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Title: 90 day Fiance
Post by: GregfromGa on November 21, 2016, 08:32:28 PM
The big boy is in for a world of pain with that rig.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on November 21, 2016, 08:49:39 PM
I just wish Anfisa was single and I had the means to support her the way she deserves.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Larry1 on November 21, 2016, 08:52:18 PM
The big boy is in for a world of pain with that rig.

I assume you mean Jorge and Anfisa. For those of you who don't watch this show Anfisa from Moscow began the show engaged to an American guy. Don't read further unless you're ok with spoilers.

Anfisa wants a lavish lifestyle and Jorge is not wealthy. At  the wedding dress store she asked what's the most expensive wedding gown they had. When shown the $45,000 dress she selected it.

At the jewelry store she was initially prepared to accept a 3 carat diamond engagement ring but when the saleswoman told her they had a 5 carat diamond that they could sell at the bargain price of $150,000 she quickly opted for that one.

Jorge did something she disliked and she keyed his car with the word "IDIOT". When asked what the most important thing to a marriage was she answered, "money". I could go on and on with stories.

Jorge is a complete idiot for proceeding with her.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 21, 2016, 08:57:12 PM
She does love Jorge. 

I think a lot of this was played up for the cameras.  She had a point.  She wouldn't be with him if he couldn't provide for her, but he wouldn't be with her if she didn't have a good body or a face he finds attractive.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: jone on November 21, 2016, 09:04:35 PM
(http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/90_Day_Fiance_Anfisa.jpg)

This Anfisa?
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Larry1 on November 21, 2016, 09:07:14 PM
This Anfisa?

That's her
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Brasscasing on November 21, 2016, 09:18:37 PM
I assume you mean Jorge and Anfisa. For those of you who don't watch this show Anfisa from Moscow began the show engaged to an American guy. Don't read further unless you're ok with spoilers.

Anfisa wants a lavish lifestyle and Jorge is not wealthy. At  the wedding dress store she asked what's the most expensive wedding gown they had. When shown the $45,000 dress she selected it.

At the jewelry store she was initially prepared to accept a 3 carat diamond engagement ring but when the saleswoman told her they had a 5 carat diamond that they could sell at the bargain price of $150,000 she quickly opted for that one.

Jorge did something she disliked and she keyed his car with the word "IDIOT". When asked what the most important thing to a marriage was she answered, "money". I could go on and on with stories.

Jorge is a complete idiot for proceeding with her.

Yep. Run, don't walk and don't look back cameras or not.

Brass
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: CaptB on November 22, 2016, 05:36:06 AM
For the first time since I was 10/12 years old......I found myself yelling at the TV screen......"Jorge.......look out.....don't do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Capt B
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Sailor291 on November 22, 2016, 09:36:34 AM
I personally find her very unattractive.  Lips like a fish, oversize store bought boobs, and huge butt.  Not to mention Jorge should have sent her packing when she cut off his phone while still in Russia.   
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on November 22, 2016, 12:06:34 PM
I personally find her very unattractive.  Lips like a fish, oversize store bought boobs, and huge butt.


Pretty much. Ugly woman, inside and out. Not to mention she is a liability in his line of business. He may wind up getting killed because of her stupid shit.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Sailor291 on November 22, 2016, 02:14:55 PM
My wife loves that show, not sure why.  But, how do you like that Nicole?  Does not spend 30 seconds researching the country her intended is from and then just cant understand why things are different.  Complete and utter moron. 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Larry1 on November 22, 2016, 03:02:51 PM
My wife loves that show, not sure why.  But, how do you like that Nicole?  Does not spend 30 seconds researching the country her intended is from and then just cant understand why things are different.  Complete and utter moron.

Nicole's mother was prudent not to co-sponsor on the K1. For readers who haven't watched the show Nicole is a barista and doesn't make enough money to qualify for the fiancť visa. She asked her mother to co-sponsor the Moroccan fiancť. If the marriage went South I understand that this would potentially put the mother on the hook supporting the guy for years.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 22, 2016, 03:07:02 PM
I don't think Afasina is ugly, and she doesn't have breast implants (evident from her photoshoot). 

Look at it from her perspective.  When asked who she would want at her wedding, she said her mother and grandmother.  That means there are no men in her family.  In Russia, that usually means the father left the mother (probably grandmother as well).  So, she has probably been told that many men are unreliable, and that they don't want her life to be broken the way theirs have been.

Jorge pursued her.  He told her he was wealthy and made promises because he wanted her.  So, she agreed to meet him based on those promises.  Then, he let her down.

I think a lot of the drama is created for television.  But I also think that some of it is just that she is young, and has a certain temperament.  He is not much better, he threw his phone at her, breaking it.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Faux Pas on November 22, 2016, 03:22:41 PM
Anfisa might not be some of you chaps cuppa tea but she is far from ugly. She is extremely hot in a stripper on a pole kind of way. She is proof that in the FSU the fish you catch is directly related to the bait you use. From that standpoint Jorge deserves everything coming his way. She told him on the show she was with him because of the money. She was fooled into thinking he was rich and he fooled himself into thinking he had the woman of his dreams.

Jorge has stumbled his way this far thinking with nothing but his penis. Think of the money he's saved on strippers. Quite frankly both of them deserve everything they get or don't get.

All of the couples in the latest season (not that the previous was much better) I wouldn't give much of a chance of making it 3 years. Matt and Alla probably the best chance but, I suspect they probably have the same taste in men.

Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 22, 2016, 03:34:42 PM
I don't think Matt is gay.  I do think he is very sensitive.


I think Mohamed (from seasons past) may be gay, and Azan may be gay although in the latter case, it may just be cultural, I don't know enough of Arab culture to know.




Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 22, 2016, 03:38:48 PM
From that standpoint Jorge deserves everything coming his way. She told him on the show she was with him because of the money. She was fooled into thinking he was rich and he fooled himself into thinking he had the woman of his dreams.


He lied to her about his financial status.  He lied to her about his criminal record.  And since marriage, he has threatened to annul their marriage and send her back to Russia (which I think is abusive).  Neither of them are very mature.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Larry1 on November 22, 2016, 03:46:19 PM
Think of the money he's saved on strippers.

He admitted to spending $10,000 on one visit to a strip club. That makes me think of a corporate executive (a CEO I think) who went to a high end strip club in New York City and racked up something like $80,000 to $100,000 in charges. I think he even paid with his corporate charge card, although my memory about the details is fuzzy. He did a charge back and the card issuer didn't pay the club. The club then sued him, resulting in considerable publicity and the exec losing his job.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on November 22, 2016, 03:47:56 PM
I don't think Afasina is ugly, and she doesn't have breast implants (evident from her photoshoot). 

Hideous looking girl, but just my opinion. She has obviously has a boob job, and a bad one at that. And she destroyed her face at 20.

Is drama staged the show and do they deserve what they wound up with? Of course.

All of the couples in the latest season (not that the previous was much better) I wouldn't give much of a chance of making it 3 years. Matt and Alla probably the best chance but, I suspect they probably have the same taste in men.

