About webcam and internet access

[jeancarlos_fer]

I know this is a very broad subject so I will ask just a couple of specific questions:
I usual consider a huge red flag if a lady give all kind of childish excuses for not having available a webcam for video chat. However I've heard sometimes reasonable arguments for not having it at first and postpone the moment.
Questions:
1. How hard or difficult (let's say out of main cities) really could be for some of these ladies to get access to a computer with internet access and a web cam? Can be that bad?
2. How much time is reasonable to wait before you press your RW prospect for the video chat level? For me is a matter of basic identity verification - don't have to be a real fluid conversation.
3. Some girl complain about having bad experiences with guys only requesting webcam contact just to ask then for cyber sex. How often this happens? It is a recurrent problem? We discuss a lot about the risks for guys with scammers, etc., but I'm also curious about what the ladies find in those websites.

Cheers

[Daveman]

If a lady is really into you, and she's on the up and up with nothing much to hide.. I'd say voice chat (or telephone) within the first few emails.  They may be a little hesitant to go video within the first short period of time, but an excuse of "guys just want video chat to have cybersex" is plain ridiculous.  Even if that were the case, she easily has the option to terminate video whenever she wants.


If she likes you, blah blah blah, she'll be wanting to check you out as much as you want to check her out.  If you are already chatting via skype or something and then ask her to BANG turn on her video right then and there, she may not be ready, really, because she'll probably want to spruce up to look her best before you have that first impression of her.


Those are my thoughts from my personal experience with this..  perhaps some of our ladies will shed some light from theirs (and their womanly perspective of course).

[alex330]

Most women in my experience (limited to southern Ukraine) will have access to the internet in some way even if it is at a friends house.

In regards to the cybersex I would have to say that it is actually a valid concern for some of the women. You would be surprised at what is said to the women sometimes.  But if they are interested and serious they will want to find a way to see what you look like as well.

[acctBill]

jeancarlos if a woman is under 35 and lives in a large city in Russia it shouldn't be difficult for Internet access.  She may not have a computer at home but she will have access to the Internet at work or at a family member's home or Internet cafe.  Having a webcam and being able to do a web chat over something like Skype will be more difficult.  Buying a quality webcam is a cost some women may not be able to afford or think necessary.  Setting up Skype or some other web chat system takes some expertise that she may not have.   

If the woman lives in the Russian countryside or in one of the smaller towns in one of the 'stans (Kazakstan etc) even Internet access may not be easy to arrange.  Russia especially has made great leaps forward in connecting to the Internet.  However some of the other countries in the FSU are far behind when it comes to connecting their less populated areas to the Internet.

As for cyber sex and such just remember there are thousands of men on these forums and on dating sites such as EM or AFA, only a small percentage ever get on a plane and visit the FSU.  Even a smaller percentage ever return for a 2nd visit.  The percentage that marry a FSUW, minuscule.  I don't doubt that some of these men are in the hunt for sex tourism or for the thrill of cyber sex.   

[ECOCKS]

I know this is a very broad subject so I will ask just a couple of specific questions:
I usual consider a huge red flag if a lady give all kind of childish excuses for not having available a webcam for video chat. However I've heard sometimes reasonable arguments for not having it at first and postpone the moment.
Questions:
1. How hard or difficult (let's say out of main cities) really could be for some of these ladies to get access to a computer with internet access and a web cam? Can be that bad?
2. How much time is reasonable to wait before you press your RW prospect for the video chat level? For me is a matter of basic identity verification - don't have to be a real fluid conversation.
3. Some girl complain about having bad experiences with guys only requesting webcam contact just to ask then for cyber sex. How often this happens? It is a recurrent problem? We discuss a lot about the risks for guys with scammers, etc., but I'm also curious about what the ladies find in those websites.

Cheers

1. as others are describing, unless she's in some farming village with two rutted tracks leading to it and horses in the barn to get to market on Saturday she can get to the Internet. Internet cafes are common enough. Most McDonald's have free wi-fi. This is one consideration when you start your search as to English level, size of city and sophistication of the gal. Be smart.

