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Title: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 12, 2019, 01:26:20 PM
Late january flying in with Austrian air lines.  Any advice please.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: ML on January 12, 2019, 02:32:00 PM
Many of us wonder . . . WTF is your overall plan !!!
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on January 12, 2019, 02:46:12 PM
It is a rather hasty move...have you even left Kiev yet? What are you aiming to achieve?
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 12, 2019, 03:48:57 PM
Leaving kiev Sunday 13.  5 days of professional exams and then back to work.  I liked sumy.  I find kiev ok but I must admit I liked walking around sumy.  I'm from London and found kiev a bit too much like central London.  As to dating women I liked krimster s advice to find a country girl.  I really liked the vibe of sumy.  I'm really just indulging my enjoyment of Ukraine.  Having travelled Europe USA Africa Australia I always thought eastern Europe was dull and grey and oh my god have I got a thing for Ukranian women with grey eyes.  Somehow I no longer feel comfortable in the UK.  Ukraine feels more clean and relaxed and the women are so much more friendly.  Had a hair cut and wash for 170 so I gave her 200 so touchy feely.  I notice it between people so much more touching.  I'm thinking of dinipro end of January.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 12, 2019, 03:50:58 PM
I'm just concerned it's more easterly than I've been before
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on January 12, 2019, 04:12:17 PM
I liked Sumy too, but after a week I was itching to get back to Kharkiv. Probably just a little too small, especially for a 'visit many' sort of trip both in terms of abundance of single women (compared to the city) and the possibility that you may accidentally and possibly awkwardly run into someone you have met before.


I've only been to Kharkiv and Zaporozhye (that far East) and never had a problem. I don't think you'll have any issues regarding safety in Dnipro.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 12, 2019, 04:27:26 PM
Tom I'm impressed.  Visit many is difficult .  I tried a can you come out tonight ploy on f date tonight.  no chance.  I think an element of pre planning is required.  So yes I have a hot date planned in dinopro
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: JayH on January 12, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
I'm just concerned it's more easterly than I've been before

Not that I am over enthused to help you --but-- Dnipro is further from the Russian border than Sumy-- and about 5/6 = times the size.
I have written previously that life quite close to the frontline in Donetsk is relatively normal for many people -- and that is 200 kms or so east of  Dnipro.
As for Krimster "advice" --mm-- you are taking far too much notice of the idiot Trenchcoat ( I am not yet convinced you are not a figment of his imagination) for you to be taken seriously. Write something semi salacious and some forum members here are all over it like a bad rash- so a  few titillating details will get attention !!
As for K advice on "village" girls -- basically an outdated piece of nonsense . The K is referencing a period over 20 years ago and the "advice" offered is long past it's use by date. It happens to fit with the Trenchcoat idea of some "poor" ( and ignorant) beautiful peasant girl  that can fill all his imaginary dreams of getting a girl on the cheap !
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ____  FULL STOP !
Going to Dnipro in search of a "village" girl  is ridiculously laughable -- Dnipro,Kyiv,Odesa ,Kharkiv -- are all relatively sophisticated big cities .
As it happens -I know Dnipro very well -- and the surrounding areas and cities & towns and was there (again) a few months ago -  and my comments are current.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 12, 2019, 05:05:32 PM
Jayh point taken.  Kiev has a London vibe.  I would say sumy had a county town like oxford vibe.  Different architecture obviously.  But the vibe of the women.  As to trench I'm not him but I'd almost like to meet him face to face.  If I knew how to I'd photo my Ukranian passport stamps to prove my story
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 12, 2019, 05:07:33 PM
As to trench and maybe Lyndon I think we brits have a more down to earth approach to women and no longer put them on pedestals as per the USA and Ausi guys
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: ML on January 12, 2019, 05:25:17 PM
As to trench and maybe Lyndon I think we brits have a more down to earth approach to women and no longer put them on pedestals as per the USA and Ausi guys

I have never done the pedestal thing with the FSUW or any women.
There used to be quite a bit of that going on here, but haven't noticed much of it the past few years.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on January 12, 2019, 09:33:26 PM
Because most of those who posted those things are now divorced from their FSU wives.

This post was composed without the aid of google.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: JayH on January 12, 2019, 09:48:41 PM
Because most of those who posted those things are now divorced from their FSU wives.

This post was composed without the aid of google.

It is a strange comment from James -given the pedestal he had Sumy "friend" on a week or so ago !

brits have a more down to earth approach to women and no longer put them on pedestals as per the USA and Ausi guys
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: ML on January 12, 2019, 09:49:56 PM
Because most of those who posted those things are now divorced from their FSU wives.


Good point; I hadn't thought of that.

Actually I don't have good recollection as to who was in the pedestal group, and their current  married/divorced status.

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on January 12, 2019, 11:47:06 PM
Jayh point taken.  Kiev has a London vibe.  I would say sumy had a county town like oxford vibe.  Different architecture obviously.  But the vibe of the women.  As to trench I'm not him but I'd almost like to meet him face to face.  If I knew how to I'd photo my Ukranian passport stamps to prove my story

Whaat?

Comparing Sumy to Oxford, now ?

One of them is a major tourist destination and world famous seat of learning ...

I'm getting seriously worried about your thought processes  ! ;)

James, don't let this be an obsession
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 13, 2019, 12:21:03 AM
Msmob I'm talking about a vibe of the people as in more laid back.  Sumy has a university.  Both towns are populated by people who have and haven't anything to do with the university.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 13, 2019, 12:23:11 AM
Both sumy and oxford have a history and a decline in heavy industry and metal working
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 13, 2019, 01:40:04 AM
Jayh as to pedestals .  I have now dated a belarus and a Ukranian woman who could have been models but has top professional jobs.  Both were for less than a year and o m g was it difficult not to put them on pedestals.  Unfortunately I guess beautiful women have many options.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on January 13, 2019, 06:27:32 AM
As to trench and maybe Lyndon I think we brits have a more down to earth approach to women and no longer put them on pedestals as per the USA and Ausi guys


Please, please, please - never compare my mindset or approach to TC. We could not be more polar opposites in our approach to life or women.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: John Gaunt on January 13, 2019, 06:50:37 AM

Please, please, please - never compare my mindset or approach to TC. We could not be more polar opposites in our approach to life or women.
Agree. Trenchís approach to women is bordering on abusive. As to his approach to life, he gives fresh meaning to what a Scrooge is.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 13, 2019, 10:26:27 AM
John Lyndon msmob trench and James should meet in a bar sometime.  Something the yanks could never do
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: ML on January 13, 2019, 10:32:21 AM
John Lyndon msmob trench and James should meet in a bar sometime.  Something the yanks could never do

I thought the Magna Carta has already been signed !!
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jumper on January 13, 2019, 11:19:11 AM
I'm just concerned it's more easterly than I've been before


It's the same as any FSU city,although leans a bit more modern.

What exactly are your concerns regarding Dnepro?

Flying in , it is a modern airport no issues.
They city downtown is nice, well laid out,  and is one of the largest in Ukraine.its as safe or more so than Kiev in areas you should be.
It's as risky as any major or provincial  FSU city in areas or times of the night that you shouldn't be.
The industrial area is dirty like most  cities.


Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jumper on January 13, 2019, 11:34:41 AM


As to trench and maybe Lyndon I think we brits have a more down to earth approach to women and no longer put them on pedestals as per the USA and Ausi guys


Whoa, I do believe it was you putting fsu women on a pedestal?
:)


My observations in these forums is  brits tend to be whinging poms about women,and relationship issues.
I cant count the number that have come here stating facts about thier relationship that would make any sane man run,yet they'll drag it on a month or years and years.
 Fairly famous at writing songs regarding it.lol



Obviously there are plenty of exceptions to this, but the worst cases I've seen of guys continuing with really funky wacky self destructive  relationships have been brits.
Of course Americans and canadians,  or Europeans do so as well.

Seems you've decided to end the one relationship and move on, that's good from my perspective.
   A relationship is founded in mutual trust, I find it difficult to imagine youd have trusted that situation or person.


Good luck in Dnepro, it's one of the nicer cities in Ukraine.




 
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on January 15, 2019, 06:27:10 AM
Leaving kiev Sunday 13.  5 days of professional exams and then back to work.  I liked sumy.  I find kiev ok but I must admit I liked walking around sumy.  I'm from London and found kiev a bit too much like central London.  As to dating women I liked krimster s advice to find a country girl.  I really liked the vibe of sumy.  I'm really just indulging my enjoyment of Ukraine.  Having travelled Europe USA Africa Australia I always thought eastern Europe was dull and grey and oh my god have I got a thing for Ukranian women with grey eyes.  Somehow I no longer feel comfortable in the UK.  Ukraine feels more clean and relaxed and the women are so much more friendly.  Had a hair cut and wash for 170 so I gave her 200 so touchy feely.  I notice it between people so much more touching.  I'm thinking of dinipro end of January.