The guy who moved back to Thailand with his wife seems pretty normal. I would think they make it long term.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 22, 2016, 04:01:17 PM
She hasn't had breast implants.  In the photo shoot, Anfisa had some shots taken lying down.  Breast implants don't slope down, or "collapse" the way real breasts do when a woman lies down.  They look exactly as they do when a woman is sitting up or standing.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Miquel Westano on November 22, 2016, 04:01:34 PM
Hideous looking girl, but just my opinion. She has obviously has a boob job, and a bad one at that. And she destroyed her face at 20.


Agreed.  That is one of the better pics of her, and still no beauty queen.  Add that to the horrible attitude and she is ugly as sin in my book.  That pic distorts the image of her body, or the TV show does.  She looks thinner in that photo in my opinion.  But her sugar daddy is no top drawer man in my eyes.

Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 22, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
What a horrible thing to say.  How do you know if he is top drawer?  All you see is what is portrayed and edited for ratings in a television programme.


He chose her, she is attractive to him.  What some sixty plus year old dedushka thinks of her looks (or some 40 something guy) is irrelevant to her.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on November 22, 2016, 04:33:44 PM
She hasn't had breast implants.  In the photo shoot, Anfisa had some shots taken lying down.  Breast implants don't slope down, or "collapse" the way real breasts do when a woman lies down.  They look exactly as they do when a woman is sitting up or standing.

That's a pair of bolt ons.

http://www.instagram.com/p/BMr6FaDDqSN/ (http://www.instagram.com/p/BMr6FaDDqSN/)


The new implants definitely slope down. They are made that way. Gummy Bears.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 22, 2016, 04:45:41 PM
No, I mean when she is lying down.  Natural breasts slide (for lack of a better word) toward the armpits.  Breast implants stay in place, so they look exactly the same whether a woman is standing or lying down.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on November 22, 2016, 05:11:16 PM

Didn't even know 90 Day Fiance existed on tv until this thread. That's how much I'm disconnected with tv shows these days. Based on Anfisa's body Jone posted, most guys would be interested in that. I Googled more photos. Her body is less appealing in those photos. Her face looks much worse without makeup. Looks like she had lip augmentation/Juvederm with those big lips. I can't say she has breast implants though. It may be natural. I would be able to tell better if someone has nude photos of her. Does any have any of her nude? If not, when they split, she'll probably do some nudes for a magazine.

Based on what some said here, seems like she doesn't want to live within Jorge's means. Jorge doesn't know how to find a sincere woman but then again, if he did, they may have not made the show since the show is looking for people who provide drama.
Title: 90 day Fiance
Post by: 2tallbill on November 22, 2016, 05:12:18 PM

He lied to her about his financial status.  He lied to her about his criminal record.  And since marriage, he has threatened to annul their marriage and send her back to Russia (which I think is abusive).  Neither of them are very mature.

They certainly don't belong together.

Who in their right mind would invite a tv crew in their lives when they are just getting
started? The TV crew is there for ratings, you don't get ratings with a normal happy
relationship, who knows what they did to help foment problems? What do the
couple get out of the tv crew being there?

 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Hammer2722 on November 22, 2016, 05:21:04 PM
They certainly don't belong together.
 What do the
couple get out of the tv crew being there?
Money and fame? That would be my guess.....
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 22, 2016, 05:23:12 PM
They get cash.  I think that is what drives the couples.

In the first couple of seasons, there were a number of religious men (mostly LDS) who were on the programme, I read, and they participated to show their religion is "normal" rather than for money.  But the show distorted their marriages, so the religious types don't participate anymore.

I don't think the producers foment discord, I think something that is a small issue in a relationship is blown out of proportion on television, and likely is misrepresented.

I could see, for example, that Anfisa loves Jorge.  She may love his money, too, but she wasn't faking her feelings.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on November 22, 2016, 05:34:15 PM
I could see, for example, that Anfisa loves Jorge.  She may love his money, too, but she wasn't faking her feelings.

How strong were her feelings for that $45,000 wedding dress and $150,000 5 carat diamond ring? If he didn't lead with his wallet when they met, I doubt she'd know him long enough to love him.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Larry1 on November 22, 2016, 07:18:22 PM
BillyB asked if there were nude photos of Anfisa so I did a bit of looking. I didn't find any, but apparently Anfisa wants to be a bikini model or Playboy model.

http://www.allaboutthetea.com/2016/09/18/90-day-fiances-anfisa-tells-beau-jorge-she-plans-to-pose-naked/

That article also reveals what prompted her to delete the contents of his phone and lock him out of his email account. He denied her a $10,000 bag she wanted. Jorge is the greedy man. :-)
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Donhollio on November 22, 2016, 08:13:56 PM
Alla would get my attention. She reminds me of several UA girls I know from my period traveling there. I don't know what's wrong with her dude, but  she should be very concerned that he's 4x divorced.
That one from Moscow is a cold fish in every aspect from what I've seen of the show. I haven't seen the entire tale, just that somehow Jorge is living in some hotel yet drives an Audi R8 that closes in shy of 200k. I know it's LA  but come on you should put having a roof over your head above a car.
 The chubby chick with the Moroccan is a slow disaster in the making. It's a scenario that plays out too often.
 What night does it air,  we enjoy watching it, shows my lil Human Heater she could of done far worse!
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Larry1 on November 22, 2016, 08:27:59 PM
Alla would get my attention. She reminds me of several UA girls I know from my period traveling there. I don't know what's wrong with her dude, but  she should be very concerned that he's 4x divorced.
That one from Moscow is a cold fish in every aspect from what I've seen of the show. I haven't seen the entire tale, just that somehow Jorge is living in some hotel yet drives an Audi R8 that closes in shy of 200k. I know it's LA  but come on you should put having a roof over your head above a car.
 The chubby chick with the Moroccan is a slow disaster in the making. It's a scenario that plays out too often.
 What night does it air,  we enjoy watching it, shows my lil Human Heater she could of done far worse!

Hey Don. Good to see you posting.

I agree about Alla. She and her sister are slender and lovely. I think her new husband has been divorced three times. This was his fourth marriage.

"Chubby chick"? I think Nicole went beyond chubby 10,000 Big Macs ago. I agree their prospects don't look all that bright.

It airs here on the TLC network Sunday night. But the network shows past episodes all the time.  It must be a big ratings star for them.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on November 22, 2016, 08:45:27 PM
I haven't seen the entire tale, just that somehow Jorge is living in some hotel yet drives an Audi R8 that closes in shy of 200k. I know it's LA  but come on you should put having a roof over your head above a car.


He runs grow houses and is a convicted felon. So he risks being robbed and few will rent to him.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: fathertime on November 22, 2016, 09:13:42 PM
I'm not watching the silly show, but I did click on the links to the photos you guys posted.  Personally, I think she is pretty cute in those photos...superb body, her face isn't the cutest I've seen, but still pretty in her own little way.


Fathertime! 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Miquel Westano on November 22, 2016, 09:17:02 PM
What a horrible thing to say.  How do you know if he is top drawer?  All you see is what is portrayed and edited for ratings in a television programme.


He chose her, she is attractive to him.  What some sixty plus year old dedushka thinks of her looks (or some 40 something guy) is irrelevant to her.

Well horrible or not, he is no brad pitt.  And I bet she does care what everyone thinks of her looks.  She is vain, and for little reason in my book.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 22, 2016, 09:18:05 PM
Every woman is vain in her own way.  Most men of your age would have that figured out.


