Do you need to know Russian Language before you can date a Russian Lady?

[suhasonline20]

Hello members,

This is my first post here. I have been to Czech Republic lately and have loved the culture there and people. I have made friends with a lot of locals and also Russians working in my company. They were so much gaga over Indian stuff and told me a lot about Russian Culture, that it made me want to include Russian Lady as prospective search for my Bride . But over the month I spent there, it seemed that they were very comfortable in speaking their language, Czech and Russian respectively, but when it came to English, they were bit hesitant and I figured it is the same with Indians when they are in the North Circle/South Circle(Language wise); we tend to stick to our bunch.

Hence need  suggestions,  if in case I was trying to date an Russian, would language be any barrier?

if not, how hard is it to learn Cyrillic?

Appreciate your support

Diky

Suhas

 

[SANDRO43]

how hard is it to learn Cyrillic?

Not much (see: http://russianwomendiscussion.com/mwiki/index.php/Cyrillic_Alphabet(s)), since I also assume you're already capable of handling different scripts (ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ).

BTW, to our community.

[Anotherkiwi]

... They were so much gaga over Indian stuff and told me a lot about Russian Culture, that it made me want to include Russian Lady as prospective search for my Bride . But over the month I spent there, it seemed that they were very comfortable in speaking their language, Czech and Russian respectively, but when it came to English, they were bit hesitant and I figured it is the same with Indians when they are in the North Circle/South Circle(Language wise); we tend to stick to our bunch.
...
Suhas

Firstly,    Suhas.  Please don't take this the wrong way, but as an Indian you would certainly be a novelty to people in the Czech Republic, let alone Russia or the rest of the FSU.  That the people you met were "gaga" about Indian things is to me a huge green flag, because if they weren't interested in you they wouldn't worry very much about your culture.  You have obviously created a very favourable impression! 
 
As for being hesitant with English, it's not their first language, so what did you expect?  There are several Indians working in my company, all of whom are fluent in English, but who are much more comfortable talking Hindi when amongst themselves.  In your case, don't let the lack of Russian stop you trying to find that special someone.  It may well be that the one you're looking for already speaks excellent English, in which case problem solved. 
 
As Sandro wrote, learning the Cyrillic alphabet is easy enough, especially if you already write in another script (e.g. Hindi).  What you have to learn to be wary of are the letters in Russian which are not the same as they are in English (e.g. Russian H is English N, Russian C is English S).  Anyway, good luck in your search, whether or not you decide that a FSUW is right for you!

[suhasonline20]

Not much (see: http://russianwomendiscussion.com/mwiki/index.php/Cyrillic_Alphabet(s)), since I also assume you're already capable of handling different scripts (ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ).

BTW, to our community.

Heyy thank you btw, nice one...tht language is Kannada and is the oldest in Indian Subcontinent began bout 2 A.D.  well I can barely read that I have memorized up spellings and written forms of Public transport destinations in Bangalore, as all the public transport have regional language...Not the National Language (Hindi) thts my country


thank you for the link, will go through it

[suhasonline20]

As for being hesitant with English, it's not their first language, so what did you expect?  There are several Indians working in my company, all of whom are fluent in English, but who are much more comfortable talking Hindi when amongst themselves.  In your case, don't let the lack of Russian stop you trying to find that special someone.  It may well be that the one you're looking for already speaks excellent English, in which case problem solved. 
 
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Hi Anotherkiwi,

I do know that there are a lot of apprehensions about Indians, I would endorse all of them cuz Indians are complex, similar culture do not exists in 10 km radius, it changes  every time in India, so much, that you are forced to adapt, to survive.  Well I do want to find someone special from FSU, but how is a question. I made couple of great friends there, but most of them lived with their BF or are in some form of relationship. I do not know how it works with online dating, I can ask them to introduce me to their friends, but m like 3500 Kms away, just being skeptical here.

So just was googlin on wot to do and landed on this Forum, so thought, lemme ask the guys who have been there and done that.

Cheers
Suhas

[suhasonline20]

Hi Anotherkiwi,

I do know that there are a lot of apprehensions about Indians, I would endorse all of them  cuz Indians are complex, similar culture do not exists in 10 km radius, it changes  every time in India, so much, that you are forced to adapt, to survive.  Well I do want to find someone special from FSU, but how is a question. I made couple of great friends there, but most of them lived with their BF or are in some form of relationship. I do not know how it works with online dating, I can ask them to introduce me to their friends, but m like 3500 Kms away, just being skeptical here.

So just was googlin on wot to do and landed on this Forum, so thought, lemme ask the guys who have been there and done that.