My view also, which was why I put up the thread about 'Anyone else dreaming of living in the FSU' etc. Granted having had the views of other posters £500 a month wouldn't be a great standard of living so I would need to get more than that in somehow. Still the draw of having many beautiful and 'friendly' women (unlike the UK) on hand makes it a dream I would never want to escape from, unless of course Russian tanks came rolling in, they don't feature in my dream, lol.

Practically though at this point in time I have family in the UK and need to up my wealth a bit so for me unfortunately it probably wouldn't be the move to make at present.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on January 15, 2019, 06:38:24 AM
Tom I'm impressed.  Visit many is difficult .  I tried a can you come out tonight ploy on f date tonight.  no chance.  I think an element of pre planning is required.  So yes I have a hot date planned in dinopro

Exactly! When I first brought this up with my trip to Lviv last year in the summer I was pilloried on here for not coming up with much (just two women), making mistakes and not making it work. Its easy though for a novice to make mistakes with it though first time around and yes pre-planning/messaging can help. I found that most girls want a bit of rapport built up beforehand, it doesn't have to be a lot but a prior message or two before asking them out. In fairness I understand why as neither of you know each other so its a bit of a blind date and if anything it can feel strange from the guys perspective also until you meet together.

Hence why its best to send out a few messages before you get there to get the ball rolling so you can ask the girl out say on the second or third message. If anything if out there already its better to be patient and do the message process route than hit a brick wall with a load of girls as in the long run its quicker and more rewarding. I also wouldn't bother to stae if you are out there or not, vague seems to be best out there it seems for FSU dating. Compared to visit one its a whole different ball game in approach, its preobably best to have a few girls lined up in advance if possible before going out there.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 15, 2019, 10:28:15 AM
A minimum of 36 hours notice of come out for a first date please.  Can you come out for a first date in an hours time has never worked for me anyware let alone f s u
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on January 15, 2019, 01:23:45 PM
Depends what method(s) you're using to get dates and meet women. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: ML on January 15, 2019, 02:44:38 PM
A minimum of 36 hours notice of come out for a first date please.  Can you come out for a first date in an hours time has never worked for me any where let alone f s u

For you maybe.

But many guys here (who were on the ground) have reported on contacting FSU gals (for first time) and meeting with them within an hour or two.

And be careful before you comment about these gals . . . because some of them are married to the guys here.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: krimster2 on January 15, 2019, 04:33:44 PM
The best way is for YOU - is to ALWAYS be prepared for a date!

Trench, for you this means clean underwear every day is a must!
remember what your mother told you when you were a ďwee ladĒ about being killed in an accident and what would happen if you had dirty underwear on!!!???

seriously, folks, you guys never ďhussledĒ women in Ukraine out somewhere in the market for instance?

OMG!!!  really!!!
I used to troll the big outdoor market in Kyiv at the womenís clothing section for the crem de la crem of the flower of Ukrainian womanhood

would melt your eyeballs off
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: LAman on January 15, 2019, 04:59:35 PM


But many guys here (who were on the ground) have reported on contacting FSU gals (for first time) and meeting with them within an hour or two.

 


You know ML, talk is cheap.  Many guys???  Sure I can believe girls just sitting at home for some guy to call her up for a quick date. Maybe a pensioner. Most, if not all, girls are gainfully employed.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 24, 2019, 07:09:18 AM
Due to still having not filed my tax I've delayed Dinipro until February.  Thinking of renting an automatic car from sixt unlimited mileage £170 a week.  I've driven a few KM in a car in the Ukraine and been a passenger in cars taxis and mini buses.  Any big issues I should know about? 

Things I know:  big pot holes, turning right on reds illegally, I have an international driving licence as in grey paper one year as well as photo card,  warm clothing for breakdowns, deer,


If I park in the street in dinipro will the car be ok ?


For example Rome Italy leave car un locked, no bags, parcel shelf off, glove compartment open, flat street out of gear hand-break off.  pay the street kid a few euros to watch car
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: krimster2 on January 24, 2019, 11:27:21 AM
"if I park in the street in dinipro will the car be ok ?"

NOPE!
in Ukraine, next morning your car will be resting on cinder blocks, tires and battery gone...

but since this is a common problem, there is an equally common solution...
paid parking garages/lots with guards run by the "parking mafia"
ask a local for directions to the nearest one, but you will have to walk awhile back and forth to your car
ahhh... fun times...

unless you have specific plans that require a car, would not recommend renting a "machina" because of all the hassle...
much easier to rent a car AND driver and they can be at your disposal 24/7 if you want
I can't remember how much I paid my drivers, it was so long ago, maybe 50 USD/day + petrol/lunch, etc

biggest driving dangers - extortion by cops!  clueless people on road, road rage pridorki, think Mad Max and you get an idea...
I bought a Mitsubishi Colt, when I lived in Sevastopol, and found it to be reasonable for the area
it's not Germany, so you don't generally need to do Auto-Ban speeds, under 70 KPH average town driving speed on a major road
be aware that pedestrians rarely look at the road before crossing it!!!


Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: SteveInBoston on January 24, 2019, 02:22:38 PM
Ok, back to reality...

Car on the street should be fine.  As anywhere, don't leave valuables in plain sight and lock the car.  And pick a well lit, public area. Of more concern would be damage from side-scraping and such in narrow roads.

Speed limit through towns is 50, but you will rarely see a speed limit sign posting this.  Just a town name sign, and then a similar one past the town with a diagonal red line through the town name.  Those are the bookend markers for speed reduction.

I got an earful from T when I blew through the first small town at 90 kph.  She said "didn't you see the sign?"; I responded, "what sign?" At the next town she pointed it out to me - the town nameplate.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: ML on January 24, 2019, 02:29:32 PM

Car on the street should be fine. 

Steve, I strongly disagree with you, and agree with Krim on this issue.
My wife has a lot of experience with this from family and friends.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: krimster2 on January 24, 2019, 02:31:19 PM
"Car on the street should be fine."

I assume you're talking overnight parking
NO, OVERNIGHT IS NOT OK!!!
day time parking is OK

here's how to tell for sure 100%!!!
do you see other cars parked on the street at night?
likely you will also not see park benches (torn up for firewood), manhole covers are worth $1 in scrap metal so they're gone to, don't fall down the hole!!!!
if you're in a neighborhood where there are no stray dogs, GTF out ASAP!!!!


Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: SteveInBoston on January 24, 2019, 02:52:53 PM
Our experiences differ, but then we parked in main areas of the city.

In Mariupol the car was left overnight on a street next to our apartment, which was a side street off one of the main streets from the city square.  In Kharkiv we again left the car overnight on the street next to the apartment, but that street was Nauky Ave, one of the major roads in the city.  In Poltava we parked in the apartment courtyard the first night and on the street the second night.  In Kyiv we parked on a side street in a cluster of new apartment buildings.

We have parked the car off the street in other towns and cities, but only during the day.  Also, it was not a rental, but a Mitsubishi Lancer that T has had for 8 years.  It's in great condition with the only sign of age from the model shape and the foggy headlights.

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 24, 2019, 03:12:26 PM
I've had problems with hire cars in the USA standing out as new from LA south
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: krimster2 on January 24, 2019, 04:22:25 PM
your experience was for a few days, try over a few years and then tell me...
Russian over night parking = Russian roulette - do ya feel lucky? well do ya?

try parking your car on a dark street in a major city in Ukraine and see how long it lasts
like I 'splained to ya, look around at night, if you don't see ANYONE parking on the street, there may be a reason for that!!!

I have seen cars on cinder blocks, tires missing, early in the AM, call AAA, good luck!!!!

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: krimster2 on January 24, 2019, 04:50:58 PM
" from LA south"

that area is ALMOST as bad as Ukraine!!!!!!  do not park over night on the street there!!!
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: JayH on January 24, 2019, 04:56:31 PM
Ok, back to reality...

Car on the street should be fine.  As anywhere, don't leave valuables in plain sight and lock the car.  And pick a well lit, public area. Of more concern would be damage from side-scraping and such in narrow roads.

Speed limit through towns is 50, but you will rarely see a speed limit sign posting this.  Just a town name sign, and then a similar one past the town with a diagonal red line through the town name.  Those are the bookend markers for speed reduction.

I got an earful from T when I blew through the first small town at 90 kph.  She said "didn't you see the sign?"; I responded, "what sign?" At the next town she pointed it out to me - the town nameplate.

With all due respect to ML and exposure -- the K is referencing a time long ago ( as he is overprone to do) ~!!

Steve offers solid comments - and note -it is recent!
I have had a car virtually everyday I have been in Ukraine -at times leaving it for days at a time- mostly left in unsecured street parking  . Note2 -- that represents more days than K lived in Ukraine !