He doesn't have to be Brad Pitt.  Most men aren't.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on November 22, 2016, 09:36:20 PM
The Ukrainian mail order husband and his wife will be fine as well. Normal couple. Live 20 minutes from us.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on November 22, 2016, 09:59:56 PM
BillyB asked if there were nude photos of Anfisa so I did a bit of looking.


Thanks Larry! Can I count on anybody else to find me some nude photos or is Larry the only nice guy here?

What night does it air,  we enjoy watching it, shows my lil Human Heater she could of done far worse!


I just seen a few of the last episodes of season 4 on YouTube. Anfisa has no goals to advance her brain. She likes to run over her man and Jorge is the kind of guy that gets ran over often. She doesn't respect him and will leave for a man she can respect. I predict most of the relationships won't last after the show ends.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Anotherkiwi on November 23, 2016, 03:42:41 AM
It airs here on the TLC network Sunday night.

The Tender Loving Care network?  :ROFL:

Someone get the restoratives!

I am so glad we don't get that sort of show here.  We only get lumbered with The Bachelor/ette, and Australians Married at First Sight.  :wallbash:  I'm SO glad that I don't have enough spare time to watch any of them.  :whew:
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: mhr7 on November 23, 2016, 05:14:43 AM
The Tender Loving Care network?  :ROFL:

The Learning Channel
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Faux Pas on November 23, 2016, 08:12:07 AM
The Tender Loving Care network?  :ROFL:

Someone get the restoratives!

I am so glad we don't get that sort of show here.  We only get lumbered with The Bachelor/ette, and Australians Married at First Sight.  :wallbash:  I'm SO glad that I don't have enough spare time to watch any of them.  :whew:

Yet you find plenty of time to post meaningless "Look at me Mr. Superior in every way" tripe to anything American on an obscure forum?

 :ROFL:

Maybe you'll find the time in your busy schedule to read my post
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on November 23, 2016, 11:01:52 AM
Just to add, The Learning Channel used to have programmes that actually were educational.  Some fascinating things.  They also had a lot of educational programming for children.  When they were sold, the children's programming moved to another cable channel of the corporate group and eventually, the channel started showing reality television.  It was better when the programming was educational.  Still, this show is interesting in a trainwreck sort of way.


The channel I most lament the loss of is Arts & Entertainment.  In the 1990's, it used to have show live opera, ballet, artsy movies, and original programming.  They once broadcast tapes of the Kirov Ballet, from the 1970's, performing original choreography, modern, often using American themes, such as cowboys, and not completely ballet.  I recognized most of it as pieces Baryshnikov had been lauded for in the 1980's, proof of his "genius" as a choreographer.  It was the only original choreography he'd ever produced, and of course, it wasn't his.  Now, Arts & Entertainment gives us such fine programming as Duck Dynasty, Married at First Sight, and Storage Wars.




Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: mhr7 on November 23, 2016, 02:22:41 PM

Pretty much. Ugly woman, inside and out. Not to mention she is a liability in his line of business. He may wind up getting killed because of her stupid shit.

Wow, just watched some of the show and have to say I agree with you 100%. Jorge could do much better.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Anotherkiwi on November 23, 2016, 04:36:11 PM
Yet you find plenty of time to post meaningless "Look at me Mr. Superior in every way" tripe to anything American on an obscure forum?

 :ROFL:

Maybe you'll find the time in your busy schedule to read my post

My "tripe" is no worse than some of the crap you come up with, so why don't you just go back to your bunker and await Armageddon?  If you even bothered to think about time differences, you would realise that the great majority of my posts are at lunchtime, when I have spare time to surf the internet.  The other time that I look at this forum (and that's maybe three or four times a week) is late at night, before I go to bed.  It's interesting to see that there are always US members posting at that time (e.g. 3 or 4 am) who obviously don't need sleep.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Faux Pas on November 23, 2016, 06:33:11 PM
My "tripe" is no worse than some of the crap you come up with, so why don't you just go back to your bunker and await Armageddon?  If you even bothered to think about time differences, you would realise that the great majority of my posts are at lunchtime, when I have spare time to surf the internet.  The other time that I look at this forum (and that's maybe three or four times a week) is late at night, before I go to bed.  It's interesting to see that there are always US members posting at that time (e.g. 3 or 4 am) who obviously don't need sleep.

Yeah apparently that job at the drive thru consumes most of your day. My bad, do you want fries with that?
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on November 23, 2016, 07:05:06 PM
It's interesting to see that there are always US members posting at that time (e.g. 3 or 4 am) who obviously don't need sleep.


Guilty... I sleep 5 hours a day. Tech is in Romania and dev in Bangladesh. In the global economy you get very little sleep and work strange hours. Just the way it is these days.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: CaptB on November 23, 2016, 09:58:09 PM
Boethius,


I have to agree with your assessment of Jorge & Anfisa. Both are young, immature, and focussing too much on the physical & monetary.....and not on whether their partner has (at this time) the qualities to be successful in a relationship. I don't have a lot of respect for people who threaten to annul the marriage....and send them back....if they don't......"toe the line". Even if there are a few good things about this couple.....I think ultimately.....they are doomed to failure. My parents have been married for over 65 years....Dad is 87......Mom is 85. Their take on marriage (in their time....early 1950's):


The good: People stayed together and worked things out.
The bad: People stayed together and did not work things out.


My Dad says that it is good that divorce does not carry the stigma....that it did in his time....but because of that....many do not try hard enough. Hopefully this couple will learn (after divorce)......the next time around.


Capt B




Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: fathertime on November 24, 2016, 06:12:19 AM
Boethius,


I have to agree with your assessment of Jorge & Anfisa. Both are young, immature, and focussing too much on the physical & monetary.....and not on whether their partner has (at this time) the qualities to be successful in a relationship. I don't have a lot of respect for people who threaten to annul the marriage....and send them back....if they don't......"toe the line". Even if there are a few good things about this couple.....I think ultimately.....they are doomed to failure. My parents have been married for over 65 years....Dad is 87......Mom is 85. Their take on marriage (in their time....early 1950's):


The good: People stayed together and worked things out.
The bad: People stayed together and did not work things out.


My Dad says that it is good that divorce does not carry the stigma....that it did in his time....but because of that....many do not try hard enough. Hopefully this couple will learn (after divorce)......the next time around.


Capt B
I don't think there is much of any stigma to divorce nowadays.  I don't know if there really should be.  I think it would be awful to be stuck in a marriage because as a very young adult made a mistake in choosing who to marry, and he/she couldn't correct it as the circumstances changed.   In terms of the 1950's vs now...I think I'd choose 'now' in terms of choices/consequences. Although, I do think the pendulum has swung far enough. 


Fathertime! 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on May 13, 2018, 11:04:03 PM
She doesn't respect him and will leave for a man she can respect.


I haven't watched tv for 3 months and turned it on a few days ago and seen the update conclusion to the Anfisa and Jorge saga.

Anfisa and Jorge had many short term breakups but she finally leaves him because she doesn't respect him. Jorge's sister tears into her accusing her of opening her legs for money at a restaurant and Jorge stays silent. She breaks up with him because he didn't stand up for her. Jorge begged her to come back and so she met him to hear what he has to say. Jorge basically he loves her and many other things but he didn't apologize for not sticking up for her. She figures if he doesn't "get it" he'll never get it so she ends it. Without respect, there can be no love.

