. So if that doesn't work I
guess I'll know for sure it's a scam.

Bam on!!

A good girl will want to communicate with you without you having to pay.
She will treat your money just like her own.

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: jone on April 23, 2020, 10:20:09 AM
I don't know how many times fellow posters tell this guy, but it doesn't seem to sink in.   Go to Elena's models.   Go to FDating.  These are not ripoff sites.   You'd be able to create an online relationship with these women having so much time on their hands.   

But pay-per-view and pay-per-chats are simply rip offs whereby women (and some men operating women's profiles) are there solely for your money.

If you read my history, you'd see that I went through this.   And I even have some clues if you are interested.   If you use a PPC site, the first thing is to find women who have not been on the system long.  If they have been on the system for awhile, that profile is being operated by someone other than the girl in the picture.

The second key is that you can get messages to a woman to get her to meet you away from the site.  Simply put your email on the system.   Do this as separate messages like:   Charlie Dot Tuna At Undersea Dot Com.  The women who actually want to meet you will send you an email.   But if they show resistance (or feign stupidity) then move on to the next one.

I met some incredibly beautiful women this way. 

But I will tell you that most of the women are now past using PPC sites.   The company takes too much of the money.   If you go to a subscription site, the women there have a more difficult time separating you from your greenbacks.  And the House isn't trying to get them to rip you off.   Hey.  I have met these women who work at the PPC sites.  They all have second level interest Western Union Numbers, etc.  They know all of the tricks to get your funds.

You seem to want the eye candy first.   Try this site.  It is subscription, but probably a third of the women are there as prodaters.   But it is better than the 90% on PPC sites:   www.travelgirls.com
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 23, 2020, 10:37:39 AM
Charlie Dot Tuna At Undersea Dot Com.  The women who actually want to meet you will send you an email.   But if they show resistance (or feign stupidity) then move on to the next one.

I met some incredibly beautiful women this way. 

But I will tell you that most of the women are now past using PPC sites.   The company takes too much of the money.   If you go to a subscription site, the women there have a more difficult time separating you from your greenbacks.  And the House isn't trying to get them to rip you off.   Hey.  I have met these women who work at the PPC sites.  They all have second level interest Western Union Numbers, etc.  They know all of the tricks to get your funds.

I've met women using similar tactics during chat I've met women by sending my
phone number. Hi! I'm Bill 415 and would like 555 to talk to you sometime
1212 on the phone. What do you think 415? because I would like 555 to
hear your 1212 voice. I would get a two ring phone call and call them back.

Another thing is to find the girl at her vk.com and send her a note. Any girl
who isn't interested in communicating with you dump them and block them.

You are interested in the site because hotter girls are interested in you than
in other sites it's because they have better more professionally taken photos
or they are getting a commission. 


Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: jone on April 23, 2020, 11:00:48 AM
I've met women using similar tactics during chat I've met women by sending my
phone number. Hi! I'm Bill 415 and would like 555 to talk to you sometime
1212 on the phone. What do you think 415? because I would like 555 to
hear your 1212 voice. I would get a two ring phone call and call them back.

Another thing is to find the girl at her vk.com and send her a note. Any girl
who isn't interested in communicating with you dump them and block them.

You are interested in the site because hotter girls are interested in you than
in other sites it's because they have better more professionally taken photos
or they are getting a commission.

LOL.   I have witnessed the photo shoots.   The gals have a 'minder' from the PPC sites.   It is her job to get the most out of the PPC site's investment.   Typically a PPC site will pay for the pictures to be taken.   One gal I met looked nothing like her online pics.   They had been photo shopped so much that she was unrecognizable.

Some women have their profiles created just to get the free pics.   The profile is operated, from the onset, by Hairy Boris.   Imagine him putting sweet nothings in your ear.   Yummmy!
Title: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 23, 2020, 02:07:19 PM
LOL.   I have witnessed the photo shoots.   The gals have a 'minder' from the PPC sites.   It is her job to get the most out of the PPC site's investment.   Typically a PPC site will pay for the pictures to be taken.   One gal I met looked nothing like her online pics.   They had been photo shopped so much that she was unrecognizable.

Some women have their profiles created just to get the free pics.   The profile is operated, from the onset, by Hairy Boris.   Imagine him putting sweet nothings in your ear.   Yummmy!

Exactly, again a video chat would ensure that she is somewhat current,
but a hottie can be simultaneously chatting with 2-3 dewds for each Terp.
They sit there talking about their nails and the weather and the terps
chat with you. A hot chick goes in to the agency at midnight local time
dressed to kill and spends all night there talking to various men.

She says she's a secretary, accountant or something but she leaves at
7 am to go to sleep. She does this 3-5 days a week, how could she keep
a regular job? Plus you gotta figure she needs one or two nights a week so
she can bang her local boyfriend.

Even hardened veterans like Jone, Jumper or myself advise newbies to
steer clear from these places or to snap them up and get them off the site.

There are many risks that I haven't told you about that I've deftly 
sidestepped because I saw it coming from a mile away. Even the good girls
at these sites know that there are bad girls who work there.

So if you wish to dip your toe in this swamp of snakes, alligators and
piranha's looking for your true love keep your eyes open and your wits
about you or you too can be chewed up and spit out.

That's why we advise avoiding these types of sites.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Davo on April 23, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
Jone, your comment reminded me of one of Elenas models blogs regarding PPL sites.

http://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/why-are-you-so-against-ppl-sites/

It will take the OP some searching, but in her blogs are two incriminating links....One is an advert for women to sign up and be paid commissions for talking to men.... The other is a forum used by PPL employees (several thousand pages) where they discuss their job and itís very easy to see itís nothing to do with finding a foreign man and all to do with making money. Itís been a while since I read it, but I remember reading a post were women were laughing at their companies gullible victims, because most already had husband and boyfriends and were happy they didnít have to talk to the ďdisgustingĒ men their profile manager was talking to on their behalf.