While it can be true that a car could be molested -- I do not rate it much higher odds than if it was left unattended in an out of the way place anywhere in western countries.Certainly no worse than UK !

Additionally -I know Dnipro quite well and was there again a few months ago - and left the car day and night parked conveniently !

As an observation -- February is not a month I would choose to start driving in Ukraine -- it has been snowing heavily the last few days- and Feb is the coldest month. Also -- Dnipro city centre -- is quite compact and easy to get around - either walking or on trams.
Once there -I would rate it highly as a city where a car is not needed -I was there once for a week without using the car .So choosing accommodation location is important.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: krimster2 on January 24, 2019, 05:16:13 PM
"While it can be true that a car could be molested..."

not if the car is over 18......


xactly, my point, who wants a freakin molested car!!!!
then, it wouldn't "feel right" any more, and doubt would start to creep in
next thing ya know I'm lookin at other cars... sad...
so if you care, if you really, truly, care, get a garage....
otherwise, whatever.....
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: SteveInBoston on January 24, 2019, 05:35:53 PM
your experience was for a few days, try over a few years and then tell me...

like I 'splained to ya, look around at night, if you don't see ANYONE parking on the street, there may be a reason for that!!!


It was 2 months, but T has had the car for 8 years, perhaps a 1/4 of that time with it parked on the street.

The second sentence is very true - park where other cars are parked, never by itself on a street or alley.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: krimster2 on January 24, 2019, 07:41:41 PM
your mileage may vary in Ukraine
like real estate, it's all about "location"
also be aware in Ukraine of cops putting a locking device on your rented car and then demanding payment
another way your car could be stolen in Ukraine
but most common thing is being vandalized and pieces stolen...
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: JayH on January 25, 2019, 04:17:15 PM
your mileage may vary in Ukraine
like real estate, it's all about "location"
also be aware in Ukraine of cops putting a locking device on your rented car and then demanding payment
another way your car could be stolen in Ukraine
but most common thing is being vandalized and pieces stolen...

K ==  I know I poke at you about how long ago you were there ( living) :) -- but -- prior to  2014 dealing with the Police was like Russian roulette -that is true. I had many many incidents  with Police -- and  until Police in some areas got faster cars - I decided I would never stop !! Simpler to outrun them than to spend time arguing!
I had decided some time previously to never pay -in any circumstances !Needless to say -that caused plenty of issues in itself !Crimea was a hotspot for Police problems on the road!
It was nothing to have multiple attempts in one day of police attempting to -or stopping you.On one memorable day -- the same cop- in different locations -- stopped me on the way to pick up my lady- then on our way out to eat- then on our way home ! All with no cause -other than a reg nos from a different region !
Since 2014 - nothing like the previous problems . The only time since then a cop has looked for money was when I did not have my headlights on during the day after coming out of a servo -- and he suddenly changed his mind after I pulled out my phone and  took photo of his id !
In more recent times-  the Police are again taking interest in traffic issues - and have or are getting more up to date radar equipment . Some regions are much more active than others .
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: 2tallbill on January 25, 2019, 05:39:41 PM
As to trench and maybe Lyndon I think we brits have a more down to earth approach to women and no longer put them on pedestals as per the USA and Ausi guys

You want to lump us in one bunch all 300 million of us. I will be happy to do the
same for you.

At least we Americans don't stink, like you Brits. Don't you worry that you smell
bad and that any American will smell better than you? What will happen if your
girl compares you to an American who showers at least daily? compared to Brits
who change their sweaters twice each winter?

What about your uncircumcised knob? Don't you worry that it smells like dirty socks?
Maybe that is the reason that you haven't found a girl yet?

SHOCK as 8.4million Britons reveal they shower just once a week
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/847608/How-often-should-you-shower-daily-revealed


Stinky Brits take just FOUR baths and 227 showers each year
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/stinky-brits-take-just-four-4934422


The British are smelly
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/french-do-not-wash-official-but-the-british-are-smelly-1186193.html


What to do about a smelly penis
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322562.php


One in three British men snore, have smelly feet and fart a lot, study finds
http://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3749152/one-in-three-british-men-snore-have-smelly-feet-and-fart-a-lot-study-finds/


Startling number of Brits admit suffering from bad foot hygiene
http://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6497199/startling-number-of-brits-admit-suffering-from-bad-foot-hygiene/
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 26, 2019, 02:12:49 AM
Cheers Bill.  I guess you bit at my wind up.  Never a bad idea for the guys from the British colonies to remind their overlords to wash more often.  As to the circumcision debate yes cleaner but less sensation so why promote you country's abuse of male babies.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on January 26, 2019, 02:22:27 AM
Useful info on dinipro cars.  I was amazed to see winter tyre tire technology in action on my last trip to Ukraine  compared to my Mud and snow tyres tires in last week's UK snow.  The woman I'm meeting had suggested a road trip but was not so keen when I suggested February and suggested a future road trip as well as this February week in dinipro.   So I guess it will be uber or what ever she suggests.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: krimster2 on January 26, 2019, 06:50:04 AM
words of wisdom to those who have ears to listen...
the best approach towards dealing with ďproblemsĒ in Ukraine
is to simply avoid them in the first place...

after experiencing what happens to cars parked overnight in the streets of NYC and LA, I can tell you those places are a ďpiece of cakeĒ compared to streets in Ukraine...

sure, some people in Ukraine may go 6 months before their street parked car is vandalized and relieved of its tires or battery, some less, some more....
but sooner or later, one morning when you go to unlock your car, youíre going to have ďa little surpriseĒ...

so, decide which is less of a hassle for you, garage, or auto-repair....
donít rely on luck in Ukraine!!!!

in Ukraine, being "proactive" is much better than being "reactive"
i.e., condoms are cheaper than STD treatment, even though not every person is infected with an STD
you had BETTER start to think this way over there, otherwise you might lose more than auto parts...
after you live over there awhile, you will develop a defensive sense of paranoia, which travelers unfortunately, generally have not yet acquired...

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 16, 2019, 06:33:56 PM
Bags packed ready for 2 am bus to Heathrow.   Dinipro here I come for a week.  A little anxious as my last Ukrainian relationship turned into a farce when I realised she already had an English sugar daddy who lives 10 miles from me in the UK.  Sadly eyes wider open this time.  Shame as I liked the innocent new feel last time now I'm a little more jaded.  No back up plan either this lass and I hit it off or I stay in a hotel and rent a car and go drive about.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Davo on March 16, 2019, 06:50:15 PM
Good luck!!! ...... Iím off to Southern Russia next week for 18 days. Lost a few contacts over the last month (neglected them a little in conversation), but Iím definitely meeting the woman who started me down this path 2 years ago. I have no expectations of her at all and will be happy even if itís only a 10 minute coffee date.

Iím looking forward just as much to having a good extended holiday (itís been years) and exploring the country on my own. Iíve only planned the first three days and the rest is up in the air at the moment. Iíll go where were ever the wind takes me, in search of adventure 😀
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: LAman on March 16, 2019, 06:51:48 PM
Late january flying in with Austrian air lines.  Any advice please.

Couple months late, huh?
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: jone on March 16, 2019, 07:10:15 PM
Good luck!!! ...... Iím off to Southern Russia next week for 18 days. Lost a few contacts over the last month (neglected them a little in conversation), but Iím definitely meeting the woman who started me down this path 2 years ago. I have no expectations of her at all and will be happy even if itís only a 10 minute coffee date.

Iím looking forward just as much to having a good extended holiday (itís been years) and exploring the country on my own. Iíve only planned the first three days and the rest is up in the air at the moment. Iíll go where were ever the wind takes me, in search of adventure 😀

Udachi, Davo,

Post a smidgen now and then and tell us of your exploits.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 16, 2019, 08:58:57 PM
Yep few months late.  Had some professional exams to take.  Then my son passed his driving test so my play money went on a £600 car and £2000  insurance.   And maybe it's better wait and see if things cool down  before rushing in to a visit.  Certainly in f dating Ukrainian women have been the best at keeping the conversation going.  Boethius would say because they are the most desperate.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 16, 2019, 09:09:50 PM
No, I wouldnít say that. But if this is the Megan Fox look alike, I would say youíre thinking with the wrong organ.

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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Davo on March 17, 2019, 03:05:08 AM
Udachi, Davo,

Post a smidgen now and then and tell us of your exploits.

No worries..... I may be dropping in for some advice if things go pear shaped.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 17, 2019, 06:19:01 AM
Bags packed ready for 2 am bus to Heathrow.   Dinipro here I come for a week.  A little anxious as my last Ukrainian relationship turned into a farce when I realised she already had an English sugar daddy who lives 10 miles from me in the UK.  Sadly eyes wider open this time.  Shame as I liked the innocent new feel last time now I'm a little more jaded.  No back up plan either this lass and I hit it off or I stay in a hotel and rent a car and go drive about.
Thank you to be honest of private details of your previous relationship.
Where are you staying in Dnipro? How  do you prepare your housing?