Anfisa's faults were talked a lot already but if a guy is her husband, he still needs to protect his wife, even from criticism from his family members. After all, he lives with his wife everyday, not his mother, sister, father etc...


Jorge is a nice guy but very weak. He is not Alpha among his family or Anfisa. He hid critical information from Anfisa before bringing her to America. He has a criminal record for selling marijuana and his current business is selling marijuana legally. He makes good money at it but money alone isn't going to keep a woman to stay married to the guy forever.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on May 13, 2018, 11:14:52 PM
There is a lot more after that Billy. She winds up stripping and I think prostitution.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Davo2 on May 14, 2018, 12:07:41 AM
Apart from her obvious assets, does anyone else find her unattractive?
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: deccie on May 14, 2018, 12:15:59 AM
I haven't watched tv for 3 months

When I was back in Canada I also shut off the TV in the end. 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on May 14, 2018, 12:30:49 AM
There is a lot more after that Billy. She winds up stripping and I think prostitution.

There's another episode after she left Jorge? I didn't see that one. Anfisa likes attention and is hoping to become famous. Stripping is one way to get discovered and earn good money at the same time.

 I communicated with a Belarusian girl living in Las Vegas years ago. She was here on a work visa. She was actually looking for a serious relationship and to have a family. Took a while before she told me she's a stripper. Says she does it for money only but turn down offers for sex. She's had offers 15-20k before and turned them down. She was a few hours flight time away from me. I really believed she was looking for something serious because she wrote to me in a mature manner and never got me to think with the dick which she should be good at since she seduces men for a living. I decided not to go since I had other options.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on May 14, 2018, 12:37:01 AM
Apart from her obvious assets, does anyone else find her unattractive?

My thoughts from 2016 still stand.

Ugly woman, inside and out.

There's another episode after she left Jorge? I didn't see that one. Anfisa likes attention and is hoping to become famous. Stripping is one way to get discovered and earn good money at the same time.


Think there is a spinoff, and they have done follow ups, etc.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: JayH on May 14, 2018, 01:31:32 AM


Think there is a spinoff, and they have done follow ups, etc.

Does she hook up with DJT ? :D :tmi:
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on May 14, 2018, 02:28:01 AM
Does she hook up with DJT ? :D :TMI:


LOL, that would be a story.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: mhr7 on May 14, 2018, 02:43:05 AM
Apart from her obvious assets, does anyone else find her unattractive?
Not in the in the least bit attractive, in any way.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on May 14, 2018, 02:45:42 AM
She was cute when younger in Russia (before the fake boobs and whatever she did to her face).
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Nightwish on May 14, 2018, 03:33:39 AM
She was cute when younger in Russia (before the fake boobs and whatever she did to her face).

(http://realityblurb.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/90-day-fiance-anfisa-before-and-after.jpg)

and if you google on "anfisa webcam" you can see how she looked below the neckline and before the boobjob.  8)

and no, she ain't attractive at all, not physically nor mentally. BUT she has always been honest about why she moved to US - a better richer life, she is there for the money and nothing else and she consistently admitted this. 

the spinoff: before the 90:days .. yikes what a train-wreck that is  :ROFL:
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: tfcrew on May 14, 2018, 02:01:22 PM
Oodles of episodes on youtube....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD898Jg0SrM
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 15, 2018, 09:50:48 AM
I always prefer the natural look, rarely does cosmetic actually improve someones look unless they really looked ugly big time to start with. I think Anfisa comes across as an unemotional cold fish for the most part, apart from the church which was a very weird case - perhaps she asked for that stuff actors asked to get sprayed in their eyes to make them cry when she was at the alter. Only in a few scenes does she display much personality at all. She's pretty but kind of marred by looking a bit plasticy.

Jorge meanwhile could really do with losing quite a few pounds, he really doesn't help his situation with his weight I feel. I think he would probably look reasonably attractive if he toned up a lot, though being a guy I wouldn't know for sure. I had to laugh when he was described as a sugar daddy during the show with just a 5-6 year age gap. He's a beta male guy, more so because of the flab putting him in a low worth situation. His weak to a point, but its not easy when you have a girl constantly on at you all the time about buying stuff as I know. Its kind of strange as he connected to her in the first place on an 'I'm rich, you're hot' basis but seems to then want her to love him into the bargain. She's at least gives it too him straight so there is no mission creep but I think a lot of guys would walk at that point if they were ever under any delusion in the first place.



I can kind of relate to this situation as there are some similarities with me & the last girl I was with. She too was just like Anfisa with the impression that money flowed like water and the constant wanting stuff bought for her without seemingly realizing money needs to be accumulated and spent over time. She kinds of looks quite like the last girl I was with though my girl was completely natural and already had quite big natural boobs :) She had the same mindset though as Anfisa. It becomes a pain to have to deal with someone like that and taxing on the relationship. The main difference with my girl is that my girl made out she was into me, or perhaps she might have been on some level other than money. I never said I'm rich but think she thought I was.

Main problem is that I think its very confusing as to what sort of relationship you have with her. She wants stuff but where does that leave you. My guess for Jorge her aim was a green card and a move on to wealthier & better - he was just the immigration mule, the stepping stone along the way. She's generally after a millionaire not a mildly comfortably off guy. I would surprise me if Jorge ever had any chance of getting long term mileage out of the relationship. It would just depend on whether a deal could be done to suit both parties, but my guess is she would want way more than she would be willing to give in return.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: 2tallbill on May 15, 2018, 10:08:51 AM
When I was back in Canada I also shut off the TV in the end.

I've had TV for maybe 6 months in the last 6 years? Every now and then I am
at somebody else's house where they have it and after watching the 4th stupid
commercial in a row, I remember all the reasons that I quit.

Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on May 15, 2018, 10:18:49 AM
I can kind of relate to this situation as there are some similarities with me & the last girl I was with.


What? Your girl had a hot body and you have a flabby stomach?  :P

My guess for Jorge her aim was a green card and a move on to wealthier & better - he was just the immigration mule, the stepping stone along the way. She's generally after a millionaire not a mildly comfortably off guy. I would surprise me if Jorge ever had any chance of getting long term mileage out of the relationship.
 

The woman likes money I agree but I don't agree she was after a green card. Jorge was weak in many ways. That alone is a good reason for a woman to leave a man. If Jorge was a strong wise, and intelligent man, she would have stayed married to him but if Jorge was that kind of man, he would probably dump her first since guys like that can get higher quality women.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 15, 2018, 10:36:54 AM
What? Your girl had a hot body and you have a flabby stomach?  :P

The woman likes money I agree but I don't agree she was after a green card. Jorge was weak in many ways. That alone is a good reason for a woman to leave a man. If Jorge was a strong wise, and intelligent man, she would have stayed married to him but if Jorge was that kind of man, he would probably dump her first since guys like that can get higher quality women.

Lol well she had a hot bod and I would say even prettier face than Anfisa, I am nowhere near flabby like Jorge, quite thin-Average build, not quite a flabby stomach but never got lean enough there to expose the washboard so unfortunately always been a bit of fat covering it.