Edit..... This link is interesting and lists Ladadate as a corrupt site.
http://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/ppl-dating/

In the above link I found the forum. Thereís months of reading if you have time, but it should take less than a minute to see how corrupt the PPL sites are.
http://forumodua.com/archive/index.php?t-103036-p-3.html



 
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 26, 2020, 12:25:06 AM
Hey guys, thanks for the tips, Check this out! One of the ladies at LADA sent me this message.
I've also received several eerie messages from some other girls:

Hello... You probably already found your soul mate here ... If not, then I would like to know
 each other better .. do you pay attention to girls of my age? (she's 29) Do you have trust in such girls?(the girls in LADA)
I'm new and I see that there are a lot of men very careful on the site and do
 not believe much ... what's the reason?


Iíll tell you a few words about me ...
I'm a very sensual girl who is looking for true love. No cheating on me, no betrayals, no abusive attitude...
I hope to find romantic, caring man with good sense of humor, reliable and respectful...I am really tired of cruelty!
And what are your hopes?


To which I would respond: "Well, I think it's self evident my love! So many guys have been scammed before, so like the saying
goes  "the honourable end up paying the same as the sinners!" "

I read that one of the previous comments said something about seasoned profiles, or women who've been long in
these PPL or PPC sites that they already know how to separate you from your green backs, but the new, the uncorrupted
girls who perhaps are really interested in a foreigner and that go to these sites find themselves competing against
these other sharks that they scratch their heads wanting to know what to do to gain our trust.

These are dangerous waters and many brides are starting to be aware!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on April 26, 2020, 01:17:35 AM
I see a few red flags in that message:

"attention to girls of my age"
"sensual girl"
"no cheating, no betrayals"

Also, she really didn't say much about herself or what she's looking for.  Very generic.

I saw a vlog today about someone in Ukraine right now.  He was wondering what the date scammer girls/pro daters from Odessa and other cities are doing now that they have no tourists to scam.  Also all the call girls without customers.  Maybe they are joining these online PPL/PPC sites?

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 26, 2020, 02:08:02 AM
You can bet your ass they are! Someone seeing their main source of income
dissipate just like that has to do something else to survive or at least cope
up with a little of what they spend!!
How big is the escort business in UA with foreigners you know?
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on April 28, 2020, 06:20:07 PM
Dear "iloveukrayinkas", I know youre very careful about dating online.
I had read many stories, some even scam and hurt stories. I also had my own,and wanted to give up on my search.
It was when I came to other country, but man didnt appear.
but I want to find my love..
I am real, serious. I am really sad about other slavic women that are hunting for sugar daddy or some material things.
I dont need it! I am sure you also had bad experience...but I want to prove you that real women still here.
I am open for serious dates and meetings.
how about you?
LADAdate bride


One of the letters I received not long ago. You think they are sending these kinds
of letters for you to let your guard down or could
some of them actually be sincere?
It seems some of them have like psychic powers or sth! haha
I mean I could give it a shot, like tallbill says to send just 1 message with my phone
or email encrypted on it and see what happens.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Davo on April 28, 2020, 09:15:44 PM
If these women are contacting you first, keep in mind that Iíve only had two genuine women contact me first and the other 50+ were scammers.

Genuine women who like you will give their whatsapp, Skype etc... details within a couple of days of meeting online and will ask to video chat soon after. If that goes well, within a few weeks youíll be chatting most days and video chatting several times a week.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on April 28, 2020, 09:28:08 PM
Dear "iloveukrayinkas", I know youre very careful about dating online.
I had read many stories, some even scam and hurt stories. I also had my own,and wanted to give up on my search.
It was when I came to other country, but man didnt appear.
but I want to find my love..
I am real, serious. I am really sad about other slavic women that are hunting for sugar daddy or some material things.
I dont need it! I am sure you also had bad experience...but I want to prove you that real women still here.
I am open for serious dates and meetings.
how about you?
LADAdate bride



It's a canned agency letter. Real women don't write like that.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 29, 2020, 10:23:32 AM
If these women are contacting you first, keep in mind that Iíve only had two genuine women contact me first and the other 50+ were scammers.

Genuine women who like you will give their whatsapp, Skype etc... details within a couple of days of meeting online and will ask to video chat soon after. If that goes well, within a few weeks youíll be chatting most days and video chatting several times a week.



I've had hundreds of genuine women contact me first but most
were either old, fat, cross eyed, ugly or worse. If you have a
hot young thing send a message to you unsolicited then it
would be wise to be highly skeptical or her genuineness 
and her motivations.

Absolutely a good girl will want to chat with you away from the
forum ESPECIALLY if it costs you a single Kopeck to do it.

A good girl is what you are looking for and they will want to
see your face and hear your voice. A good girl wants you to
seduce her and win her heart.



Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: ML on April 29, 2020, 11:15:26 AM
A good girl wants you to seduce her and win her heart.

I want to relax and be seduced.

An equal opportunity male.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on April 29, 2020, 11:57:55 AM
A good girl who occasionally has dirty thoughts?  Best of both?

Reminds me of one weekend afternoon when on the couch watching a video, when T came over and got on top...
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: ML on April 29, 2020, 12:30:59 PM
A good girl who occasionally has dirty thoughts?  Best of both?