I always advise to stay around the center of Dnipro (Not in Moct) but along the river or not so far from the tramway 1 which follows the old Karl Marx Prospect
Send me a PM if needed
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on March 17, 2019, 09:22:28 AM
Bags packed ready for 2 am bus to Heathrow.   Dinipro here I come for a week.  A little anxious as my last Ukrainian relationship turned into a farce when I realised she already had an English sugar daddy who lives 10 miles from me in the UK.  Sadly eyes wider open this time.  Shame as I liked the innocent new feel last time now I'm a little more jaded.  No back up plan either this lass and I hit it off or I stay in a hotel and rent a car and go drive about.


Why jaded? You've openly said here you like these 'short' relationships.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is a lady who:
You're openly going there to bed your Megan Fox look-a-like, have ignored the previous red flags and know what you are (likely to be) getting into.

I don't know your relationship with this lady and hope it all works out for you but don't blame your 'anxiety' on being jaded by the process when you don't pay any respect to trying to have a proper go at finding a decent lady and serious LTR.


Eyes wider open...clearly  :-X
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: LAman on March 17, 2019, 09:54:48 AM

 

Eyes wider open...clearly  :-X




No, Eyes wider shut...Ö clearly
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on March 17, 2019, 10:14:46 AM
Sorry LA Man, British sarcasm  ;)
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: ML on March 17, 2019, 11:15:49 AM
You're openly going there to bed your Megan Fox look-a-like, . . .

And, she will be having her period during the week you are there.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 17, 2019, 12:01:00 PM
And, she will be having her period during the week you are there.
:ROFL:
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 17, 2019, 12:02:52 PM
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Title: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: 2tallbill on March 17, 2019, 12:07:53 PM
No worries..... I may be dropping in for some advice if things go pear shaped.

Davo,

Start a new thread or ask the mods to move this to a new one.
That way your stuff doesn't get buried and we don't hijack the
thread here.
   
Uspehov! (success!!)

Bill
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 19, 2019, 12:03:46 AM
Accommodion her appartment.   Flying start until she saw my previous visa stamps.  Now asking for a new mobile phone )))))
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on March 19, 2019, 01:55:24 AM
Accommodion her appartment.   Flying start until she saw my previous visa stamps.  Now asking for a new mobile phone )))))


Well, the saving grace is it only took her a day. Plenty of time to get out of there and make a new plan...but we all know how this one will play out.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 19, 2019, 03:16:27 AM
James

You didn't tell her that you had been to UA , recently, and why?

Now you are already on the back foot((

So,  are you hanging around ?

Is Megan Fox worth a new phone?  I have worn the t-shirt... So, have you..Are you passing her tests?

I have bought a mobile phone for three FSU ladies... My ex wife, my fiancťe and a woman I failed,  drastically with..and now we are still friendly 15 years on..

Spend wisely)



Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 19, 2019, 03:45:34 AM
Accommodion her appartment.   Flying start until she saw my previous visa stamps.  Now asking for a new mobile phone )))))
Didn't understand all because i am not a native english speaker, tell me more about how much you pay for the rental (square meters, which location because i know the city very well). How much days have you paid?

And i will give you my opinion about the price.

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 19, 2019, 04:31:59 AM
One thing interesting :
You should scroll every prostitute site to check if your lady don't belong to the pro or semi pro staff.
Or you sign for the two hours  fee of 40$ and you don't have to worry with the dating option.

Better to speak some russian to check this one.
So your plan B is to open a Badoo or Tinder profile ASAP to rebound.
If you need some places where to set up an appointment with a lady ask me.

 That's the problem with VO, if no planning then you are f.....
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: JayH on March 19, 2019, 04:34:05 AM
Didn't understand all because i am not a native english speaker, tell me more about how much you pay for the rental (square meters, which location because i know the city very well). How much days have you paid?

And i will give you my opinion about the price.

Pat --he is staying in her apartment.
He will be paying about the cost of a new phone !

It would be interesting to know where Apartment  is ( for a lot of reasons)--     I also know Dnipro very well !
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 19, 2019, 05:05:55 AM
Pat --he is staying in her apartment.
He will be paying about the cost of a new phone !

It would be interesting to know where Apartment  is ( for a lot of reasons)--     I also know Dnipro very well !
He could pay by sex or paying her a phone. That's honest.

But now it will be complicated to bring an other girl to this appartment.  8)
It will be also complicated to date some other women  :P , the landlord could use some retaliation and close the door and confiscate his belonging  :D . As a woman i would do such a thing to have a good laugh of him  :clapping: . 

SO LESSON ONE : AVOID THE LAZY AND GREEDY ROAD AND RENT YOUR OWN FLAT.
AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO YOU DO IT YOURSELF NOT WITH THE HELP OF SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW (no you don't know her even if you have skyped for weeks with her).
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 19, 2019, 05:07:12 AM
Davo,

Start a new thread or ask the mods to move this to a new one.
That way your stuff doesn't get buried and we don't hijack the
thread here.
   
Uspehov! (success!!)

Bill

..and give us a clue where in Southern Russia..Quite few of us know that region, well..))

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 19, 2019, 05:07:43 AM
Pat --he is staying in her apartment.
He will be paying about the cost of a new phone !

It would be interesting to know where Apartment  is ( for a lot of reasons)--     I also know Dnipro very well !
Yes we are interested in knowing where is this damned flat :D because if he is very far away his sexual life for the next seven days is likely to be very smooth, better for him to use his hand.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 19, 2019, 05:16:28 AM
Pat --he is staying in her apartment.
He will be paying about the cost of a new phone !

It would be interesting to know where Apartment  is ( for a lot of reasons)--     I also know Dnipro very well !

I am trying to think of one good reason why we should know...
It is none of our business..period..


Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 19, 2019, 09:27:16 AM
Accommodion her appartment.   Flying start until she saw my previous visa stamps.  Now asking for a new mobile phone )))))


Well, who could not have seen this coming?


You want the "relationship"?  Buy her the phone.


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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: jone on March 19, 2019, 09:49:20 AM
Accommodion her appartment.   Flying start until she saw my previous visa stamps.  Now asking for a new mobile phone )))))

Depends on what phone she wants.   If its an Apple iPhone, you're screwed.   She's playing you for money.  But if it is simply a smart phone that is internet capable so she can talk on WhatsApp or Viber, hell, what's a hundred USD?

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 19, 2019, 10:30:02 AM
Depends on what phone she wants.   If its an Apple iPhone, you're screwed.   She's playing you for money.  But if it is simply a smart phone that is internet capable so she can talk on WhatsApp or Viber, hell, what's a hundred USD?
Jone is right, if this lady is fine with you there is nothing bad to thank her and please her. But normally she shouldn't ask. You should do it as a present.
You should have offer her a present normally. Have you done such thing?
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: SANDRO43 on March 19, 2019, 01:03:13 PM
You should scroll every prostitute site to check if your lady don't belong to the pro or semi pro staff.
Or visit my DD Gallery (http://www.floriani.it/sitirussi/doublegallery-eng.htm) to see if she is among the 97 listed there ;).
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: jone on March 19, 2019, 01:57:34 PM
Trying not to be the cynic here, but, really?   What are you supposed to be?   A sex fiend?  Traveling over to Ukraine to look for a wife is not unusual.   What is weird to me is that seeing your entrance/exit stamps is cause for alarm. 

So perhaps just the opposite might be true?   She was trying to gauge what a Rube you were by how much you know her country.   Seeing your experience would put her on alert that you are a traveler who knows the system, somewhat, and she is now going to try to see what she can get before she goes her own way (as in dumps you). 

Some of these gals are, indeed mercenary.   And some are just cautious but really great gals.   You must go through the process to try to determine who is who.  However, until a relationship is established, Pagagonie and I are in complete agreement.  An honest woman would not ask for a substantial gift.   Especially if you are in the early phases of your relationship.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 19, 2019, 02:57:35 PM
James, Megan Fox is going to come at a price, but can you beat her down from a new iphone ;D See if you can do it!

If you ask her why she needs it she will likely give some excuse, better NOT to encourage that behaviour, it's typical Ukrainian girl manipulation technique. Just ignore anything reason she gives for you to buy her stuff, up to mid range restaurants, local travel costs and basic entertainment costs only.

If you want your leg over it's a different matter, in which case discuss your needs and as said above what she'll fold at, maybe just a meal, or maybe just a beer :)

Serious relationship wise this may be difficult. She may had it mind to take you for a (shopping) ride from the word go. She may have been spooked by the number of FSU stamps in your passport as she might thought you already are knowledgeable at the game since most will probably prefer a guy who they can play easier who is fairly new to the scene.