You could be right about the green card, probably just wanted to be spoiled by a real rich dude thinking she's worth it because she's ho, she was definitely after money, possibly fame - think she thought a lot of herself on that one.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: msmob on May 15, 2018, 10:56:27 AM
Trench - now the 'expert' on US visas ))
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 15, 2018, 11:18:18 AM
Trench - now the 'expert' on US visas ))

I never said I was an expert I merely speculated she may be after one. Though of course on the show she seemed to want to return to Russia/missed her family. Though possibly even that was to try and push the guy to buy her stuff.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Nightwish on May 15, 2018, 11:39:43 AM
[img width=600 height=491]
and no, she ain't attractive at all, not physically nor mentally. BUT she has always been honest about why she moved to US - a better richer life, she is there for the money and nothing else and she consistently admitted this. 

I never said I was an expert I merely speculated she may be after one. Though of course on the show she seemed to want to return to Russia/missed her family. Though possibly even that was to try and push the guy to buy her stuff.

suffering from reading disabilities?
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 16, 2018, 12:20:18 AM
I love the update on the young Mormon guy on 90 day Fiance and his young FSW. Apparently after marrying him she ended up giving birth to a black kid, LOL  :ROFL:

Just so funny to see the photo of them with the black kid, he certainly got more than he bargained for :D Apparently it looks like was a result of getting it on with one of her (black) male clubbing friend shortly before their relationship/marriage.

She had real big boobs and fairly pretty so no doubt this devoutly religious type thought he had landed on his feet when she strolled up (me too at the time before just seeing latest update). Well looks like that backfired on him and he's been left in a very embarrasing position considering his family's conservative religious background and it being televised to the the world through the internet and all. Still you try and convert a slut and...  absolutely hilarious  :D
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 01:42:20 AM
I've had TV for maybe 6 months in the last 6 years? Every now and then I am at somebody else's house where they have it and after watching the 4th stupid commercial in a row, I remember all the reasons that I quit.

Both my siblings restricted the television their children could watch.  Neither I nor the better half did with our kids, and all our kids had their favourite programmes.  The difference I noticed is that my siblings' kids, when exposed to television, were mesmerized by it, so much so, they ignored everything around them, and a couple of them still do.  My kids quickly lost interest in television, and though they watch some programmes from time to time online now (no commercials), they never watch "traditional" television, and couldn't name five current programmes.

There is some outstanding educational television for kids.  Between the Lions, for example, teaches kids to read.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on May 16, 2018, 02:26:40 AM
Just so funny to see the photo of them with the black kid, he certainly got more than he bargained for :D Apparently it looks like was a result of getting it on with one of her (black) male clubbing friend shortly before their relationship/marriage.

he's been left in a very embarrasing position considering his family's conservative religious background and it being televised to the the world through the internet and all.


Damn, what a chump. Definitely not his kid. but Mormons are very accepting, so not as big a deal as you think.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Nightwish on May 16, 2018, 02:49:48 AM
I love the update on the young Mormon guy on 90 day Fiance and his young FSW. Apparently after marrying him she ended up giving birth to a black kid, LOL  :ROFL:

Just so funny to see the photo of them with the black kid, he certainly got more than he bargained for :D Apparently it looks like was a result of getting it on with one of her (black) male clubbing friend shortly before their relationship/marriage.

She had real big boobs and fairly pretty so no doubt this devoutly religious type thought he had landed on his feet when she strolled up (me too at the time before just seeing latest update). Well looks like that backfired on him and he's been left in a very embarrasing position considering his family's conservative religious background and it being televised to the the world through the internet and all. Still you try and convert a slut and...  absolutely hilarious  :D

uhmm it might very well be his kid, Alexandra has a black (cuban) father
(http://the-hollywood-gossip-res.cloudinary.com/iu/s--HMuZbNtr--/t_full/cs_srgb,f_auto,fl_strip_profile.lossy,q_auto:420/v1506007397/aleksandra-and-her-father.png)

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/aleksandra-and-her-father/ (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/aleksandra-and-her-father/)
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 16, 2018, 05:48:01 AM
uhmm it might very well be his kid, Alexandra has a black (cuban) father
(http://the-hollywood-gossip-res.cloudinary.com/iu/s--HMuZbNtr--/t_full/cs_srgb,f_auto,fl_strip_profile.lossy,q_auto:420/v1506007397/aleksandra-and-her-father.png)

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/aleksandra-and-her-father/ (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/aleksandra-and-her-father/)

Looks like a likely cover story to me ;D

Even if true it's still going to be kind of embarrassing to the guys white conservative religious family. My guess is on the quiet they are probably not loving her, lol.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 02:05:47 PM
There are photos of her father in her FB page (now private) from before her meeting Josh, so it is her father.


Josh's family posts photos of the child on FB, so I doubt they are embarrassed.  They've also had another child.



Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 16, 2018, 02:14:10 PM
There are photos of her father in her FB page (now private) from before her meeting Josh, so it is her father.


Josh's family posts photos of the child on FB, so I doubt they are embarrassed.  They've also had another child.

Still its bound to raise a few eyebrows, even a few awkward moments no doubt.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 02:16:59 PM
So will an FSU wife.  Your colleagues, neighbours, friends, even family will always be talking behind your back about how you had to go and "buy" a foreign wife.  If you are that concerned with what others think, best to avoid that awkward scenario.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on May 16, 2018, 02:22:24 PM
Looks like a likely cover story to me ;D

Definitely bullshit cover story. No way that black dude is her father. Aleksandra would be mulatto if he was.


Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 02:25:52 PM

Definitely bullshit cover story. No way that black dude is her father. Aleksandra would be mulatto if he was.

Not necessarily.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-twins-black-white-biggs/ (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-twins-black-white-biggs/)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/black-white-twins-meet-sisters-5256945 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/black-white-twins-meet-sisters-5256945)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123050/Look-The-black-white-twins-turn-seven.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123050/Look-The-black-white-twins-turn-seven.html)

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/sep/24/twins-black-white (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/sep/24/twins-black-white)


Photos of the twins, and their parents, in the links.  There are more, these were the easiest to find.


The last link is the most interesting story, the second link, the most disparate physical appearance.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on May 16, 2018, 02:36:04 PM
It's a long shot and very unlikely. The body language between her and her "friend" tells me all I need to know.
But who cares if they are happy. Not worth our time arguing about it.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 02:38:27 PM
It's supposedly a one in one million occurrence.  There are photos of her with her father, identified as her father, from when she still lived in Russia, before she moved to the Czech Republic and met her husband.  I can't see someone suggesting a man is her father for no reason.  Her mother is married to someone else now.

Just to be clear, I don't believe Josh is the baby's father, but if they are happy, it's no one else's business.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 16, 2018, 03:36:50 PM
Yeah, was about to say, she could have a black father bit still have been knocked up by the black dude, her clubbing mate. Possibly as assuming her father is black the odds may well be less than one in a million - probably that's more for those several generations ago. Either way my thoughts are the same as you Boe in that it's not from her father but another black guy, unless of course...

I think though by doing reality TV they have to accept that their private lives are no longer private though and as such have become everyone's business.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 03:39:38 PM
No, it really is no one's business, notwithstanding the television appearance.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on May 16, 2018, 03:40:57 PM
People in the link below says her white dad was on the show during an earlier season and the black father was never mentioned until after the baby. I wonder if the tv show is creating added drama to increase ratings. I've only seen one white kid from a black father and white mother but kid was albino and had curly white hair, very white skin but you can see physical traits from the father side although color is absent. I don't see any family resemblance between Aleksandra and the black guy and look at the photo in the link below. She's at the club with her "father"? Who wants to be seen at the club with their parents?

http://www.reddit.com/r/90DayFiance/comments/7143bt/aleksandra_dad_mystery_somewhat_solved/

Mohamad says his wife stinks and his wife complains he's not having sex with her. Mohamad looks prettier than his wife! More couples from the show below.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/slideshows/90-day-fiance-couples-whos-still-together/
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 16, 2018, 03:49:31 PM
No, it really is no one's business, notwithstanding the television appearance.