Reminds me of one weekend afternoon when on the couch watching a video, when T came over and got on top...

On top of the couch ?

Could she balance without too much danger ?
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 29, 2020, 01:56:16 PM
I want to relax and be seduced.

An equal opportunity male.

Then marry a good girl and it will happen from time to time.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on May 02, 2020, 07:21:57 AM
On top of the couch ?

Could she balance without too much danger ?

One of those couches with reclining sections.  She displayed some unusual dexterity.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on May 12, 2020, 01:48:16 PM


I've had hundreds of genuine women contact me first but most
were either old, fat, cross eyed, ugly or worse. If you have a
hot young thing send a message to you unsolicited then it
would be wise to be highly skeptical or her genuineness 
and her motivations.

Absolutely a good girl will want to chat with you away from the
forum ESPECIALLY if it costs you a single Kopeck to do it.

A good girl is what you are looking for and they will want to
see your face and hear your voice. A good girl wants you to
seduce her and win her heart.

I mean, you could have a point. But for example if I was an employee
of the agency or just someone who wants to view the RAW statistics
of the site I would tell you that since there are actually a little less than
3000 profiles(compare this to Anastasia with about 20,000) and they have
about 500 or 600 registered men, then the competition can be fierce,
even with sexy and professionally taken photos because many girls are
just beautiful, and there's an abundance of them.

Last time I logged in to the chat room just to check the amount of chat
requests ascended to 24 girls. That's less than 1% of the total of women
here.
That's CATEGORICALLY not something too outrageous! If 1% of the total ladies
are corresponding with me as well, it wouldn't be outrageous either. I'd say theres
about 100 different ladies that have corresponded through letters, so its about
3% of the total amount of profiles there, and during the course of several months.
You be the judge...
 I mean, there could be several legit ladies in there. I've discovered that for something
to work and keep working, even though it may be a SCAM, some of it HAS to be
true. And that's where they get you! So for example John Doe found his dream girl
and married her through the agency, while other 8 men didn't find anything and
were completely disappointed, they agency then says: "You see John Doe found
someone on our site! So it's not a scam. It's been proven!!"
So you be the judge.
Same happens with
bingos and lotteries, some of the winners are paid actors while the others just
get minor prizes and stuff. This I knew from a Bingo room owner in Guatemala, the
grand prize each night was awarded to an actor who actually received the money that
night and the next week he went to hand over the money back and get paid for his
performance.
Perhaps that's going too deep into the problem but I think the monetary system in
itself is corrupt, that's why there are so many injustices in life, but what can we do?

In other topics I wanted to update on my own interactions in LADA date. It turned out to be quite
interesting. 2 of the girls that wrote to me first actually agreed to send me the confirmation
photo that I asked for. One wrote my name with the date on it while the lady I'm most interested
in sent me something similar to what I asked, probably misunderstood me but leaving that confusion
aside, I found something a little bit strange.
Up to this point I hadn't noticed anything strange in our correspondence as she seemed llike
a real person and not just writing some "I'll write whatever you want to hear from me" type of messages.
My "spidey sense" was telling me that she has serious intentions and responds questions from real experience, not just
a translator posing as her.
Because of this I made up some story that my close friend had advised me to leave the site (actually it's you
guys) because it wasn't real and there was actually someone posing as her as she was too beautiful to be
on one of these types of sites.
Ok, to the point! So I asked for my name or a circle sign and she did send it, but guess what?! If you zoom
 in that photo in the notebook you can see some sort of editing or photoshop. As if something that was
 written there was erased or cloned from another part of the sheet. I just covered her eyes and nose in black
with my own photoshop, the rest is intact.

Another new girl from Russia intrigued me so I wrote her back. She said she wanted to call me or for me
to call her and that she would send her info via attachment picture. Guess what happened? They blocked
the image with another one stating something in russian I belive. Then i advised her that her info had been
blocked and she told me that I should send my contacts and she would try to contact me instead thinking that
my photos wouldn't be blocked. And guess what? My message got to her without any attachments. So I belive
they are actually filtering and checking every incoming and outgoing message so that you don't break their
so called rules, forcing you to interact with the girl 15 times so you can ultimately "buy" her contact info.

I guess it's their business and if you really are into a girl, you should at least spend the minimum that they
require from you so they're not giving that info just like that, unless you can break the system on your own
and find the girl through VK or another means of social media(which I already did! haha ;) ).

Your opinions? Let me know in your reply!
Cheers guys

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on May 12, 2020, 02:05:51 PM
My opinion is simple .. WHY are you still bothering with the site and not trying to find a real woman..one seeking a partner .. not a 'mark'?
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on May 12, 2020, 02:51:07 PM
they are actually filtering and checking every incoming and outgoing message
so that you don't break their so called rules, forcing you to interact with the girl
15 times so you can ultimately "buy" her contact info.

Your opinions? Let me know in your reply!
Cheers guys

First get a new email address one that you don't use for anything else.
You want to be sneaky? Use something like Gramsofsalt@mail.com

Start a new facebook and VK page based on that.

Dear Sexy Olga,

You asked about my Grandmothers famous recipe for Spam cream pie

You will need the following ingredients
415 Grams of diced spam
515 Grams of chopped onions
121 Grams of cream cheese 
   2   cloves of garlic and a dash of salt.

NOTE: This phone number is information for the San Francisco area.
Combine those ingredients and

Combine ingredients and simmer then put in 10 'Gramsofsalt' at that
time dot com municate.

Filters are made to be bypassed also search for the girl on other sites.
They might sell her contact information far cheaper.