Cheers
Suhas

[Misha]

To answer your question: no it is not necessary if you find an English-speaker, but speaking some Russian certainly makes for a bigger pool of potential women and makes life much easier for you 

[mies]

Suhas, welcome to the forum, and thank you for your interest in learning Russian language.
I do not want to sound offensive, and maybe other women on this forum will disagree, but my perception is that Russians/Ukrainians are somewhat reserved in dating and marrying other races, with rare exceptions when they specifically are looking for a certain race as something "exotic" (i.e. Asian, or African people). Although, FSU women, especially those of 30+ are raised on Indian movies, so I think they have high interest in Indian culture and overall are very friendly towards Indian people. The bottom line: speaking Russian language should not be your primary concern. You need to think where do you plan to live (living in Russia can be tough for you or both you and your Russian wife, living in India might be tough for her, living in Europe - may be an ideal solution if you can do it).
On the other hand, once you are through the initial barrier, and let the woman get to know you, your values, and your culture better - then it will not play such a big role. And speaking Russian can be a great ice-breaker to get you two to that point when she is interested in your individuality.

[BC]

I find that with any language, even learning some very basic phrases and using them will show some respect and open doors.

When I was learning German, I would often try to communicate with others in German, some who were reluctant to speaking English and after a short bit we ended up communicating fairly well with a mix of both languages.

As far as being able to communicate at only a very basic level , some have formed relationships and waited for their communication to catch up but that is a path I would not have followed.  My wife had a decent command of English and even then we had enough communication problems.

[mies]

I find that with any language, even learning some very basic phrases and using them will show some respect and open doors.

not necessarily. It depends on a situation. I meet occasionally men who know few words in Russian. When they try to talk to me in Russian I view it as intrusion into my personal space.
For example, the words that especially irritate me when a stranger/foreigner tells them to me in Russian:
- darling
- cutie-pie
- sunshine
- sweetie
- honey-bunny
- my love
- i love you (this one is the worst)
- ....

I think that my negative reaction is caused by the fact that usually these men have very limited russian vocabulary, and all words are love/dating related. They have learned those words for their previous girlfriend, and now they are casually practicing it on russian-speaking women around. They do not bother to find out if I am available for dating, whether I am interested in them, and whether their advances are welcomed. I find it unpleasant.

[I/O]

my perception is that Russians/Ukrainians are somewhat reserved in dating and marrying other races, with rare exceptions

Punter, read this twice. Mrs I/O and her friends, all mid 20's to mid 30's are rather fascinated by foods and goods from the subcontinent and I've often teased them a little about marriage prospects there. Invariably, the reaction is the same, not likley...!!!

not necessarily. It depends on a situation. I meet occasionally men who know few words in Russian. When they try to talk to me in Russian I view it as intrusion into my personal space.
For example, the words that especially irritate me when a stranger/foreigner tells them to me in Russian:
- darling
- cutie-pie
- sunshine
- sweetie
- honey-bunny
- my love
- i love you (this one is the worst)
- ....

I think that my negative reaction is caused by the fact that usually these men have very limited russian vocabulary, and all words are love/dating related. They have learned those words for their previous girlfriend, and now they are casually practicing it on russian-speaking women around. They do not bother to find out if I am available for dating, whether I am interested in them, and whether their advances are welcomed. I find it unpleasant.

Again, read this twice. This lady knows what she is talking about and IS VERY representative (in this particular view) of Russian women I know. Furthermore, I've seen way too many foreigners make complete "dix" of themselves trying to chat up some piece of hot property in Russia. Better to be silent and "look" silly than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

I think it important to have common language with an intended spouse but that doesn't necessarily need to be her language. It is clearly an advantage to have something of her language in the dating field but IMO, not strictly necessary. I was never short of a date in Russia (several trips, several cities), somehow ended up married to a Russian and I still don't "speak" Russian. I do slaughter the language from time to time in a effort to "get by" but I certainly remain silent for the most part unless addressed by a Russian first.

Punter, I work with more than a handful of Indians from a range of locations, languages and dialects. You're right, Indians vary greatly from place to place but one commonality I've noticed is for the most part, the women (the more attractive ones) don't mind subtly flirting (I've had more than the odd one batting her eyelids and adjusting her bra in my office whilst asking for whatever work relating thing it is she really wants) and for the most part, the men are totally clueless with western, in this case Australian, women. I'd suggest if you're not getting too many starts with women abroad you go to work on your social skills before worrying too much about language although there is no downside in learning a little local language for your target market.

All the best but expect a few kicks in the teeth.