I disagree, we're all dreadful gossips drooling at the next scandal to hit our screens, you too Boethius as otherwise you would never watch it ;D
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 03:52:07 PM
Black father, white mother twins -


(http://www.cypheravenue.com/uploads/8/5/6/8/8568420/8869340.jpg?448)




Black mother, white father twins -


(http://freeyork.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/black-white-twin-sisters_01-1-758x1085.jpg)
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 03:54:01 PM
I disagree, we're all dreadful gossips drooling at the next scandal to hit our screens, you too Boethius as otherwise you would never watch it ;D


I haven't seen them all.  Last season was the only one I watched in its entirety.  I don't take them seriously, as they are edited to create drama.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on May 16, 2018, 03:59:47 PM

White father introduced earlier in the show is in a video below. There is family resemblance between him and Aleksandra. He also talks like he cares about who his daughter is marrying since the guy is Mormon and are concerned about what him and his wife read about Mormons. His friends said he's stupid for letting his daughter marry the Mormon. Why should he care if he's only the stepfather? Aleksandra was also a party girl and worked as a go go dancer in her past according to the show.

http://www.thewrap.com/90-day-fiance/
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 16, 2018, 04:11:33 PM

I haven't seen them all.  Last season was the only one I watched in its entirety.  I don't take them seriously, as they are edited to create drama.

Yeah, yeah, we all believe you of course, lol :ROFL:
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 04:17:07 PM
Believe or donít, no effect on me.

So are you ready to be called a loser who couldnít find a Brit to marry you, and had to go to the FSU to buy a wife?
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on May 16, 2018, 04:29:08 PM

Also from what I read from people who watched the show, at the wedding, the only father showed up was the white father introduced earlier in the show. If Aleksandra would be seen at a club, a public place, with her black father, you'd think she'd value him enough to invite him to the wedding. We'll probably never know the answer who's Aleksandra's real father is.

Any man of any color would be in his right to ask for a DNA test if their child looks nothing like him.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: ML on May 16, 2018, 04:32:39 PM
Just to add the obvious.

Where father is black and mother is white:

If one of the twins is white, then possibility exists that twin does have a white father who is not married to the white mother.
Mother produced two eggs which were fertilized by different men.

But, if mother black and father white, then no other man need be involved to get one white and one black.

In all the cases referenced, I saw nothing about DNA tests having been performed.

And, in other cases . . .

It is well known that in time of slavery, many white men did have sex with the black female slaves.  And the once in a thousand or so cases did happen where the offspring looked 100% white.

After slavery abolished, some of those folks moved away and began to pass themselves off as white.  But they were fearful of having children, knowing a good chance that the children would be black.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 16, 2018, 04:47:00 PM
Read the National Geographic article, ML.  It is rare, but it can occur.  There are, as I posted, other recent cases.


I remember an interview with professor who wrote a book about his experience as a "white" man.  He was African American (two AA parents), and grew up in a "black" neighbourhood, but once he grew up and moved, he realized he could pass for white.  He went to college, and told no one of his past (he grew up in the fifties).  He obtained a PhD, and became a tenured professor at a major university. It was only in the 1990's that he "came out" with his book.  He had no AA features, other than very dark eyes, but that is occurs among Caucasians as well. 



In the above cases I linked, the twins were all DNA tested, depends on which link you read. 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 17, 2018, 08:38:55 AM
Believe or donít, no effect on me.

So are you ready to be called a loser who couldnít find a Brit to marry you, and had to go to the FSU to buy a wife?

Its quite understandable not to find a Brit girl, there are loads & loads of men in the same position as me, most girls are married to their job or difficult to interact with, etc. So these days I would not be seen as a loser by not having a Brit girl as it is common place, similar I gather for the US So no I would have no qualms about going on a show like this and stating such. I do not see this guy as a loser for not being able to get a US girl, he doesn't help himself with any girl by being that much overweight but that is about it. Buy a wife? Well whatever the situation is, it is as it is, if a more happy fulfilled life comes of it then in my book you do whatever, buying a wife though in its starkest terms is probably not going to end well I would imagine.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 17, 2018, 08:54:59 AM
She does love Jorge. 

I think a lot of this was played up for the cameras.  She had a point.  She wouldn't be with him if he couldn't provide for her, but he wouldn't be with her if she didn't have a good body or a face he finds attractive.

I think with Anfisa she kept referring to him as stupid. I think this was mean't that he didn't really understand the deal that was on the table that he himself first put forward (apparently). Basically that he was a rich guy (now questionable) and she would go with him because of that. She sees him as stupid I believe for not realizing that is the deal he signed up to and then wanting love with her and a decrease in her material expectations (at least in the short term if not longer).

I think Anfisa enjoys playing the cat fight with Jorge, son in that way she is into him. Perhaps also they are two opposites that have bad traits that somehow go together. Sometimes when she kisses him on the show its brief and even it looks like she finds kissing him distasteful. Sometimes she is just unemotional to his presence. She's probably giving him confusing signals and the audience. I am not sure that she really truely loves him though, perhaps with time, at this point in time I just think there conflicts just play off playfully with one another, that's my thoughts anyway.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BdHvA on May 17, 2018, 09:00:27 AM
Its quite understandable not to find a Brit girl, there are loads & loads of men in the same position as me, most girls are married to their job or difficult to interact with, etc. So these days I would not be seen as a loser by not having a Brit girl as it is common place, similar I gather for the US So no I would have no qualms about going on a show like this and stating such. I do not see this guy as a loser for not being able to get a US girl, he doesn't help himself with any girl by being that much overweight but that is about it. Buy a wife? Well whatever the situation is, it is as it is, if a more happy fulfilled life comes of it then in my book you do whatever, buying a wife though in its starkest terms is probably not going to end well I would imagine.

Do you think about what you post?

The majority of British men are married to British women. They raise families and go to church as well as TESCO. They agree and disagree. But TC you have this fixation that most British women are overweight. I have been to Leeds and Bristol (where my daughter is) they are for the most part fit and healthy. I am confident she would cringe if you were present. Yes you find some young women who have chip buttie with a pint at 9 am pushing a pram but that is the exception.

The real issue is your naive or perhaps misogynist viewpoint that in the 21st century women should be in the kitchen producing babies and yet able to support them selves. You can pontificate absolute BS with no knowledge or practical expeirence. And it is the same for both the British and former Soviet Union.

Please spare both the women there and the readers here.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 17, 2018, 11:13:58 AM
Do you think about what you post?

The majority of British men are married to British women. They raise families and go to church as well as TESCO. They agree and disagree. But TC you have this fixation that most British women are overweight. I have been to Leeds and Bristol (where my daughter is) they are for the most part fit and healthy. I am confident she would cringe if you were present. Yes you find some young women who have chip buttie with a pint at 9 am pushing a pram but that is the exception.