That or she may have written you down as a sex tourist on seeing so many stamps hence the move to pressing more on the mobile phone front. I think if you're after a serious relationship forget about buying her the phone doing so will send out a pay for play message and then a serious relationship is off the cards. Instead get down to some local entertainment venues and see if you can get on well.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 19, 2019, 03:28:27 PM
If you want your leg over it's a different matter, in which case discuss your needs and as said above what she'll fold at, maybe just a meal, or maybe just a beer :)


Great advice for building a lasting relationship.  "Honey, I want sex.  I'll pay you by buying a beer or, if you really perform, perhaps a mid priced dinner." :rolleyes: :puke:


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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 19, 2019, 03:50:58 PM

Great advice for building a lasting relationship.  "Honey, I want sex.  I'll pay you by buying a beer or, if you really perform, perhaps a mid priced dinner." :rolleyes: :puke:


This post was composed without the aid of google.

That's how cheaply they can come over there. The iPhone is just the opening offer, it's up to James what he wishes bid up to for a chance to get it on with Megan Fox. Now I ask you would the real Megan Fox be had as cheaply, even for a new mobile phone? It's the way it is over there. Like I said it's only if a serious relationship is no longer goer or James prefers it that way for this girl. It may be that she's just that type of girl.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 19, 2019, 03:55:19 PM
No, it isn't "the way it is over there", if you meet a normal woman.

You are basically saying that every man who married a UW, or is involved with a woman in Ukraine, is married to, or involved with, a prostitute.  That's incredibly insulting to the women, and the men, for that matter.

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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 19, 2019, 04:09:40 PM
No, it isn't "the way it is over there", if you meet a normal woman.

You are basically saying that every man who married a UW, or is involved with a woman in Ukraine, is married to, or involved with, a prostitute.  That's incredibly insulting to the women, and the men, for that matter.

This post was composed without the aid of google.

I mean those that are playing.

The serious relationships of course don't which is why I say if James wants a serious relationship put the shopping & sex aside and see if she'll get down to some other activity with him, sightseeing or something.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 20, 2019, 12:52:49 AM
Sadly due to lack of work visas in London many Russian speakers resort to prostitution in London there are thousands of them on my doorstep why would I fly 3500 km.  Many friends have advised use the prostitute solution it's not for me.   I like the whole 24 7 package personally I can't imagine anything more lonely than walking in paying and walking out each to their own but for me it would be like a knife cutting my soul in half.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 20, 2019, 12:55:15 AM
2pm picking up a hire car at airport.  My first proper driving in Ukraine.  I've only driven a few km In a g f car before
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 20, 2019, 01:05:43 AM
Personally I put no value on sex.  Luckily I had good looks in my youth.  In my 19 year virtually sexless marriage my looks and self esteem took a knock.  Now I'm having a bit of a renaissance.   I put value on the other 22 hours a day.  For me a woman is either a zero or a 1 at sex.  It's the livabilty I rate the fun factor out side bed.  Megan fox has only asked for the phone once and said I have her her grandmother's look when she did so I think I'm slowly getting the hang of this
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 20, 2019, 01:34:47 AM
Megan fox look alike met first husband at university and had a daughter .  Second husband after one year dropped the bomb shell he was in a ling term relationship in Moscow for the last 5 years.  So she went on the internet and we met.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 20, 2019, 01:55:39 AM
Retrospectively landing at dinipro airport with Austrian airlines was interesting.  Landing plane got to 50 meters from the ground before full boost climb and about a half hour circuit and back on same landing path.  Broken concrete landing strip lots of derelict military building lots of old military functioning radar trucks and lots of armed jets missiled up and ready to go.  Lots of questions at pass port control
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on March 20, 2019, 01:56:03 AM
Sadly due to lack of work visas in London many Russian speakers resort to prostitution in London there are thousands of them on my doorstep why would I fly 3500 km.  Many friends have advised use the prostitute solution it's not for me.   I like the whole 24 7 package personally I can't imagine anything more lonely than walking in paying and walking out each to their own but for me it would be like a knife cutting my soul in half.


Ah so what you're looking for is a girlfriend experience prostitute...most would consider that an 'arrangement' not a relationship.

Personally I put no value on sex.  Luckily I had good looks in my youth.  In my 19 year virtually sexless marriage my looks and self esteem took a knock.  Now I'm having a bit of a renaissance.   I put value on the other 22 hours a day.  For me a woman is either a zero or a 1 at sex.  It's the livabilty I rate the fun factor out side bed.  Megan fox has only asked for the phone once and said I have her her grandmother's look when she did so I think I'm slowly getting the hang of this


You've show in previous relationships that you do put a value on sex. The people reading your posts weren't born yesterday.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 20, 2019, 05:53:46 AM
Trench you need to visit dnipro angels in abundance.   Nice cafes.  Youthful vibe.  The  big question can I drive a manual gearbox after 21 years
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 20, 2019, 06:20:05 AM
  Lots of questions at pass port control

Like...?
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 20, 2019, 07:13:20 AM
Reason for visit.  Who visiting.  Where you will be travelling.  Where are you staying.   Will you be travelling to donestk.  When are you leaving.  Kiev is just stamp and go.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 20, 2019, 07:38:05 AM
Reason for visit.  Who visiting.  Where you will be travelling.  Where are you staying.   Will you be travelling to donestk.  When are you leaving.  Kiev is just stamp and go.

It'll be because Dnipro is not a place tourists generally visit. So don't do what SteveinBoston did and say your there as a tourist when he went to visit Mariupol, they just won't believe it as no one visits those places for tourism. Your not as close to the front line as Mariupol so sounds like they went easier on you. The answer in both instances is just say 'zeks tourist', that is the only sort of tourist you should be proclaiming to be in those places :D Then they will understand precisely and let you through without further questioning. If they do happen to ask any further questions just stop them by this time shouting 'Zeks Tourist!, Zeks Tourist!' loudly, that should certainly sort the situation quickly for you ;)
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 20, 2019, 09:10:11 AM
Reason for visit.  Who visiting.  Where you will be travelling.  Where are you staying.   Will you be travelling to donestk.  When are you leaving.  Kiev is just stamp and go.


So basically, the same questions (other than who you are visiting) asked at any border control world over.


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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: SteveInBoston on March 20, 2019, 10:47:31 AM
It'll be because Dnipro is not a place tourists generally visit. So don't do what SteveinBoston did and say your there as a tourist when he went to visit Mariupol, they just won't believe it as no one visits those places for tourism.

Itís these little nuggets that makes me almost believe Trench is a person instead of a mysogynist AI construct of some computer science majorís senior project.


They believed me when I stated I was visiting Mariupol as a tourist.  They just advised me it is not the best place to tour around these days.  I was delayed at the checkpoint for background checks during Nov/Dec 2018 martial law in Ukraine.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 20, 2019, 01:36:54 PM
So now I know what the snow hides potholes 1 meter diameter by up to 30 cm deep 2 lane highway at 110 km .  It's like a video game but for real.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 20, 2019, 02:35:07 PM
How's it going with Megan fox though?
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: jone on March 20, 2019, 04:23:17 PM
How's it going with Megan fox though?

She was the pothole!
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 21, 2019, 12:04:40 AM
Well Megan fox so far is good.  Except the obvious red flags of 2 recent failed marriages and doesn't work and yet seems to live well in the centre of dnipro. Slightly dusty appartment.   Cat size dog that never gets walked.  One meal out for 3 for £30.  I've probably purchased half the groceries and been asked to pay 10 pounds to school class activities.  Other than that very affectionate intelligent and lovable with.  Certainly understands service pipeline infrastructure so that was true.  I like her she's very calm but likable.  Golden  coloured almond eyes and a gym fit body.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: JayH on March 21, 2019, 12:59:58 AM
Yes we are interested in knowing where is this damned flat :D

Well Megan fox so far is good.  Except the obvious red flags of 2 recent failed marriages and doesn't work and yet seems to live well in the centre of dnipro. Slightly dusty appartment.   Cat size dog that never gets walked.  One meal out for 3 for £30.  I've probably purchased half the groceries and been asked to pay 10 pounds to school class activities.  Other than that very affectionate intelligent and lovable with.  Certainly understands service pipeline infrastructure so that was true.  I like her she's very calm but likable.  Golden  coloured almond eyes and a gym fit body.

Pat quote was responding to my comment  about apartment  location  -- and Moby responded  it was none of my business.,
As so often is the case  -- Moby did not get the point being made.
Dnipro centre is not cheap -- Kyiv like prices etc
That alone says nothing -- and one point I thought of ( ie "some" girls will rent a place when a guy is coming -- some even for one day!!!)
Not to say any of that is this case -- but -- no visible means of support -- agreeing that he could stay etc  all raise more questions than obvious answers -yet ! :)

A btw -- on street alongside Most City  is a relatively new Xiaomi   phone store -- very decent phones   UAH 6000  -10,000 . Steve ( Boston) recently bought a Pocophone for his fiancee  and it would be interesting his comments on this ( or his lady)  .Great phones -- I have bought a few different models now --great camera and getting better all the time .