[suhasonline20]

I do not want to sound offensive, and maybe other women on this forum will disagree, but my perception is that Russians/Ukrainians are somewhat reserved in dating and marrying other races, with rare exceptions when they specifically are looking for a certain race as something "exotic" (i.e. Asian, or African people)

Hola Mies,
Thank you for your welcome I do know that perceptions are built subconsciously and can be altered, I had a perception that FSU was filled with Mafia, as Goa is filled with Russian Mafia but when I got to see how much family values exist in Czech and from my Russian friend, who made sure she called her dad in Moscow every day to find out how he was...really gave me a sneak peek in to how a life of common citizen is.


Even in India, marrying an Indian from a city 100 Kms away is considered as Glorified Sin Hence I wouldn worry bout upsetting the balance of nature by Marrying a FSU Lady

Secondly, yes, I was thinking of moving to Germany, I do speak Deutsche, Hence thought its an Ideal time to look for a partner.
in your mind or to the readers it might sound like.. y cant this bloke look for a nice Indian lady to marry Well the answer is that I just am totally fascinated by what Russia stood for, its people and also that most famous mathematicians and athletes are from there, hence makes an excellent genetic pool combination

Punter, I work with more than a handful of Indians from a range of locations, languages and dialects. You're right, Indians vary greatly from place to place but one commonality I've noticed is for the most part, the women (the more attractive ones) don't mind subtly flirting (I've had more than the odd one batting her eyelids and adjusting her bra in my office whilst asking for whatever work relating thing it is she really wants) and for the most part, the men are totally clueless with western, in this case Australian, women. I'd suggest if you're not getting too many starts with women abroad you go to work on your social skills before worrying too much about language although there is no downside in learning a little local language for your target market.

All the best but expect a few kicks in the teeth.

I/O Yep thts true, its hard to get in to a mind of a westerner, I actually did ask out the gal I was talking about earlier in forum, she said lets talk about it during her trip to India, It sure has got me confused now, as she is barely online or picks the calls

and about Indian girls, ummmmhmmm lol... I think their minds are like the oscillating pendulum, God and Heisenberg only knows the exact location of their thoughts

[Avis]

No you don't need to know Russian in order to date a Russian, but she definitely needs to speak English 
That was a bit of a joke and seriously, just go for it and embrace the chance to change your life.

I used to listen to English audio lessons, a show called "Bob and Rob show". There were two guys performing, they were both based in Tokio, one of them was Brit and the other was American. So one of the guys met this Japanese girl when neither of them were speaking each others' language a tiny bit even. Their first dates, he said, were just drawings, gesticulation and basically lots of fun getting to know each other without the language
They've been married for years now, and learned each others language at the end, but my point is - love conquers it all
Go for it, it's well worth it!

[mies]

You are right, Suhas. We do have some commonalities with Indian people. I have several wonderful Indian friends so I know for a fact that we are similar with them in some ways.

My observations of non-Caucasian-Russian couples are quite limited. My ex-classmate married an Indian guy whom she met in college in Canada. She married him because he was handsome and very bright, she says he is a genius. Judging by his skyrocketing career he might be one. They live in Northern America and seem quite happy. But she cut contacts with almost everyone back at home, and never comes visit Ukraine since. Not even once.

A family friend, girl of my age from Moscow, married an Afghan national, Russian citizen guy. He was born and raised in Moscow by Afghan couple. His parents are professors in university. He was a surgeon-cardiologist, very friendly nice and pleasant young man, very handsome, elegant, high-class, bright star in his field/very talented, very fast career, colleagues loved him, patients prayed to him.. But his skin had slightly tan shade. He was first threatened multiple times by neighbors and then killed - beaten up to death by a piece of pipe on his way home, by the entrance to his apartment complex. Girl widowed at 25.

Ok, you meet a Russian woman, get her smitten by your manners, and romanticism, and your intellect, change her perception of other races, you get married and live happily in Germany. Then you have children and she wants to visit her parents with your children. It may go OK, or may not go OK. You need to be aware of those things. Your fascination by slavic women beauty is fine, your fascination with their family values is fine. But do you really understand what you are getting into? Do you want to go that route?

[Patagonie]

not necessarily. It depends on a situation. I meet occasionally men who know few words in Russian. When they try to talk to me in Russian I view it as intrusion into my personal space.
For example, the words that especially irritate me when a stranger/foreigner tells them to me in Russian:
- darling
- cutie-pie
- sunshine
- sweetie
- honey-bunny
- my love
- i love you (this one is the worst)
- ....

I think that my negative reaction is caused by the fact that usually these men have very limited russian vocabulary, and all words are love/dating related. They have learned those words for their previous girlfriend, and now they are casually practicing it on russian-speaking women around. They do not bother to find out if I am available for dating, whether I am interested in them, and whether their advances are welcomed. I find it unpleasant.

This is totally very low class men. And stupids of course.