The girls on your pay per view site are not prettier than on the other
free sites. They look prettier because they have professional photos,
makeup and photoshop and possibly they don't allow the fatties to
put up profiles.

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on May 12, 2020, 05:00:01 PM
I mean, there could be several legit ladies in there. I've discovered that for something
to work and keep working, even though it may be a SCAM, some of it HAS to be
true.

No, it does not have to be true.   There is a statistic somewhere that the actual percentage of ppl who get on a plane and visit a girl is very low: 5%?  3%?

So, for 95% of the "clients", they are enjoying themselves chatting with the pretty lady pictures, and the business works and keep working from milking them.  How much does it cost to chat there?  $.50 per minute?  Heck, at even $0.01 per minute they are typing up money.  Literally.

The 5% of those standing alone at airports or train stations...well, there will be more keyboard romeos signing up to replace them.

So, if the intention is to fantasize about chatting up a hottie, then that site or similar will do the trick.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on May 12, 2020, 06:36:06 PM

Another new girl from Russia intrigued me so I wrote her back. She said she wanted to call me or for me
to call her and that she would send her info via attachment picture. Guess what happened? They blocked
the image with another one stating something in russian I belive. Then i advised her that her info had been
blocked and she told me that I should send my contacts and she would try to contact me instead thinking that
my photos wouldn't be blocked. And guess what? My message got to her without any attachments. So I belive
they are actually filtering and checking every incoming and outgoing message so that you don't break their
so called rules, forcing you to interact with the girl 15 times so you can ultimately "buy" her contact info.


They are probably sending that mail. They don't need a filter. They already write on behalf of women pretending they want to give you contact info so they send you a woman's photo with a part blacked out. Guys will actually believe the woman is "into them". After no success exchanging contact info, guys pump more money into the message system and when deciding to visit the woman they use the local feeder agency and their recommended accommodations and translation services.

If I was single again, I'd be 100% successful in finding another woman. It's not complicated or hard. You're wasting your money, your time, and your life using companies like that. Those agencies have a lot more experience with guys than guys have with them. Some guys try to outsmart those companies and end up getting outsmarted.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on May 12, 2020, 06:53:51 PM
No, it does not have to be true.   There is a statistic somewhere that the actual percentage of ppl who get on a plane and visit a girl is very low: 5%?  3%?

So, for 95% of the "clients", they are enjoying themselves chatting with the pretty lady pictures, and the business works and keep working from milking them.  How much does it cost to chat there?  $.50 per minute?  Heck, at even $0.01 per minute they are typing up money.  Literally.


Hehe, seems we both listen to Marc from Dream Connections. He said 3% in a recent conference.
I know there may be deceit from both parts of the spectrum, the ladies who perhaps are getting paid
to chat up foreigners with their nice profiles hoping that they will never go to visit them and
Keyboard romeos like you say who their only intention on a site like this is to chat up hotties. In my case
I'm not like that and ultimately would like to visit Ukraine once the restrictions are lifted by next year at
most.  Not that I owe explanations to anybody but just wanted to make that clear.

Heck! seems you do do your homework my friend Steve! It around that price the cost of each minute of
chat. Personally I prefer correspondence but on rare ocassions I chat as well. Not that other more credible sites
like the ukReine.com don't charge for letter translations. They use a similar dynamic as regular PPL PPC sites.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on May 12, 2020, 06:59:23 PM
First get a new email address one that you don't use for anything else.
You want to be sneaky? Use something like Gramsofsalt@mail.com

Start a new facebook and VK page based on that.

Dear Sexy Olga,

You asked about my Grandmothers famous recipe for Spam cream pie

You will need the following ingredients
415 Grams of diced spam
515 Grams of chopped onions
121 Grams of cream cheese 
   2   cloves of garlic and a dash of salt.

NOTE: This phone number is information for the San Francisco area.
Combine those ingredients and

Combine ingredients and simmer then put in 10 'Gramsofsalt' at that
time dot com municate.

Filters are made to be bypassed also search for the girl on other sites.
They might sell her contact information far cheaper.

The girls on your pay per view site are not prettier than on the other
free sites. They look prettier because they have professional photos,
makeup and photoshop and possibly they don't allow the fatties to
put up profiles.

Brilliant! But "NOTE: This phone number is information for the San Francisco area. "
is not included on the sneaky message right?
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on May 12, 2020, 09:09:36 PM
They are probably sending that mail. They don't need a filter. They already write on behalf of women pretending they want to give you contact info so they send you a woman's photo with a part blacked out. Guys will actually believe the woman is "into them". After no success exchanging contact info, guys pump more money into the message system and when deciding to visit the woman they use the local feeder agency and their recommended accommodations and translation services.

If I was single again, I'd be 100% successful in finding another woman. It's not complicated or hard. You're wasting your money, your time, and your life using companies like that. Those agencies have a lot more experience with guys than guys have with them. Some guys try to outsmart those companies and end up getting outsmarted.

It's quite possible what you say, if the agency is run by crooks, they could even be pretending to
have the will to send me their contact info just for me to spend my credits faster and not give me
anything in the end. So I appreciate your concern
and advice. In this case 2tallbill gave me a good advice on how to send my contact information
in sneaky ways through the same messaging system, and it seems he's a very experienced poster
in this forum as you can see. So I believe there could be ways to go around it.
I'm not actually planning on spending a whole lot of money into this site as I know that it can turn
out to be false, still I'm willing to put some of the eggs on this basket and see what happens. I know
there have been guys spending tens of thousands of dollars just communicating through PPL with individual
ladies, but I'm definitely not planning on spending that kinda money! Never!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on May 12, 2020, 09:51:24 PM
In this case 2tallbill gave me a good advice on how to send my contact information
in sneaky ways through the same messaging system, and it seems he's a very experienced poster
in this forum as you can see. So I believe there could be ways to go around it.