Another btw --I am not big on jumping to conclusions  - there can be a lot of explanations  eg  I met a lady who lived in THE most expensive building in Dnipro and drove top of range Merc - incredible looks -- etc etc had just divorced after husband traded her for a younger model ! She has walked away with plenty by any standard  and she was only mid thirties.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 21, 2019, 01:53:10 AM
I think you're doing ok James. She could be trying to sound you out after you were not forthcoming with the phone. So I wouldn't encourage her by voluntarily getting a phone for her. That would mark you out as a pushover and good for all sorts of other stuff. I think at first she or most women will be apprehensive, cautious, etc until they are more familiar with the type of guy you are.

At the moment I think there is some unexplained stuff like how she is living quite nicely, doesn't seem too hard up but then asks you to buy her a phone, etc. Some grocery buying and meal out is fair enough as the guy usually pays plus you're staying with her rent free so all's fair as they say. She could be playing the long game or you may have put her in her place about by refusing to buy her the phone. Let's see how this plays out I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 21, 2019, 03:46:03 AM
Well Megan fox so far is good.  Except the obvious red flags of 2 recent failed marriages and doesn't work and yet seems to live well in the centre of dnipro. Slightly dusty appartment.   Cat size dog that never gets walked.  One meal out for 3 for £30.  I've probably purchased half the groceries and been asked to pay 10 pounds to school class activities.  Other than that very affectionate intelligent and lovable with.  Certainly understands service pipeline infrastructure so that was true.  I like her she's very calm but likable.  Golden  coloured almond eyes and a gym fit body.


From her perspective, your red flag should be you're cheap. 


You are staying with her.  The very least you could do is buy all the groceries while you are there, or alternately, take her out for dinner every night.


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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 21, 2019, 04:42:53 AM
Well Megan fox so far is good.  Except the obvious red flags of 2 recent failed marriages and doesn't work and yet seems to live well in the centre of dnipro. Slightly dusty appartment.   Cat size dog that never gets walked.  One meal out for 3 for £30.  I've probably purchased half the groceries and been asked to pay 10 pounds to school class activities.  Other than that very affectionate intelligent and lovable with.  Certainly understands service pipeline infrastructure so that was true.  I like her she's very calm but likable.  Golden  coloured almond eyes and a gym fit body.
cats size horses who make one bedroom busy lol.
Don't be cautious about one marriage failed, that's common in Ukraine.
Also i see nothing wrong her asking you 10 bucks for class activities and of course half of the groceries. If you sleep with her if she sees you as a real mate it's ok for me.
3 meal out for 30 is ok.
Does she have children? So you meet them or live with them?

I would recommand you to go to the Tsoum last floor where they have opened a new restaurant cafetaria, the design is nice and prices low. It's the old supermarket (soviet style) beside Passage (the modern one) all in the very very center of Dnipro.
You have also this chocolad coffee one hundred meter of Passage on Karl Marx Avenue (in the opposite direction of the railways station), along tranway 1, right sidewalk. Your GF will like it and it makes children crazy.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 21, 2019, 11:04:28 AM
I think I probably don't have a very good radar as to who is good and bad as a woman
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: jone on March 21, 2019, 11:08:50 AM
The simple fact is you should be paying all of the expenses while you are there.   And your visit should also stand out as a special time.   That you are staying in her apartment and not ponying up is reproachable.

My suggestion is that you make your time special by taking her to the aquapark or a small trip somewhere where you get a nice hotel or something that does not make you out to be a greedy bastard.   She is evaluating you as a future husband.   Provide for her and act like one.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 21, 2019, 11:16:23 AM
Pat quote was responding to my comment  about apartment  location  -- and Moby responded  it was none of my business.,
As so often is the case  -- Moby did not get the point being made.
Dnipro centre is not cheap -- Kyiv like prices etc
That alone says nothing -- and one point I thought of ( ie "some" girls will rent a place when a guy is coming -- some even for one day!!!)
Not to say any of that is this case -- but -- no visible means of support -- agreeing that he could stay etc  all raise more questions than obvious answers -yet ! :)

A btw -- on street alongside Most City  is a relatively new Xiaomi   phone store -- very decent phones   UAH 6000  -10,000 . Steve ( Boston) recently bought a Pocophone for his fiancee  and it would be interesting his comments on this ( or his lady)  .Great phones -- I have bought a few different models now --great camera and getting better all the time .

Another btw --I am not big on jumping to conclusions  - there can be a lot of explanations  eg  I met a lady who lived in THE most expensive building in Dnipro and drove top of range Merc - incredible looks -- etc etc had just divorced after husband traded her for a younger model ! She has walked away with plenty by any standard  and she was only mid thirties.
Yes there is nice new Xiaomi shop in Dnipro beside Moct. That's nice.For the lady who drives a top Merc, i would ask her how is she is going to maintain this standard because even if the car is her, and she owns a flat (sounds not a red flag after an ukrainian marriage), the question is how is she monthly fed in grivnas? What kind of job or business will juice at least 1000$ which seems the minimum for such kind of life in Dnipro, knowing that ex spouse owns her nothing after the divorce in term of alimony (except if she has some childs, but that is so easy to mislead the court....)
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: jone on March 21, 2019, 11:18:23 AM
There is no one on the forum who knows Dnipro better than Pat.  He has spent years pursuing women in that city.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 21, 2019, 11:21:10 AM
I think I probably don't have a very good radar as to who is good and bad as a woman

I don't think it you, I think a lot of guys don't, I didn't during my past three years at this game. I feel more better on that front now having met a fair few FSW. Though I wouldn't say I wouldn't definitely get it right all the time though. Strange stuff seems to go on out there and it takes a bit of experience to see the more common odd stuff let alone the even more bizarre and far out situations.

I agree with Jones's second bit of advice about the aqua park, etc. Make it a fun time and get her mind away from material thoughts. Apart from the food, drink, groceries and the basic entertainment expenses I wouldn't go buying this girl stuff at this stage, it would send out all the wrong messages. Being a nice guy and doing so as I have found out in Ukraine is not something you get rewarded for other than for sex.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 21, 2019, 11:35:55 AM
There is no one on the forum who knows Dnipro better than Pat.  He has spent years pursuing women in that city.
lolIt's true that is the city i know the best in Ukraine.

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: jone on March 21, 2019, 11:49:52 AM
Funny thing.   When ever I'd talk to a gal from Dnipro I'd ask her if she was a scientist or descended from missile scientists.   That would always get a giggle.   Dnipro was one of the closed cities in the Soviet Union because it held all of the scientists who worked on the guided missile systems and rocket motors.

I scored an attaboy for knowing the history of the city.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: ML on March 21, 2019, 12:00:08 PM
I loved the river walk in Dnipro.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 21, 2019, 02:13:36 PM
I think I probably don't have a very good radar as to who is good and bad as a woman

In your country, if a woman you have never met in person invited you to come stay in her apartment, with her and her young child, what would you think?  Well, I know what you think - "As long as she looks like Megan Fox and I can shag her, I don't really care."

This post was composed without the aid of google.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 21, 2019, 04:01:30 PM
Funny thing.   When ever I'd talk to a gal from Dnipro I'd ask her if she was a scientist or descended from missile scientists.   That would always get a giggle.   Dnipro was one of the closed cities in the Soviet Union because it held all of the scientists who worked on the guided missile systems and rocket motors.

I scored an attaboy for knowing the history of the city.
Yeah, it was a forbidden city during the ussr time. THere are some rockets exposed in Dnipro. Don't remember exactly where now.
There are still some forbidden cities in Russia.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: JayH on March 21, 2019, 04:43:32 PM
The simple fact is you should be paying all of the expenses while you are there.   And your visit should also stand out as a special time.   That you are staying in her apartment and not ponying up is reproachable.

My suggestion is that you make your time special by taking her to the aquapark or a small trip somewhere where you get a nice hotel or something that does not make you out to be a greedy bastard.   She is evaluating you as a future husband.   Provide for her and act like one.

