Anastasia.com ( A-WEB ) & LifetimePartners ( LTP ) Report 1

[Marc Dayton]

Many of you know that on a trail basis LTP is working with A-Web

First we gave then 14 profiles to start with, and vary fast we have hundreds of letters for the girls this was vary good, as advertised by A-web as you can guess we were running crazy contacting the RW and getting letters back to A-webs men.

We put on one more full time girl in the office and hired some new girls part time help to keep up with the letters.

First each interputer had to take an A-web test if she passed she was put on. If she failed she was out. I liked it and was vary happy, and impressed to see this type of testing by A-Web.

Second A-web I am glad to report called each RW and talked to them to see if the RW was real not just a fake profile and bio. Vary nice they seam to be on top of this trying to make sheer RW understood that we placed there bios and photos on A-webs site. Big Plus!!!

Are next event was in June with getting the LTP RW to attend the A-Web party in Tver this last June. We worked over time to impress A-web to have are RW at this party are count was 95 RW attended the A-Web party from LTP

So far all I can say about A-web is 100% good, but know this is were LTP is between a rock and a hard place.

First we wanted to place some other LTP RW on the A-web site. The profiles were not excepted so we called A-web to see if there was something we were doing wrong?

We were told that 80% of the letters sent to us has NO! Response that if are girls would not write back to the men we could not place new girls on the A-Web site? We told them what the reason was that most 18 year old RW won’t write to 50 & 60 year old men and other men that they have no interests in. So LTP is between a rock and a hard place? No letters no new postings of new profiles.

Know to the party and the rock and the hard place hits us at once, but being the new kids on the block with them we had no choice in the events going on at the party.

The BeHappy staff was keeping the records of the girls and the agencies that the RW came to the party with. Not a good thing for the LTP staff. So the end results was we were giving a credit for 45 RW attending the party not the 95 RW that my office manger claims attended the party from LTP?

I don’t think it’s a big shock the local agency is paid by the girl that attend the party so with that in mind, and Behappy doing the door count we came up a bit short on service provide by LTP and BH was paid for 50% of the RW we had attend the party.

Well as you can understand my office manager was upset, and on the phone to A-web managements here comes the rock and the hard place. Let me say first I can understand to a point why? , but that is only a simple new agreement to fix? 

Behappy has many girls on the A-web site they claimed that these girls were from there program so by having an account that was posted on A-web first Behappy was paid for 50% of the LTP RW at the party,

I will post part 2 soon, but first I my office manager is contacting some of these girls, and we will talk to A-web from the U.S. Please not at this time my experience with A-web has been good so we will attempt to sort things out and reach a new understanding with A-Web.

Marc Dayton

[Bruno]

 

The 01/06/2006, Richard wrote :

Aparently LTP has joined the A-web family!!

The 10/06/2006, Marc wrote :

First Richard asking a question is one thing word smiting the question to fit your needs is another thing. How desperate you must be. I would burn my computers my office before I would sell out to A-web nothing but a cheep shot to try and make your self look like something your not.

Know I know Richard you’re going to have a filed day with this so go for it, but to try and get on a more positive note. Dealing with your wonderful words comparing LTP with BeHappy, and the question of working with A-web

And now, Marc explain that he work with A-web, that he have participate to the A-web party in June...

So Marc, why have you "attack" Richard when he have reveal these information... It seem that he have say the true since yourself now say that you are in the A-web family !

Not sure that "word smiting" was on the side of Richard... Sorry Marc, i have bad memory but evenement from one month ago is not far enough to forget it.

[Turboguy]

It sorta sounded to me like when they were complaining that that gals were not writing enough men that the thing they were hoping you would do was to hire a couple more gals to answer letters pretending to be the gals.   

[Bruno]

It sorta sounded to me like when they were complaining that that gals were not writing enough men that the thing they were hoping you would do was to hire a couple more gals to answer letters pretending to be the gals.   

and

Marc wrote :

We were told that 80% of the letters sent to us has NO! Response that if are girls would not write back to the men we could not place new girls on the A-Web site? We told them what the reason was that most 18 year old RW won’t write to 50 & 60 year old men and other men that they have no interests in. So LTP is between a rock and a hard place? No letters no new postings of new profiles.

The solution is very simple... If a girl have no interest in a man, simply send a e-mail to the man with the following : "Sorry, the woman number 123456 have no interest in you".

So, you meet the condition of A-web who ask a reply... If a guy make the effort to write a letter, it is normal that he wait a reply, same a negative one. In some way, men have pay for the contact information and you have already your commission... You simply need to ready a typical "dear John" letter send to man that your women don't show interest.