You could send your contact info in secret code to the agency employee you're trading love letters with all you want as long as you're paying them for the fun and games they provide. Just don't expect a phone call or text message. There's better places to spend your time and be productive increasing your chances of finding someone. When you do find someone, don't tell them your experience with this agency.
Title: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: 2tallbill on May 12, 2020, 11:03:36 PM
It
Because of this I made up some story .........

Your opinions? Let me know in your reply!
Cheers guys

My advice is to never make up stories. If this is a real girl then it could
wreck your future with her. Try to be as honest humanly possible and
get away from the site. You've been there long enough to get a good
girl away and you know about the possibility of clever translators
communicating instead. It's far better to fish in clear clean water
than fish in a sewage ditch.

Avoid pay by the letter agencies and go to the pay by the month or
free sites and stop trying to game the system. Don't play games.

Udachi!

Bill





Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Shadow on May 13, 2020, 02:31:47 AM
Here some stern advice from an old rusty member, who experienced most fo the errors people make.
What you need to do is stay focused. What are you up to? Are you trying to play around trying to survey how many women are insincere or are you looking for someone to share your life with?
f the latter, do not fool around. Go only for the ones who show sincerity and act swiftly. While currently travel is a problem, that does not mean you can not build something using modern technology.
If you need to pay for contact details, do it. If you can not afford that, forget about the whole thing. Once you got direct contact, call through Whatsapp, Viber or similar.If the lady tries to tell you she has no such thing, drop her at once.My MIL who recently turned 80 and lives on a pension has three cell phones and uses video calling. A friend from Dagestan living in a village with more live stock than people also uses strictly mobile. So if a woman tells you she has none, she is lying.
Go for the target and all will be cleared up in an instant.



Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: jone on May 13, 2020, 02:23:19 PM
Here some stern advice from an old rusty member, who experienced most fo the errors people make.
What you need to do is stay focused. What are you up to? Are you trying to play around trying to survey how many women are insincere or are you looking for someone to share your life with?
f the latter, do not fool around. Go only for the ones who show sincerity and act swiftly. While currently travel is a problem, that does not mean you can not build something using modern technology.
If you need to pay for contact details, do it. If you can not afford that, forget about the whole thing. Once you got direct contact, call through Whatsapp, Viber or similar.If the lady tries to tell you she has no such thing, drop her at once.My MIL who recently turned 80 and lives on a pension has three cell phones and uses video calling. A friend from Dagestan living in a village with more live stock than people also uses strictly mobile. So if a woman tells you she has none, she is lying.
Go for the target and all will be cleared up in an instant.

Did you hear about the cannibal who passed his mother-in-law in the woods?
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on May 14, 2020, 03:20:07 PM
Here some stern advice from an old rusty member, who experienced most fo the errors people make.
What you need to do is stay focused. What are you up to? Are you trying to play around trying to survey how many women are insincere or are you looking for someone to share your life with?
f the latter, do not fool around. Go only for the ones who show sincerity and act swiftly. While currently travel is a problem, that does not mean you can not build something using modern technology.
If you need to pay for contact details, do it. If you can not afford that, forget about the whole thing. Once you got direct contact, call through Whatsapp, Viber or similar.If the lady tries to tell you she has no such thing, drop her at once.My MIL who recently turned 80 and lives on a pension has three cell phones and uses video calling. A friend from Dagestan living in a village with more live stock than people also uses strictly mobile. So if a woman tells you she has none, she is lying.
Go for the target and all will be cleared up in an instant.

Yeah, I mean, you are absolutely right. It's not my intention spending too much time and money or being in an
endless search and alert mode on this site. If I buy the contact details whatsapp or skype then I'll shift my focus
to there and close my lada account. If it turns out to be fake or the girl says she cannot communicate through there then
I'll dust it off and move on with another dating site. I already opened a couple more accounts in the websites the
friends here advised so I think it's just a matter of time finding somebody worthwhile.
Cheers!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on May 14, 2020, 10:36:08 PM

Long ago, one member here  dated an agency girl who said she or another agency girl(can't remember) carried dozens of phones with her everywhere she goes. On each phone was a label with the girl's name she's supposed to answer for. If you buy the contact info and you get a girl to respond, don't break out the champagne. They have figured out ways to keep guys on the hook longer. There are much better/productive ways to spend your time. Just saying.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on May 16, 2020, 11:01:20 PM
I don't know how many times fellow posters tell this guy, but it doesn't seem to sink in.   Go to Elena's models.   Go to FDating.  These are not ripoff sites.   You'd be able to create an online relationship with these women having so much time on their hands.   

But pay-per-view and pay-per-chats are simply rip offs whereby women (and some men operating women's profiles) are there solely for your money.

Evven though you give me good advice in that I should try Elenas models and other good sites you have found
(and it is appreciated  :clapping: :clapping:)
it's funny to me that the first thing I find about this FDating site is that it is filled with scammers! Just as much
as you say about your so called PPL ukranian marriage agency !!
And I agree with the poster of this review as going to just any dating site that is free sets you up to finding
just about ANYBODY there, the good ones and the bad ones, even the WORST ones. In this case, the scammers.
I feel that paying for a membership or the sole act of having to pay for something makes it more valuable and to the
eyes of most ladies(note that I use "most")  it gives them the impression that you are more serious in your intention
of meeting a woman. Not that it is a guarantee of anything, like many things in life of course, but at least they get
an idea about you and your resources.
I know this can be a topic of great controversy for most people, so I'll leave it like that, just check out the
attached picture.
Cheers
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on May 16, 2020, 11:05:16 PM
Long ago, one member here  dated an agency girl who said she or another agency girl(can't remember) carried dozens of phones with her everywhere she goes. On each phone was a label with the girl's name she's supposed to answer for. If you buy the contact info and you get a girl to respond, don't break out the champagne. They have figured out ways to keep guys on the hook longer. There are much better/productive ways to spend your time. Just saying.