The aquapark > ? The weather is still a minus zero overnight and max more like 6C -12C max in forecast . Although better than last year not yet swimming weather -unless you want to give the child hypothermia !! ;D
The aquapark   in Dnipro is brilliant -- always lot's of people when the weather is good -- the associated river activities good fun for anyone !
As for knowing Dnipro -- knowledge is not mutually exclusive !
 My long term ex went to university there and came from a city not far away -- so I have spent quite a lot of time in the city itself-- and the region. In fact -I was based there for 3 months in 2014/5  and have been there many times . I was there last summer for a week or so ( I wrote on forum in a thread somewhere !)
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: JayH on March 21, 2019, 04:51:41 PM
Yes there is nice new Xiaomi shop in Dnipro beside Moct. That's nice.For the lady who drives a top Merc, i would ask her how is she is going to maintain this standard because even if the car is her, and she owns a flat (sounds not a red flag after an ukrainian marriage), the question is how is she monthly fed in grivnas? What kind of job or business will juice at least 1000$ which seems the minimum for such kind of life in Dnipro, knowing that ex spouse owns her nothing after the divorce in term of alimony (except if she has some childs, but that is so easy to mislead the court....)

Pat -- my point was that  anything is possible-- and not making assumptions  can be a good idea !
I did not want to explain more in post -- but -- the lady is independently wealthy ( by any standard) .I did not meet her through any dating site -- but she was next door neighbour in apartment block.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 22, 2019, 03:58:23 AM
Pat -- my point was that  anything is possible-- and not making assumptions  can be a good idea !
I did not want to explain more in post -- but -- the lady is independently wealthy ( by any standard) .I did not meet her through any dating site -- but she was next door neighbour in apartment block.
That's nice to meet local aside from dating sites.
That's very valuable.
I like to understand how people live, which problems they have, how their society is working, what is the real money and jobs they have. But when your interests are or could be involved it's time to ask yourself some simple questions like how does she lives, where the money comes from? How did she get this business? Who is the owner of the flat? Sounds like basics, sounds like not your rude maybe, but that's good to know.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 22, 2019, 07:55:29 AM
That's nice to meet local aside from dating sites.
That's very valuable.
I like to understand how people live, which problems they have, how their society is working, what is the real money and jobs they have. But when your interests are or could be involved it's time to ask yourself some simple questions like how does she lives, where the money comes from? How did she get this business? Who is the owner of the flat? Sounds like basics, sounds like not your rude maybe, but that's good to know.

Could be time to ask the girl these questions, her response could be interesting. I tend to find UW can be more honest in answering such questions than other questions. I think there is something about them where they like to tell about their lot in life and how life is for them. I don't think you need to know a girl long before she opens up if you ask, after a certain time they may tell you anyway, it's like it's a burden they have to get off their chest. It could be worth James's while asking her about this now, it could really move the relationship on a bit I think.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 22, 2019, 08:30:09 AM
Trench,

Why DO you post such drivel?

Many ladies are proud and are not as desperate as you would have us believe.

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 22, 2019, 08:45:43 AM
Could be time to ask the girl these questions, her response could be interesting. I tend to find UW can be more honest in answering such questions than other questions. I think there is something about them where they like to tell about their lot in life and how life is for them. I don't think you need to know a girl long before she opens up if you ask, after a certain time they may tell you anyway, it's like it's a burden they have to get off their chest. It could be worth James's while asking her about this now, it could really move the relationship on a bit I think.
Trench, i would say that was not my experience.
You belong to the family core and would hear a lot of private stuff about everything through your wife. Yes.
On an other hand you will not know a lot, or almost nothing except if you come directly and upfront and ask her.
Or you listen her for hours and months and you can get a picture provided that she don't want to hide something.
But even if an answer is not an answer, inacurrate, or imagine that's a know lie all this will help you to figure out where is the truth.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 22, 2019, 10:33:07 AM
I have paid hire car . All groceries apart from what she already had.  All restaurant  bills.  And 600 ie 20 for nail salon.  No new mobile phone.  I think 2 ex husbands are paying the rent
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 22, 2019, 01:15:13 PM
I have paid hire car . All groceries apart from what she already had.  All restaurant  bills.  And 600 ie 20 for nail salon.  No new mobile phone.  I think 2 ex husbands are paying the rent

Goes to figure, if theirs a child involved then one may have to pay also possible maybe part of a divorce settlement. Might be interestign to know if the flat is actually a rental or bought, might be someinteresting tie ups maybe. Speculation might be if their is any friends with benefits situations invovlved. A bit of tactful prying when she seems at a time when she might be a bit open, possibly over a meal out might reveal a bit more maybe. Something interesting might be going on here.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 22, 2019, 01:40:03 PM
Yes I think both ex husbands ask for side benefits.  Obviously she says they don't get a ride but I was not born yesterday.   I'm starting to understand f s u dating.  Basically if you worry who your woman sleeps with don't date fsu  just enjoy the moment.  If you worry all that will happen is you are more putty in their hands.  You have to maintain a mindset of bountiful supply if you start adopting the one attitude you are sunk.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on March 22, 2019, 01:48:33 PM
Yes I think both ex husbands ask for side benefits.  Obviously she says they don't get a ride but I was not born yesterday.   I'm starting to understand f s u dating.  Basically if you worry who your woman sleeps with don't date fsu  just enjoy the moment.  If you worry all that will happen is you are more putty in their hands.  You have to maintain a mindset of bountiful supply if you start adopting the one attitude you are sunk.


Personally, I think your mindset going into this visit was all wrong and during this visit has been all wrong. You knew you were going to visit the wrong sort for a serious long-term relationship and now you're stereotyping it as normal FSU behaviour. You ignored all of the red flags to get your leg over with Megan Fox and are now rationalising it.


Then again, you could just be as paranoid as your mate Trench.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 22, 2019, 01:55:53 PM
Tom  don't care having a blast thanks and she looks and dresses better than Megan fox.  I don't think I've seen such a hot looking brunet in London ever.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: lyndontom on March 22, 2019, 02:05:40 PM
Tom  don't care having a blast thanks and she looks and dresses better than Megan fox.  I don't think I've seen such a hot looking brunet in London ever.


Well, as long as you realise what you're in is a mutually beneficial arrangement and not a relationship...


Be braced for some here to confirm your status as a sex tourist. There are hot sugar babies in London, as much as you an Trench protest to the contrary.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 22, 2019, 02:11:22 PM
Probably a psychologist dream.  I'm dating back the age of woman and child the same as the start of my divorce.  A 20 year relationship that once the kids came along was virtually sexless.   So I've been able to live a moment in time.  Maybe Megan fox and I work out maybe we don't.   Life from conception to death is  a gamble
Title: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: 2tallbill on March 22, 2019, 02:12:43 PM
Tom  don't care having a blast thanks and she looks and dresses better than Megan fox.  I don't think I've seen such a hot looking brunet in London ever.

James,

I hope everything works out for you but I highly recommend having
a back up plan.


Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 22, 2019, 02:13:25 PM
I don't think I've seen such a hot looking brunet in London ever.

I am sure of that....Brunettes, perhaps?
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 22, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Sure there are thick sugar babes in London but one with an engineering degree and not totally  in love with themselves is not easy to find
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 22, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
Bill there is a back up plan.  See where this road leads.  If necessary end relationship and Start again.  Definetly with a Ukrainian as the 2 I have dated have been exactly what I like in a woman except their network of lovers and ex husbands
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Patagonie on March 22, 2019, 04:00:29 PM
Bill there is a back up plan.  See where this road leads.  If necessary end relationship and Start again.  Definetly with a Ukrainian as the 2 I have dated have been exactly what I like in a woman except their network of lovers and ex husbands
Life for young FSU women is accelerated by five to ten years.
As i suppose you are in the fourties the ladies you are dating are at least 35, probably in the beginning of 40.
So you cannot expect them to be blank from their birth. Marriage, divorce, lovers that's common for this age.
And network is encapsulated in women soul, it is exactly a great composant of their status in the society.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Nightwish on March 22, 2019, 04:03:39 PM
Bill there is a back up plan.  See where this road leads.  If necessary end relationship and Start again.  Definetly with a Ukrainian as the 2 I have dated have been exactly what I like in a woman except their network of lovers and ex husbands

Why? You are proudly being one of them, you are not seeking a relationship or a wife, you want to "have a blast" aka you want sex with beautiful ladies and are getting just that - mission accomplished I would say.

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Hammer2722 on March 22, 2019, 07:35:32 PM
Why? You are proudly being one of them, you are not seeking a relationship or a wife, you want to "have a blast" aka you want sex with beautiful ladies and are getting just that - mission accomplished I would say.


Well said.  :clapping:
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 22, 2019, 08:54:15 PM
 :rolleyes:
Sure there are thick sugar babes in London but one with an engineering degree and not totally  in love with themselves is not easy to find


You are just like Trench

Plenty of local lasses to be found..

Some of us choose to look overseas..some make excuses



Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: rwd123 on March 23, 2019, 12:45:36 AM
James - you are a sex tourist in denial.

No woman fit for a long-term relationship would invite a man from a foreign country to stay with her without first meeting him (and developing a relationship).

