RW wife goes off the deep end

[facetrock]

   Maxx... My great grandmother was born in Czechoslovakia...Let her know for me please :evil:

[SMS60]

   Maxx... My great grandmother was born in Czechoslovakia...Let her know for me please :evil:

Face is that your daughter or grand daughter in your avatar. Or your great grandmothers  great great grand daughter.

[facetrock]

  Such a pretty girl. My 21 year old daughter. She's at countryfest right now if any of your boys are interested. I have an 18 and 23 year old too. Next week I will use the 23 year olds picture.

[SMS60]

When I come to the Lacross Speedway I will look you up. Was there in 2003, 2004. It was kind of run down a bit. But enjoyed racing at the track. I will introduce your daughhter to my 19 year old son.

[facetrock]

 I raced late models there for about 5 years. Havent been there in awhile. Yes bring your son I will bring all my daughters. It will be a WNVM trip for him.

[SMS60]

Yes such a pretty gal, My son is like me, she wont be the same after the race....... the good ole days...lol.

I remember traveling from Lacross to Elko Mn. for the next race. Sheeesh what a small bullring.

[facetrock]

  Never raced in Elko. Raced a few times at Hawkeye Downs in Cedar Rapids and once in Tomah.
Bye the way my daughter speaks fluent English and does like the race track.

[Jumper]

 

WHEN HE JUST ARRIVED ABOUT THREE MONTHS AFTER WE GOT MARRIED RUMORS CAME IN THAT HE HAD LEFT HIS WIFE PREGNANT AND HE WAS ONLY WITH ME TO GET AGREEN CARD.HE DENIED IT COMPLETELY, BUT WHEN HE ABANDONED ME AND LEFT MARCH 11TH 2010 ,EVERYTHING CAME OUT TRULY.

Maxx you know i love your stories..

I just can never fathom the circumstances..

on the one side-

ok by th eposted timelibne ,she knows early on of these horrible rumors ,
yet still follows through with staying maried ,supporting him and getting him set up with a  job and green card..
because why? because he denied the rumor ?

on the other side .
lets say he is perhaps sincere in intent ,
 and his new bride accuses him of such horrible rumors and is "maybe " questioning his motivations and intent , so he gets totally fed up and  leaves.

her side of the story would still post the same.

I'm not saying i don't believe her story,  i certainly know it happens.
It's just that often in these stories i just can't grasp people  in the scenario as "posted"

He is either sincere and miss-accused.
or
 shes completely crazy to have followed through after accusing him of such.

I just can't fathom it.
If i felt the person wasn't sincere ,and had enough foundation in the *rumors* to directly question them about it .  it's end of story anyway.

if i'm the sincere person that is directly accused of such ,by someone i care for ,
 it's pretty much equally game over as well.

[Maxx2]

Maxx you know i love your stories..

I just can never fathom the circumstances..

on the one side-

ok by th eposted timelibne ,she knows early on of these horrible rumors ,
yet still follows through with staying maried ,supporting him and getting him set up with a  job and green card..
because why? because he denied the rumor ?

on the other side .
lets say he is perhaps sincere in intent ,
 and his new bride accuses him of such horrible rumors and is "maybe " questioning his motivations and intent , so he gets totally fed up and  leaves.

her side of the story would still post the same.

I'm not saying i don't believe her story,  i certainly know it happens.
It's just that often in these stories i just can't grasp people  in the scenario as "posted"

He is either sincere and miss-accused.
or
 shes completely crazy to have followed through after accusing him of such.

I just can't fathom it.
If i felt the person wasn't sincere ,and had enough foundation in the *rumors* to directly question them about it .  it's end of story anyway.

if i'm the sincere person that is directly accused of such ,by someone i care for ,
 it's pretty much equally game over as well.

Having your story being subject to suspicion is nothing new. Remember the writer Gina Welch doing a story about me for some feminist magazine? She mention you as advising me to not divorce but arrange a "boating accident". She was suspicious of the lot of us. She also questioned my timeline (how's this for linking Shadow?)

