Marriage Agencies Pay Girls to Chat. PROOF

[Misha]

An important point being left out is that ladies who DO join an agency are FAR more likely to accept moving across the world to marry a man.

A man, any mule man  Sure, a woman who is at an agency does have the intent to move to another country, sometimes come hell or high water. That is not necessarily always a good thing as you never know do you whether she chose you or simply the easy route to achieve a new passport. Given the stress that my wife has gone through and continues to go through because of culture shock and work, I have not doubt that she is still here with me because she loves me     

They already considered it when joining an agency.  I was engaged once to a woman who did not use an agency and one of the things that derailed it was she realized she didn't quite want to give up her life over there.  Just some food for thought.

Sure, but where is there any guarantee that the woman that you choose will always end up marrying you and staying with you in your country? I would also wager that some agency women said yes, then changed their mind to opt for another foreigner who came to visit them, a better deal. As noted, others said yes, did go, and quickly looked for other options once they arrived in their home country. And as SeriouslyJaded has noted, there is no guarantee that a woman at an agency won't get cold feet once she has to quit her job and start saying goodbye to family and friends. IIRC, this was the case with BillyB and his fiance. It is one thing to dream of the foreign prince whisking you away, it is another when you have to start packing your bags...

[Faux Pas]

I'm not speaking for Ed but from what I've been reading this past few years, there are huge problems with the MOB dating pool because it is so full of GCG, pro-daters and good time girls in addition to all the agency scamming going on. So, considering that, I'd believe the chances of finding a real lasting relationship is much higher among the normal dating population.

And, yeah, I agree that Ed tends towards the self-promotional a little too much sometimes and in my single days I wouldn't have used such services as his, but, TBH, most men are probably going to have a better chance with him, doing what he does, than with any agency I've heard of.

I don't think anyone would deny that but the free sites are fraught the same. The number of members are bigger so are the pools of good vs bad. A problem I see with free sites is, the good ones aren't necessarily looking for a foreigner. The bad ones are looking to take advantage. I suppose just more fuel to the argument that there is good and bad in both.

I wouldn't have used a service like Eduard's either  but, I'm not going to pooh on it for those that might. I just don't see the advantage angle from the perspective I had when single. Plus, I'd feel a bit like a wimp having some other dude bird dogging women for me.

[Misha]

A problem I see with free sites is, the good ones aren't necessarily looking for a foreigner. The bad ones are looking to take advantage.

The women on free Russian dating sites are pretty upfront with their motivations. If they are looking for a sugar daddy, they will specify that they are looking for a sponsor and may even specify how much per month they expect. If they are prostitutes looking for clients, they will make this clear. Same is true for women looking for a one-night-stand 

[Daveman]

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Sure, but where is there any guarantee that the woman that you choose will always end up marrying you and staying with you in your country? I would also wager that some agency women said yes, then changed their mind to opt for another foreigner who came to visit them, a better deal. As noted, others said yes, did go, and quickly looked for other options once they arrived in their home country. And as SeriouslyJaded has noted, there is no guarantee that a woman at an agency won't get cold feet once she has to quit her job and start saying goodbye to family and friends. IIRC, this was the case with BillyB and his fiance. It is one thing to dream of the foreign prince whisking you away, it is another when you have to start packing your bags...

>>It is one thing to dream of the foreign prince whisking you away, it is another when you have to start packing your bags...<<

No matter how you slice it, this makes a LOT of (common) sense.  I wonder how many otherwise decent, growing relationships have floundered due to this epiphany of reality?  My guess would be that it happens more often than we'd like to think.

[Eduard]

Eduard,
There are ALOT of problems associated with going at it alone, using an agency, a tour or personalized service such as you offer. Let's face it and be truthful here, it's wrought with problems, pitfalls and expense no matter which one may choose to pursue.

