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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #75 on: December 27, 2010, 08:50:54 PM »
In any event, he had a greater challenge than most: his ethnicity. His persona might have been writing down to the masses but he knew the score.

I recall little about Smooth Operator other than what I read about RWG.  That man did have a twisted sense of humor, and by comaprison I should not have accused you of such.

Smooth made fun of other men's physical shortcomings, using real photos.  Why?  I consider that low.  I recall that he also attempted to deceive RW who he felt were deceiving him, as if it were a game.  A reasonable man would have walked away, saving his energy. 

Yet, some of his logic was perfect.  I considered him an enigma.  Did he ever connect with a RW worth of repeat visits?

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #76 on: December 27, 2010, 09:32:51 PM »
Cars or dentists, Ladas vs. BMW's, cheap veneers vs. full bridges. Western Europeans come to Ukraine for low-cost, acceptable quality dental work just like some Americans go to dentists south of the border for theirs.
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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #77 on: December 27, 2010, 10:03:11 PM »
AJ,

Smooth would probably reply that a 'first-rate mutha' is an oxymoron. In any event, he had a greater challenge than most: his ethnicity. His persona might have been writing down to the masses but he knew the score.

That's interesting,, to have second rate mutha's , would indicate to me someone has to be at different rate, or level.
You cant have a second rate steak(or hotdog), without having a standard of comparison?

 What score?
generalities and theories based on little to no experience and more shock jock, than reality?
 I saw mostly tasteless theories ,stemmed from either inexperience, or a very self centered view of life and relationships.
 Good luck to him, but entering relationships from that  mindset , he was going to need it in any culture.

« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 10:04:43 PM by AJ »
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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #78 on: December 27, 2010, 10:45:35 PM »
Certainly there are good, bad, and ugly on both sides of the process.  The OP, however, is a rather young gentleman just beginning to consider the option of possibly looking abroad.  He posed a valid question for one with no experience with either the women or the "process" (for lack of a better word). 

My suggestion for avoiding the ANYONE question to 'anyone' doing this, including the OP (from one who is not married to an RW), is STOP looking for a damn wife. Find a great woman, date, woo, court, have a blast, fight, kiss, bitch, love, bite, experience life.... a kick-ass girlfriend with whom the relationship flat lights your soul on fire.  When you find yourself in that kind of relationship then marry the woman who built it with you. 

That seems reasonable to me.

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #79 on: December 27, 2010, 11:01:12 PM »
I recall little about Smooth Operator other than what I read about RWG.  That man did have a twisted sense of humor, and by comaprison I should not have accused you of such.

Smooth made fun of other men's physical shortcomings, using real photos.  Why?  I consider that low.  I recall that he also attempted to deceive RW who he felt were deceiving him, as if it were a game.  A reasonable man would have walked away, saving his energy.  

Yet, some of his logic was perfect.  I considered him an enigma.  Did he ever connect with a RW worth of repeat visits?

My take on the photo roasts was that he was mocking the agencies for their unsubtle advertising. The men were being used in any case. (No reasonable person would believe that smokinghotkovas would really marry and have children with mutants.)

I lost track of Smooth after I started a ruckus on the sinking ship. Perhaps Winnipeg Don will bring us up to speed because they keep in touch.

« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 11:15:32 PM by TomT »

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #80 on: December 27, 2010, 11:14:15 PM »
That's interesting,, to have second rate mutha's , would indicate to me someone has to be at different rate, or level.
You cant have a second rate steak(or hotdog), without having a standard of comparison?

 What score?
generalities and theories based on little to no experience and more shock jock, than reality?
 I saw mostly tasteless theories ,stemmed from either inexperience, or a very self centered view of life and relationships.
 Good luck to him, but entering relationships from that  mindset , he was going to need it in any culture.

'Second-rate' was a euphemism for 'loser.' There wasn't any need for a gold standard because he felt that we were all compromised.
The score was that he was aware that he was as compromised as anyone else.
His forum persona was far too simplistic to be an accurate representation of the man, with the powerful intellect, behind the curtain.
Truth be told, I stold a few elements of my forum persona from him, a few from Scott Jay and snippets from others when I saw a spark.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 11:30:46 PM by TomT »

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #81 on: December 27, 2010, 11:28:55 PM »
Never said or implied that.  
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Now, now.  Please keep your examples within reason.
Hyperbole is a writer's prerogative.
What percentage of men haven't had a woman in two years.  It has to be low, although perhaps higher than the percentage of RW who would marry ANYONE. Unlike me, you had the opportunity to examine the profiles of men who write HRB women, so quite possibly there is some truth to what you say.
Who knows? Some of them certainly behaved as if they hadn't had a woman in years.