After several months (unaccounted for in Maxx's narrative), Elvira fled to a shelter for battered women and he filed for divorce.

Actually I filed for the divorce and then she fled to a shelter but anyway nobody knows all the things that happen in a marriage that chew up time. Mine was seeing attorneys on the side and having Elena Garrett's detectives doing a background check on my wife. You know how slow "Russian service" is  . But who could imagine this? Not Gina and not any of you. There are so many details that are left out. Besides who is going to concern themselves with a day to day accounting of another person's failing marriage? People want a quick Reader Digest version. This paragraph is getting long so I better end it otherwise no one will read it.


 

[Shadow]

Maxx, the difference is that my mind works in a very unique way that of puzzles people.

After your experience, which I never questioned, you seem to have taken the position that all RW who wish to divorce do so because of a plan to separate as soon as their targets are reached, and with maximal profits.
Similar men who have read a number of scam stories are wary of any letter in poor English thinking it will be a scam.

I look at a situation and question it, and when asking I try not to be influenced by previous stories and cases. It does not reach the level of idiocy where I repeat the same thing while expecting different results, however until expectations are met I am open for differences that may not show in the initial outline.

You point out that Gina Welch made an inconsistency in displaying your story, similar I pointed at an inconsistency between several posters comments and the writing of Stevie. If you notice I also advised him to be cautious and not to take any steps that would leave him open to the dangers he avoided.

[Maxx2]

1) Maxx, the difference is that my mind works in a very unique way that of puzzles people.

2) After your experience, which I never questioned, you seem to have taken the position that all RW who wish to divorce do so because of a plan to separate as soon as their targets are reached, and with maximal profits.
3) Similar men who have read a number of scam stories are wary of any letter in poor English thinking it will be a scam.

4) I look at a situation and question it, and when asking I try not to be influenced by previous stories and cases.
5) It does not reach the level of idiocy where I repeat the same thing while expecting different results, however until expectations are met I am open for differences that may not show in the initial outline.

6) You point out that Gina Welch made an inconsistency in displaying your story, similar I pointed at an inconsistency between several posters comments and the writing of Stevie. If you notice I also advised him to be cautious and not to take any steps that would leave him open to the dangers he avoided.

Hello Shadow.

1) I usually let by the misconceptions of me and of the situations that I involve myself with. The misconceptions of me and of the situations that I involve myself with I usually let by. My mind is unique also as almost every sentence I write I have to reconstruct before posting it. It must be some sort of dyslepsia (sp) Anyway I let a lot of things slide by here as I just do not want to take the time to correct. Also I do not communicate well in letting people know that I am kidding. I do not use emoticons (smilies), they and twittering and tweeting seem infantile to me. I also don't like using "LOL", "ROTFLMAO" and so on. I expect people to know that I am kidding like when I wrote "(how's this for linking Shadow?)". I also expect people to know I find this whole subject funny and am smiling as I write this however it probably looks like I am grumpy and frankly I don't care... LOL

2) Your one observation about what I think of "all RW" and their motives is off by more than a few degrees. 
I really should write a thread entitled "Once and for all what I believe about RW and the men that pursue them".

3) That is a result of a simple mind. Much like a cat that won't walk on a stove again after being burnt on one.

4) You should take similar stories and look for patterns that reoccur over and over again. It helps to see how plausible it is. In the case of the one woman I posted. She is just one of about 6 Americans whose wives and husbands are still married to their other spouses back in the home country. What we as a group at the site have learned is that the USCIS will do nothing if an abuse claim is made by the foreign spouse. They get their green cards anyway.

5) Keeping an open mind is usually a good idea however always remaining sceptical of people involved in controversy isn't being fair or any too bright. There are good guys and good women both Western and Eastern. Many times out of the kindness of their own hearts they get taken advantage of. And yes the saying "you can't fool an honest man" has some value but it's not always true either. If we get too critical we can condemn all of us.