Faux Pas, I agree with one thing you wrote - there is going to be an expense no matter which way you go about this. As far as problems and pitfalls, please allow me to disagree with you. This is one of the benefits of working with me - avoiding pitfalls and problems. By working outside of the typical MOB agency circuit we illiminate GCGs, prodaters, scammers and women with other ulterior motives right from the getgo.
Also being a native Russian speaker I help illiminate any possibility of misunderstandings, miscommunications and problems with cultural differences. I observe how a girl interacts with her family, with waiters in a restaurant, clerks at a store this gives us important information about what kind of a person she is. If she is all lovy dovy with my guy but acts like a bitch with other people - it's red flag and my guy will be aware of that.

You believe your way is the best and I assume that is from your personal experience, I get that.

Yes, from my own personal experience finding my wife 6 years ago but also working with so many other WM, using the same method. It always works quickly, painlessly and  least expensive. Any one who ever worked with me will tell you the same.

However, I've read many of your posts on a couple of forums and I haven't seen you offer anything conclusive as to why your way is better than the other avenues.
 

 Most of the guys I work with had tried other avenues, usually for several years, spending lots of money and in the end with no result. Some of them are members on RUA and here is the link where some talk about working with me:
http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?topic=7295.0;highlight=getrussianwife.com+questions+for+owner
There will be 2 more positive TRs posted soon on RUA from the 2 members I just went to the FSU with.

Pursuing women that are not part of the MOB scene would strike me as a bigger negative because they are not pursuing avenues that would help them find a foreign partner. My guess (and it is only a guess) would be because they aren't interested in finding one or relocating.

Unlike you, I find that as being a positive. According to my own, personal life experience most normal women would prefer staying close to their parents, family and friends, continue with their chosen career, staying within their own culture and language which is naturally part of them. Being torn away from everything that they love and know, and being transplanted to a new country can be a very stressful, scary experience for a woman (or a man for that matter) wouldn't you agree? So I submitt to you that the vast majority of RW do not choose to travel on that path. Sure, they hear things in the media, some might have friends who married a foreign man and moved abroad, so they possibly might think about this idea but will not go as far as sign up with a MOB agency.

Now on the other hand when some of these women get contacted by a WM and feel themselves attracted to his looks and his personality, they will give this relationship a chance and it can progress to the point where she falls in love with him and at this time there wont's be any obsticles to stop her from moving to his country. I find that these relationships are a lot less calculated and more real, with real feelings envolved.

While the MOB scene and tours may have many negatives, it also has many positives over your particular method. First and foremost in my mind is, most of these ladies have at least given thought to and considered relocation.
 

What you view as positive I view as negative. IMHO it is going to be less of a natural relationship when a woman makes a concious decision to look overseas because she wants to move to the West, instead of first meeting and falling for a guy and only then consider whether she could move a way from her country to be with him... unless, off course you still have this view that all RW/UW just want to "get out" of there! Those days are long gone...

 In most all of your posts you seem like a broken record commercial "my way good, other ways bad". One thing I have noticed from being around these boards for a number of years now is that one size does not fit all. Many guys are very successful in ways and means that I would never recommend to another.

What say you?

I guess you are saying that I'm consistent?    and by the way, I agree with you that other methods can work as well for WM. I just find that my particular method produces results a lot quicker, less expensive than most other methods and on a very consistent basis.

[JR]

Faux Pas, I'm not sure what you disagree with, but even if you disagree, that's fine, I'm just expressing my opinion based on my experience.

Please forgive FP, he speaks native Russian but is just beginning to learn the English language

[kievstar]

Eduard, how many of your clients are married?  I think it would help people to show your results.  I personally think you provide a good service. 

[Eduard]

Eduard, how many of your clients are married?  I think it would help people to show your results.  I personally think you provide a good service. 

off the top of my head, about 30.  2 are awaiting visas and one just applied.
Thanks Kievstar

[dilbert]

i personnaly dont really mind if they get paid. (really don`t)
they are still looking for "the one"

then again i just divorced one. so ignore me))