[Marc Dayton]

Many of you know that on a trail basis LTP is working with A-Web

 

First we gave then 14 profiles to start with, and vary fast we have hundreds of letters for the girls this was vary good, as advertised by A-web as you can guess we were running crazy contacting the RW and getting letters back to A-webs men.

 

We put on one more full time girl in the office and hired some new girls part time help to keep up with the letters.

 

First each interputer had to take an A-web test if she passed she was put on. If she failed she was out. I liked it and was vary happy, and impressed to see this type of testing by A-Web.

 

Second A-web I am glad to report called each RW and talked to them to see if the RW was real not just a fake profile and bio. Vary nice they seam to be on top of this trying to make sheer RW understood that we placed there bios and photos on A-webs site. Big Plus!!!

 

Are next event was in June with getting the LTP RW to attend the A-Web party in Tver this last June. We worked over time to impress A-web to have are RW at this party are count was 95 RW attended the A-Web party from LTP

 

So far all I can say about A-web is 100% good, but know this is were LTP is between a rock and a hard place.

 

First we wanted to place some other LTP RW on the A-web site. The profiles were not excepted so we called A-web to see if there was something we were doing wrong?

 

We were told that 80% of the letters sent to us has NO! Response that if are girls would not write back to the men we could not place new girls on the A-Web site? We told them what the reason was that most 18 year old RW won’t write to 50 & 60 year old men and other men that they have no interests in. So LTP is between a rock and a hard place? No letters no new postings of new profiles.

 

Know to the party and the rock and the hard place hits us at once, but being the new kids on the block with them we had no choice in the events going on at the party.

 

The BeHappy staff was keeping the records of the girls and the agencies that the RW came to the party with. Not a good thing for the LTP staff. So the end results was we were giving a credit for 45 RW attending the party not the 95 RW that my office manger claims attended the party from LTP?

 

I don’t think it’s a big shock the local agency is paid by the girl that attend the party so with that in mind, and Behappy doing the door count we came up a bit short on service provide by LTP and BH was paid for 50% of the RW we had attend the party.

 

Well as you can understand my office manager was upset, and on the phone to A-web managements here comes the rock and the hard place. Let me say first I can understand to a point why? , but that is only a simple new agreement to fix? 

 

Behappy has many girls on the A-web site they claimed that these girls were from there program so by having an account that was posted on A-web first Behappy was paid for 50% of the LTP RW at the party,

 

I will post part 2 soon, but first I my office manager is contacting some of these girls, and we will talk to A-web from the U.S. Please not at this time my experience with A-web has been good so we will attempt to sort things out and reach a new understanding with A-Web.

 

Marc Dayton

[Marc Dayton]

Bruno, fair question

Richard an I know each other vary well, sometimes its what between the lines thats the poster knows, and his intent is to upset the other. On top of that you add some coments that are vary strong and you paint a picture in a persons mind that one is up to something vary bad! This is an art from I call wordsmithing.

I hope to keep this about the report on how A-web works there program. I think we can all learn something here?

[Marc Dayton]

It sorta sounded to me like when they were complaining that that gals were not writing enough men that the thing they were hoping you would do was to hire a couple more gals to answer letters pretending to be the gals.   

Bruno our you hoping & guessing they want us to write letters pretending to be the girl? A-web at this time has not asked us or suggested that we do this.


So, you meet the condition of A-web who ask a reply... If a guy make the effort to write a letter, it is normal that he wait a reply, same a negative one. In some way, men have pay for the contact information and you have already your commission... You simply need to ready a typical "dear John" letter send to man that your women don't show interest

Bruno all men know that there is a 50-50 chance an RW will not write back a 99% chance she wont write if she is 18 and he is over 50, but in a perfect world yes a no thank you would be nice, but would it not cost him to open a dear john? He would pay 2 times once to send and once to open? What he should understand if he dose not get an e-mail back from her.

[Bruno]

He would pay 2 times once to send and once to open? What he should understand if he dose not get an e-mail back from her.

I don't know in detail how you work with A-web... but in a lot of agency, you pay for one e-mail exchange... it mean the sending and receive of one e-mail...

What he can understand when he don't receive a reply ? Difficult question since one man is not the other... But for example, he can think that the woman don't exist, that it is a fake profile make by agency for attract customer who spend money... Or he can think that it is a possible computer problem and that the lady have never receive the e-mail, so he will send it back again and again... With a lot of customer, this can lead to a denial of service from server overflow by thousand duplicate e-mail... and a lot of other scenario are possible, only limited by the imagination of the man... and of course, the more probable scenario, these where the woman have no interest is the last one that the man will think about.