2/3. It's based on your ability to screen her and determine that you wish to take things to the next level in building a relationship. Any gal that trotted out the "Oh but you will want me to sit in my panties in front of the webcam objection" just isn't that into you and if that's what you expect from video chats she'd be right.

[JohnDearGreen]

I know this is a very broad subject so I will ask just a couple of specific questions:
I usual consider a huge red flag if a lady give all kind of childish excuses for not having available a webcam for video chat. However I've heard sometimes reasonable arguments for not having it at first and postpone the moment.
Questions...

I would say less likely concerned with internet access or scams.  In more cases the lady has some reservations about her physical appearance, and wants to postpone you seeing her "real looks" until you are there in person in front of her.   Her assumption is that at that point she may have some chance > zero to keep your attention. 


In other words, you will have been "suckered".  Move on.

[noelscot]

I know this is a very broad subject so I will ask just a couple of specific questions:
I usual consider a huge red flag if a lady give all kind of childish excuses for not having available a webcam for video chat. However I've heard sometimes reasonable arguments for not having it at first and postpone the moment.
Questions:
1. How hard or difficult (let's say out of main cities) really could be for some of these ladies to get access to a computer with internet access and a web cam? Can be that bad?
2. How much time is reasonable to wait before you press your RW prospect for the video chat level? For me is a matter of basic identity verification - don't have to be a real fluid conversation.
3. Some girl complain about having bad experiences with guys only requesting webcam contact just to ask then for cyber sex. How often this happens? It is a recurrent problem? We discuss a lot about the risks for guys with scammers, etc., but I'm also curious about what the ladies find in those websites.

Cheers

My [limited] experience has been that a lady I'm corresponding with prefers video chat. She phrased it rather oddly, but said she likes to see her "opponent's" emotions, that it is more personal etc.  Never did she accuse me of being a pervert who had a hidden agenda. I would have been extremely offended if she had said something insulting like that. She is in one of the 'stans and has no trouble getting access to a video cam and the internet. I think we started video chatting with skype the very first week. My contention is that if a woman is serious she will find a way. A monkey could install skype on a pc and the net is about as ubiquitous as bacteria. So no, you are not being unreasonable to expect some effort on their part.

[BC]

If we were talking 10 or so years ago, yeah computers and inet were sparse.. my wife never touched a computer before she met me and was quite hesitant even after we married.

Now she skypes, chats etc with many if not most of her friends back home.

I guess it might still be so 'back in the sticks'... but if a lady is from a fairly large town connectivity should be relatively easy either via internet cafe or most likely friends that are online.

[brownie]

When I started talking to my fiancee almost 3 years ago, she did not have a camera with her computer and she had major problems with her internet provider. Her computer was a BIG late model Pentium II.  We had talked on the phone a few times before she got a camera.  I insisted she get one and she agreed but would tell me she would have to go to Moscow to get one because there were no cameras to be bought in her town that she could afford.  She does not have a high paying job and money did not allow for extras like that.  Money was a problem in this case.  Anyway, about 2 months into our relationship, she found a toy one made like a cat that between her internet and old slow computer that worked but the quality was very bad.  After she became comfortable with the idea of a webcam, and I got tired of squinting to see her, without telling her, I bought her a better one that would work with such an old computer. 

[ML]

I will go against the trend and state that there are a very large number of FSU women who do not have convenient internet connection.  A large number who do have internet in their home, do not have fast reliable connection that is necessary for video contact.   Even where good connection is available, they do not have updated computers.

Sure there are many of this group who could go somewhere else, but in considering the convenience factor and the privacy factor, it is a real problem for many.

This applies to large cities as well as small.

[larisad]

In the city many have internet.  In villages maybe only at work do that have a computer.  Many of my clients now that I speak with do not have a camera but only a laptop at home.  We can use skype but no video.

Several years ago, I did not have fast internet at home until I needed this and I was in a big city.

The woman knows why you want video chat quickly and this is good reason.  Everyone should want to see who they speak with, unless you have something to hide.

If she is not in a village, I suggest you ask if she can go to friend and use computer for one quick chat.  She should have no problem with this.  If she does have a problem, well maybe her situation is more complex than we know.