Thanks for the encouragement ... :(     :-[ 😖
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Shadow on May 17, 2020, 12:54:22 AM
Evven though you give me good advice in that I should try Elenas models and other good sites you have found
(and it is appreciated  :clapping: :clapping: )
it's funny to me that the first thing I find about this FDating site is that it is filled with scammers! Just as much
as you say about your so called PPL ukranian marriage agency !!
And I agree with the poster of this review as going to just any dating site that is free sets you up to finding
just about ANYBODY there, the good ones and the bad ones, even the WORST ones. In this case, the scammers.
I feel that paying for a membership or the sole act of having to pay for something makes it more valuable and to the
eyes of most ladies(note that I use "most")  it gives them the impression that you are more serious in your intention
of meeting a woman. Not that it is a guarantee of anything, like many things in life of course, but at least they get
an idea about you and your resources.
I know this can be a topic of great controversy for most people, so I'll leave it like that, just check out the
attached picture.
Cheers
IMHO scammers are not the worst ones. Most are pretty obvious so that only the stupidity of the men allows them to obtain money.Professional daters are worse, they can act along to waste a lot more time and money than any scammer.When you evaluate an agency do not look at the procedure for men only but the whole business model. Paying for membership just allows the agency a stable income, it does nothing for the seriousness of the agency, the women or the men.If the business model is on exchanging contact information or additional services at least they need some constant stream of work to obtain money.But the best way is to see if the women need to pay an entrance fee. What? Woman paying? Yes. Serious women often use a local agency to weed out the letters from men they are not interested in, and to translate for them. And pay for that.This will show if there is genuine work done and the agency is not just a cash cow.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on May 23, 2020, 12:13:44 AM
Hey guys, new update on this site. Turns out Victoriya Club.com shares many of the girls
ladadate has in their "inventory"!
Look at this heavily photoshopped photo on the LEFT. The girl is obviously the same one
and you can clearly see that the one on the RIGHT, the real photo, looks much older and
her chin looks more "manly". The left photo has a younger looking girl, finer facial features
and perhaps a bit whiter. The hair on the left also looks different, you can see a difference
in color and lastly look at the hair strands in between the fingers on the photo on the LEFT.
Where did they get those transparencies?
NOTE Im not implying LADA doesn't use photoshop as well , it just happens that this particular
lady was left untouched by the photoshoppers at lada and was heavily worked at Victoriya.

Im attaching another lady from LADA. This blonde is heavily photoshopped to give a false impression
of her ... intelligence!
Look at the photos and the huge difference in volumes.
I'd like to know if these girls are aware of how their profiles are being displayed. Seems to me that
these agencies are more like escort services, the pictures looks nothing like the girl displayed
on the websites!

And last but not least, look at this other beauty. It seems as if a bra of some sort was photoshopped
over her naked breasts. It takes a bit of practice watching hundreds of these pictures but when
you finally get it, no one can fool you with FAKE pictures!!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on May 23, 2020, 12:23:22 AM
Hmm, someone needs to spend more time looking on sites with women seeking a partner, rather than analysing ( and failing) on what's 'photoshopped'  ;)

I realise you may have more time on your hands, possibly, but this 'obsession' is unhealthy .

I have found girls who didn't know about the photos being used of them and they were mostly five or more years out of date ( like your nude model ) 

That should be a BIG clue to search elsewhere.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Faux Pas on May 23, 2020, 06:07:16 AM
iloveuk,
You seem to be falling into a trap many before you have. It appears you are obsessing over pretty pictures and dating sites much like a kid peering through the window at a candy store. Photos and dating sites, nefarious and legitimate are simply window dressing and mean exactly dick. Get past that, start writing to the women that interest you. Contact and writing is the first step in developing a relationship. A relationship that really doesn't exist until you get on a plane and go meet them.

You also seem to be drawn in by the PPL sites, beware as they are full of vipers and traps to separate you from your money. They are counting on you doing exactly as you seem to be doing, obsessing over the pretty pictures.

BTW, while they all appear photo shopped.  That is not a shopped bra
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on May 23, 2020, 06:23:11 AM
When Mr Mistake reinforces and agrees with ALL all I just said, beforehand .. it's sl. worrying   :welcome:
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Faux Pas on May 23, 2020, 06:41:51 AM
When Mr Mistake reinforces and agrees with ALL all I just said, beforehand .. it's sl. worrying   :welcome:

I am merely pointing out to iloveuk the obvious.

Quit trolling
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on May 23, 2020, 07:03:33 AM
There was a large element of humour implied, Mr Mistake...