You are cheap, and you are getting milked. Enjoy the phone sex because there is an inevitable pothole you'll eventually realise you have stepped in. Admit it for what it is - a FWB online hook-up. Nothing immoral about that, but you seem to be lying to yourself and immigration officials.

Keep calm and carry on in the knowledge you are a common garden-variety sex tourist.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 23, 2019, 01:19:37 AM
.

No woman fit for a long-term relationship would invite a man from a foreign country to stay with her without first meeting him (and developing a relationship).

May be you have a point..

My now ex Russian wife ca.e to stay at my apartment in Cyprus the first time we met. Not the same bedroom .. I was a gentleman...for as long as possible..

When I first visited SC, I stayed at her apartment.  We had v chatted for five months and decided it was plain silly for me to stay at another place...



Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 23, 2019, 06:23:26 AM
I think due to most of FSU culture being working class they are less bothered about stay overs. It will be dependent on the individual, some will still be quite modest, etc but many will be easy going and want to just get on with whatever sort of relationship is ongoing.

I think with the FSU Dating on the internet it is so easy to go for the hottest girls and when they respond get carried away. Recently I have been viewing girls and come across a few really hot girls in the 9 or 10 looks category. The thing is now having met at least one 8-10 girl I know what I'm in for, it's enticing but I really want a serious relationship and I know particularly in my position these girls are unlikely to be able to deliver it. Like James has said they can be a blast to be with but it takes a bit of discipline in search to avoid these type of hotties if a serious relationship is what is wanted. After all many of these sites are full of film star look a like girls and it's easy to want to try one after another. It is true though what James says in the UK the equivalent girl or less would come with a major attitude issue.

I personally think James strays quite easily, I think he's initial outset is for a relationship but hasn't developed the discipline yet to stick with that and avoid the hotties. He already has had a LTR with kids with an English woman so does he really want another LTR so soon or spend a bit of time having a blast with various hot FSW before going for a more serious relationship again, if he decides he wants that at all?
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: GenMish on March 23, 2019, 06:56:34 AM
James - you are a sex tourist in denial.

No woman fit for a long-term relationship would invite a man from a foreign country to stay with her without first meeting him (and developing a relationship).

You are cheap, and you are getting milked. Enjoy the phone sex because there is an inevitable pothole you'll eventually realise you have stepped in. Admit it for what it is - a FWB online hook-up. Nothing immoral about that, but you seem to be lying to yourself and immigration officials.

Keep calm and carry on in the knowledge you are a common garden-variety sex tourist.

I completely understand your statement rwd, and you might very well be correct. But lets not be too hasty. I think James is looking for affection, not sex. These are two different chemicals in the brain, the former requires an amount of bonding to take place, the later is released during sex. The later is dominant in most men, but not all. Since James might be looking for the former, I think that is why he is willing to live a 3rd world conditions 24/7 in order to form that bond. If I am correct, I would only advise James to slow down and take his time. I too would suggest his first visit be from his own apartment

imo- The garden variety sex tourist pays when he WANTS the girl to leave. Or as Charlie Sheen unashamedly said, I pay them to leave.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 23, 2019, 07:02:24 AM
Trench...did you ever vosit the USSR?

Thought not..

Do not think...  it rarely works out well for you.

Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 23, 2019, 08:50:41 AM
I think due to most of FSU culture being working class they are less bothered about stay overs. It will be dependent on the individual, some will still be quite modest, etc but many will be easy going and want to just get on with whatever sort of relationship is ongoing.

I think with the FSU Dating on the internet it is so easy to go for the hottest girls and when they respond get carried away. Recently I have been viewing girls and come across a few really hot girls in the 9 or 10 looks category. The thing is now having met at least one 8-10 girl I know what I'm in for, it's enticing but I really want a serious relationship and I know particularly in my position these girls are unlikely to be able to deliver it. Like James has said they can be a blast to be with but it takes a bit of discipline in search to avoid these type of hotties if a serious relationship is what is wanted. After all many of these sites are full of film star look a like girls and it's easy to want to try one after another. It is true though what James says in the UK the equivalent girl or less would come with a major attitude issue.

I personally think James strays quite easily, I think he's initial outset is for a relationship but hasn't developed the discipline yet to stick with that and avoid the hotties. He already has had a LTR with kids with an English woman so does he really want another LTR so soon or spend a bit of time having a blast with various hot FSW before going for a more serious relationship again, if he decides he wants that at all?


Proving yet again you understand ZERO about FSU societies.  It has nothing to do with coming from the proletariat, which has zero cross section with the British working class. 


I will repeat - A woman with a child asking a man she has never met in person to stay in her apartment has her own agenda.


I also agree James is a sex tourist.  As long as he discloses that upfront to women, no foul.  But if he is lying to women, then he it's another story.


Oh, and James, my husband is right here beside me, reading the Russian news and texting with his sister in Kyiv.


This post was composed without the aid of google.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 23, 2019, 11:58:08 AM
James - you are a sex tourist in denial.

No woman fit for a long-term relationship would invite a man from a foreign country to stay with her without first meeting him (and developing a relationship).

You are cheap, and you are getting milked. Enjoy the phone sex because there is an inevitable pothole you'll eventually realise you have stepped in. Admit it for what it is - a FWB online hook-up. Nothing immoral about that, but you seem to be lying to yourself and immigration officials.

Keep calm and carry on in the knowledge you are a common garden-variety sex tourist.


Hryhorii Skovoroda wrote about being caught, like a bird in a net, by our physical desires, ultimately affecting our soul/spiritual development.   James is caught in this net, whether he knows it or not.  Perhaps between sex trips, he should read some Skovoroda.


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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 23, 2019, 11:59:14 AM
May be you have a point..

My now ex Russian wife ca.e to stay at my apartment in Cyprus the first time we met. Not the same bedroom .. I was a gentleman...for as long as possible..

When I first visited SC, I stayed at her apartment.  We had v chatted for five months and decided it was plain silly for me to stay at another place...


Did either of them have young children in tow?


This post was composed without the aid of google.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 24, 2019, 02:26:44 PM
Well on London bus home not sure where to go with this.  I have never visited the f s u where I have not stayed in her apartment that's 5 out of 5.  I'm seriously trying to find a wife but also realise the perils of choosing unwisely.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 24, 2019, 02:31:33 PM
It's not easy both the women and I  met our partners in our early 20s raised families and our partners traded us in for new models.  So now instead of growing together we are trying to put 2 busted families together it's not easy and unless you have tried it you have no idea what it's like to try.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on March 24, 2019, 02:35:57 PM
I don't think I'm a sex tourist as sex is not my objective.  Obviously it's part of a relationship  .  I could just go to my local music bar and allow myself to get  picked up
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Trenchcoat on March 24, 2019, 04:24:32 PM
Well on London bus home not sure where to go with this.  I have never visited the f s u where I have not stayed in her apartment that's 5 out of 5.  I'm seriously trying to find a wife but also realise the perils of choosing unwisely.

You're home and back already! Well how did it end with Megan Fox? Did you get your leg over? Did she get her mobile? Did you find out how she manages to keep herself in a city centre apartment? And do you she a relationship going anywhere with her?
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 24, 2019, 09:13:56 PM

Did either of them have young children in tow?


This post was composed without the aid of google.

No..

Good question
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 25, 2019, 07:53:01 AM
I don't think I'm a sex tourist as sex is not my objective.  Obviously it's part of a relationship  .  I could just go to my local music bar and allow myself to get  picked up


Yes, but you wouldn't be picked up by a Megan Fox lookalike at that bar, would you?


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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Boethius on March 25, 2019, 07:55:27 AM
It's not easy both the women and I  met our partners in our early 20s raised families and our partners traded us in for new models.  So now instead of growing together we are trying to put 2 busted families together it's not easy and unless you have tried it you have no idea what it's like to try.


So why not wait until your children are grown?  Why subject them to the strain of a new relationship, new step siblings that will have your attention, etc.?


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Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Nightwish on March 25, 2019, 09:28:20 AM
I don't think I'm a sex tourist as sex is not my objective.  Obviously it's part of a relationship  .  I could just go to my local music bar and allow myself to get  picked up

yes, yes you are
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: jone on March 25, 2019, 10:27:09 AM
(http://cdn2.stylecraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Look-7.jpg)

Megan Fox without makeup does not strike me as beautiful.   My guess is that the woman you are dating would look better than Miss Fox on a skin to skin comparison.
Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: msmob on March 25, 2019, 10:56:57 AM
OMG..
More subjective 'opinions' on lasses'  beauty...who could be the poster's daughter..





Title: Re: Dnipro january travel advice
Post by: Jamesukjames on May 13, 2019, 07:42:01 AM
In reply to trench .  Still in touch with miss dinipro .  I'm having one of those runs where every time you have some holiday money you spend it on essentials.   She may be coming to visit me in UK in July.