[SANDRO43]

Bruno all men know that there is a 50-50 chance an RW will not write back a 99% chance she wont write if she is 18 and he is over 50

Not necessarily, and not 99%. Where did you get these figures ? And if the girl is 20, then the percentage is what, 96% ?

but in a perfect world yes a no thank you would be nice, but would it not cost him to open a dear john? He would pay 2 times once to send and once to open?

Well, the solution is VERY simple : make your standard "Dear John" letter readable for free

[Turboguy]

I think I would be a little po'd to pay $ 8.00 or $10.00 to read a dear john letter that said the 18 year old gal i wrote was not interested.

I have a feeling the free dear john letter is not something A-web would be too happy about.  I do agree that guys don't expect  100% response but I am also sure that if the responses are not good enough they are going to find another agency.

[Bruno]

I think I would be a little po'd to pay $ 8.00 or $10.00 to read a dear john letter that said the 18 year old gal i wrote was not interested.

I have a feeling the free dear john letter is not something A-web would be too happy about.  I do agree that guys don't expect  100% response but I am also sure that if the responses are not good enough they are going to find another agency.

Can be a interesting topic for the section "Agency Standards and Guidelines" !

What a man will like the more ?

- Reply composed by agency, same if the woman have no interest... this mean several letter at $8.00 or $10.00 and girl dissappear when you wish visit her.
- No reply, so man are in the unknow of what happen
- A free "Dear John" letter

I think that a good solution will be to build a introduction package... many agency use already so system where the first e-mail exchange is free... of course, without translation !

LPT seem not be wishing send fake letter... If A-Web try to push them write fake reply for women who have no interest in men, the best way is break the relation between LPT and A-Web... People of LPT have use several year for build a good reputation... Destroy these good reputation in short time due to malpractice of A-Web is not something good for LPT...

[Marc Dayton]

LPT seem not be wishing send fake letter... If A-Web try to push them write fake reply for women who have no interest in men, the best way is break the relation between LPT and A-Web... People of LPT have use several year for build a good reputation... Destroy these good reputation in short time due to malpractice of A-Web is not something good for LPT...


First Bruno LTP not LPT

Bruno its seams that you are jumping the gun here. Have you, your self worked with A-Web. Have you worked with any agency that told you for fact that A-web asked or forced them to write fake letters?

Or are you just repeating what you have heard on the RWD & RWG.
At this time and point all say it one more time for you A-web has done nothing wrong or asked us to do something wrong.

I also like to say from what I have seen at this time and point A-web has been doing all they can to make sheer we are not sending fake letters in a girls name. They have called and talked to are RW

My question at this point is if A-Web is calling my RW, and keeping an eye on us that must mean the have checked on other agencies as well.

This is just food for thought as time go’s by how can they keep checking on each agencies when they deal with 1000 of us.

Second question if a local agency is bad they would need to understand how A-Web works and set up maybe a scam on A-web the question then would be how a small local agency would scam A-Web?

Just thinking maybe there is more to this then just A-Web maybe it’s the small agency and how the small agency runs there own biz. Not what A-web tells them to do ?, but weather the small agency is good or bad.

[Louie]

            Marc
 I was a member with AWeb and I know for a fact that, they send out letters on behalf of the girls, they call this a letter of introduction, if you have to pay to read this letter, I call it fraud, Aweb admitted this to and thought there was nothing wrong with this practice, also I was talking to a gal in the Ukraine that I met thru Aweb, and used there $5 a min phone service to get her personal info, and started to call her on my own, using Elena's reaching Russia to translate for me, and this girl told me Aweb paid her per letter to write to guys she would have no intention to ever meet, and on one occasion she thought it was funny that I had wrote to her SISTER IN LAW who has a profile on Aweb, who is also getting paid to write letter to guys. So if you want to affiliate yourself with the biggest scam agency in the MOB biz, go right ahead, but please don't insult us with trying to say Aweb is honest and fair company

[Turboguy]

Marc,  Are you sure when they were calling the gals to make sure they were real, that they were really not brokering a deal with them to write letters for pay?   

