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« Reply #1050 on: March 23, 2019, 04:50:01 PM »
Doesn't matter if they do 'wise up' Mobe there is a democratic mandate for it that exists and that is irreversible. Leavers are not going anyway so there would be that constant impasse in British politics by not delivering on Brexit.

Theresa May's EU Deal is going nowhere it is turning into another abortive farce and the public are getting fed up with it. Her deal is never going to pass and she is wasting time. The best thing for her to do would've for her to make an alternative choice. If she doesn't go for No Deal Brexit as she should then she'll be taken down by Leavers  in a no confidence vote against her government. Either way it's better for matters to come to a head now rather than this situation to drag on forever more the government is virtually paralyzed by it.

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You saw the people out in London, today...  Think you are in a majority?

O did warn you...

You REALLY are out of touch with reality..

The people will end up deciding..

...and they are FAR better informed ..


This is is going to be a hard week for you and your thoughts veil be testiment to your daftness..


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« Reply #1051 on: March 23, 2019, 06:20:50 PM »
Trench

You saw the people out in London, today...  Think you are in a majority?

O did warn you...

You REALLY are out of touch with reality..

The people will end up deciding..

...and they are FAR better informed ..


This is is going to be a hard week for you and your thoughts veil be testiment to your daftness..

You should take a look at the march to leave coming down from up north, puts even Mussolini's march on Rome to shame. When they get down to London they are going to kick Remoaners ass'es no doubt about it.


It's unfortunate I live down south or I would join them, looks like I'll have to get the train up.
No Deal is Ideal :)

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« Reply #1052 on: March 24, 2019, 12:30:22 AM »
You mean Barrage and his march?    There are more Remainers voters with him and their Donkeys...

Poor Trench..




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« Reply #1053 on: March 25, 2019, 05:04:31 PM »
Well, the motion to a further delay to no deal was defeated tonight :)

The other votes passed to allow MP's to control Parliamentary business, not just the PM. This is going to create more impasse in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure the EU member states will help us out of our predicament and decide the Brexit issue and refuse a further extension to the 12th April No Deal Brexit date :D
No Deal is Ideal :)

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« Reply #1054 on: March 25, 2019, 07:00:17 PM »
))

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This is the headline

Brexit: MPs vote to take control of Brexit process for indicative votes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47701591

". MPs have voted to take control of Commons business in an unprecedented move to try to find a majority for any Brexit option.

The government was defeated by 329 votes to 302 on the cross-party amendment, a majority of 27.

It means MPs will get a series of votes on Wednesday to find out what kind of Brexit they will support.

Prime Minister Theresa May has said there is no guarantee she will abide by their decision."

Theresa May is showing her usual stance when defeated ))






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« Reply #1055 on: March 25, 2019, 07:05:52 PM »

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« Reply #1056 on: March 26, 2019, 11:44:41 AM »


That's a funny cartoon :D So true though, she's tied to the clock and I think it will soon be running out without a deal :)
No Deal is Ideal :)

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« Reply #1057 on: March 26, 2019, 11:46:52 AM »
))

Trench

This is the headline

Brexit: MPs vote to take control of Brexit process for indicative votes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47701591

". MPs have voted to take control of Commons business in an unprecedented move to try to find a majority for any Brexit option.

The government was defeated by 329 votes to 302 on the cross-party amendment, a majority of 27.

It means MPs will get a series of votes on Wednesday to find out what kind of Brexit they will support.

Prime Minister Theresa May has said there is no guarantee she will abide by their decision."

Theresa May is showing her usual stance when defeated ))

If you listened carefully to Theresa May you would have heard that the Referendum of 2016 was an 'Instruction' to MP's it was not advisory :)
No Deal is Ideal :)

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« Reply #1058 on: March 26, 2019, 12:12:56 PM »
If you listened carefully to Theresa May you would have heard that the Referendum of 2016 was an 'Instruction' to MP's it was not advisory :)

IDIOT

it was not binding..and IF you just watched the news ..  LOADS of people changed their minds

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« Reply #1059 on: March 26, 2019, 02:41:57 PM »
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47711206

Brexit: Petition to revoke Article 50 to be debated next week..