I met a few AM at an agency in Ukraine.  Most men seemed normal albeit inexperienced.
You can't go by that; I seem normal when people meet me in person.
I agree with you that a man needs to look into the mirror before undertaking this venture.  If there is something about him that local women don't like, the answer is not to date RW but to fix what's wrong or lower his goal..  
This is a too familiar motif and simple answers are rarely adequate to deal with the complex issues. I have a pretty good imagination but, oftentimes, I really struggle with a response to these folks that will do any good at all.

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This business about what percentage of FSU women will marry ANYONE is analogous to worrying about housekeeping while the place is burning down.  

Bottom line:  I believe you are taking this too seriously.  This question was raised by a 21-yo.  I suggest that you tackle questions such as:  How did a fool and money ever get together?
I tend to skip steps in my thought process and it's difficult to determine how I got from here to there. (No one's perfect.)
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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #82 on: December 28, 2010, 09:25:20 AM »

Anyone who believes that legal tender does not have more value than the paper that it is printed upon shouldn't have a problem with sending five or ten 'C' notes to a scammer every now and again.


Anyone who does not understand that a piece of paper issued by the Federal Reserve has only the intrinsic value of the paper upon which it is printed and any derived through the confidence of it's users is quite frankly ignorant ;)
« Last Edit: December 28, 2010, 11:26:44 AM by JR »
Always be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of somebody else :)

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #83 on: December 28, 2010, 11:16:29 AM »
Hyperbole is a writer's prerogative......You can't go by that; I seem normal when people meet me in person......No one's perfect.

Good to see that your sharp wit has returned.  You had me concerned for a while.  This is the TomT who amuses me and still makes me think.


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I tend to skip steps in my thought process and it's difficult to determine how I got from here to there.


Or just another example of the burden of explaining to a slower person what is obvious to you?

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #84 on: December 28, 2010, 11:32:40 AM »
'Second-rate' was a euphemism for 'loser.'

Can you think of anybody who isn't either "second-rate" or a "loser"? I can't. There is always somebody richer, taller, more attractive, more intelligent... Yet, no matter how they may excel, they will invariably be burdened by their own flaws. The question is simply whether you have the humility to recognize your own failings.

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #85 on: December 28, 2010, 11:16:21 PM »
Can you think of anybody who isn't either "second-rate" or a "loser"? I can't. There is always somebody richer, taller, more attractive, more intelligent... Yet, no matter how they may excel, they will invariably be burdened by their own flaws. The question is simply whether you have the humility to recognize your own failings.

Don't overthink this. Many of us weren't second-rate until we hit our forties or fifties. The story has been told endlessly on these forums; I hope that I don't have to make it endlessly plus one.

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #86 on: December 28, 2010, 11:20:48 PM »
Don't overthink this. Many of us weren't second-rate until we hit our forties or fifties.

I don't agree. There is always someone richer, smarter, more handsome even when a man is in his thirties  ;) That is life. You can always find someone more first-class if you look and you can always find someone farther down as well.

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #87 on: December 29, 2010, 12:09:07 PM »
Since we aren't getting any closer to being on the same page, perhaps we should just fuggedaboutit.

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Re: What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america
« Reply #88 on: December 30, 2010, 12:41:40 AM »
Well, a very very small percent will use any guy, as the choice is quite wide, so even for this doubtful purpose a girl can choose pretty nice catch ;)

Honey, you're sooo young, you absolutely don't belong here. Here men are looking for wives. They spend a lot of efforts, time and money to bring somebody from abroad to live with them for quite a long time if not forever, because they're in the place in their life when they want to settle down. If you invite somebody from abroad to live with you, to leave everything there and start from the very beginning in a new place, you take a huge responsibility for this person. Do you need this responsibility just because you like how Russian girls look? ;)
On the other hand, there are a lot of Russian girls, who already live in the USA - students, children of immigrants, etc. They're of your age, and they don't require your responsibility for their life, so it's easier and more clever to get acquainted with them :)

How many more men are you going to tell that they are young? (She told this to me about a week ago).

When are you going to realize that age doesn't matter when it comes to experience. Like I said before, its not the years, its the kilometers. Besides, how is someone going to get experience if they don't try?

I think its pretty hypocritical telling anyone seeking knowledge that they don't belong when I believe this site was founded for men to discuss "women."

 

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