6) I didn't follow your points sorry. Telling a guy to be cautious at a time like this is really a good idea. I was talking with a RW immigration attorney and she said that the Azerbaijani woman who was making the allegations in the case we were discussing was probably being advised by her attorney to supplement her case with "evidence" of abuse. Thus causing the guy to be dragged into court over and over again. Stevie could be in the same situation if he lets her get a chance at setting him up. Now some might advise him to persuade his wife into counseling. It is quite a risk having contact with her to do so. 

[Shadow]

Hello Shadow.

1) I usually let by the misconceptions of me and of the situations that I involve myself with. The misconceptions of me and of the situations that I involve myself with I usually let by. My mind is unique also as almost every sentence I write I have to reconstruct before posting it. It must be some sort of dyslepsia (sp) Anyway I let a lot of things slide by here as I just do not want to take the time to correct. Also I do not communicate well in letting people know that I am kidding. I do not use emoticons (smilies), they and twittering and tweeting seem infantile to me. I also don't like using "LOL", "ROTFLMAO" and so on. I expect people to know that I am kidding like when I wrote "(how's this for linking Shadow?)". I also expect people to know I find this whole subject funny and am smiling as I write this however it probably looks like I am grumpy and frankly I don't care... LOL

I actually did understand the tongue in cheek, do not worry about this.

2) Your one observation about what I think of "all RW" and their motives is off by more than a few degrees. 
I really should write a thread entitled "Once and for all what I believe about RW and the men that pursue them".

Note the subtle addition of being in the process of a rapid divorce. While I may still be off by a number of degrees, your concept seems to point at the immigrant being at fault more. I somehow do trust that if you encounter evidence to the contrary you will support the DV charges.

3) That is a result of a simple mind. Much like a cat that won't walk on a stove again after being burnt on one.

Even my cat is not that simple minded.

4) You should take similar stories and look for patterns that reoccur over and over again. It helps to see how plausible it is. In the case of the one woman I posted. She is just one of about 6 Americans whose wives and husbands are still married to their other spouses back in the home country. What we as a group at the site have learned is that the USCIS will do nothing if an abuse claim is made by the foreign spouse. They get their green cards anyway.

The patterns are there, and as I said taking a case on its own merit does not mean expectations are for it to be different. Just there is no conclusion drawn before seeing all facts.

5) Keeping an open mind is usually a good idea however always remaining sceptical of people involved in controversy isn't being fair or any too bright. There are good guys and good women both Western and Eastern. Many times out of the kindness of their own hearts they get taken advantage of. And yes the saying "you can't fool an honest man" has some value but it's not always true either. If we get too critical we can condemn all of us.

Actually that reflects my point

6) I didn't follow your points sorry. Telling a guy to be cautious at a time like this is really a good idea. I was talking with a RW immigration attorney and she said that the Azerbaijani woman who was making the allegations in the case we were discussing was probably being advised by her attorney to supplement her case with "evidence" of abuse. Thus causing the guy to be dragged into court over and over again. Stevie could be in the same situation if he lets her get a chance at setting him up. Now some might advise him to persuade his wife into counseling. It is quite a risk having contact with her to do so. 

I fully agree.

[MarkLeftTX]

I don't know... I am always amazed at the guys who have never been here... never made a single post.. you've never heard about them... but they appear out of nowhere and give some hard luck story about how they got ripped off with a Russian Woman. Like they suddenly found the board AFTER they went abroad, got married, went through all of the K-1 process... everything... they managed all of that entirely by themselves, without having to ask for a single piece of advice... then they get divorced, and suddenly they "find" this board...

20 posts... all about his "situation." Nothing before... nothing after.

Something seems odd about that... Doncha think?

::: shrugs :::

[Vaughn]

20 posts... all about his "situation." Nothing before... nothing after.

Something seems odd about that... Doncha think?

Not really...  people search for advice/outlets at various times in their lives. Pre-dating, passport procurement,
visa questions, immigration questions, custody issues, and protection from DV charges, among countless others.

My guess is many hundreds come and go here at RWD.. some resurface, others are never heard from again.