They'll also debate leaving on the 29th arch  - even though it has 3-to 40 times less votes



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« Reply #1060 on: March 26, 2019, 07:55:11 PM »
I just watched a special segment on PBS regarding the increasing demonstrations and rancor on both sides of the issue in UK.

After viewing that, and other things I have read/viewed here and others places, I am concluding that UK actually has a much more serious problem than we do here in USA.

Our split between right and left is not nearly as dangerous for the very future of our country, as is the situation in UK.
Winston Churchill.  “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

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« Reply #1061 on: March 26, 2019, 08:36:42 PM »
Trench

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47711206

Brexit: Petition to revoke Article 50 to be debated next week..

They'll also debate leaving on the 29th arch  - even though it has 3-to 40 times less votes

It's just a debate Mobe, nothing will come as a result of it. None of it including the votes tomorrow or to date really mean a thing as they are all non binding. Only the PM's deal going south means anything, she is refusing to accept anything other than Brexit, in the end she'll see her EU Deal stands no chance and she'll see No Deal as the only way. By then the EU member states look likely to decide the issue for us and refuse further extensions :)

Afraid it's too late to count now what some poll ahow people as choosing, that decision was made by the people two years ago now, Remoaners list I believe :D
No Deal is Ideal :)

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« Reply #1062 on: March 26, 2019, 08:48:03 PM »
I just watched a special segment on PBS regarding the increasing demonstrations and rancor on both sides of the issue in UK.

After viewing that, and other things I have read/viewed here and others places, I am concluding that UK actually has a much more serious problem than we do here in USA.

Our split between right and left is not nearly as dangerous for the very future of our country, as is the situation in UK.

All the splits in the UK is quite true so much so it would be more accurate to call us the disunited kingdom. Times have changed and issues that used to be considered fringe/marginalised are now main stream issues. I don't think the EU issue will be the end of it as there are other issues to run through thereafter to sort out this country and get it to a proper functioning state. What to do with the Monarchy is an issue likely to come up before to long perhaps after Brexit.

Interesting thing with Brexit is that it cuts across left & right politics. There are Tory Brexiteers and Labour Leave politicians voting together on some votes. Labour Leave contains a small number of very left wing politicians, Tory Brexiteers very right wing. So some strange bedfellows are popping up. Usually the right wing of the Tory party would be totally at odds with the left wing if the Labour party.

Main thing is that Parliament seems hopelessly divided on Brexit that it is almost paralyzed. I don't expect the votes later today to resolve that, if anything they will probably just highlight the divisions and lack of any side to obtain a majority vote for any option.
No Deal is Ideal :)

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« Reply #1063 on: March 26, 2019, 09:01:53 PM »
Main thing is ML is that Remainers keep trying to impose what they want on the country but don't have the democratic mandate to do so. That action is insipid and totally arrogant to decide they are going to over ride the electoral vote of the people just to satisfy their view of how the world should be. They should instead wait a few years after Brexit before asking or another Referendum. As it is they are pushing the division you describe to end up in an even more embittered feeling towards each other. If Remainers impose their will over the democratic mandate as they are always attempting to do things could really erupt quite dramatically.
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« Reply #1064 on: March 26, 2019, 11:10:33 PM »
Trench, thank you for your insulting 'reasoning'...


Currently, the govt. is hell bent on 'delivering' a 'Brexit' the maj.electorate no longdr want and the govt refuse  to listen.


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« Reply #1065 on: March 27, 2019, 03:29:57 AM »
Sadly the English comprehension of Moby is lacking. A democractic vote is something that challenges some.

Hopefully in some +\- three weeks everyone will see the sun rise over the British Isles.

AvHdB


you time frame is nearly up and even you must see that it is clear that 'Brexit' is not wanted by the maj. of UK folk

The lies of being 'better off' and 'less migrants' have been seen through . 


You are not too good at judging who is telling the truth..

Think De Tomaso Panteras and Jeremy Clarkson ...  I wish he'd gone into more detail of his personal experience of previous unreliability on his Grand tour of two weeks ago ...





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« Reply #1066 on: March 27, 2019, 06:54:40 AM »
With less than 6m people signing a Govt petition to stay in the EU,which has been heavily promoted by the tv news channels,...when 16.1m people had previously voted to stay 2 and half years ago..one could argue the remainers are declining in number.