The real issue is your naive or perhaps misogynist viewpoint that in the 21st century women should be in the kitchen producing babies and yet able to support them selves. You can pontificate absolute BS with no knowledge or practical expeirence. And it is the same for both the British and former Soviet Union.

Please spare both the women there and the readers here.

If your daughter has taken on the bad attitudes of British women then yes she probably would cringe, any little thing gets the British girls nose out of joint over here, its what makes them so difficult to interact with - they cannot reach out to guys at all they just take a superior touch above attitude to most guys who arenít in the in crowd. Most fail to even consider their own short comings - or am I alone in that!

There are now more single pieople in the UK than ever before, in the majority now I believe, just over 50 percent. So it is far from being just me and a few other guys. It is a major unaddressed problem for UK society.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Blighty on May 17, 2018, 12:16:33 PM
There are now more single pieople in the UK than ever before, in the majority now I believe, just over 50 percent. So it is far from being just me and a few other guys. It is a major unaddressed problem for UK society.

Where do you get these statistics from? In England about 15% of the population live alone, for a number of reasons.

Yes, over 60% of UK adults are classed as obese but many people are just slightly overweight. Many women over 50 do let themselves get overweight but that is not your age group. As for your claims about feminism :wallbash: by UK women, this is just more exaggeration by you. A lot of UK women do like their independence but that is very different from being a feminist. Just my observation.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: msmob on May 17, 2018, 12:21:52 PM
If your daughter has taken on the bad attitudes of British women then yes she probably would cringe, any little thing gets the British girls nose out of joint over here, its what makes them so difficult to interact with - they cannot reach out to guys at all they just take a superior touch above attitude to most guys who arenít in the in crowd. Most fail to even consider their own short comings - or am I alone in that!

There are now more single pieople in the UK than ever before, in the majority now I believe, just over 50 percent. So it is far from being just me and a few other guys. It is a major unaddressed problem for UK society.

Typical BS 'excuses' from our Trench

BTW .. your really ought to check before guessing ..


http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31461595 (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31461595)

PS Bristol is 25 mins from me...you are exaggerating re 'fat women' - as usual
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 17, 2018, 02:12:30 PM
Typical BS 'excuses' from our Trench

BTW .. your really ought to check before guessing ..


http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31461595 (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31461595)

PS Bristol is 25 mins from me...you are exaggerating re 'fat women' - as usual

Statistic was just for illustration, in general society is a lot more single than it used to be.

Loads more statistics that suggest that women if all ages are racing to get fat arses like it's the fashion.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 17, 2018, 02:54:15 PM
Statistics would also show that overall, men are more overweight than are women in the UK, and that most of that is in the 55 plus age range.  So, once again, your information is inaccurate.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 17, 2018, 03:19:05 PM
Anyway back to the topic here, do you think it's possible to have a relationship with a girl like Anfisa (a goldigger) and have her love you and be loyal to you? Or are goldiggers a lost cause?
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: BillyB on May 17, 2018, 04:24:27 PM
Anyway back to the topic here, do you think it's possible to have a relationship with a girl like Anfisa (a goldigger) and have her love you and be loyal to you? Or are goldiggers a lost cause?

It's possible for a woman who loves money to also love a man. People can love more than one thing in their lives. If I asked a woman like Anfisa out, I'd figure her out quick and if I asked her for another date, it wouldn't be to develop a relationship with her.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 17, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
It's possible for a woman who loves money to also love a man. People can love more than one thing in their lives. If I asked a woman like Anfisa out, I'd figure her out quick and if I asked her for another date, it wouldn't be to develop a relationship with her.

Leaves me wondering if goldigger girls find it hard to get guy. A lot of guys no doubt figure them out at some point and steer well clear of them and/or they get repeatedly dumped quickly and often.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: alex330 on May 17, 2018, 06:09:01 PM
Leaves me wondering if goldigger girls find it hard to get guy. A lot of guys no doubt figure them out at some point and steer well clear of them and/or they get repeatedly dumped quickly and often.


I don't think so. All the gold diggers we know here have wealthy guys lined up on standby. No need for uninterested guys that make 100k a year when there are interested guys clearing 8 figures.



Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: JayH on May 17, 2018, 06:14:36 PM
Leaves me wondering if goldigger girls find it hard to get guy. A lot of guys no doubt figure them out at some point and steer well clear of them and/or they get repeatedly dumped quickly and often.


I don't think so. All the gold diggers we know here have wealthy guys lined up on standby. No need for uninterested guys that make 100k a year when there are interested guys clearing 8 figures.



In  1000 explanations TC will  NEVER understand any of this ! :) :cluebat:
Title: 90 day Fiance
Post by: 2tallbill on May 19, 2018, 11:47:29 AM
Leaves me wondering if goldigger girls find it hard to get guy.
A lot of guys no doubt figure them out at some point and steer
well clear of them and/or they get repeatedly dumped quickly
and often.

Gold Diggers aren't trying to find a guy for marriage.
They are looking to get money, gifts etc for minimal
effort. They do this by responding to losers who believe
that they need to spend money to keep a woman's interest.

I can spot a gold digger a mile away, they aren't very subtle
and anyone who has even moderate social skills can avoid
them. 

As long as there are losers, there will be gold diggers willing
to empty their wallets. Losers flock to the MOB industry because
they believe that they can exchange money or lifestyle for love.
Those people are fooling themselves.

The key is to find a good woman, with good values and win
her heart. Everything else is secondary to that.

Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: jone on May 19, 2018, 11:58:11 AM
Gold Diggers aren't trying to find a guy for marriage.
They are looking to get money, gifts etc for minimal
effort. They do this by responding to losers who believe
that they need to spend money to keep a woman's interest.

I can spot a gold digger a mile away, they aren't very subtle
and anyone who has even moderate social skills can avoid
them. 

As long as there are losers, there will be gold diggers willing
to empty their wallets. Losers flock to the MOB industry because
they believe that they can exchange money or lifestyle for love.
Those people are fooling themselves.

The key is to find a good woman, with good values and win
her heart. Everything else is secondary to that.

Well said, Bill. 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: 2tallbill on May 19, 2018, 12:15:03 PM
Anyway back to the topic here, do you think it's possible to have a relationship
with a girl like Anfisa (a goldigger) and have her love you and be loyal to you?
Or are goldiggers a lost cause?

Don't try to fix women. Find one that doesn't need fixing.

Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 19, 2018, 12:23:49 PM
Don't try to fix women. Find one that doesn't need fixing.


He needs to fix himself first.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: msmob on May 19, 2018, 10:12:25 PM
 :ROFL: :cheesy:
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 20, 2018, 06:30:04 AM
Don't try to fix women. Find one that doesn't need fixing.

Sure, but Anfisa here makes the point if she were fat and/or ugly he would not want to know her (and I guess guys in general). I have to admit that she might have a bit of a point here. I'm not necessarily after a model, I want chemistry first & foremost, but in all honesty like most guys I'm likely to not be very attracted to girls that are fat and/or ugly (as most guys probably see ugly).

However I've never seen much milage in a goldigger and a lot of girls that are pretty looking to any degree probably sway towards thE goldigging mentality (even some fat/ugly chocks do). So is or a valid point or just her bullsh*ting to get what she wants?