'Sorry' if you filters are askew

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: BillyB on May 23, 2020, 09:05:50 AM

Good detective work iloveukrayinkas but we already know those sites photoshop their girls to suck suckers in. That is why we don't recommend those sites. There are real girls elsewhere that are looking for quality men. Quality men would not be spending much of their time at those sites once they spot or are told of the deception.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Davo on May 23, 2020, 06:21:26 PM
Evven though you give me good advice in that I should try Elenas models and other good sites you have found
(and it is appreciated  :clapping: :clapping:)
it's funny to me that the first thing I find about this FDating site is that it is filled with scammers! Just as much
as you say about your so called PPL ukranian marriage agency !!
And I agree with the poster of this review as going to just any dating site that is free sets you up to finding
just about ANYBODY there, the good ones and the bad ones, even the WORST ones. In this case, the scammers.
I feel that paying for a membership or the sole act of having to pay for something makes it more valuable and to the
eyes of most ladies(note that I use "most")  it gives them the impression that you are more serious in your intention
of meeting a woman. Not that it is a guarantee of anything, like many things in life of course, but at least they get
an idea about you and your resources.
I know this can be a topic of great controversy for most people, so I'll leave it like that, just check out the
attached picture.
Cheers


You seem to be floundering in the easiest stage of this journey...... finding genuine women to correspond with. Iím a newbie too, so I donít pretend to know a fraction of the other guys who have replied do. Much of what Iíve learnt over the last few years has come from listening to members like them. The biggest lesson is never use PPL, which only leaves you with free and monthly subscription sites, both Iíve used and met genuine women on.

In my opinion as a guy whoís been using FSU dating sites recently and been successful as far as corresponding with lots of honest  women and spending time with several in real life, youíve made basic mistakes using whatís hands down one the best dating sites to meet genuine FSU women..... fdating. In my experience 95%+ are genuinely looking for a man, with no hidden agenda obvious during the online correspondence stage.

In my time on fdating, I met a handful of visa airfare scammers and probably 50+ women who showed all the right green flags during early correspondence. You will come across more of these scammers in the early 30 age group, but as shadow said ..... whatís the best option? .... organised scamming at a multi million dollar level, or low level scams that you find on every dating site in the world. The scammers you met on fdating are so obvious that it shouldnít take a second longer to pick they arenít genuine if they addressed their initial message with ďSvetlana the scammerĒ. You will face bigger obstacles than basic scammers, even when things are going relatively smoothly.

Iíll give you a recent example of how easy fdating is to attract genuine women. I met a fellow countryman of yours in December, whoís the same age as you. He posted on a single fathers site and asked if anyone had real life experience with Russian women. He was besotted with a FSU woman who contacted him on zoosk in the states, but had some concerns because he couldnít lock her down to video chat. I took one look at her first message and it was obvious heíd spent 3 months chatting everyday to a visa / airfare scammer. He was disappointed, but he now had an interest in meeting a real Russian woman online, so he signed up to fdating. I recruited another member from here and we gave him some advice on the basics and he nailed it in less than a week. He dealt with 2-3 scammers and met approximately 10 genuine women who like my experience, showed solid green flags. One girl in particular, an attractive, petite blonde with an 8 year old son captured his heart. While their online ďromanceĒ was a little too intense for two people who had never met, they spent countless hours video chatting, messaging and calling every day, exactly what an honest woman who genuinely likes you does. Heíd even spent time talking to her parents and closest friends. If it wasnít for travel bans they would have spent 2 weeks together earlier this year and Iím certain he would have had a great time with her even if she wasnít the one.

This is what you havenít experienced yet and why youíre still playing with PPL sites. Thereís something wrong if you have to ask a woman to hold a sign up to see if sheís genuine. A genuine fsu woman has a lot of pride. If you asked one to degrade herself like that, sheíd politely tell you to f%ck off and block you. Once youíve  met a genuine woman, had an online relationship with her and experienced how real FSU women behave online, youíll realise what a waste of time even just searching for scammers on PPL sites for amusement is. Right now you could be experiencing something amazingly unique, rewarding and real!! compared with what youíve experienced on PPL sites or even online dating at home. For most first time guys dabbling in FSU dating with some online dating experience, fdating is a wtf life changing moment. The reviews are from men who have made basic mistakes, have problems that make them un-date-able no matter what culture a womanís from, or have been chasing the unrealistic pretty pictures of prodaters and visa scammers.

Youíve commented that fdating has anybody there...good, bad, worse etc... thatís the best thing with fdating, itís a realistic cross section of the community like a real dating site should be. You have to find that sparking gem who ticks all your boxes. PPL is just a glossy skin that prevents most guys of breaking through to the real women. On that note, when you meet a real woman itís not about spending money to find quality women, if you mention you spent money on PPL itís a red flag against you. Women are aware of the scam industry and the gullible men who fall for it. Obviously you donít want to look like a gullible man whoís frivolous with his money.

Most competent men are successful on fdating after a little trial and error and find nice genuine women during the online stage.... If youíre putting in a genuine effort and being realistic in the women youíre messaging (women who donít look like those on PPL sites), but having no luck, you need to change what youíre doing or give up and date at home.

Fdating is as easy as it gets when it comes to meeting  genuine FSU women. Iím an average middle aged guy.....If I signed up now, Iíd be chatting with an attractive, intelligent honest women in less than an hour and thatís no exaggeration. 