Maybe the missing 10m have shifted to leave .
Just saying it like it is.

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« Reply #1067 on: March 27, 2019, 08:57:37 AM »
With less than 6m people signing a Govt petition to stay in the EU,which has been heavily promoted by the tv news channels,...when 16.1m people had previously voted to stay 2 and half years ago..one could argue the remainers are declining in number.


Maybe the missing 10m have shifted to leave .

'heavily promoted' .... They also - to be fair - talked about "the leave without a deal on March 29th" petition ..

It got 140k votes

Hmm, by CB's reasoning ...  Those leavers have REALLY changed their minds


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« Reply #1068 on: March 27, 2019, 10:39:35 AM »
'heavily promoted' .... They also - to be far - talked about "the leave without a deal on March 29th" petition .. which got

It got 140k votes

Hmm, by CBs reasoning ...  Those leavers have REALLY changed their minds

Mobe, Leave voters are not going to be motivated to sign a petition to leave they won the Referendum to leave which actually counts. Why sign a petition to debate what is already tbeing debated. Leave voters have better things to do with there time than go looking for petitions voting for what is supposed to be happening anyway. I wasn't even aware a Leave petition exists as we are supposed to be leaving and the government committed to that that is what is supposed to be happening anyway so why would I or any other Leaver even look for one.
No Deal is Ideal :)

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« Reply #1069 on: March 27, 2019, 12:05:28 PM »
We're still gonna be here discussing if Brexit will happen until mid 2020, maybe longer.

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« Reply #1070 on: March 27, 2019, 12:35:17 PM »
Moby,

       I saw nothing about a Govt leave with no deal petition on the BBC or Sky tv. news channels...probably a moby fib as your second claim shows you've been fibbing in black and white.


Following your claim about there only being 140 k votes for it I did go and check the Govt petition site and lo and behold you've been  caught fibbing again..there have actually been 582 k votes for it....ho hum.
Just saying it like it is.

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« Reply #1071 on: March 27, 2019, 01:33:23 PM »
Whatever happens, I do hope Britain leave the EU so that the EU (which I really detest) can get their act together and break free of the idiotic US anti-Russian policies that destroys the European economy and then UK can really focus on being the main, no.1 lap dog of the dying Empire.

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« Reply #1072 on: March 27, 2019, 02:15:54 PM »
Mobe, Leave voters are not going to be motivated to sign a petition to leave they won the Referendum to leave which actually counts. Why sign a petition to debate what is already tbeing debated. Leave voters have better things to do with there time than go looking for petitions voting for what is supposed to be happening anyway. I wasn't even aware a Leave petition exists as we are supposed to be leaving and the government committed to that that is what is supposed to be happening anyway so why would I or any other Leaver even look for one.

Haha,

that's you 'excuse' ?

Even when it is crystal clear that all the publicity and big crowds are for Article 50 to be frozen or the whole thing thrown in the bin ?

Look, like refusal to back your contention that that we would crash out on 29th March - CHICKEN - you are going to be disappointed ))


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« Reply #1073 on: March 27, 2019, 02:25:12 PM »
Moby,

       I saw nothing about a Govt leave with no deal petition on the BBC or Sky tv. news channels...probably a moby fib as your second claim shows you've been fibbing in black and white.

)) As we will see - you are either inattentive or just trolling ..



Following your claim about there only being 140 k votes for it I did go and check the Govt petition site and lo and behold you've been  caught fibbing again..there have actually been 582 k votes for it....ho hum.

OK.. Let's be clear .. I have JUST screen-grabbed the govt petition site and you, 'Sir' need to apologise to me and the members..

You are either 'mistaken', ignorant or trolling



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« Reply #1074 on: March 27, 2019, 02:28:05 PM »
Whatever happens, I do hope Britain leave the EU so that the EU (which I really detest) can get their act together and break free of the idiotic US anti-Russian policies that destroys the European economy and then UK can really focus on being the main, no.1 lap dog of the dying Empire.


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You mean we might be like 'you lot'..having to obey UK Directives to be in the EEA - but having NO SAY in the policy / rules ..

'Thanks....but no thanks




 

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