By the same token some girls go after guys that really work out/handsome looking. So are women such as Anfisa confusing the two issues. Since a girl could go with a guy on the same terms that he is hot looking, though giglo's are few & far between as far as I know, lol. So I assume hot guys hanging out with girls on the basis of who they are and not for money. Unless of course she is saying Jorge should pay up as a result of him being overweight.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: msmob on May 20, 2018, 08:08:06 AM

By the same token some girls go after guys that really work out/handsome looking. So are women such as Anfisa confusing the two issues. Since a girl could go with a guy on the same terms that he is hot looking, though giglo's are few & far between as far as I know, lol. So I assume hot guys hanging out with girls on the basis of who they are and not for money. Unless of course she is saying Jorge should pay up as a result of him being overweight.



You speak of chemistry - yet you ignore the fact that some of us have wifes / g/fs that turn heads and are smart - without us being mega rich or having the body of Adonis..

More wasting of cyberspace ..a guy theorising with b all experience ...  :thumbsdown:

Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 20, 2018, 09:27:10 AM


You speak of chemistry - yet you ignore the fact that some of us have wifes / g/fs that turn heads and are smart - without us being mega rich or having the body for Adonis..

More wasting of cyberspace ..a guy theorising with b all experience ...  :thumbsdown:

Ask your other half if she would like you to have the body of Adonis?
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: msmob on May 20, 2018, 09:35:39 AM
Ask your other half if she would like you to have the body of Adonis?

She doesn't care - as long as I am healthy ... 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Trenchcoat on May 20, 2018, 11:09:38 AM
She doesn't care - as long as I am healthy ...

You mean like Anfisa she would leave you if you fell ill ;D

Admit it Mobers you didn't ask her did you? It's just what your mind would like to hear.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Jumper on May 21, 2018, 01:38:55 PM
My guess was early on anfisa was an escort or cam girl he met in moscow.
Still waiting to see if that plays out.
Even if not the reality,  it would make good reality* TV, so they may run with it.

TC, dont base your questions off paid actors in some TV series.
The amount of reality,in reality TV is akin what it was in hulk mania wrestling.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 21, 2018, 01:40:21 PM
She was a webcam girl, that is how he met her.


She was never a stripper or a prostitute in the US.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Nightwish on May 21, 2018, 01:51:24 PM
My guess was early on anfisa was an escort or cam girl he met in moscow.
Still waiting to see if that plays out.
Even if not the reality,  it would make good reality* TV, so they may run with it.

TC, dont base your questions off paid actors in some TV series.
The amount of reality,in reality TV is akin what it was in hulk mania wrestling.

she claims she was a virgin when she met him  :rolleyes:
and all the enhancements she made to her body, he paid for :) That he also admits to..
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Jumper on May 22, 2018, 01:35:53 PM
She was a webcam girl, that is how he met her.


She was never a stripper or a prostitute in the US.

I certainly wouldnt think so once here.
I do believe they are required to be in the actors guild and paid a decent amount per episode.

Btw- I was not saying it in a judgemental way, at all  ,I just assumed from right off she worked as a cam girl.or more.
They both seemed incredibly immature ,and its reality TV, and certainly is played up drama for ratings.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Nightwish on May 22, 2018, 01:55:00 PM
I certainly wouldnt think so once here.
I do believe they are required to be in the actors guild and paid a decent amount per episode.

Btw- I was not saying it in a judgemental way, at all  ,I just assumed from right off she worked as a cam girl.or more.
They both seemed incredibly immature ,and its reality TV, and certainly is played up drama for ratings.

They are payed, but ridiculously little. There was one from the last season (a friend to one of the men) that put it up on social media what he got per episode, and that was if I remember correctly $1000 (yes I found the video).. and these people is followed around 4-5 months by cameras, making 12-14 episodes, that's not a lot of money.
Since she was not under contract by the network in any way, she could spill a lot of "secrets" about the show, how everything "exciting" is scripted and set up by the producers, how they where fed lines during recording and so on..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFGdg-O9jQ


Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Boethius on May 22, 2018, 02:28:21 PM
They supposedly are paid $7000 per episode.  The American spouse receives the full amount before the foreign fiance can work.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: jone on May 22, 2018, 05:53:35 PM
That explains why Anfisa is still with Jorge.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: msmob on May 22, 2018, 09:00:46 PM
You mean like Anfisa she would leave you if you fell ill ;D

Admit it Mobers you didn't ask her did you? It's just what your mind would like to hear.

Trench,

During our time together, she has cared for me (and I her) through illness.



Try READING a poster's response - ask questions if you don't understand ...
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: MarinaSirena on October 01, 2018, 05:55:26 AM
please, give me a link to this TVshow
without registration/watch online free 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Maxx2 on October 01, 2018, 06:58:36 AM
please, give me a link to this TVshow
without registration/watch online free 8) 8) 8)


I don't see the link either. Best thing to do is ask Moby how to download bit torrents of popular movies and TV series. The guy is a genius with all things computer. He can even do a split screen with you and walk you through the set up.


I use Kickass torrents to download my shows.
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Nightwish on October 01, 2018, 08:30:13 AM
please, give me a link to this TVshow
without registration/watch online free 8) 8) 8)

Sent you a PM :)
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: GenMish on October 01, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
I have watched a few episodes, and some couples are entertaining, However, it appears the show is financing trips for odd couples to meet for the sake of ratings. I don't know of any serious couples that would behave as many on that program.

I think next week they have an exotic dancer from the USA meeting a Muslim from Algeria....and the Algerian has a requirement she convert to Islam
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: DaveNY on October 01, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
please, give me a link to this TVshow
without registration/watch online free 8) 8) 8)

Here you go. Haven't tried accessing this site from Russia but it works in the US.

http://www8.project-free-tv.ag/watch-series/#letter-9
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: GQBlues on October 01, 2018, 03:37:08 PM
Here you go. Haven't tried accessing this site from Russia but it works in the US.

http://www8.project-free-tv.ag/watch-series/#letter-9 (http://www8.project-free-tv.ag/watch-series/#letter-9)


Let me add...


http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/90-day-fiance/

....if that doesn't work in Russia, YouTube always do a great job of showing these in their site...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_gzYjgVB6I
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: MarinaSirena on October 01, 2018, 06:19:27 PM
Thank you, gentlemen 🙏🏻🙏🏻😘
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: msmob on October 02, 2018, 12:20:03 AM

I don't see the link either. Best thing to do is ask Moby how to download bit torrents of popular movies

Hi Maxx

I haven't got a clue about torrents or kodi, etc., ! This 'genius' doesn't pirate ;)   I WILL do anything to get TV I've paid for in a place they say I shouldn't - because of 'tv rights'  ..


.. 
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: GQBlues on October 02, 2018, 09:43:40 AM
Report for sizing correction.

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Let me add...

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/90-day-fiance/

....if that doesn't work in Russia, YouTube always do a great job of showing these in their site...
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: Nightwish on October 02, 2018, 10:28:10 AM
Report for sizing correction.

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Let me add...

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/90-day-fiance/

....if that doesn't work in Russia, YouTube always do a great job of showing these in their site...

But if you want to watch there (on their youtube channel), there is a cost to it, and the request was for free watching....
Title: Re: 90 day Fiance
Post by: GQBlues on October 02, 2018, 11:18:53 AM
Didn't know that Nightwish. Thanks for citing that.