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: iloveukrayinkas on June 01, 2020, 08:33:15 PM
I mean, I'm aware I'm still talking about this website knowing that there are some red flags
with many of the women's profiles that shouldn't be ignored. At this stage I was just pointing
out my discoveries, as one of the other members, I don't recall who exactly, asked to keep him posted
on my experience or with whatever my results were on this site.
For some reason I feel I'm being bashed and I was even told I "have this obsession" with the site in question
just for posting that last post which I had already researched
about a month ago and I wanted to share it with the other members who would be interested !
I mean, is this "PPL Shaming"? Anyway,  i'ts not like I'm obsessed with the PPL site or any other
site in that regard!
But what if I liked a particular lady on the site and the girl has 15 videos there(one does) and I want to buy them
all because I enjoy it??
then nobody can tell me not to do it, it's my money anyway, Im in no way affecting anybody elses economy
purchasing those videos or photos if it was the case, even if we suspect they're just models and that it's some sort
of money scheme, then it's my risk.
I'm not discarding any good advice i see here and honestly exploring the sites that the guys have recommended here but anyway
I don't think you can get huge results with just a couple of times you use a site. You have to dedicate some
time there, post some good pictures or get new ones and have patience in your search, just like anything worthwhile in life.
That's pretty much all wanted to write about this so there you go!
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: msmob on June 01, 2020, 08:54:43 PM
If only I had £10 for every guy who feels the need to explain why they cannot leave a PPL site behind ...
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: SteveInBoston on June 02, 2020, 04:54:47 AM
I mean, I'm aware I'm still talking about this website knowing that there are some red flags
with many of the women's profiles that shouldn't be ignored. At this stage I was just pointing
out my discoveries, as one of the other members, I don't recall who exactly, asked to keep him posted
on my experience or with whatever my results were on this site.
For some reason I feel I'm being bashed and I was even told I "have this obsession" with the site in question
just for posting that last post which I had already researched
about a month ago and I wanted to share it with the other members who would be interested !
I mean, is this "PPL Shaming"? Anyway,  i'ts not like I'm obsessed with the PPL site or any other
site in that regard!
But what if I liked a particular lady on the site and the girl has 15 videos there(one does) and I want to buy them
all because I enjoy it??
then nobody can tell me not to do it, it's my money anyway, Im in no way affecting anybody elses economy
purchasing those videos or photos if it was the case, even if we suspect they're just models and that it's some sort
of money scheme, then it's my risk.
I'm not discarding any good advice i see here and honestly exploring the sites that the guys have recommended here but anyway
I don't think you can get huge results with just a couple of times you use a site. You have to dedicate some
time there, post some good pictures or get new ones and have patience in your search, just like anything worthwhile in life.
That's pretty much all wanted to write about this so there you go!

Thank you for sharing.  You seem aware of the risks, which is good.

Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Shadow on June 02, 2020, 05:16:35 AM
I mean, I'm aware I'm still talking about this website knowing that there are some red flags
with many of the women's profiles that shouldn't be ignored. At this stage I was just pointing
out my discoveries, as one of the other members, I don't recall who exactly, asked to keep him posted
on my experience or with whatever my results were on this site.
For some reason I feel I'm being bashed and I was even told I "have this obsession" with the site in question
just for posting that last post which I had already researched
about a month ago and I wanted to share it with the other members who would be interested !
I mean, is this "PPL Shaming"? Anyway,  i'ts not like I'm obsessed with the PPL site or any other
site in that regard!
But what if I liked a particular lady on the site and the girl has 15 videos there(one does) and I want to buy them
all because I enjoy it??
then nobody can tell me not to do it, it's my money anyway, Im in no way affecting anybody elses economy
purchasing those videos or photos if it was the case, even if we suspect they're just models and that it's some sort
of money scheme, then it's my risk.
I'm not discarding any good advice i see here and honestly exploring the sites that the guys have recommended here but anyway
I don't think you can get huge results with just a couple of times you use a site. You have to dedicate some
time there, post some good pictures or get new ones and have patience in your search, just like anything worthwhile in life.
That's pretty much all wanted to write about this so there you go!
I have mt the owner of a PPL site and exchanged thoughts on the way they operate. Their explanation was simple. 95% of the men on these sites will never plan a visit as all they do is dreaming and wasting money on dreams that will never be fulfilled. This is why they feel it is legitimate to post profiles of women who have no idea their pictures and videos are watched by drooling foreigners.While it is your money, you are keeping this type of industry alive.A scammer is not a lonely (or married) woman making money by writing letters. That is way too romantic view of the business. Scammers and PPL sites that catr to dreamers only are a well organized business  that has a high profit margin. Involved are crime organizations and ruthless businesses who have no care for their paying customers.Your money goes to the owner of the site. If the girl ever registered there you might never know. If all you want is to throw money at videos of girls there are sites where all involved know what it is about.
Title: Re: LADAdate anyone?
Post by: Faux Pas on June 02, 2020, 05:54:40 AM
I mean, I'm aware I'm still talking about this website knowing that there are some red flags
with many of the women's profiles that shouldn't be ignored. At this stage I was just pointing
out my discoveries, as one of the other members, I don't recall who exactly, asked to keep him posted
on my experience or with whatever my results were on this site.
For some reason I feel I'm being bashed and I was even told I "have this obsession" with the site in question
just for posting that last post which I had already researched
about a month ago and I wanted to share it with the other members who would be interested !
I mean, is this "PPL Shaming"? Anyway,  i'ts not like I'm obsessed with the PPL site or any other
site in that regard!
But what if I liked a particular lady on the site and the girl has 15 videos there(one does) and I want to buy them
all because I enjoy it??
then nobody can tell me not to do it, it's my money anyway, Im in no way affecting anybody elses economy
purchasing those videos or photos if it was the case, even if we suspect they're just models and that it's some sort
of money scheme, then it's my risk.
I'm not discarding any good advice i see here and honestly exploring the sites that the guys have recommended here but anyway
I don't think you can get huge results with just a couple of times you use a site. You have to dedicate some
time there, post some good pictures or get new ones and have patience in your search, just like anything worthwhile in life.
That's pretty much all wanted to write about this so there you go!

There's no shaming, from me anyway. With this post you are essentially declaring you're more interested in fueling your fantasies rather than actually living the dream and serious about finding a life partner. You have at it and I'll ignore your future posts