[Bruno]

First Bruno LTP not LPT
My mistake... good letter but not the good order 
Bruno its seams that you are jumping the gun here. Have you, your self worked with A-Web. Have you worked with any agency that told you for fact that A-web asked or forced them to write fake letters?
Not jumping on the gun, only one possible scenario... I have never work with A-Web... Only with APrettyWoman between 1996 and 2004 but i have stop with them when i have discover some practice that i don't like... followed by ElenaModel, stop with them too due to problem for receive the commission...
Or are you just repeating what you have heard on the RWD & RWG.
RWG what... sorry, i don't know the other place 
My question at this point is if A-Web is calling my RW, and keeping an eye on us that must mean the have checked on other agencies as well.
This is just food for thought as time go’s by how can they keep checking on each agencies when they deal with 1000 of us.
Marc, you are only at the begin of the business relation with A-web... Normal that they check a little... but what in 6 month ?
Second question if a local agency is bad they would need to understand how A-Web works and set up maybe a scam on A-web the question then would be how a small local agency would scam A-Web?
The responsible for the network is responsible for the local agency... like a boss is responsible for his worker

[Marc Dayton]

Louie,

My office manager is talking to the LTP RW put on A-web .So I will have her ask this question if A-web ask to pay one of are RW you can bet I will cut all off with them! Are you 100% sheer this RW was paid from A-web paying her off or the local agency. Last question Louie and I have my reasons for asking this is the RW that told you this an interputer?

P.S. Louie
(So if you want to affiliate yourself with the biggest scam agency in the MOB biz, go right ahead, but please don't insult us with trying to say Aweb is honest and fair company)

Please don’t put words in my mouth I have only told they have not asked us to do anything bad at this time and point. LTP will not!!! Put out letters by paid for RW.

I have only been working with them for about 30 Days as Bruno points out. I am checking on many things keeping an eye on them too.

The 14 RW put on there site are good LTP girls so if something is offered to them we will be told about it. Look this is the way I see it what one agencies dose with A-web dose not mean LTP will lower are service to scam men!!!

[Marc Dayton]

Bruno, ?

What would you think are better agency to work with?

thanks

[Bruno]

Bruno, ?

What would you think are better agency to work with?

thanks

Marc, it is a very difficult question... When i have begin work with APrettyWoman in 1996, it was a good agency... owned by a Dutch people... with year, they have move to South Africa with bank account in USA... the more important is that they have change some business practice and for some of them, i have not like it... basicelly, it was not bad but when you pay 20$ at someone who refert a girls to APW, it is the open door to scam... a Russian studiant can submit 20 girl each month, earn 400$... simply fill a form and send some picture... and it is only one of the problem who have appear with time.

I don't know what agency is good for work today... and if you find one, it don't mean that the agency will stay good... it will be your work to monitor it... and a bad agency today can be good next year... So, only test and trial can reply to your question. Yourself need to choice the good one for you and don't be afraid to stop at the first strange behavour... and certainly don't sign contract where you give up your freedom to change of agency when you will. Beware of the little character.

[Louie]

                  Marc,

       if you read my post, it was a Ukrainian gal, and I need the translation services of Lena, from Elena's Reaching Russia, and yes I am 100% sure that they paid her, I never talked to the sister in law, as a matter of fact this gal is now married to an American and living in New Mexico. I used to have a bunch of documentation, I forwarded it to an FBI agent who was working on a fraud case, and that guy who was suing them, i can't remember his name, but I have since deleted all that stuff from my Computer

[Marc Dayton]

I talked to my office manager she has told no girls have told her they were offered $ for letters. I also asked about if we had been asked to write Intro letters for the girls. I was told it was talked about, but not demanded. She was just told if RW are not serous about writing letters we should not put them on the A-web site.

My partner will be back on the 20th we will have a long talk since he set up the deal with A-web I am sheer he will not be pleased with some of the things that have happened. I will post part two as soon as he talks to A-web

Thanks for the info Louie

[Jet]

Mark, it is a very interesting look at the situation from a perspective we rarely get on the consumer end, so thanks for posting it. LTP has had a very good name for quite some time, but from what you've written, it's not difficult to see how a less ethical agency might fix the pesky letter writing requirment without a second thought "You want more letters? NO PROBLEM!" I'm not trying to suggest you guys would even think about it, but some Russian sleazeball out in BrokeDickSkaya oblast might "get the hint" and oblige A-web without any trouble sleeping at night...

[Jack]

Hey Marc, any update as to how it is working with the Anastasiaweb deal?

Are your people sending out letters from your girls to men, or do people associated with Anastasiaweb have this right as well?

Are many new guys writing some of your ladies now that they have been exposed to AnasWeb?

[Marc Dayton]

Hi Jack,

there is lots of letters comming in some vary strange I can see why lots of RW don't write back , and just not enuff going out Dennis had a late run, and is back this week end we will talk. I will update all soon.

[BradSTL]

but some Russian sleazeball out in BrokeDickSkaya oblast might "get the hint" and oblige A-web without any trouble sleeping at night...