"Meat"?????

[thompsongunner06]

OK,,,I do not or ever will understand how people(guys) can think of a person as "meat"? My God,,,we are all HUMANS no matter where we live. How can a person be so shallow as to call someone that? When someone wants a wife,family and possibly children who can act/treat a human like an animal? The people I have met in Russian and Ukraine were so nice to me. I see programs on sex slaves from Russia/Ukraine,,,10 yr old sex slaves In Asian countries,,,Americans are sick(some). No wonder women in Russia/Ukraine are so cautious when they meet someone from America. One guy here on the e coast wanted to watch his RW wife with his dog,,, . Of course she left him ASAP,, running! Guys...if all you want is meat go to a ranch in Vegas.  Guys,,if you want a wife be a real man and be a caring human and give respect that everyone wants.

[groovlstk]

I see programs on sex slaves from Russia/Ukraine,,,10 yr old sex slaves In Asian countries,,,Americans are sick(some). No wonder women in Russia/Ukraine are so cautious when they meet someone from America.

I'm not sure what you're chastising Americans for here, even the alleged rings that lure Russian and Ukrainian women to work in the sex trade in the US are operated by Russian and Ukrainian people.

[acrzybear]

I'm not sure what you're chastising Americans for here, even the alleged rings that lure Russian and Ukrainian women to work in the sex trade in the US are operated by Russian and Ukrainian people.

There you go again Groov - confusing the issue with facts!! you really need to stop doing that 

[Sculpto]

Americans have no patent on perversion that is for sure.

[thompsongunner06]

Americans have no patent on perversion that is for sure.

Well I do not see too many programs on Russian/Ukraine women being scammed and going to say,,,Africa,Mexico,S America as sex slaves. Most are told they will be going to AMERICA to work. Sure Brits are also on the "kinky" side. If there was not a "want " in America the Russian mafia would not be doing this. Sex is a big addiction in America and countries that have the porn culture.   

[BC]

Porn???? who me???? Heck, the lingerie section of the Sears catalog was porn.. guess I'm addicted..

 

[Boethius]

Well I do not see too many programs on Russian/Ukraine women being scammed and going to say,,,Africa,Mexico,S America as sex slaves. Most are told they will be going to AMERICA to work. Sure Brits are also on the "kinky" side. If there was not a "want " in America the Russian mafia would not be doing this. Sex is a big addiction in America and countries that have the porn culture.   

That may be true, but most of those sex slaves were sold into the trade by locals.  In Ukraine, one of the biggest exporters of sex slaves was a local police detachment!

[thompsongunner06]

BC,,,Does Sears even have a catalog any more?? Now Victoria Secret is a good one.
As far as the "trade" and locals,,,they know where the "want/demand" is. Also a lot of girls think they will be in the US and will be able to get a real job and send money home,,,then someone takes their passports after they land,,they are in deep shit. I do not doubt the local police are in on it,,,,big bucks and the mafia is in real deep. The Ukraine area is being hit hard by the economy so people will do risky things to make any money. Very sad there and here in the US.   

[Misha]

I'm not sure what you're chastising Americans for here, even the alleged rings that lure Russian and Ukrainian women to work in the sex trade in the US are operated by Russian and Ukrainian people.

It does overlook the fact that you have a great many "sex slaves" in Russia and I would wager Ukraine. There is the very sad case, for example, of a gang in Nizhny Tagil kidnapping young women and teenage girls and then beating them and forcing them into prostitution. The police didn't look for the kidnapped women and some of the reports that I have read indicate that the police officers were very well aware of what was going on in the brothels where the women were forced to work. Those who refuse were killed. A mass grave was found with dozens of bodies dumped outside the city. Wikipedia has a good summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizhny_Tagil_mass_murder_%282002-2007%29. How many more mass graves are there yet to be found in Russia? How many more women women are truly working as sex slaves in the FSU? Of course, the Russian media goes on and on about the dangers of women becoming sex slaves outside of Russia and Eastern Europe, but is typically mute about what is going on inside the country.

[Misha]

Does Sears even have a catalog any more??

They do in Canada. You can still get goods delivered to small towns with a Sears outlet in Canada ordered from the catalog even if you don't have a Sears store nearby. Of course, you can also do the same thing online, having goods not available in your local Sears store delivered COD to your city and Sears store.

[Jumper]

i havnt seen statistics,,but i would think far far more go to
hungary, czech/poland/germany/greece/israel /spain .thailand,etc etc
 or turkey,
than ends up as sex slaves in the US?

in Turkey , *natasha* is another name for prostitute..
and there is a reason for that

i dont think you'd find any russian named used so,,in any western city....

This doesn't change the issue,, just pointing out the bigger demand is coming from other countries..
(and as pointed out ,some within same country)

[thompsongunner06]

So true,,,we only get info from certain areas. I do not think I have ever seen news from Turkey. I do try to watch the BBC show. It is very sad and I see why girls try to get out of Russia and other countries but end up in these hell holes. With the male to female ratio I can see that the numbers of potential women victim numbers can be huge and no one would even miss them. Me and my wife are gonna try to make sure some girls get nice guys here on the east coast. When I saw the orphans on a documentary it really got to me. Girls who have babies from prostitution just abandon them. Its not the kids fault but it really pulls at your heart to see this.   

[Sculpto]

russians in thailand

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there are ads all over moscow craigslist for russian girls to go to many different countries to "work".

[Mars]

OK,,,I do not or ever will understand how people (guys) can think of a person as "meat"?  My God,,,we are all HUMANS no matter where we live. How can a person be so shallow as to call someone that?

As I recall, the term you object to has been mostly used by females on this discussion board.  I have only seen guys use the term when replying to a post by a female who used the term.   JR used the term in the title of his thread strictly because a female had just used the words 'Cheaper Meat' in another thread.

If you are disturbed by the term, why didn't you mention that a female first used it, and why did you put the word (guys) in your post above.

[JR]

OK,,,I do not or ever will understand how people(guys) can think of a person as "meat"? My God,,,we are all HUMANS no matter where we live.

treat a human like an animal? The people I have met in Russian and Ukraine were so nice to me. I see programs on sex slaves from Russia/Ukraine,,,10 yr old sex slaves In Asian countries,,,Americans are sick(some).

I hope I don't offend you too much but I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you are a tad bit on the naive side.  Americans are good. We treat women quite well in our society. Not perfect but certainly quite well. You might do yourself some good by expanding your horizons a bit. Women who are brought to America on less than honest terms will, in the end be a lot better off than those who are taken to, say Turkey, Korea, etc. We have laws against such things and organisations that will assist when it is discovered.
Why do think it is that most of the coerced women don't end up in Africa? The money isn't there and why pay for a foreign woman when you can just rape a local one? While you're at if you can get a few extra moments of excitement (almost said jollies but that just would not sound right) by chopping off one of her hands or arms...and no one to stop you!
I had a Jordanian acquaintance who told me about his three month marriage to an American woman. I asked him why he divorced her. He told me it was because he couldn't beat her!
No my friend, the world is a sick place and America, by comparison is a pretty great.

[Sculpto]

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